Tiger, Rory, and JT going off at 9:23. Extremely hot/muggy in St. Louis and everyone saying the course/greens will play slow. Should be a great couple opening rounds with some of these groups.
I'm sure Tiger will be thinking about those putts on 1, 11, and 14 but it's not like Koepka or Scott were dropping shots and Tiger didn't play well.
He did, but Koepka just played better and didn't just hold on IMO, he went out and won this. (Barring a huge collapse of course)
Yeah I think more likely he's thinking about all the fairways he missed and especially the tee shot on 17. Not getting a putt at eagle (or birdie) on 17 was the killer. The next major he wins will be the one he finally dominates the par 5's.
I'm sure Tiger will be thinking about those putts on 1, 11, and 14 but it's not like Koepka or Scott were dropping shots and Tiger didn't play well.
He did, but Koepka just played better and didn't just hold on IMO, he went out and won this. (Barring a huge collapse of course)
Yeah I think more likely he's thinking about all the fairways he missed and especially the tee shot on 17. Not getting a putt at eagle (or birdie) on 17 was the killer. The next major he wins will be the one he finally dominates the par 5's.
No doubt he needs to clean that up but even with those missed fairways he scrambles and put himself in position to make those putts but just had some tough luck on them.
If being the key word there but they were all so damn close to going in.
I agree though, the tee shot on 17 was the killer, and he couldn't overcome that one.
That stat re Koepka having 40 (now 41 I think) birdie attempts < 18ft Â
he’s the best player in the game now if he wasn’t already. Congrats to Tiger too, Golf is simply too damn exciting when he’s in the mix - it’s good to see him healthy and competing. He solidified his Ryder Cup spot most likely, and that event should be awesome this year.
Simply cannot root for Adam Scott or anyone else that still uses the extended putter. It’s awful.
A couple of putts made or a couple of Koepka shots missed and he wins a major. Next year he’ll be playing on 3 courses where he has won majors in the past
where he lost focus cost Adam Scott over $400,000. Sure, Tiger had a lot to do with it, he was amazing, he missed most of the fairways and still somehow shoots a 64. And in the post-round interview you'd think he shot a 74 from listening to him.
I wonder if these guys think of it that way.
As they're finishing their round, even if they're not going to win, the difference between say 5th place and 6th place is 70k. That's an expensive missed putt for Justin Thomas (for example).
A couple of putts made or a couple of Koepka shots missed and he wins a major. Next year he’ll be playing on 3 courses where he has won majors in the past
Augusta
Pebble (US Open)
Bethpage (PGA)
True, but by the time he tees up at Augusta next year he will be older than all but 10 of the 400+ major champions in history. The last champion older than Tiger was Hale Irwin - when Tiger was 14 years old.
I wouldn’t put it past him, but this was likely his best shot.
Since Phil's 42nd bday (2012) he's won 1 major with 4 2nd places Â
Tiger is 42 right now, assuming he stays healthy I find it hard to believe he won't continue to be competitive over the next few years. 2 top 6 finishes in majors this year was as good or better than the majority of the top 10 ranked players. Health is the only question in terms of him competing for more majors.
where he lost focus cost Adam Scott over $400,000. Sure, Tiger had a lot to do with it, he was amazing, he missed most of the fairways and still somehow shoots a 64. And in the post-round interview you'd think he shot a 74 from listening to him.
That really says so much about him as a competitor. It's crazy that he posted that score even with 3 or 4 breaks going against him. The PGA champ scoring record is 63 and he was a couple inches a 1 tee shot away from beating it by multiple strokes.
A couple of putts made or a couple of Koepka shots missed and he wins a major. Next year he’ll be playing on 3 courses where he has won majors in the past
Augusta
Pebble (US Open)
Bethpage (PGA)
True, but by the time he tees up at Augusta next year he will be older than all but 10 of the 400+ major champions in history. The last champion older than Tiger was Hale Irwin - when Tiger was 14 years old.
I wouldn’t put it past him, but this was likely his best shot.
Hardly. He’ll be the odds on favorite to win the Masters next year if he continues playing this well through the playoffs and the early part of next season.
RE: Since Phil's 42nd bday (2012) he's won 1 major with 4 2nd places Â
Tiger is 42 right now, assuming he stays healthy I find it hard to believe he won't continue to be competitive over the next few years. 2 top 6 finishes in majors this year was as good or better than the majority of the top 10 ranked players. Health is the only question in terms of him competing for more majors.
Being competitive isn’t the same as winning. Michelson won just after his 43rd birthday. Since then competitive yes, but hasn’t won. Palmer had a dozen top 5 finishes after his last major win, but couldn’t bring it home. Snead was competitive for many years after his last win. It’s not just health, it’s also erosion.
A great player still has talent as he ages. And the nature of the game is such that you don’t have to be great or even good every week. Just pull it all together at the right time. Tiger obviously has the talent, and maybe it will come together one week.
But as you age the drives are a little shorter, the approaches have a little less spin, the putts are a little less solid. That talent and experience sometimes come together for a magic round. But it has rarely stayed together for 4 rounds for players much after they turn 43.
and he won a masters at age 46. Tiger was a couple millimeters worth of putts falling from setting a single round major scoring record, on day 4 trying to win from behind no less. If those putts would have dropped and he would have pulled it off it would have been one of the greatest closing rounds in a major ever. Just seems like an odd time to question his current talent level.
Also separately, Phil's driving average and ranking have been pretty steady over the past 5-6 years. This year he actually hit it further and had a better ranking than he had in 2013 - and he's not exactly the epitome of fitness.
Lol, and now all the Tiger haters can come out of their hiding place. You know they have been sweating it all day!
I’m sure Tiger and his $740 million will be too
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El Tigre isn't winning this. I'll cry myself to sleep.
Lol, and now all the Tiger haters can come out of their hiding place. You know they have been sweating it all day!
Hahaha. Touche. I was worried no doubt. I just can't stand him. Never have liked him & always root against him.
He did, but Koepka just played better and didn't just hold on IMO, he went out and won this. (Barring a huge collapse of course)
Yeah I think more likely he's thinking about all the fairways he missed and especially the tee shot on 17. Not getting a putt at eagle (or birdie) on 17 was the killer. The next major he wins will be the one he finally dominates the par 5's.
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I'm sure Tiger will be thinking about those putts on 1, 11, and 14 but it's not like Koepka or Scott were dropping shots and Tiger didn't play well.
He did, but Koepka just played better and didn't just hold on IMO, he went out and won this. (Barring a huge collapse of course)
Yeah I think more likely he's thinking about all the fairways he missed and especially the tee shot on 17. Not getting a putt at eagle (or birdie) on 17 was the killer. The next major he wins will be the one he finally dominates the par 5's.
No doubt he needs to clean that up but even with those missed fairways he scrambles and put himself in position to make those putts but just had some tough luck on them.
If being the key word there but they were all so damn close to going in.
I agree though, the tee shot on 17 was the killer, and he couldn't overcome that one.
Simply cannot root for Adam Scott or anyone else that still uses the extended putter. It’s awful.
Augusta
Pebble (US Open)
Bethpage (PGA)
Well Done.
Tiger finish 2nd as Adam Scott missed his par putt.
Augusta remains first, our Open remains in June at Pebble and the British will be played in Northern Ireland at Portrush in July
I wonder if these guys think of it that way.
As they're finishing their round, even if they're not going to win, the difference between say 5th place and 6th place is 70k. That's an expensive missed putt for Justin Thomas (for example).
Augusta
Pebble (US Open)
Bethpage (PGA)
True, but by the time he tees up at Augusta next year he will be older than all but 10 of the 400+ major champions in history. The last champion older than Tiger was Hale Irwin - when Tiger was 14 years old.
I wouldn’t put it past him, but this was likely his best shot.
That really says so much about him as a competitor. It's crazy that he posted that score even with 3 or 4 breaks going against him. The PGA champ scoring record is 63 and he was a couple inches a 1 tee shot away from beating it by multiple strokes.
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A couple of putts made or a couple of Koepka shots missed and he wins a major. Next year he’ll be playing on 3 courses where he has won majors in the past
Augusta
Pebble (US Open)
Bethpage (PGA)
True, but by the time he tees up at Augusta next year he will be older than all but 10 of the 400+ major champions in history. The last champion older than Tiger was Hale Irwin - when Tiger was 14 years old.
I wouldn’t put it past him, but this was likely his best shot.
Hardly. He’ll be the odds on favorite to win the Masters next year if he continues playing this well through the playoffs and the early part of next season.
Being competitive isn’t the same as winning. Michelson won just after his 43rd birthday. Since then competitive yes, but hasn’t won. Palmer had a dozen top 5 finishes after his last major win, but couldn’t bring it home. Snead was competitive for many years after his last win. It’s not just health, it’s also erosion.
A great player still has talent as he ages. And the nature of the game is such that you don’t have to be great or even good every week. Just pull it all together at the right time. Tiger obviously has the talent, and maybe it will come together one week.
But as you age the drives are a little shorter, the approaches have a little less spin, the putts are a little less solid. That talent and experience sometimes come together for a magic round. But it has rarely stayed together for 4 rounds for players much after they turn 43.
Also separately, Phil's driving average and ranking have been pretty steady over the past 5-6 years. This year he actually hit it further and had a better ranking than he had in 2013 - and he's not exactly the epitome of fitness.