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NFT: PGA Championship Thread-Thursday Round

ryanmkeane : 8/9/2018 8:31 am
Tiger, Rory, and JT going off at 9:23. Extremely hot/muggy in St. Louis and everyone saying the course/greens will play slow. Should be a great couple opening rounds with some of these groups.
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Koepka's last 3 birdie putts haven't really been that close  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 5:58 pm : link
with his driver in play Tiger is playing the best golf right now.
RE: RE: Wow, crazy good shot.  
PhiPsi125 : 8/12/2018 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14037376 Eric on Li said:
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Man, if only he didn’t flub the last two holes yesterday. Tiger can still hang’em.



he also missed the first 8 or 9 fairways. Now that his driver is going he has every chance to win this these last few holes.


It’s really the difference between vintage Tiger and current Tiger. Vintage Tiger doesn’t make these mistakes. Whereas current Tiger is one of the really good, top golfers that can win any given Sunday in this era of golf. At least, that’s where he’s headed back to.
Too many commercials  
dep026 : 8/12/2018 6:01 pm : link
....
Very good 3  
section125 : 8/12/2018 6:07 pm : link
on 16. Stress free tap in..smart play.
Scott and koepka  
dep026 : 8/12/2018 6:08 pm : link
Both with makeable birdies. Tiger needs a birdie on 17.
RE: Very good 3  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 6:08 pm : link
In comment 14037385 section125 said:
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on 16. Stress free tap in..smart play.


Yea, smart play. this tee shot will show whether he's truly back or not.
Rut roh  
dep026 : 8/12/2018 6:09 pm : link
Bad drive.

Did it splash?
Yikes that might be it for Tiger  
BigBlue4You09 : 8/12/2018 6:09 pm : link
Can’t do that
RE: RE: Very good 3  
section125 : 8/12/2018 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14037387 Eric on Li said:
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on 16. Stress free tap in..smart play.



Yea, smart play. this tee shot will show whether he's truly back or not.


Bad...the bunkers were the mistake of choice.
damn he had so much good mojo into that shot  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 6:10 pm : link
that's the mistake he never used to make. The putts on the lip happen to everyone, that was a tee shot he really needed.
Ouch  
dep026 : 8/12/2018 6:11 pm : link
Ugly lie for tiger.

Brooks make a birdie. Time running out.
Oh Boy,  
section125 : 8/12/2018 6:12 pm : link
It stayed up. Has a chance..as Koepka gets to 15 under.
Koepka looked more comfortable on that downhill putt  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 6:13 pm : link
than he did on the uphill ones.

Looks like Tiger got a break in that it's playable.
Wow  
dep026 : 8/12/2018 6:14 pm : link
He has a chance, albeit a small one.

Lucky that didn’t dunk.
Even at his peak  
BlackLight : 8/12/2018 6:15 pm : link
the weak spot in Tiger's game was a scattershot driver.
Koepka really turning it on  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 6:15 pm : link
another 10 ft putt for birdie.
Brooks with a putt to end tigers chance  
dep026 : 8/12/2018 6:15 pm : link
Great shot by. Brooks
Koepka about to put this away  
BigBlue4You09 : 8/12/2018 6:16 pm : link
Was hoping for a little more drama
Have to take advantage  
section125 : 8/12/2018 6:16 pm : link
of these breaks. Don't get greedy.

Koepka is cool customer. You don't win two US Opens playing scared.
Bunker  
dep026 : 8/12/2018 6:17 pm : link
Too bad. He made it fun.
RE: Bunker  
section125 : 8/12/2018 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14037403 dep026 said:
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Too bad. He made it fun.


Yeah, he needed a birdie to get into the Club house at 14 under.
Damn shame  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/12/2018 6:20 pm : link
El Tigre isn't winning this. I'll cry myself to sleep.
Koepka - game -  
section125 : 8/12/2018 6:21 pm : link
set - ........
Good run.  
section125 : 8/12/2018 6:23 pm : link
He played better on Sunday and on the back than he has the last few weeks.
RE: damn he had so much good mojo into that shot  
Eman11 : 8/12/2018 6:23 pm : link
In comment 14037391 Eric on Li said:
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that's the mistake he never used to make. The putts on the lip happen to everyone, that was a tee shot he really needed.


Yeah so true.

I gotta say though, Tiger in contention til the 71st hole of a Major wasn't something I expected to see this year.

I'd love to see him birdie 18 and finish on a high note.

Tip of the cap to Koepka. He's played fantastic and didn't crumble.
Made it.  
section125 : 8/12/2018 6:27 pm : link
Not bad. Get a birdie on 18 and put a little pressure on Scott and Koepka.
RE: RE: damn he had so much good mojo into that shot  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 6:28 pm : link
In comment 14037408 Eman11 said:
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that's the mistake he never used to make. The putts on the lip happen to everyone, that was a tee shot he really needed.



Yeah so true.

I gotta say though, Tiger in contention til the 71st hole of a Major wasn't something I expected to see this year.

I'd love to see him birdie 18 and finish on a high note.

Tip of the cap to Koepka. He's played fantastic and didn't crumble.


yup. Honestly even if he eagled 17, Koepka would probably still be in position to win. Tiger didnt lose as much as Koepka won this tournament (barring a blow up).
If agree Eric  
Eman11 : 8/12/2018 6:34 pm : link
I'm sure Tiger will be thinking about those putts on 1, 11, and 14 but it's not like Koepka or Scott were dropping shots and Tiger didn't play well.

He did, but Koepka just played better and didn't just hold on IMO, he went out and won this. (Barring a huge collapse of course)
RE: Damn shame  
PhiPsi125 : 8/12/2018 6:35 pm : link
In comment 14037405 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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El Tigre isn't winning this. I'll cry myself to sleep.


Lol, and now all the Tiger haters can come out of their hiding place. You know they have been sweating it all day!
RE: Damn shame  
BigBlue4You09 : 8/12/2018 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14037405 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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El Tigre isn't winning this. I'll cry myself to sleep.


I’m sure Tiger and his $740 million will be too
RE: RE: Damn shame  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/12/2018 6:38 pm : link
In comment 14037414 PhiPsi125 said:
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El Tigre isn't winning this. I'll cry myself to sleep.



Lol, and now all the Tiger haters can come out of their hiding place. You know they have been sweating it all day!


Hahaha. Touche. I was worried no doubt. I just can't stand him. Never have liked him & always root against him.
RE: If agree Eric  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14037413 Eman11 said:
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I'm sure Tiger will be thinking about those putts on 1, 11, and 14 but it's not like Koepka or Scott were dropping shots and Tiger didn't play well.

He did, but Koepka just played better and didn't just hold on IMO, he went out and won this. (Barring a huge collapse of course)


Yeah I think more likely he's thinking about all the fairways he missed and especially the tee shot on 17. Not getting a putt at eagle (or birdie) on 17 was the killer. The next major he wins will be the one he finally dominates the par 5's.
Ha - so he birdies 18  
section125 : 8/12/2018 6:40 pm : link
for a 64 and 14 under....
and Koepka gets another short birdie putt  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 6:42 pm : link
he's been a machine.
Awesome shot of huge crowd roaring as he walked over the bridge.  
GiantGolfer : 8/12/2018 6:43 pm : link
Tiger being back takes the golf world to a whole new level. I love it!!!
RE: RE: If agree Eric  
Eman11 : 8/12/2018 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14037417 Eric on Li said:
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I'm sure Tiger will be thinking about those putts on 1, 11, and 14 but it's not like Koepka or Scott were dropping shots and Tiger didn't play well.

He did, but Koepka just played better and didn't just hold on IMO, he went out and won this. (Barring a huge collapse of course)



Yeah I think more likely he's thinking about all the fairways he missed and especially the tee shot on 17. Not getting a putt at eagle (or birdie) on 17 was the killer. The next major he wins will be the one he finally dominates the par 5's.


No doubt he needs to clean that up but even with those missed fairways he scrambles and put himself in position to make those putts but just had some tough luck on them.

If being the key word there but they were all so damn close to going in.

I agree though, the tee shot on 17 was the killer, and he couldn't overcome that one.
That stat re Koepka having 40 (now 41 I think) birdie attempts < 18ft  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 6:59 pm : link
is nuts. That really simplifies things.
Congrats to Koepka  
UConn4523 : 8/12/2018 7:03 pm : link
he’s the best player in the game now if he wasn’t already. Congrats to Tiger too, Golf is simply too damn exciting when he’s in the mix - it’s good to see him healthy and competing. He solidified his Ryder Cup spot most likely, and that event should be awesome this year.

Simply cannot root for Adam Scott or anyone else that still uses the extended putter. It’s awful.
Tiger is just about there  
dpinzow : 8/12/2018 7:06 pm : link
A couple of putts made or a couple of Koepka shots missed and he wins a major. Next year he’ll be playing on 3 courses where he has won majors in the past

Augusta
Pebble (US Open)
Bethpage (PGA)
Yeaaa FSU...  
section125 : 8/12/2018 7:10 pm : link
Good job. Did not figure he would fold..

Well Done.

Tiger finish 2nd as Adam Scott missed his par putt.
Next year the major tournament order is different  
dpinzow : 8/12/2018 7:11 pm : link
The PGA at Bethpage is going to be the second major, from May 16-19

Augusta remains first, our Open remains in June at Pebble and the British will be played in Northern Ireland at Portrush in July
I also thought this course was too easy  
dpinzow : 8/12/2018 7:17 pm : link
Next year’s PGA shouldn’t be because Bethpage is normally an extremely difficult test, even when not tricked up to be a US Open course
Brooks girlfriend sure loves the spotlight  
BigBlue4You09 : 8/12/2018 7:17 pm : link
Slapping his ass on live TV and then giving Tiger quite the friendly hug lol.
Those last two holes  
pjcas18 : 8/12/2018 7:23 pm : link
where he lost focus cost Adam Scott over $400,000. Sure, Tiger had a lot to do with it, he was amazing, he missed most of the fairways and still somehow shoots a 64. And in the post-round interview you'd think he shot a 74 from listening to him.

I wonder if these guys think of it that way.

As they're finishing their round, even if they're not going to win, the difference between say 5th place and 6th place is 70k. That's an expensive missed putt for Justin Thomas (for example).

RE: Tiger is just about there  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/12/2018 7:30 pm : link
In comment 14037434 dpinzow said:
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A couple of putts made or a couple of Koepka shots missed and he wins a major. Next year he’ll be playing on 3 courses where he has won majors in the past

Augusta
Pebble (US Open)
Bethpage (PGA)

True, but by the time he tees up at Augusta next year he will be older than all but 10 of the 400+ major champions in history. The last champion older than Tiger was Hale Irwin - when Tiger was 14 years old.

I wouldn’t put it past him, but this was likely his best shot.
Since Phil's 42nd bday (2012) he's won 1 major with 4 2nd places  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 8:50 pm : link
Tiger is 42 right now, assuming he stays healthy I find it hard to believe he won't continue to be competitive over the next few years. 2 top 6 finishes in majors this year was as good or better than the majority of the top 10 ranked players. Health is the only question in terms of him competing for more majors.
RE: Those last two holes  
Eric on Li : 8/12/2018 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14037447 pjcas18 said:
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where he lost focus cost Adam Scott over $400,000. Sure, Tiger had a lot to do with it, he was amazing, he missed most of the fairways and still somehow shoots a 64. And in the post-round interview you'd think he shot a 74 from listening to him.



That really says so much about him as a competitor. It's crazy that he posted that score even with 3 or 4 breaks going against him. The PGA champ scoring record is 63 and he was a couple inches a 1 tee shot away from beating it by multiple strokes.
RE: RE: Tiger is just about there  
GiantGolfer : 8/12/2018 9:24 pm : link
In comment 14037453 Jim in Fairfax said:
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A couple of putts made or a couple of Koepka shots missed and he wins a major. Next year he’ll be playing on 3 courses where he has won majors in the past

Augusta
Pebble (US Open)
Bethpage (PGA)


True, but by the time he tees up at Augusta next year he will be older than all but 10 of the 400+ major champions in history. The last champion older than Tiger was Hale Irwin - when Tiger was 14 years old.

I wouldn’t put it past him, but this was likely his best shot.


Hardly. He’ll be the odds on favorite to win the Masters next year if he continues playing this well through the playoffs and the early part of next season.
RE: Since Phil's 42nd bday (2012) he's won 1 major with 4 2nd places  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/12/2018 9:28 pm : link
In comment 14037488 Eric on Li said:
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Tiger is 42 right now, assuming he stays healthy I find it hard to believe he won't continue to be competitive over the next few years. 2 top 6 finishes in majors this year was as good or better than the majority of the top 10 ranked players. Health is the only question in terms of him competing for more majors.

Being competitive isn’t the same as winning. Michelson won just after his 43rd birthday. Since then competitive yes, but hasn’t won. Palmer had a dozen top 5 finishes after his last major win, but couldn’t bring it home. Snead was competitive for many years after his last win. It’s not just health, it’s also erosion.

A great player still has talent as he ages. And the nature of the game is such that you don’t have to be great or even good every week. Just pull it all together at the right time. Tiger obviously has the talent, and maybe it will come together one week.

But as you age the drives are a little shorter, the approaches have a little less spin, the putts are a little less solid. That talent and experience sometimes come together for a magic round. But it has rarely stayed together for 4 rounds for players much after they turn 43.
there was only 1 other player as good as tiger  
Eric on Li : 8/13/2018 12:34 am : link
and he won a masters at age 46. Tiger was a couple millimeters worth of putts falling from setting a single round major scoring record, on day 4 trying to win from behind no less. If those putts would have dropped and he would have pulled it off it would have been one of the greatest closing rounds in a major ever. Just seems like an odd time to question his current talent level.

Also separately, Phil's driving average and ranking have been pretty steady over the past 5-6 years. This year he actually hit it further and had a better ranking than he had in 2013 - and he's not exactly the epitome of fitness.
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