The look on Leigh Steinberg makes it so much sweeter.
And Big Ben being the bully to Eli on the bus acting like a jerk.
And Robert Gallery in the back being a jerk as well. Who knew that guy was a complete mess and not worth a top 5 pick
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Eli is very nervous. It seems obvious to me Archie (and maybe Peyton and Cooper) were being his "decision".
The Mannings acted like such spoiled jerk offs...
And Archie proven right as SD organziation has not delivered eventhough Rivers has done his part
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busting Eli’s balls because Archie didn’t want him to go to San Diego.
Where most people come away with the take Ben is an asshole, you like the fact he's ripping on Eli.
Just one more glimpse into the poster who brings the gem Jints Central to a cartoonish exclamation.
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I love Roethlisberger and Hall...
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busting Eli’s balls because Archie didn’t want him to go to San Diego.
Where most people come away with the take Ben is an asshole, you like the fact he's ripping on Eli.
Just one more glimpse into the poster who brings the gem Jints Central to a cartoonish exclamation.
bingo.
I don't believe there's a single Giants fan who wouldn't think a player was a complete asshole if he and his famous father pulled that on the Giants.
He proved to be right, but he deserved every bit of grief he got for it.
SD needed a qb, or so it thought....they had already seen Drew Brees play for them for three seasons, and did not feel that he was their future(how wrong were they about that?).....If they kept Brees and used that pick to trade with the Giants or Oakland, there were some stellar players out there, and who knows what might have happened...But SD picks Eli.....Did Eli not want to go to SD because Drew Brees was there? Look what happened to Rivers, he sat on the bench for two seasons while Brees played, and Archie, maybe a better talent evaluator than anyone in the SD front office, saw the same thing happening to Eli...Eli AND Archie wanted Eli to go to a team where he could start right away....
As for Oakland, they needed a qb bad, but there was no way SD was going to make a trade with a division rival...
Arizona needed a qb badly....can you imagine Larry Fitzgerald on the SD Chargers with drew Brees, Ladainian, Sproles, Gates, Vincent Jackson, etc., plus the extra picks?
I thought the Giants had no shot at Manning....yes, Eli said he didn't want to play for SD, but does anyone seriously think he would have sat out the season and not sign with SD?
For Ernie to pick Rivers over Roethlisberger, in hopes that SD would make a deal with the Giants was a huge gamble on Ernie's part(Ernie wanted Big Ben over Rivers)....
We will never know what might have happened if the Giants got Rivers/Roethlisberger and kept those picks....everyone can speculate all they want, but we will never know...
Ernie took a huge gamble to get the guy he wanted, and it resulted in 2 SB victories.....
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bw in dc : 7:15 am : link : reply
busting Eli’s balls because Archie didn’t want him to go to San Diego.
Where most people come away with the take Ben is an asshole, you like the fact he's ripping on Eli.
Just one more glimpse into the poster who brings the gem Jints Central to a cartoonish exclamation.
The good news is, if the Giants do well this year, he'll disappear again.
So there's that to root for.
Where most people come away with the take Ben is an asshole, you like the fact he's ripping on Eli.
Just one more glimpse into the poster who brings the gem Jints Central to a cartoonish exclamation.
It was a lighthearted, funny moment. In fact, it was very funny, largely driven by how totally uncomfortable Eli was with Project Archie. Even Eli couldn't help but laugh.
Eli is the guy you want your son to be like.
I love the guy but cmon, what he did at the draft was the definition of being a jerk!
Eli is the guy you want your son to be like.
You know them personally?
Right, because nobody in the public eye has ever done stuff behind closed doors that ever came to light.
I love Eli. My favorite player. My dog is named after the guy. He probably defrauded countless people in the memorabilia industry.
In the video mentioned above Eli was given shit because he acted like a spoiled brat.
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Both have been in the public eye long enough. That speaks for itself.
Right, because nobody in the public eye has ever done stuff behind closed doors that ever came to light.
I love Eli. My favorite player. My dog is named after the guy. He probably defrauded countless people in the memorabilia industry.
In the video mentioned above Eli was given shit because he acted like a spoiled brat.
That’s not really on the same level as being accused of rape and being suspended by the league.
The Mannings acted like such spoiled jerk offs...
They made the right move. Archie was not going to let his kids go through what he went through in New Orleans. Basically being a very talented piece of roadkill for a decade and never setting foot in the playoffs. Any good father would do the same.
The Chargers straightened things out but at that point they hadn't had a winning season in like 9 years. How could any of the Mannings believe in that franchise?
I love the guy but cmon, what he did at the draft was the definition of being a jerk!
He's not a jerk. It's business. It's not like he didn't work his ass off to get to become such a high pick. He wanted to make sure he ended up in the best possible place and he accomplished just that.
I suspect a lot of the people that rip the Mannings over this never saw Archie get the crap beat out of him his whole career on a poorly run franchise
It is any incoming draft pick's right to play, or not to play for the team that picks him. If that person says he's willing to sit out a year and re-enter, as Eli said he would, how is it different than any other business decision made in football or any other walk of life?
Eli made a business decision and had every right to do so. Its his career - why shouldnt he have a choice just like the rest of us?
But no, theres immature men-children Ben & Gallery not getting a grownup decision.
As a Giants fan, we should be grateful - I highly doubt Rivers accomplishes anything beyond some playoff runs here, if the situations were reversed.
As a person - Eli's 21 at that point. If I were in his shoes, I'd be uncomfortable as hell but listen to every last word my father had to say. If they had someone on the inside (Schottenheimer) telling them SD was a disaster and it would wreck Eli's career, why on Earth wouldn't they use every angle available to them to try to keep him out of there?
I think people forget these guys work hard to make it to that point. He did nothing illegal or against the rules - he basically threatened to sit out and wait for the next year's draft, which is completely by the book. At that point - if a player is willing to go to those lengths, would you even want him on your team?
Like jcn said above, I can see Chargers fans being hacked off.
Do Broncos fans have an irrational dislike for John Elway? No.
Do Colts fans dislike him? Yep.
On top of the QB stuff, AJ Smith was not known to have a great reputation and if you look beyond the stuff with Eli, look at at Schottenheimer. Coaches typically don't get fired in the NFL after going 14-2.
And it turned out to be foreshadowing as he was then canned after a highly successful season.
Looking back, everything that was said about SD came true, and Eli then helped deliver 2 SB's here.
That should be looked at as an awesome event for this franchise.
Steinberg is probably regretful of some of his facial expressions and comments.
Crazy to think those 3 draft selections resulted in 4 QBs being future Hall of Fame inductees (Brees)
In the video mentioned above Eli was given shit because he acted like a spoiled brat.”
You love Eli? Interesting way to show your love lol.
Eli was given shit because some people resent seeing an athlete or anyone for that matter, go against the establishment. I begrudge no athlete or individual who stands up for themselves and tries to control their destiny. Which is exactly what Eli did. If another player does what Kelly, Elway and Eli did, more power to them.
Spoiled brat? Ha! Ironically, over the years, and in that video, Big Ben showcased himself as the spoiled brat. Give me a break.
The Mannings acted like such spoiled jerk offs...
Oh please. If you have the clout or draft day stature you can do whatever the hell you want to do. Teams don’t HAVE to draft you. If you’re a fringe talent and try to flex some draft day muscle you’re likely going to sink. If you’re an Eli Manning and don’t want to play somewhere in particular you can exercise whatever methods needed to avoid that destination. If it blows up in your face oh well that’s the risk you take.
Eli did what he felt was right. How does that entail acting like a soiled brat?
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to me that anyone can relive that draft and come away calling anyone a jerk but Eli.
I love the guy but cmon, what he did at the draft was the definition of being a jerk!
He's not a jerk. It's business. It's not like he didn't work his ass off to get to become such a high pick. He wanted to make sure he ended up in the best possible place and he accomplished just that.
Thank you! This is spot on!
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Both have been in the public eye long enough. That speaks for itself.
Right, because nobody in the public eye has ever done stuff behind closed doors that ever came to light.
I love Eli. My favorite player. My dog is named after the guy. He probably defrauded countless people in the memorabilia industry.
In the video mentioned above Eli was given shit because he acted like a spoiled brat.
Are you really that fucking stupid that you don't remember that Ben was suspended for sexual assault and settled a rape lawsuit?
No one ever attributes it to Eli trying to avoid playing in the same conference as his brother and at the same time avoiding the same fate of his father. The chargers are a notoriously weird franchise and that’s being kind.
You want to fuck with the Nfl draft process? You most certainly can as long as your good enough and prepared for any backlash or pitfalls. It’s 100% legal and within the margins.
2. This decision and what Eli did, effected Ben and cost him a lot of money. He has every right to get annoyed at it.
3. Why is Eli a jerk? He clearly made the right decision.
4. Shouldn't us Giants fans be ecstatic that Eli did this? We got Eli and subsequently two SB trophies!
He works with the March of Dimes, Guiding Eyes for the Blind, American Red Cross, the Scholastic's ClassroomCare program, and Eli and his wife founded the Eli and Abby Manning Children's Clinics in Jackson, Miss. Manning especially is active with charities that focus on children
Manning especially is active with charities that focus on children. One of his most significant endeavors is his involvement with Tackle Kids’ Cancer, an initiative with Hackensack University Medical Center. Not only does Manning raise money and awareness for the program, he spends significant time with patients and doctors at the hospital’s pediatric cancer center.
https://nypost.com/2017/02/04/eli-manning-shares-the-nfl-man-of-the-year-award/
Not sure how the term spoiled brat or jerk can ever be used in the same sentence as Eli Manning
-Not rapey
What the hell is wrong with some of you? Wake the fuck up. It’s all about the giants and winning. That’s it!
It was a lighthearted, funny moment. In fact, it was very funny, largely driven by how totally uncomfortable Eli was with Project Archie. Even Eli couldn't help but laugh.
Either you don't realize how moronic it makes you sound or you don't fucking care
If Barkley said through back channels -- the Giants have had 3 coaches in 4 years, were dreadful last year, have had several embarrassing public situations with how they've dealt with prominent players and coaches (how Coughlin was let go, how Manning was benched, how Macadoo and Reese were fired midseason) -- and that he didn't want to play for the current New York Giants that would be logical. And bratty and NYG fans would abhore him.
Acknowledging Manning did something that was both pragmatic and shitty isn't so hard or unloyal.
It worked out well for him - he won rings, he cemented his place in football history and made tons of money. It worked out for the Giants for largely the same reasons.
That doesn't mean that he would have done anything unfair or outside of his power.
I also wouldn't expect fans of whatever team Barkley wound up with to hold the same grudge against him as apparently some idiotic Giants fans hold towards Eli 2 Super Bowl championships later.
To a functional reasonable adult, there should be nothing “shitty” about what Eli did. He exercized his rights & was willing to deal with the consequences, including sitting out a year and reentering the draft. Why you think that’s “shitty” is your problem. He made a career decision and had every right to do so, just like you and I.
And yet, Britt takes shit and gets called names for being an Eli defender. Un-fucking-believable.....
Semantics