Game day - what are you looking for?

Of course, it will be mostly vanilla, not game planned much, but this is our first chance to see him in action. Curious to see mix of formations too, expecting a lot more 2 TE

R. Shepard and Latimore. Not much action for OBJ, Engram, S. Shepard in this one.

...from the OL.

The last few years, it obvious we can't move the pile and defenders are either right on top of our RBs or there are simply no holes.

I'd also like to see if our blocking schemes are changing.

and how this new defense meshes together. Lots of new pieces here, everywhere. So we will see how well this new coaching staff has progressed getting it together. Tough assignment but they seem dedicated and smart, hoping for the best.

Latimer :)

In comment 14033231 stoneman said:

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R. Shepard and Latimore. Not much action for OBJ, Engram, S. Shepard in this one.

I'm looking to see how Barwin and Carter are used. And, as always, the offensive line..

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...anxious to see how he looks after observing all last year, and going thru an offseason.

I want him to look more like a prospect, and not like Ryan Nassib.

And the new 3-4. These 2 things I believe are going to cause the best improvement or the reason this team does not get better. Lastly, want to see who steps forward as our 3rd CB.

1. No injuries
2. No injuries
3. No injuries
4. Offensive Line
5. Davis Webb

in the battle to back up. I'm sure they'll get plenty of snaps.

Will Hernandez and Barkley running behind him.

Obviously Barkley, too.

I'd say the defense, but I doubt Bettcher will have them show much. Especially tonight. It'll probably be pretty basic stuff.

In comment 14033233 BillKo said:

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...from the OL. The last few years, it obvious we can't move the pile and defenders are either right on top of our RBs or there are simply no holes. I'd also like to see if our blocking schemes are changing.

Be cool if they show they can actually handle the stunt on occasion too!

That's pretty much it besides health.

Would like to see at least a couple of runs and have him catch a pass in space, to see what he can do.

Other than that I guess Webb, since I assume that he will play the lion's share of the game.

I was going to say that I wanted to see the new "D" but they may decide to keep it vanilla in the pre-season.

1. I want to see the 1st team and 2nd team OLs just give the QBs a chance to function.
2. Want to see how the CBs perform. From Apple to Haley to Leonard Johnson. Also looking at the FS spot.
3. Davis Webb

the 3-4 defense looks like.

Since this is my very first glimpse of the team since ‘17 ended, I need to learn the uni numbers for those who are likely to be on the final 53..

Then Barkley of course. Otherwise don’t really care all that much about how the O starters do. I will concentrate on those I have not seen at all.

On D, I suspect Bettcher will keep it vanilla so I’ll have to wait for when they play for real vs Jax.

I’ll watch the 30-40 minute version on GamePass as well as the longer version, both commercial-free

He should get plenty of playing time.
Can he perform in a game?

but injuries are going to happen either way..so thats pointless

OL how they begin to gel

webb and what he looks like

dbs

new hybrid 3-4 defense and how up 3 guys on line perform

It would be icing on the cake if we could get pressure from front 3.
I'd really like to see something from the #3 Corner and #2 safety.

Oline get some push in the running game. Barkley doing something as a runner. Backup Oline not looking like a disaster.

Poise in the pocket from Eli (also like to see accuracy in down field throws).

Young guys make some plays on specials.

Most importantly, I'd like to see signs of Davis Webb looking like he might be the future.

in preseason as a result of "vanilla" offense. Then, two years in a row, the Giants offense proved it really was terrible.

I'm done being an optimist if the offense doesn't look at least decent in preseason. Not necessarily tonight, since its the first game, but before this preseason is over I'd like to see some actual rushing yardage, some sustained drives, and some open damn receivers. Competent play, starting tonight.

Or what, you might say? Nothing except tempering my enthusiasm.

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In comment 14033284 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Yup. As I said, no MAJOR INJURIES

In comment 14033277 mikeinbloomfield said:

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in preseason as a result of "vanilla" offense. Then, two years in a row, the Giants offense proved it really was terrible. I'm done being an optimist if the offense doesn't look at least decent in preseason. Not necessarily tonight, since its the first game, but before this preseason is over I'd like to see some actual rushing yardage, some sustained drives, and some open damn receivers. Competent play, starting tonight. Or what, you might say? Nothing except tempering my enthusiasm.

Except McAdoo kept it vanilla in the regular season as well, albeit injuries were contributory. Having seen Shurmur’s work before, I’m very CONFIDENT the vanilla will end when the preseason does

+1

That is all that matters in this first preseason game. Sit all the projected starters in games 1, 3 (versus “they don’t know it’s a damn show” Jets) and 4 as far as I’m concerned.

and lauletta.

also good fundamentals across the board, protecting the ball, solid tackling technique.

In comment 14033291 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 14033277 mikeinbloomfield said: Quote: in preseason as a result of "vanilla" offense. Then, two years in a row, the Giants offense proved it really was terrible. I'm done being an optimist if the offense doesn't look at least decent in preseason. Not necessarily tonight, since its the first game, but before this preseason is over I'd like to see some actual rushing yardage, some sustained drives, and some open damn receivers. Competent play, starting tonight. Or what, you might say? Nothing except tempering my enthusiasm. Except McAdoo kept it vanilla in the regular season as well, albeit injuries were contributory. Having seen Shurmur’s work before, I’m very CONFIDENT the vanilla will end when the preseason does

But it has been an ongoing excuse around here that pre-dates HWSNBN II. While I don't expect any coach to open up their bag of tricks in preseason, the "vanilla" excuse has been bandied around here to excuse poor play.

First and foremost, I want to see no injuries. But after that, I want to see competent, competitive play. Our backups should still be competitive against their backups. If we look bad executing a "vanilla" offense, it isn't going to buoy confidence that we will be able to flip the switch and execute more complex play-calls.

In comment 14033241 arcarsenal said:

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1. No injuries 2. No injuries 3. No injuries 4. Offensive Line 5. Davis Webb

THIS and no injuries....!!!

In comment 14033307 Diver_Down said:

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In comment 14033291 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: In comment 14033277 mikeinbloomfield said: Quote: in preseason as a result of "vanilla" offense. Then, two years in a row, the Giants offense proved it really was terrible. I'm done being an optimist if the offense doesn't look at least decent in preseason. Not necessarily tonight, since its the first game, but before this preseason is over I'd like to see some actual rushing yardage, some sustained drives, and some open damn receivers. Competent play, starting tonight. Or what, you might say? Nothing except tempering my enthusiasm. Except McAdoo kept it vanilla in the regular season as well, albeit injuries were contributory. Having seen Shurmur’s work before, I’m very CONFIDENT the vanilla will end when the preseason does But it has been an ongoing excuse around here that pre-dates HWSNBN II. While I don't expect any coach to open up their bag of tricks in preseason, the "vanilla" excuse has been bandied around here to excuse poor play. First and foremost, I want to see no injuries. But after that, I want to see competent, competitive play. Our backups should still be competitive against their backups. If we look bad executing a "vanilla" offense, it isn't going to buoy confidence that we will be able to flip the switch and execute more complex play-calls.

I think there are sometimes warning signs in the preseason. I'd be less inclined to get excited because the team looked good, but if they look bad, especially physically, that can absolutely be a red flag. It doesn't mean things can't improve. Teams can improve/decline even once the real games begin, so there are never any certainties. But I do think many of the issues we saw the past couple pre-seasons were signs of legitimate issues.

So looking forward to a lot of the rooks and important backups, like Henandez, Zo-Cart, Hill, Dragon and Lauletta.

That he gets us excited about his future with the Giants

Will Hernandez in space, blocking on a screen, and see how physical he is and how well he moves. Curious to see how Flowers plays on the right side. Also, I want to see Webb in a two minute drill and his decision making.

On first possession, and sits for rest of game

Webb comes in and lights it up within his arm and makes plays with his legs.

That s what I m looking for

No injuries and win the game ......

and the OL.

and how the corners cover

want to get out of preseason without injuries. The Giants' offense is full of players not there last year. The line is all new for these players in these positions and we have a returning OBJ and an arriving Barkley. The defense is changing from 4-3 to 3-4.

This team is going to take time to learn to play as a unit, and if you don't play them in the preseason, the learning period is going to all come when the games count.

Injuries strike kind of like lightning. You can try to minimize the danger by leaving the starters off the field in pre-season, but you have no control. Injuries could knock out two players during the 10 minutes they're on the field in a preseason game.

It's a tough call. If you believe that OBJ's season ending injury would not have occurred if he hadn't been hurt in the preseason, then you would really have to worry when he was on the field. He could be an intentional target.

O-line see if they are progressing .
Webb and some of the potential type player Goodson Okwara
Adams Moss Thomlinson carter Armstrong and the back end
Apple Thompson Gay .
Add in the kicking game ...

In comment 14033307 Diver_Down said:

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In comment 14033291 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: In comment 14033277 mikeinbloomfield said: Quote: in preseason as a result of "vanilla" offense. Then, two years in a row, the Giants offense proved it really was terrible. I'm done being an optimist if the offense doesn't look at least decent in preseason. Not necessarily tonight, since its the first game, but before this preseason is over I'd like to see some actual rushing yardage, some sustained drives, and some open damn receivers. Competent play, starting tonight. Or what, you might say? Nothing except tempering my enthusiasm. Except McAdoo kept it vanilla in the regular season as well, albeit injuries were contributory. Having seen Shurmur’s work before, I’m very CONFIDENT the vanilla will end when the preseason does But it has been an ongoing excuse around here that pre-dates HWSNBN II. While I don't expect any coach to open up their bag of tricks in preseason, the "vanilla" excuse has been bandied around here to excuse poor play. First and foremost, I want to see no injuries. But after that, I want to see competent, competitive play. Our backups should still be competitive against their backups. If we look bad executing a "vanilla" offense, it isn't going to buoy confidence that we will be able to flip the switch and execute more complex play-calls.

yes that has always been the excuse on this site.

look like a unit that has ability..whether "vanilla" or not a keen eye can tell was will roll over into the season..and past several ones poor ol play was obvious to see.

We really don't know what we have there yet, I think we'll start to get a sense after their play tonight.

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and how the corners cover

this - especially Apple who from initial accounts has turned things around.

will do...

Unexpected excellence that has the opposing coach cross the field to shake hands and say "Number 80, holy shit!" the way Rex Ryan did.

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In comment 14033564 Jimmy Googs said:

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will do...

with all the ridiculous hype, poor guy has to play above and beyond anything less he'll hear it

But a very short injury list after the game is always the most preferred thing for me during preseason...

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Runs for TD also.

PDs.

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