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NFT: Mets Minors 8/9/2018- Vientos keeps hitting

DanMetroMan : 8/9/2018 7:48 am
AAA Crismatt
AA Jannis
A+ Llanes
Col TBD
BK James
Kingsport Acosta
GCL TBD
DSL1
DSL2

AA
Gimenez 1-3, BB
Michael 0-3, 2 K
Toffey 1-4, K
Nido 0-2, BB
Harol Gonzalez 5 innings 7 hits 3 runs 1 walk 3 k's
Nogosek 1 inning 2 hits 1 run 2 walks 2 k's

A+
Carpio 0-3, BB (Hot streak has turned into a cold streak. .167 over his last 10)
Paez 0-4, K
Vasquez 0-4, 2 k's
Tiberi 0-4 (Beyond awful wow. .147 last 10... is HIGHER than the .140 he is hitting overall in A+ over 17 games)
Brodey 0-3, BB, K
Kay 6 innings 5 hits 4 runs 1 walk 7 k's (Walks have been an issue at this level for Kay so this was actually a positive start 4 runs aside, also notable, yet to allow a HR over 7 starts)
Cobb 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 0 k's

A (this is a really, really bad roster at this point)
Winaker 1-4

BK
JMM 3-5, 2b
Rasquin 1-2, 2 BB
Senger 3-5, 3b
Smith 1.1 innings 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 2 k's

Kingsport
Granadillo 2-5, 2 k's, SB (Promote already jeez)
Kelenic 2-5, 2b, 3b
Newton 1-4, 3b, K (Jeff is was in attendance and is smitten)
Santana 2-4, K
Vientos 3-4, K (.429, 3 homers, 6 walks over his last 10)
Taveras 8 innings 6 hits 2 runs 0 walks 6 k's (Jeff P likes him in the Harol Gonzalez, pitch backwards style)


GCL
Lindsay 1-4, 2 k's
Mauricio 1-4, K
Consugera 0-4
Espino 0-3, K

DSL
Hernandez 0-4, 2 k's
SWR 2.1 innings 4 hits 0 runs 2 walks 4 k's
SWR 2.1 innings 4 hits 0 runs 2 walks 4 k's  
DanMetroMan : 8/9/2018 7:53 am : link
is obviously in the GCL, typo
Any reason why  
gmen9892 : 8/9/2018 9:11 am : link
They wouldnt promote Vientos by the end of the year, or is it too late for that sort of thing for him? Or too early for that matter.
RE: Any reason why  
Mike in NY : 8/9/2018 9:17 am : link
In comment 14033149 gmen9892 said:
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They wouldnt promote Vientos by the end of the year, or is it too late for that sort of thing for him? Or too early for that matter.


I would promote Chambers and/or Sharp to Columbia to make AB's for Vientos in Brooklyn, but the Mets have signed a lot of 3B/SS types that making room for everyone isn't easy
RE: RE: Any reason why  
gmen9892 : 8/9/2018 9:21 am : link
In comment 14033154 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 14033149 gmen9892 said:


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They wouldnt promote Vientos by the end of the year, or is it too late for that sort of thing for him? Or too early for that matter.



I would promote Chambers and/or Sharp to Columbia to make AB's for Vientos in Brooklyn, but the Mets have signed a lot of 3B/SS types that making room for everyone isn't easy


Wont pretend to know much about who is in Brooklyn, but is there anyone of note there that is blocking him?
Brooklyn  
DanMetroMan : 8/9/2018 9:23 am : link
lineup is mostly total garbage. Cortes the only infielder who is of any real interest. Sharp's K rate is absurd
Vientos  
DanMetroMan : 8/9/2018 9:25 am : link
100% will skip BK next season either way.
Nice to see Kelenic  
allstarjim : 8/9/2018 9:44 am : link
with a good game.
Granadillo  
DanMetroMan : 8/9/2018 9:46 am : link
Winaker, Dibrell, Villines, Santana all standout as guys who should be promoted.
I love the power that Vientos has shown at age 18.  
Ira : 8/9/2018 10:33 am : link
Someone wrote that he's 6'4 and he has a good arm. Sounds like 3b could be his natural position.
RE: I love the power that Vientos has shown at age 18.  
DanMetroMan : 8/9/2018 10:38 am : link
In comment 14033232 Ira said:
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Someone wrote that he's 6'4 and he has a good arm. Sounds like 3b could be his natural position.


Law said he's had good reports on him at 3b. He will never be a GGer (most likely) but even average would be huge.
Mauricio  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2018 10:45 am : link
is a big kid too (6' 3" + at 17), I wonder if he moves off SS before being forced to by someone like Gimenez or hopefully Rosario.

Between Gimenez, Vientos, and Mauricio the Mets have some infield versatility within a couple years or so of each other age wise.

Vientos has 9 errors in 36 games (a little worse than last year at SS)  
Eric on Li : 8/9/2018 10:45 am : link
but errors are fairly common in the low minors. I've been going on the assumption that if they were willing to try him at SS last year it bodes well that athletically he should be able to handle 3B.

More exciting to me than his power is his K/BB rates for a young guy. 15% K rate is great. 11% walk rate is even better. He and Gimenez are the 2 most exciting prospects in the org IMO. Alonso a close 3rd.
I just took a look at Kelenic's splits.  
Ira : 8/9/2018 11:52 am : link
He's batting .333 with a 1.034 OPS against left handed pitching since going to Kingsport. Against righties he's hitting .140 with a .566 OPS. So he probably needs a lot of work against breaking balls from right handed pitchers.
RE: Vientos has 9 errors in 36 games (a little worse than last year at SS)  
DanMetroMan : 8/9/2018 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14033256 Eric on Li said:
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but errors are fairly common in the low minors. I've been going on the assumption that if they were willing to try him at SS last year it bodes well that athletically he should be able to handle 3B.

More exciting to me than his power is his K/BB rates for a young guy. 15% K rate is great. 11% walk rate is even better. He and Gimenez are the 2 most exciting prospects in the org IMO. Alonso a close 3rd.


Not that I disagree but it's extremely rare to switch a player off his natural position during his draft year and even more so for a HS player. I don't think they were "trying" him at SS, rather not wanting to overwhelm him.
RE: RE: Vientos has 9 errors in 36 games (a little worse than last year at SS)  
Eric on Li : 8/9/2018 12:43 pm : link
In comment 14033378 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14033256 Eric on Li said:


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but errors are fairly common in the low minors. I've been going on the assumption that if they were willing to try him at SS last year it bodes well that athletically he should be able to handle 3B.

More exciting to me than his power is his K/BB rates for a young guy. 15% K rate is great. 11% walk rate is even better. He and Gimenez are the 2 most exciting prospects in the org IMO. Alonso a close 3rd.



Not that I disagree but it's extremely rare to switch a player off his natural position during his draft year and even more so for a HS player. I don't think they were "trying" him at SS, rather not wanting to overwhelm him.


Yeah I don't think anyone thought he'd stick at SS - just noting that he wasn't one of the guys who profiled defensively at an easy position from day 1 (like Dom Smith for example).
Consuegra  
DanMetroMan : 8/9/2018 12:44 pm : link
2 run homer, possibly one to watch over the next few seasons, terrible numbers aside.
RE: Mauricio  
Earl the goat : 8/9/2018 1:12 pm : link
In comment 14033255 pjcas18 said:
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is a big kid too (6' 3" + at 17), I wonder if he moves off SS before being forced to by someone like Gimenez or hopefully Rosario.

Between Gimenez, Vientos, and Mauricio the Mets have some infield versatility within a couple years or so of each other age wise.



Add Sherwyn to that list
RE: RE: Mauricio  
pjcas18 : 8/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14033436 Earl the goat said:
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In comment 14033255 pjcas18 said:


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is a big kid too (6' 3" + at 17), I wonder if he moves off SS before being forced to by someone like Gimenez or hopefully Rosario.

Between Gimenez, Vientos, and Mauricio the Mets have some infield versatility within a couple years or so of each other age wise.





Add Sherwyn to that list


Absolutely and another big dude at 6'4, though he is already 19, so maybe done growing.

he just doesn't have the pedigree of Gimenez, Mauricio, or Vientos, does he?

Jeff P doesn't think Mauricio or Newton are SS's long term.



Mauricio  
DanMetroMan : 8/9/2018 1:34 pm : link
and Newton both profile as 3B going forward though CO isn't impossible either.
RE: RE: RE: Mauricio  
Earl the goat : 8/9/2018 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14033440 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14033436 Earl the goat said:


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In comment 14033255 pjcas18 said:

Your right about the pedigree but he’s the best athlete out of that bunch


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is a big kid too (6' 3" + at 17), I wonder if he moves off SS before being forced to by someone like Gimenez or hopefully Rosario.

Between Gimenez, Vientos, and Mauricio the Mets have some infield versatility within a couple years or so of each other age wise.





Add Sherwyn to that list



Absolutely and another big dude at 6'4, though he is already 19, so maybe done growing.

he just doesn't have the pedigree of Gimenez, Mauricio, or Vientos, does he?

Jeff P doesn't think Mauricio or Newton are SS's long term.


Some good news on the farm tonight  
Eric on Li : 8/9/2018 11:33 pm : link
Vegas in the 5th inning up 7-1:
Alonso 2/3 with a HR and 2B (CALL HIM UP)
Dom 2/3 with a 2B

Bing won 3-1
Gimenez 2/5 2B, SB (hitting .305 at AA)
Toffey 2/4 2 2B, BB (AA OPS now over 1.000)
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