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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2018 6:52 pm
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I am pumped  
montanagiant : 8/9/2018 6:53 pm : link
FOOTBALL IS BACK BABY!!!!
RE: I am pumped  
BleedBlue : 8/9/2018 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14033738 montanagiant said:
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FOOTBALL IS BACK BABY!!!!



me too!!! football is here! lets go blue! ]


heres to a great season BBI! Hope we all enjoy and have something to root for!!


Go Giants!
A  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 6:55 pm : link
new era. We leave last year behind us. Let's go Giants!
Let's go!  
adamg : 8/9/2018 6:58 pm : link
Saquon baby!
Fired up!  
RDJR : 8/9/2018 7:00 pm : link
Lets go!
Did Mayfield arrive in the RV?  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 7:03 pm : link
Hope that 4th string QB has the snacks for him and Taylor.
ny pride  
UESBLUE : 8/9/2018 7:06 pm : link
is back.
READY FOR THIS!  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:06 pm : link
Let's Go Giants!
Is kick-off 7 or 730?  
Sneakers O'toole : 8/9/2018 7:07 pm : link
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Dear lord  
big_blue : 8/9/2018 7:07 pm : link
When is kick off?!
Hope the NFL Network...  
Jim in Tampa : 8/9/2018 7:08 pm : link
Has the NY feed. Nothing worse than listening to the other teams broadcast crew.
What no  
PEEJ : 8/9/2018 7:08 pm : link
anthem ?
Maybe it's just me  
DieHard : 8/9/2018 7:08 pm : link
But Eli looked a little skinnier than usual in warmups. Wonder if he's on a new training regimen.
Poor decision  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:08 pm : link
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Loud ovation for Saquon as he walked on the field  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:08 pm : link
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Good grief I thought those idiots on NFL network  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 7:08 pm : link
would never shut up.

Go Giants
That's some  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 7:08 pm : link
Giants special teams play right there!
Me like!!!  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:09 pm : link
Sweet jump cut
WooooH  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:09 pm : link
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Saquon breaks out for 38 yards  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:09 pm : link
on his first carry. Ridiculous patience and stutter-step to give him the opening
as advertised!!!  
BleedBlue : 8/9/2018 7:09 pm : link
lets goooo
we have  
UESBLUE : 8/9/2018 7:09 pm : link
a RB !
Oh my.  
bceagle05 : 8/9/2018 7:09 pm : link
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Holy shit  
montanagiant : 8/9/2018 7:09 pm : link
He broke ankles on that run
Saquon !!!!!!!!11  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/9/2018 7:09 pm : link
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Wow.  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:09 pm : link
Terrific jump cut and vision.
RE: Maybe it's just me  
eric2425ny : 8/9/2018 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14033760 DieHard said:
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But Eli looked a little skinnier than usual in warmups. Wonder if he's on a new training regimen.


He was probably stress eating last year because of McAclown. Excited to see our new offense with a real offensive mind!
haha. First touch goes for 40  
ZGiants98 : 8/9/2018 7:10 pm : link
Awesome.
Reminded a little like Rodney Hampton's first touch  
short lease : 8/9/2018 7:10 pm : link
cept RH went to the house ... still 40 yards ain't bad. Nice patience and elusiveness.
Stewart needs to do better then that  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:10 pm : link
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That's an obvious flag  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:11 pm : link
head to head on a defenseless receiver
Fuck Yea...  
JCin332 : 8/9/2018 7:11 pm : link
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Big penalty  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:11 pm : link
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Gregg Williams defense  
bceagle05 : 8/9/2018 7:11 pm : link
doing Gregg Williams things.
SAQUON!!  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 7:12 pm : link
Beautiful cut and run. Looked like Tiki

nice taunt by  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:12 pm : link
Cleveland to set the tone.

Sharp needs to haul that in.
Sharp needs to catch that  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 7:12 pm : link
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That was a really, really poor  
MookGiants : 8/9/2018 7:12 pm : link
throw on third down from Eli. Still needs to be caught, but poor timing, behind him
Could  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:12 pm : link
have penalized him for taunting or a helmet to helmet hit.
Ellison needs to  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:13 pm : link
look for the ball on that route. Come on!
Now the offense is looking offensive  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:13 pm : link
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This pass offense needs some work  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:13 pm : link
...
...  
BleedBlue : 8/9/2018 7:13 pm : link
OL looked solid, barkley is well...amazing
RE: This pass offense needs some work  
montanagiant : 8/9/2018 7:14 pm : link
In comment 14033791 dpinzow said:
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Of course it does, it's a whole new scheme
good to see from Rosas  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:14 pm : link
but pass offense didn't impress there.
Rosas FG is good, 3-0 Giants  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:14 pm : link
Looks to have different kicking mechanics than last year at least based on that kick
Nice  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:14 pm : link
drive. Some misfires in the passing game, but that's to be expected.
...  
Dodge : 8/9/2018 7:14 pm : link
Saquon kind of looks like Tiki with his helmet on.
Eli had some time on that drive....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:14 pm : link
Oline still very much a work in progress however
RE: Rosas FG is good, 3-0 Giants  
guitarguybs12 : 8/9/2018 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14033795 dpinzow said:
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Looks to have different kicking mechanics than last year at least based on that kick


Yeah...a lot more loft on the ball
The 1st offensive drive under Shurmur  
Jay on the Island : 8/9/2018 7:15 pm : link
was better than any preseason drive last year LOL.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 7:15 pm : link
Saquon looks good.
Meh drive after Saquon broke ankles  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 7:15 pm : link
At least Rojas got the FG. And Eli didnt get killed, so theres that.
Pass O  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 7:16 pm : link
Will also look better with Odell in there
Right side still not getting push in the run game  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:16 pm : link
on that drive
My thoughts  
Dodge : 8/9/2018 7:16 pm : link
Not a 3 and out? We won.
Trying to remember..  
Bill L : 8/9/2018 7:16 pm : link
Did Eli play in the first preseason game last year?
The 39-yard carry by Saquon would have been a loss of yards  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:16 pm : link
with the other RBs on the roster last year or at best a short gain. The jump cut and patience created the run as it was not well blocked at first
RE: Trying to remember..  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2018 7:17 pm : link
In comment 14033806 Bill L said:
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Did Eli play in the first preseason game last year?
no
JEnkins has to get his freaking head around!  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:18 pm : link
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Terrific  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:18 pm : link
throw and catch despite the pressure.
Why did Manning  
NewBlue : 8/9/2018 7:18 pm : link
Dump off after he stepped up in the pocket on 3rd & 10?
Give up lay in plus territory
Jenkins needs to get his head turned around  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 7:18 pm : link
Faster.
Lol Cleveland  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:18 pm : link
showing it's full arsenal of taunts so far.
RE: The 39-yard carry by Saquon would have been a loss of yards  
ajr2456 : 8/9/2018 7:19 pm : link
In comment 14033807 dpinzow said:
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with the other RBs on the roster last year or at best a short gain. The jump cut and patience created the run as it was not well blocked at first


Agreed on this. Line didn't do much, that was all Saquon
The  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:19 pm : link
Browns are about to get half their team ejected.
OL looked fairly good there  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 7:19 pm : link
some holes, time to throw, and Clevelands DL is not bad
Landry is a special player  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 7:19 pm : link
But that was a dumb ass move. Should have just said bless him.
nice to see Collins  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:19 pm : link
active early - had the pressure on first play as well
RE: RE: The 39-yard carry by Saquon would have been a loss of yards  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:20 pm : link
In comment 14033814 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 14033807 dpinzow said:


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with the other RBs on the roster last year or at best a short gain. The jump cut and patience created the run as it was not well blocked at first



Agreed on this. Line didn't do much, that was all Saquon


Flowers actually had the best block. He was the one guy who cleared out his man
Collins is going to have a big  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 7:20 pm : link
Season.
Collins looking great so far  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 7:20 pm : link
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RE: Why did Manning  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 7:21 pm : link
In comment 14033811 NewBlue said:
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Dump off after he stepped up in the pocket on 3rd & 10?
Give up lay in plus territory


It wasn't a bad idea. Get it to Shepard 1-on-1 and see if he can get the first. The defender made a nice tackle
I can see blocking on returns hasnt gotten  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:21 pm : link
much better. Quinn doing his masterful work still. LOL
Collins in midseason form  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 7:22 pm : link
I like the look of Bettchers defense. Someone coming on every play
Defense  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:22 pm : link
is aggressive.
Probably last drive for mot offensive starters.....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:22 pm : link
maybe Oline sticks around for a quarter
RE: The 39-yard carry by Saquon would have been a loss of yards  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14033807 dpinzow said:
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with the other RBs on the roster last year or at best a short gain. The jump cut and patience created the run as it was not well blocked at first


Saquon is unlike any RB the Giants have ever had.
...  
Toth029 : 8/9/2018 7:23 pm : link
DL looks so beefy. That allowed Collins to come in untouched.
Terrible blocking there  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:24 pm : link
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Stewart should not run wide  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/9/2018 7:24 pm : link
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James Stewart running wide?  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 7:24 pm : link
Eh
Hernadez  
Pork Chop : 8/9/2018 7:25 pm : link
is handling his man every play
Stewart looks awful.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 7:25 pm : link
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good quick look to Shep  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:26 pm : link
against the blitz
Nice hot route there for the first  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 7:26 pm : link
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Halapio did just well enough  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:26 pm : link
for Eli to find Shepard. Nice protection on the blitz
Thats stewarts  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:27 pm : link
Forte
Good timing with Sharp  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:27 pm : link
on the back-shoulder throw there

followed by a nice workmanlike 4 for Stewart for the 1st
Night and day watching Barkley vs Stewart  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 7:28 pm : link
what a difference
The NFL app craps out every 5 seconds  
Larry in Pencilvania : 8/9/2018 7:28 pm : link
but NOOOOOOO not during commercials
We  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:28 pm : link
still need to work on screens.
There's the difference between college and the NFL  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:28 pm : link
in college Saquon is off to the races. In the NFL the LBs and DBs are fast enough to stop that just as he turns the corner
Barkley  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:28 pm : link
is exciting even when he's just getting a couple.

Really stays over his feet is my first initial thought.

Dang, could have been something with the screen to Stewart there.
Was that on Stewart or Eli  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:28 pm : link
that screen looked horrible
That screen was set up well  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 7:29 pm : link
Eli rushed the throw
Stewart looks like  
rocco8112 : 8/9/2018 7:29 pm : link


crap
OLine a mixed bag at best thus far.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 7:29 pm : link
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RE: Was that on Stewart or Eli  
rocco8112 : 8/9/2018 7:29 pm : link
In comment 14033845 Simms11 said:
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that screen looked horrible


looked like it went off the RB's head to me
Still can't run a screen  
Rflairr : 8/9/2018 7:29 pm : link
lol
That time Halapio just got clean beat  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:29 pm : link
by the blitz and Eli had no chance
Stewart blew the block!  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:29 pm : link
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OL...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 7:29 pm : link
A work in progress.
RE: Stewart looks awful.  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 7:29 pm : link
In comment 14033834 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Agreed. He looks like hes running in quicksand compared to Barkley. And he almost got Eli killed there.
Stewart  
MookGiants : 8/9/2018 7:30 pm : link
looks horrible so far
Bad teamwork  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/9/2018 7:30 pm : link
On oline and Gallman on that sack.
Stewart killed that whole drive  
rocco8112 : 8/9/2018 7:30 pm : link
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Hunter Sharp looks concussed  
BlueHurricane : 8/9/2018 7:30 pm : link
Every time he is on camera he is blinking and looking like he is clearing the cobwebs
38 yard punt  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 7:30 pm : link
Progress?
Thats terrible for a vet RB  
Rflairr : 8/9/2018 7:30 pm : link
He totally missed his guy
Blown  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:30 pm : link
assignment. Welcome to preseason.
Halapio  
Jay in Toronto : 8/9/2018 7:30 pm : link
Was a statue.
RE: Stewart  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14033855 MookGiants said:
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looks horrible so far


yeah, it's been a horrid two series for him aside from that decent 4 yd gain on 2nd and 3 in that last possession
RE: Stewart blew the block!  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14033852 Simms11 said:
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Yes, but Halapio blew it first. They both missed the blitzer and that's Halapio's responsibility first as he's the OL
RE: 38 yard punt  
adamg : 8/9/2018 7:31 pm : link
In comment 14033859 mfsd said:
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Progress?


At least it wasn't one of those 50 yard punts with a 20 yard return...
More Gallman  
BlueHurricane : 8/9/2018 7:31 pm : link
Less Stewart
My bad  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/9/2018 7:31 pm : link
Sterwart. Man he sucks. DaMN NY Panthers. Sb would have packaged the blitzer.
RE: Thats terrible for a vet RB  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14033860 Rflairr said:
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He totally missed his guy


Blocked the wrong guy....Both Halapio and Stewart went to block the same guy. Theyll learn from this.
RE: RE: 38 yard punt  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14033865 adamg said:
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In comment 14033859 mfsd said:


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Progress?



At least it wasn't one of those 50 yard punts with a 20 yard return...


Haha yup
Stewart looked done last season.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 7:32 pm : link
A WTF? move to me when we signed him.
Stewart  
slickwilly : 8/9/2018 7:32 pm : link
has looked awful so far. Hopefully Gallman has a good preseason and puts Stewie on the bench.
Hopefully Stewart is running short yardage and goaline  
Larry in Pencilvania : 8/9/2018 7:32 pm : link
and never doing what he's doing tonight
RE: Bad teamwork  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2018 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14033856 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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On oline and Gallman on that sack.
since gallman was on the bench that is a little harsh
Growing Pains  
Rong5611 : 8/9/2018 7:33 pm : link
The o line looks like it is still a work in progress.
Sigh  
Dave on the UWS : 8/9/2018 7:33 pm : link
The center and Stewart both blocked the same guy
A lot  
ajr2456 : 8/9/2018 7:33 pm : link
Of short and intermediate stuff.
Wtf was Apple going?  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:33 pm : link
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RE: Hunter Sharp looks concussed  
shyster : 8/9/2018 7:33 pm : link
In comment 14033858 BlueHurricane said:
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Every time he is on camera he is blinking and looking like he is clearing the cobwebs


Got nailed helmet to helmet by Ward on the play that was called taunting.

Don't know why ref didn't call that with all the emphasis.
Apple looked like a fool on that one.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 7:33 pm : link
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Center guard and stewart  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
Couldnt block 2 guys.

Apple look lost on that play and ogletree just got smoked.
Ugh that was not good!  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
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Yikes.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
Was that on Ogeltree?
oh joy!  
gtt350 : 8/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
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Way too  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
Easy.
Apple  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
was just tossed aside. And now Njoku for the TD. Beats Ogletree.
Bitz backfired  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
TD
Why no blitz there?  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
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Njoku just ran right by Ogletree  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:34 pm : link
for the TD. Ogletree looked slow as hell on that play
RE: Why no blitz there?  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:35 pm : link
In comment 14033887 Simms11 said:
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I guess thats what happened. They did blitz and got caught.
Taylor is a good QB  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 7:36 pm : link
I don't really get why the Bills were obsessed with letting him go.
Thompson was late getting over  
bubba0825 : 8/9/2018 7:36 pm : link
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Njoku  
Jim in Tampa : 8/9/2018 7:36 pm : link
Was the TE I wanted. Hopefully Engram turns out to be the better pro.
Hopefully TEs dont kill us again this year....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:37 pm : link
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Njoku  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:37 pm : link
is a bad match up for almost any LB, just like Engram. The Browns did a good job isolating him on Ogletree.
Taylor  
NewBlue : 8/9/2018 7:37 pm : link
Putting the ball on the money several times
Work in progress  
UberAlias : 8/9/2018 7:37 pm : link
Still think team is a year away.
I believe the subject was...  
njm : 8/9/2018 7:37 pm : link
LBs covering TEs.
RE: Taylor is a good QB  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14033891 santacruzom said:
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I don't really get why the Bills were obsessed with letting him go.


Cant win games with his arm.
That was a good return by Sharp  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:38 pm : link
all the way out to the 42
Good heads up run by Sharp.....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:38 pm : link
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nice return by Sharp  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:38 pm : link
some good signs from him on special between the return and the coverage on the punt.
Nice return there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 7:38 pm : link
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RE: Work in progress  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14033898 UberAlias said:
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Still think team is a year away.


It's been less than a quarter in preseason...
Njoku is pretty fast  
Dave on the UWS : 8/9/2018 7:38 pm : link
Ogletree covering is a mismatch
DAVIS WEBB SIGHTING  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:38 pm : link
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Nice  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:38 pm : link
return by Sharp.
It would be nice if barkley  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2018 7:38 pm : link
Got more than one touch in a row
Seemed like Ogletree took a poor angle  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 7:39 pm : link
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Alright...  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 7:39 pm : link
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We're  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:39 pm : link
just not good at screens.
Ogletree was  
slickwilly : 8/9/2018 7:39 pm : link
In a no win position. He was pretty much lined up over center and was asked to drop out of that and go cover a fast TE in the slot.
Surprised  
Jay in Toronto : 8/9/2018 7:40 pm : link
OL out
Gallman  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2018 7:41 pm : link
Is better than Stewart
RE: Ogletree was  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14033916 slickwilly said:
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In a no win position. He was pretty much lined up over center and was asked to drop out of that and go cover a fast TE in the slot.


Yup. Bad throw by Webb.
Ugh.......  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:41 pm : link
Ugly, ugly series......no starters in however
When was the last time this team had a 3rd and long  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 7:41 pm : link
and actually threw the ball beyond the marker?
Webb better be a nervous wreck to run a drive like that  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 7:41 pm : link
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Baker Mayfield makes his debut  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:42 pm : link
gets booed
Paul Dottino's hero looking positively Dave Brown-y.  
bceagle05 : 8/9/2018 7:42 pm : link
Settle in, kid!
RE: We're  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 7:42 pm : link
In comment 14033915 AcidTest said:
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just not good at screens.


Yup, 2 screens that were set up well, but QB/RB flubbed the pass
Wow  
XBRONX : 8/9/2018 7:43 pm : link
the offense has two games to get shit together.
Absolute  
NorwoodWideRight : 8/9/2018 7:43 pm : link
train wreck.
2-15 and you have Webb hand off?  
UberAlias : 8/9/2018 7:43 pm : link
Why? What is the point of that? Seriously, give the kid 2 downs to see if he can convert.
Is Barkley done for the night?  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 7:44 pm : link
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Webb just doesn't look the part to me  
Go Terps : 8/9/2018 7:44 pm : link
Mechanically the guy's feet and arm don't seem to be working together. For a guy that is a coach's kid and supposedly puts the work in, for that to be an issue this late in the game makes me wonder if it will ever get better.
Run D has been looking seriously stout  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:44 pm : link
which is a positive!
Another poor decision by Sharp.....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:45 pm : link
Hes trying too hard
RE: 2-15 and you have Webb hand off?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 7:45 pm : link
In comment 14033930 UberAlias said:
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Why? What is the point of that? Seriously, give the kid 2 downs to see if he can convert.


He got a screen pass tipped and botched a routine throw before that.

dangerous throw  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
by Webb to end the quarter
Webb  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
Sheesh.
Webb has looked shaky  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
So far.
RE: Another poor decision by Sharp.....  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
In comment 14033934 Simms11 said:
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Hes trying too hard


He just sucks
RE: 2-15 and you have Webb hand off?  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
In comment 14033930 UberAlias said:
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Why? What is the point of that? Seriously, give the kid 2 downs to see if he can convert.


Because its preseason?
thrown into double coverage  
NYDCBlue : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
Webb got lucky there.
yeesh, what did Webb see before throwing into traffic like  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
that.

Nothing good so far from Webb.
Why is it so hard for them to complete a pass of more than 5 yards  
nyjuggernaut2 : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
??
Webb looking downright terrible......  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
Im sure nerves have something to do with it.
Becoming clearer why Webb didn't play last season.  
bceagle05 : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
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Davis Webb looks like a QB who got absolutely zero practice  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:46 pm : link
last year
RE: Run D has been looking seriously stout  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 7:47 pm : link
In comment 14033933 Simms11 said:
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which is a positive!


The Law Firm of Harrison, Tomlinson & Hill
RE: Webb just doesn't look the part to me  
ajr2456 : 8/9/2018 7:47 pm : link
In comment 14033932 Go Terps said:
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Mechanically the guy's feet and arm don't seem to be working together. For a guy that is a coach's kid and supposedly puts the work in, for that to be an issue this late in the game makes me wonder if it will ever get better.


And with basically a full year to work on his mechanics since he was the number 3.
Webb  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:47 pm : link
got lucky that wasn't intercepted, but let's relax and not judge him or anyone else off a few plays.
I was expecting -some- sort of positive move forward  
NorwoodWideRight : 8/9/2018 7:48 pm : link
From last year's shit show. Sadly, I see none.
RE: Webb just doesn't look the part to me  
The_Boss : 8/9/2018 7:48 pm : link
In comment 14033932 Go Terps said:
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Mechanically the guy's feet and arm don't seem to be working together. For a guy that is a coach's kid and supposedly puts the work in, for that to be an issue this late in the game makes me wonder if it will ever get better.


Agree 100%. My concern is beyond this year. Eli is 38. If Webb and (likely) Lauletta aren't the guys, Gettleman can put together a kick ass roster, but it won't mean squat without a legit QB.
RE: RE: 2-15 and you have Webb hand off?  
UberAlias : 8/9/2018 7:48 pm : link
In comment 14033940 RobCarpenter said:
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In comment 14033930 UberAlias said:


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Why? What is the point of that? Seriously, give the kid 2 downs to see if he can convert.



Because its preseason?
Um, yeah. Thats exactky why you see what he can do. How else are you going to evaluate the kid???
RE: I was expecting -some- sort of positive move forward  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 7:48 pm : link
In comment 14033950 NorwoodWideRight said:
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From last year's shit show. Sadly, I see none.


Are you fucking serious? It's a quarter of preseason play.
RE: RE: Webb just doesn't look the part to me  
ZGiants98 : 8/9/2018 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14033951 The_Boss said:
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In comment 14033932 Go Terps said:


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Mechanically the guy's feet and arm don't seem to be working together. For a guy that is a coach's kid and supposedly puts the work in, for that to be an issue this late in the game makes me wonder if it will ever get better.



Agree 100%. My concern is beyond this year. Eli is 38. If Webb and (likely) Lauletta aren't the guys, Gettleman can put together a kick ass roster, but it won't mean squat without a legit QB.


Eli is 37
Eh hes thrown 3 passes  
Dave on the UWS : 8/9/2018 7:49 pm : link
Cut him
Webb  
Rong5611 : 8/9/2018 7:49 pm : link
Not making good decisions.
So Tyrod Taylor  
prdave73 : 8/9/2018 7:49 pm : link
Just torched the Giants starting defense? Ok.. smh..
RE: I was expecting -some- sort of positive move forward  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14033950 NorwoodWideRight said:
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From last year's shit show. Sadly, I see none.


Barkley and Hernandez by themselves are steps forward from last year
Had Shepard wide open......  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:50 pm : link
Webb just doesnt look comfortable
Now Webb I'm a bit concerned about  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 7:50 pm : link
.
Webb  
XBRONX : 8/9/2018 7:50 pm : link
blows
Webb had six or  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:50 pm : link
at least a huge gainer there.

Awful start to the pre-season for him.

Punting game has been pretty solid thus far.
Well,  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:50 pm : link
he obviously overthrew a wide open Shepard.
36 yard punt is not good!  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:50 pm : link
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Now we know why he was not ready last year  
montanagiant : 8/9/2018 7:50 pm : link
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Davis Webb or whateve his name is looks like garbage  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 7:51 pm : link
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RE: RE: I was expecting -some- sort of positive move forward  
NorwoodWideRight : 8/9/2018 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14033953 BestFeature said:
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In comment 14033950 NorwoodWideRight said:


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From last year's shit show. Sadly, I see none.



Are you fucking serious? It's a quarter of preseason play.


Yeah, I'm fucking serious. I don't care if it's the first play from scrimmage in the first pre-season game. There should be -some- improvement. Aside from the Barkley run, nada.
RE: So Tyrod Taylor  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14033957 prdave73 said:
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Just torched the Giants starting defense? Ok.. smh..


Well, Njoku did. But no LB can run with that guy.
RE: I was expecting -some- sort of positive move forward  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:51 pm : link
In comment 14033950 NorwoodWideRight said:
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From last year's shit show. Sadly, I see none.


Ah, the measured perspective of the BBI game thread. How I have missed it!
I  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:51 pm : link
didn't realize Mauro is from England.
RE: RE: Run D has been looking seriously stout  
crick n NC : 8/9/2018 7:52 pm : link
In comment 14033947 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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which is a positive!



The Law Firm of Harrison, Tomlinson & Hill


👍
Secondary so far looks horrendous as well.  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:52 pm : link
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nice work by Baker  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:52 pm : link
and Higgins there.
Yeah, Giants QB future is secure  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 7:52 pm : link
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Don't Want to Overreact About Webb...  
Jim in Tampa : 8/9/2018 7:52 pm : link
But inaccurate QBs don't usually get more accurate with practice. Hope I'm wrong.
RE: Had Shepard wide open......  
lax counsel : 8/9/2018 7:53 pm : link
In comment 14033959 Simms11 said:
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Webb just doesnt look comfortable


This is the same Webb that Ive said for months. This is who he is, poor deep Ball accuracy and trouble reading defenses. This is who he was Im college. Lets see what the next several series holds, hopefully improvement.
Its only the Browns  
JoeFootball : 8/9/2018 7:53 pm : link
But 98, 95 and 94 are going to make running between the tackles a wasted down for opponents.
Can we at least give Webb one full quarter in the first preseason game  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 7:54 pm : link
before we cut him?
Fells is on the Browns  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 7:54 pm : link
?
Another thing to consider regarding Webb...  
Go Terps : 8/9/2018 7:54 pm : link
He was drafted by Reese. The other 3 QBs Reese drafted (Woodson, Bomar, Nassib) never amounted to anything or even showed improvement at the NFL level.
RE: RE: RE: 2-15 and you have Webb hand off?  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 7:54 pm : link
In comment 14033952 UberAlias said:
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In comment 14033940 RobCarpenter said:


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In comment 14033930 UberAlias said:


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Why? What is the point of that? Seriously, give the kid 2 downs to see if he can convert.



Because its preseason?

Um, yeah. Thats exactky why you see what he can do. How else are you going to evaluate the kid???


Because you want to evaluate the OL too?
RE: I  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 7:54 pm : link
In comment 14033970 AcidTest said:
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didn't realize Mauro is from England.


From St Albans, no less. We kind of want to move there.
Wtf!  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:55 pm : link
.....secondary sucks!
RE: Fells is on the Browns  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 7:55 pm : link
In comment 14033979 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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?


Not the same one who played here.
Mayfield  
UESBLUE : 8/9/2018 7:55 pm : link
making me recall posters here who said Webb was as good as any of the drafts QBs...
Baker looking pretty good.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 7:55 pm : link
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Mayfield looks really impressive to me  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:55 pm : link
good movement in the pocket, able to go through progressions. Definitely looks like he more than belongs, imo.
Typical  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:55 pm : link
BBI. Deciding Webb is a failure after two series in the first preseason game. I have said I don't think either Webb or Lauletta is the long term successor to Eli, but it's way too early to make that decision.
RE: Wtf!  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 7:55 pm : link
In comment 14033984 Simms11 said:
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.....secondary sucks!


It's the backups, lol
RE: RE: Wtf!  
DieHard : 8/9/2018 7:56 pm : link
In comment 14033991 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14033984 Simms11 said:


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.....secondary sucks!



It's the backups, lol


The backups to the backups at this point.
RE: Typical  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 7:56 pm : link
In comment 14033990 AcidTest said:
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BBI. Deciding Webb is a failure after two series in the first preseason game. I have said I don't think either Webb or Lauletta is the long term successor to Eli, but it's way too early to make that decision.


He failed tonight, nobody's saying he's done.

Theres a difference in speed  
Dave on the UWS : 8/9/2018 7:56 pm : link
Between practice and game action. For guys like Webb these snaps are really important.
Mayfield  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 7:56 pm : link
Looks pretty damned Mayfieldy.
RE: RE: Wtf!  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:56 pm : link
In comment 14033991 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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.....secondary sucks!



It's the backups, lol


So is Cleveland
Mayfield looks more composed  
NorwoodWideRight : 8/9/2018 7:57 pm : link
Than Eli did a that's for sure.
Mayfield looks a lot like Doug Flutie  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:57 pm : link
to me
Who the fuck is AJ Francis?  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 7:58 pm : link
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RE: RE: Typical  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 7:58 pm : link
In comment 14033993 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14033990 AcidTest said:


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BBI. Deciding Webb is a failure after two series in the first preseason game. I have said I don't think either Webb or Lauletta is the long term successor to Eli, but it's way too early to make that decision.



He failed tonight, nobody's saying he's done.


The night isn't over, and a lot of posters have already said he's done.
well, at least the coverage was better on that one  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 7:58 pm : link
the bad news is that the contain wasn't around.

Hold em on this third!
Giants need to get their arms up....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 7:58 pm : link
Mayfield is short
RE: Mayfield looks more composed  
BlueHurricane : 8/9/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 14033997 NorwoodWideRight said:
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Than Eli did a that's for sure.


Resident douchebag is a role you excel at.
Not even halftime and people are drawing sweeping conclusions  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 7:59 pm : link
LOL.

I love BBI.
RE: Typical  
Go Terps : 8/9/2018 7:59 pm : link
In comment 14033990 AcidTest said:
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BBI. Deciding Webb is a failure after two series in the first preseason game. I have said I don't think either Webb or Lauletta is the long term successor to Eli, but it's way too early to make that decision.


It isn't two series in a preseason game. It goes back to college.

Now I'm not a huge Mayfield guy, but watch him throw the ball compared to Webb. With Mayfield there is no wasted motion, and his feet are active. Compare that with Webb, whose feet are static and whose arm has a looping motion in his delivery.

Not in the same class. One guy has the physical body control needed and the other does not.
RE: RE: Typical  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 8:00 pm : link
In comment 14033993 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14033990 AcidTest said:


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BBI. Deciding Webb is a failure after two series in the first preseason game. I have said I don't think either Webb or Lauletta is the long term successor to Eli, but it's way too early to make that decision.



He failed tonight, nobody's saying he's done.


Yup, exactly. We all hoped to see some progress, haven't seen any so far. Oh well

Mayfield making our backup D look bad
Clearly,  
CT Charlie : 8/9/2018 8:00 pm : link
Mayfield's too short.
Mayfield converts 4th and short  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:00 pm : link
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come on  
Jay on the Island : 8/9/2018 8:00 pm : link
that was so predictable!
...  
christian : 8/9/2018 8:01 pm : link
Watching a QB make a play with his legs is so foreign to me. For real.
Mayfield TD Pass to Njoku.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:01 pm : link
.
Wynn  
Toth029 : 8/9/2018 8:01 pm : link
Is active but he's so slow.
sigh...  
UESBLUE : 8/9/2018 8:01 pm : link
6-10?
RE: RE: RE: Typical  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:01 pm : link
In comment 14034001 AcidTest said:
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In comment 14033993 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 14033990 AcidTest said:


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BBI. Deciding Webb is a failure after two series in the first preseason game. I have said I don't think either Webb or Lauletta is the long term successor to Eli, but it's way too early to make that decision.



He failed tonight, nobody's saying he's done.




The night isn't over, and a lot of posters have already said he's done.


It's not gonna mean a whole lot if he suddenly looks much better when he's playing 3rd and 4th teamers.

Especially when Mayfield is playing circles around him as a true rookie.
Mayfield looks like the real deal  
montanagiant : 8/9/2018 8:01 pm : link
Impressive so far
Sounding like a broke record  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 8:01 pm : link
(And, full disclosure, I've been a Sooners' fan ever since I jumped on the Jamelle Hollieway team bandwagon when I saw them live in Lincoln against Nebraska), but Mayfield was the right choice at No. 1 -- he's the goods.
We  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:02 pm : link
should have been able to knock that down, but Mayfield looks good.
RE: Mayfield looks like the real deal  
EricJ : 8/9/2018 8:02 pm : link
In comment 14034016 montanagiant said:
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Impressive so far


absolutely...
he looks so comfortable back there too.
RE: Not even halftime and people are drawing sweeping conclusions  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 8:02 pm : link
In comment 14034005 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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LOL.

I love BBI.


Well to be fair, people who have been worried about the Giants based on poor preseason play have had their worries validated often over the past 6 years or so.
Cleveland will be a better team this year  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:02 pm : link
They definitely have improved talent, but Giants Pass D not looking good, both starters and depth.
Not the best look for start of Pat Shurmur era  
UberAlias : 8/9/2018 8:03 pm : link
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I'd take Mayfield over Eli.  
NorwoodWideRight : 8/9/2018 8:03 pm : link
What an embarrassment.
Mayfield....  
Giant John : 8/9/2018 8:03 pm : link
And it Id the Giants defense but maybe Clevelands QB issues are in the rear view mirror?
How bad is our 2nd string OL  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 8:03 pm : link
They get dominated everyday against the 2s and our 2s just got dickpunched.
RE: I'd take Mayfield over Eli.  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 8:03 pm : link
In comment 14034024 NorwoodWideRight said:
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What an embarrassment.


Your posting is an embarrassment.
Were going to hear all week now  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:04 pm : link
how well Baker Mayfield played in his first NFL game! Ugh
...  
Dodge : 8/9/2018 8:04 pm : link
I would still have drafted Mayfield over Barkley. But Mayfield wasn't available!

Sadface
Davis Webb is one of the most important guys in the organization.  
bceagle05 : 8/9/2018 8:04 pm : link
If we're gonna go gaga over Barkley and Hernandez in preseason games, we can be critical of him. Wait til Darnold throws a couple of TDs tomorrow night.
Sorry if this was already mentioned...  
Mike in St. Louis : 8/9/2018 8:04 pm : link
But isn't the game supposed to be on NFLN?
The poisonous roots left behind by Reese......  
thrunthrublue : 8/9/2018 8:04 pm : link
Apple, Flowers.....and Webb.
Mayfield  
slickwilly : 8/9/2018 8:04 pm : link
Is playing well. He will be a player in the league, to what level I'm still not sure.
RE: RE: RE: I was expecting -some- sort of positive move forward  
Bill L : 8/9/2018 8:05 pm : link
In comment 14033967 NorwoodWideRight said:
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In comment 14033953 BestFeature said:


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In comment 14033950 NorwoodWideRight said:


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From last year's shit show. Sadly, I see none.



Are you fucking serious? It's a quarter of preseason play.



Yeah, I'm fucking serious. I don't care if it's the first play from scrimmage in the first pre-season game. There should be -some- improvement. Aside from the Barkley run, nada.
That makes no sense. The first play from scrimmage in the preseason *was* the Barkley run.
Seeing the Browns go for 2  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/9/2018 8:05 pm : link
makes me hope the Giants would be more aggressive that way. The Eagles built confidence being aggressive last year.
Looks like another year of  
fivehead : 8/9/2018 8:05 pm : link
the same 'ol Giants football.

I predict 5-11.
Holy overreaction Batman  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 8:05 pm : link
Its the preseason. I just dont want injuries. Newsflash, Giants scrubs suck.
Sorry  
Giant John : 8/9/2018 8:05 pm : link
And it is the Giants defense. Sorry for typo.
Idk if  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:05 pm : link
Some of u guys are aware that this is preseason. Calm down
0 for 5  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
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Holy shitWebb!  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
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RE: RE: Typical  
Danny Kanell : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
In comment 14034006 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14033990 AcidTest said:


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BBI. Deciding Webb is a failure after two series in the first preseason game. I have said I don't think either Webb or Lauletta is the long term successor to Eli, but it's way too early to make that decision.



It isn't two series in a preseason game. It goes back to college.

Now I'm not a huge Mayfield guy, but watch him throw the ball compared to Webb. With Mayfield there is no wasted motion, and his feet are active. Compare that with Webb, whose feet are static and whose arm has a looping motion in his delivery.

Not in the same class. One guy has the physical body control needed and the other does not.


Agree on Webb. He looks like a poor mans Kerry Collins.
Webb off again.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
Come on Davis.
Webb  
bubba0825 : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
Nearly got out wr killed
But Webb looks bad  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
Id like to see Lauletta.
Looks like we can get a shot at a QB  
Giant John : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
Next year.
Only thing I'm concerned about now is Webb  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
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RE: Mayfield looks like the real deal  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
In comment 14034016 montanagiant said:
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Impressive so far


Hes playing against the second and third string defense.
Hasnt made a good throw yet  
Sec 103 : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
....
RE: Davis Webb is one of the most important guys in the organization.  
Go Terps : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
In comment 14034031 bceagle05 said:
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If we're gonna go gaga over Barkley and Hernandez in preseason games, we can be critical of him. Wait til Darnold throws a couple of TDs tomorrow night.


I don't think Webb is the backup long. Fingers crossed that Lauletta shows something, and does so quickly enough to bump Webb down the depth chart.
It's almost like a Davis Webb blooper reel at this point.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
Yikes.
Webb can use a Bronx cheer  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
.
Even that 1st down pass was  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
High.
Holy crap Webb almost threw that  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
Away
Gallmam  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
Bails our Webb.
If you can sit there and be happy with the Giants  
NorwoodWideRight : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
first two series, I don't know what to tell you, other than you're a hopeless homer.
Well  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
So far I'm not exactly inspired to switch to DirecTV for NFL Sunday Ticket.
Webb  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
Isnt looking good though
RE: How bad is our 2nd string OL  
EricJ : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
In comment 14034027 dep026 said:
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They get dominated everyday against the 2s and our 2s just got dickpunched.


how good can they be Dep? We are talking about a starting OL where we are crossing our fingers that they can be average this year. What can we expect from the guys who were not able to start on this team?
RE: Holy overreaction Batman  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
In comment 14034038 RobCarpenter said:
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Its the preseason. I just dont want injuries. Newsflash, Giants scrubs suck.


I agree but the starting defense did get slapped around by Tyrod Taylor/Baker Mayfield and the Browns
He locks on to  
slickwilly : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
One receiver every play. That spells disaster.
Baker Mayfield  
M.S. : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
Doesn't look like a rookie back there.

Reminds me the way he looked in Norman, cool, collected and TOTALLY in control.
RE: Hasnt made a good throw yet  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
In comment 14034050 Sec 103 said:
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Almost got Raymond killed over the middle.
There you go Webb  
montanagiant : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
Starting to get his feet under him
Gallman  
Rong5611 : 8/9/2018 8:07 pm : link
Looks good
Gallman with a nice play there  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 8:08 pm : link
Webb starting to percolate on the short stuff?
Webb  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2018 8:08 pm : link
Just needs to settle down. He is too amped up.
I like Gallman.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:08 pm : link
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RE: Even that 1st down pass was  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 8:08 pm : link
In comment 14034055 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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High.


Yup he just looks way too amped up. Jittery and every throw high. That's why he needs these reps
Second batted ball at the line.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:08 pm : link
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OL  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 8:09 pm : link
is giving him time too.
RE: RE: Holy overreaction Batman  
slickwilly : 8/9/2018 8:09 pm : link
In comment 14034062 Aqua Giants said:
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In comment 14034038 RobCarpenter said:


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Its the preseason. I just dont want injuries. Newsflash, Giants scrubs suck.



I agree but the starting defense did get slapped around by Tyrod Taylor/Baker Mayfield and the Browns


The first team D shut down Mayfield. What are you talking about?
Gallman a tough sob  
crick n NC : 8/9/2018 8:09 pm : link
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RE: I like Gallman.  
Sammo85 : 8/9/2018 8:09 pm : link
In comment 14034071 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I do too. Highly underrated talent and a big time depth guy we will need during the season with a rookie RB and aging veteran in
Stewart.
RE: RE: Holy overreaction Batman  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14034062 Aqua Giants said:
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In comment 14034038 RobCarpenter said:


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Its the preseason. I just dont want injuries. Newsflash, Giants scrubs suck.



I agree but the starting defense did get slapped around by Tyrod Taylor/Baker Mayfield and the Browns


No it didnt. The starting D wasnt in there vs Mayfield.
Simmons?  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:10 pm : link
?
He doesn't look amped up  
Go Terps : 8/9/2018 8:10 pm : link
He looks slow and mechanically lazy.
He  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:10 pm : link
does look to excited. I agree right now he looks like a poorer version of Kerry Collins, but let's see what happens.
Webb couldn't hit water  
David B. : 8/9/2018 8:10 pm : link
if he fell out of a boat.

And Sharp couldn't catch a cold naked in Antartica.

Let's hope they both settle down a bit.
That was last year's OL.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:10 pm : link
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RE: Looks like we can get a shot at a QB  
The_Boss : 8/9/2018 8:11 pm : link
In comment 14034047 Giant John said:
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Next year.


In a weak QB draft? No.
That train left the station.
Greg Williams  
crick n NC : 8/9/2018 8:11 pm : link
Is sensei Kreese
When he threw the TD that is  
RobCarpenter : 8/9/2018 8:11 pm : link
.
Oline  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:11 pm : link
Is garbage in there right now
He  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:11 pm : link
looks like he's steering passes, instead of throwing naturally.
Wow  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 8:11 pm : link
That OL thats in there now is terrible
Teddy Bridge  
UESBLUE : 8/9/2018 8:11 pm : link
is available I hear...
Oh my apologies  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 8:11 pm : link
...
Gallman is the only guy that looks like he doesn't  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:12 pm : link
Belong this far down on the depth chart, lol.
If Lewis isn't going to down that ball  
adamg : 8/9/2018 8:12 pm : link
He can leave
Gallman better see the field more than  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 8:12 pm : link
Stewart.
Another one of Reese's boyfriends  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 8:12 pm : link
Davis Webb
Miscues in all phases.....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:12 pm : link
thats to be expected, however Cleveland just looks a bit more composed.
Team's a hot mess.  
NorwoodWideRight : 8/9/2018 8:13 pm : link
Glad we took a step forward fixing the shit that was wrong with it.
RE: Webb couldn't hit water  
SomeFan : 8/9/2018 8:13 pm : link
In comment 14034087 David B. said:
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if he fell out of a boat.

And Sharp couldn't catch a cold naked in Antartica.

Let's hope they both settle down a bit.


Granted that it is pre-season but the criticism of Webb was that he is a very inaccurate passer past 10 yards. I would have hoped he would flash tonight at a minimum. Those criticisms may be correct. I see a lot of Dave Brown.
We're  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:14 pm : link
going to be using our #2 waiver wire claim quite a bit, including for OL and CB. Who besides Jones is safe as a backup OL?
WIP  
crick n NC : 8/9/2018 8:14 pm : link
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RE: If Lewis isn't going to down that ball  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2018 8:14 pm : link
In comment 14034098 adamg said:
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He can leave
I think that is more likely than not.
They let that receiver Higgins push off an awful lot  
adamg : 8/9/2018 8:14 pm : link
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Lol  
bLiTz 2k : 8/9/2018 8:14 pm : link
Can always guarantee to find hysteria on BBI during the first preseason game.
That  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:15 pm : link
was terrific play by Mayfield to avoid the blitz, and still make an accurate throw.
RE: Another one of Reese's boyfriends  
EricJ : 8/9/2018 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14034100 Aqua Giants said:
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Davis Webb


Hold on a second. It was Dave G and Pat S who made the decision that this team did not need to draft Eli's eventual replacement because that guy was already on the roster. OR... was that BBI who invented that story?
Dave Brown had a 10 year career  
Go Terps : 8/9/2018 8:15 pm : link
Webb doesn't look like a guy that can (or should) stick around that long.
RE: We're  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:16 pm : link
In comment 14034105 AcidTest said:
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going to be using our #2 waiver wire claim quite a bit, including for OL and CB. Who besides Jones is safe as a backup OL?


Jones can play C or G in a pinch, but they're boned if they lose any tackles.
Webb  
Sammo85 : 8/9/2018 8:16 pm : link
looked shaky and not composed. Mechanics, timing, footwork, body motion all looked out of synch.
RE: They let that receiver Higgins push off an awful lot  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:16 pm : link
In comment 14034108 adamg said:
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Glad I wasnt the only one who noticed
Houston  
Carl in CT : 8/9/2018 8:16 pm : link
We have holes. CB, OL, and #2 QB. All obvious. But its pressing so dont jump off the bridge just yet.
Shouldve  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:17 pm : link
Been grounding
Not hysetria  
NewBlue : 8/9/2018 8:17 pm : link
Just a familiar reminder of recurring breakdowns...OL.....DB's...back=up QB play
Webb  
quaseem1 : 8/9/2018 8:17 pm : link
STINKS if he is the heir apparent to replace Eli...... geesh it will be a long long long time before we sniff another SB trophy ........ i'm just saying
Alot of flags in this first half for both teams.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:17 pm : link
.
Here's  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:17 pm : link
a chance for Webb to salvage something from a poor first half.
RE: RE: We're  
Sammo85 : 8/9/2018 8:17 pm : link
In comment 14034113 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14034105 AcidTest said:


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going to be using our #2 waiver wire claim quite a bit, including for OL and CB. Who besides Jones is safe as a backup OL?



Jones can play C or G in a pinch, but they're boned if they lose any tackles.


So are most NFL teams with decent QBs.
Two Minute Drill for Webb  
Rong5611 : 8/9/2018 8:17 pm : link
Lets see if he can show us something positive.
Prediction:  
NorwoodWideRight : 8/9/2018 8:18 pm : link
Barkley will be the new Tiki editing the next 8-10 years of losing seasons.
well at least  
UESBLUE : 8/9/2018 8:18 pm : link
weve been protecting The Duke
RE: RE: RE: We're  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:18 pm : link
In comment 14034123 Sammo85 said:
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going to be using our #2 waiver wire claim quite a bit, including for OL and CB. Who besides Jones is safe as a backup OL?



Jones can play C or G in a pinch, but they're boned if they lose any tackles.



So are most NFL teams with decent QBs.


Eh, Philly won a super bowl with a backup QB and LT.
RE: RE: Another one of Reese's boyfriends  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 8:18 pm : link
In comment 14034111 EricJ said:
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In comment 14034100 Aqua Giants said:


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Davis Webb



Hold on a second. It was Dave G and Pat S who made the decision that this team did not need to draft Eli's eventual replacement because that guy was already on the roster. OR... was that BBI who invented that story?


BBI invented that story. Giants decided none of the top guys were worth the #2 pick. They did draft another QB.

Cmon Webb...  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 8:19 pm : link
Put a drive together here.

Love you Saquan!
RE: Dave Brown had a 10 year career  
Sammo85 : 8/9/2018 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14034112 Go Terps said:
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Webb doesn't look like a guy that can (or should) stick around that long.


It was pretty telling that they went ahead and took Lauletta in the 4th. That wasnt just a value pick. The new regime really likes him.
0-16 team and rookie QB  
ZogZerg : 8/9/2018 8:19 pm : link
Taking it to Giants.
Wow!
RE: RE: Another one of Reese's boyfriends  
Diver_Down : 8/9/2018 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14034111 EricJ said:
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In comment 14034100 Aqua Giants said:


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Davis Webb



Hold on a second. It was Dave G and Pat S who made the decision that this team did not need to draft Eli's eventual replacement because that guy was already on the roster. OR... was that BBI who invented that story?


BBI invented that reasoning. Dave and Pat have been consistent in stating that they believe Eli has years left. Quite literally, Eli only has this year and next year on his contract. BBI's collective head will explode if Dave extends Eli to coincide with their stated belief.
RE: RE: RE: Another one of Reese's boyfriends  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14034128 mfsd said:
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In comment 14034100 Aqua Giants said:


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Davis Webb



Hold on a second. It was Dave G and Pat S who made the decision that this team did not need to draft Eli's eventual replacement because that guy was already on the roster. OR... was that BBI who invented that story?



BBI invented that story. Giants decided none of the top guys were worth the #2 pick. They did draft another QB.


Agreed.
RE: Cmon Webb...  
Sammo85 : 8/9/2018 8:20 pm : link
In comment 14034129 Britt in VA said:
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Put a drive together here.

Love you Saquan!


Its Saquon.
RE: RE: We're  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 8:20 pm : link
In comment 14034113 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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going to be using our #2 waiver wire claim quite a bit, including for OL and CB. Who besides Jones is safe as a backup OL?



Jones can play C or G in a pinch, but they're boned if they lose any tackles.

Grecos a decent backup also at G or C.
Webb just needs to get some composure.....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:20 pm : link
this is the longest hes played in an NFL game yet. He hyped himself up all week. Im sure he just wants to do well. He just does not look composed. His mechanics are not in synch and hes kind of rushing throws and forcing things. Hes played well so far in practice, from all reports, but has to gather himself now.
Is it Kyle Lauletta time yet?  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 8:20 pm : link
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O man  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:21 pm : link
I feel bad for Webb right now
RE: RE: RE: RE: We're  
Sammo85 : 8/9/2018 8:21 pm : link
In comment 14034127 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14034113 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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going to be using our #2 waiver wire claim quite a bit, including for OL and CB. Who besides Jones is safe as a backup OL?



Jones can play C or G in a pinch, but they're boned if they lose any tackles.



So are most NFL teams with decent QBs.



Eh, Philly won a super bowl with a backup QB and LT.


Theyre an anomaly in the history of the last 25 years or so.
Webb  
Mr. Nickels : 8/9/2018 8:21 pm : link
sucks
He looks at one receiver  
slickwilly : 8/9/2018 8:21 pm : link
Every play. Every single play.
Webb looks awful  
Sean : 8/9/2018 8:21 pm : link
.
Jesus.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 8:21 pm : link
Webb looks God awful tonight.
Webb is absolutely  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 8/9/2018 8:21 pm : link
Brutal. He is missing everyone by a mile.
This  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:21 pm : link
Is brutal
Uh,  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:21 pm : link
has Webb been practicing at all this Summer...?
Lauletta  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
was a fourth round pick. Every team passed on him multiple times.

Webb is a mess right now. Completely inaccurate.
A hearty 3/13 passing night.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
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Looking good, Davis.  
bceagle05 : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
Great work.
That pass was on Adams  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
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well I guess Webb is exposed  
mdc1 : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
as many may worried about. BAD.
Now  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
That should have been caught by Adams.
Well, that 15 second 3 and out  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
caps an absolutely brutal first showing for webb
Not encouraging showing  
UberAlias : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
From QBs.
RE: He looks at one receiver  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
In comment 14034144 slickwilly said:
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Every play. Every single play.


Maybe he needs glasses cause his throws are nowhere near them
Webb sucks  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
If that wasnt clear by now.
Still, not a good throw yet  
Sec 103 : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
!
RE: A hearty 3/13 passing night.  
EricJ : 8/9/2018 8:22 pm : link
In comment 14034151 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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...and guys were open too.
Rumbling on Game Giants telecast  
yalebowl : 8/9/2018 8:23 pm : link
Am I the only one not liking all the rumbling between plays on the telecast?
RE: Webb looks awful  
mdc1 : 8/9/2018 8:23 pm : link
In comment 14034145 Sean said:
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that's the plan. No competition for Eli. Eli sells mortgage the future.
I would have given Webb some time behind the 1st string OL  
David B. : 8/9/2018 8:23 pm : link
But in his first 2 series' he was missing wide open guys with no one near him.
Punting game has been strong  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 8:23 pm : link
run defense and punting unit were both looking good tonight.
Really  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:23 pm : link
Need Lauretta to show something
Can Webb dial it down a bit  
Jimmy Googs : 8/9/2018 8:24 pm : link
and bring the ball down a little. Every throw high and hard...
Supposedly Webb's one of the first guys in to work everyone morning.  
bceagle05 : 8/9/2018 8:24 pm : link
He should set the alarm a little earlier.
No OBJ tonight  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/9/2018 8:24 pm : link
and we already knew the bottom half of the roster was suspect
The positives:  
Bergen346 : 8/9/2018 8:24 pm : link
- 1st team defense played heavy handed against the run

- 1st team offense protected the duke - no TDs but no turnovers

- Teamers looking OK. Punting seems to be an upgrade over last year.

The negatives:
Too long to list. Bring back DRC.
The good news  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 8:24 pm : link
Is that his binder collection is going to grow considerably from the negative notes from this experience.
Brutal showing by Webb  
Sammo85 : 8/9/2018 8:24 pm : link
Not doing himself any favors. Hell get a good shot next two weeks but hes not going to e instilling any confidence in being a backup even right now never mind some kind of future for us.
I will be honest Saquon could have had 100 yards in this game  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 8:25 pm : link
and I'd be a bit concerned about the fact that we don't have a future starting QB on this roster (unless it's Lauletta). There's no guarantee that Darnold or anyone will be great but damn Webb is making me nervous.
Webb  
nicky43 : 8/9/2018 8:25 pm : link
He need to settle down. He's over throwing everything. Not impressed at all.


Barkley is going to be fun to watch. I hope the o-line gets it together this year.

Looks like we need to find some players that can defend the pass or it's going to be a long season.
Ugh  
Rong5611 : 8/9/2018 8:25 pm : link
Webb looks awful. We may not have a #2 on the roster.
Two of his throws should have been caught  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2018 8:25 pm : link
Not that he otherwise would have been good but receivers need to catch the ball. Its way too early to give up in him.
Webb is a mess, period  
Go Terps : 8/9/2018 8:25 pm : link
Go back and watch his college clips. Same thing. This isn't about composure or being amped up. This might work in the Pac-10 but not in the NFL.

There's a couple things we know about the Giants under Reese:

1. They put a lot of draft value in size/speed guys (Webb looks the part)

2. They had no success drafting a QB

If Webb turns into something it will buck a lot of trends. If I'm Gettleman I'm keeping an eye on the waiver wire this preseason to get a guy that fits what Shurmur is trying to do. Webb ain't it.
RE: Supposedly Webb's one of the first guys in to work everyone morning.  
bLiTz 2k : 8/9/2018 8:25 pm : link
In comment 14034169 bceagle05 said:
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He should set the alarm a little earlier.


not gonna lie, this literally made me LOL.
Well, there goes all that off season optimism......  
Dry Lightning : 8/9/2018 8:26 pm : link
Eli: No improvement
Webb: 50/50 chance he is waived before the fourth quarter
Barkley: Good so far
O-Line: Marginally better
Defense: Looks better
RE: Alot of flags in this first half for both teams.  
EricJ : 8/9/2018 8:26 pm : link
In comment 14034121 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Our starting offense could not do anything either. We had ONE run from Barkley and then a fortunate unsportsmanlike flag to extend our opening drive which was dead. That's it.
Are the Giants headed to QB hell?  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:26 pm : link
Not after one pre-season game IMO. Lets give Webb a break. Let him get some pre-season in before calling him a failure.
Webb was drafted by the prior regime..  
Sean : 8/9/2018 8:26 pm : link
Not doing himself any favors.
When Davis Webb was drafted, I thought it was a wasted pick.  
Ira : 8/9/2018 8:26 pm : link
Listening to all the preseason hype, it seemed I might have been wrong. Now I'm back to thinking it was a wasted pick.
Something I heard Webb say  
mittenedman : 8/9/2018 8:26 pm : link
at a youth football camp stuck with me: he was telling the QBs to aim for the receivers noses when throwing.

Ive never heard that - Ive always heard aim chest high - right between the numbers. He is missing high.
I'm a big fan of Webb, mainly because he  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 8:26 pm : link
Comes across as a football diehard.

But he's looked awful tonight. No way around it.
...  
christian : 8/9/2018 8:26 pm : link
I think when reviewing the tape Wheeler will look very bad.

He's nowhere near starting level right now.
Paul Dottino probably saying  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 8:27 pm : link
Man, that Webb is lighting it up.
Nice play!  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 8:27 pm : link
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Nice play by L Johnson.......  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:27 pm : link
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RE: RE: Another one of Reese's boyfriends  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 8:27 pm : link
In comment 14034111 EricJ said:
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In comment 14034100 Aqua Giants said:


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Davis Webb



Hold on a second. It was Dave G and Pat S who made the decision that this team did not need to draft Eli's eventual replacement because that guy was already on the roster. OR... was that BBI who invented that story?


Huh? the joke was it was another one of Reese's fathead draft picks?
Johnson!  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/9/2018 8:27 pm : link
nice play
Webb's issue was always accuracy  
David B. : 8/9/2018 8:28 pm : link
He didn't have a lot. He has everything else physically. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Lauletta (who IS accurate) passes him by next season.

RE: The positives:  
EricJ : 8/9/2018 8:28 pm : link
In comment 14034171 Bergen346 said:
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- 1st team offense protected the duke - no TDs but no turnovers


WTF were you watching? Eli could have taken a knee on every play and the ball would be protected. The first team offense was horrible.
It's a bit early to panic ---  
GeofromNJ : 8/9/2018 8:28 pm : link
the Browns won all four preseason games last year, including a 25-0 shutout of the Bears.
Webb  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:28 pm : link
was a spread offense QB in college. 60-65% of this throws were within 10 yards of the LOS. We he threw deep it was a lot of sideline "rail" throws, many to Henson, who is now with the Jets. He wasn't required to make a lot of reads and throws at the second and third levels. The question was whether he could learn to do so in the NFL.

Nice play by Johnson.
RE: Supposedly Webb's one of the first guys in to work everyone morning.  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 8:28 pm : link
In comment 14034169 bceagle05 said:
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He should set the alarm a little earlier.


I like what we read about his work ethic - but I almost wonder if he needs to go out one night, get drunk, get laid, and sleep through his alarm for a change.

Its not lack of preparation with him, just seems like nerves/jitters. Whatever the reason, his timing and accuracy is way off tonight

Oh well. Giants look like shit in the preseason. What else is new
ok Webb  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 8:28 pm : link
Get something goig
RE: RE: RE: Another one of Reese's boyfriends  
EricJ : 8/9/2018 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14034194 Aqua Giants said:
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In comment 14034111 EricJ said:


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In comment 14034100 Aqua Giants said:


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Davis Webb



Hold on a second. It was Dave G and Pat S who made the decision that this team did not need to draft Eli's eventual replacement because that guy was already on the roster. OR... was that BBI who invented that story?



Huh? the joke was it was another one of Reese's fathead draft picks?


yeah and my point was that nobody forced this group of leaders to go into this season with Webb as our backup and heir apparent.
lol  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 8:29 pm : link
Jerell Adams is still on this team?
Great play by Johnson.  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 8:29 pm : link
.
Leonard  
Toth029 : 8/9/2018 8:29 pm : link
Johnson and BW Webb have looked pretty decent.
RE: When Davis Webb was drafted, I thought it was a wasted pick.  
nicky43 : 8/9/2018 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14034186 Ira said:
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Listening to all the preseason hype, it seemed I might have been wrong. Now I'm back to thinking it was a wasted pick.


I thought it was a wasted pick too. Now we know we were correct!
Good thing we  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 8/9/2018 8:29 pm : link
don't overreact around here, that would make this experience even more unbearable.
EricJ  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
But why would they give up on the guy?

I mean now we clearly know
Webb seems to think  
David B. : 8/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
all the WRs are 8 feet tall.
Gallman nice blocking  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
.
Webb finally looking somewhat decent  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
watch him throw a pick now
Look this wasnt the guy  
Dave on the UWS : 8/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
I saw in practice last Thur. Hes flat footed not using his lower body. He has to fight his way through this. He can play lets see what kind of guts he has
Becton  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
How has he looked?
Gallman  
Rong5611 : 8/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
Having a good night, nice blitz pick up.
RE: Webb's issue was always accuracy  
EricJ : 8/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 14034196 David B. said:
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He didn't have a lot. He has everything else physically. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Lauletta (who IS accurate) passes him by next season.


Interesting... so glad accuracy is not important at the QB position.
RE: Paul Dottino probably saying  
Mr. Bungle : 8/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 14034191 jeff57 said:
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Man, that Webb is lighting it up.

Hahahaha
Holy  
Jon in NYC : 8/9/2018 8:31 pm : link
fuck, Davis Webb stinks.
Yeah, his comfort zone is clearly throws inside 10 yards  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:31 pm : link
The problem is how horrid he looked when trying to read the field and then execute the throw.
Damn it  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:31 pm : link
Enhhhhh
RE: Good thing we  
Aqua Giants : 8/9/2018 8:31 pm : link
In comment 14034209 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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don't overreact around here, that would make this experience even more unbearable.


What to do then? Watch the game and NOT react? I'm not understanding your rationale here
Another overthrow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:31 pm : link
Had a TD.
Browns playing soft zone  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 8:31 pm : link
Webb misses Raymond for a TD threw it to wrong shoulder.
Webb  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:31 pm : link
Should have 2 tds
Didn't get them to the line fast enough  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 8:32 pm : link
Missed a TD before that
I  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:32 pm : link
thought Webb was a decent gamble because of his physical attributes. We also thought the Giants would be good enough to not be in a position to draft Darnold, Rosen, or Allen. But many teams of course also passed on Webb several times.
How do they let the clock run out?  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 8:32 pm : link
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Terrible decision by webb  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 8:32 pm : link
Lets see lauletta.
Webb looked much more composed that  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 8:32 pm : link
Final drive. Baby steps.
Brutal time management  
Sean : 8/9/2018 8:32 pm : link
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RE: Webb  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:32 pm : link
In comment 14034227 cokeduplt said:
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Should have 2 tds


To who? The turf?
I suppose the Giants didnt care to take. FG  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:32 pm : link
there, because if they were, it was terrible time management with no TOs left
Wide open td  
Jimmy Googs : 8/9/2018 8:33 pm : link
and he threw to the wrong side...
RE: Gallman  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 8:33 pm : link
In comment 14034218 Rong5611 said:
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Having a good night, nice blitz pick up.


And another one. He should be winning the #2 RB job tonight
RE: RE: Webb  
Mr. Bungle : 8/9/2018 8:33 pm : link
In comment 14034235 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Should have 2 tds



To who? The turf?

Hahahahaha. Some good stuff on this thread.
Webb was a little better on the last dirve  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/9/2018 8:34 pm : link
considering this confidence took a terrible beating that half.
RE: RE: RE: Webb  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:34 pm : link
In comment 14034241 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 14034235 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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In comment 14034227 cokeduplt said:


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Should have 2 tds



To who? The turf?


Hahahahaha. Some good stuff on this thread.



Guys were wide open twice and he missed them.
RE: EricJ  
EricJ : 8/9/2018 8:35 pm : link
In comment 14034211 Aqua Giants said:
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But why would they give up on the guy?

I mean now we clearly know


My point going into the draft was that they COULDN'T know because Webb never even got to practice with the first team last year. So, if you had no idea WTF you had in the guy, then how do you move ahead with him as your true #2? They needed a proven guy as an insurance policy in the event that Eli missed some time.
Looks like  
Jay in Toronto : 8/9/2018 8:35 pm : link
He threw where Khalif was going (corner) and then Khalif turned his head inside.

Wider what the route was.
Its the first half of the first pre-season game  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 8:35 pm : link
It doesn't mean much
i think webb  
big_blue : 8/9/2018 8:35 pm : link
is making some right reads - sans the throw to ellison - but he is wound up and throwing high. needs to get the nerves out - this shit performance will be good for him in the long run.
...  
christian : 8/9/2018 8:35 pm : link
This team has dire depth issues.

The 2nd team offensive line frightening, the depth at WR is non-existent.
Wonder  
Jay in Toronto : 8/9/2018 8:36 pm : link
What the route was
RE: Wide open td  
Rong5611 : 8/9/2018 8:36 pm : link

Agree, at first I thought it was the WR...no, bad throw.

n comment 14034237 Jimmy Googs said:
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and he threw to the wrong side...
Is he finally settling down?  
David B. : 8/9/2018 8:36 pm : link
Lets hope so.
...  
BleedBlue : 8/9/2018 8:37 pm : link
guys please breathe...he threw only 34 times last preseason....this is his first action in game in a WHILE plus as mentioned he didnt get a good amount of time last preseason. give him some time. not saying he works out, but this is such a SMALL sample its insane
Loved Gallman at Clemson.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 8:37 pm : link
Dude needs to be Saquon's backup.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2018 8:37 pm : link
Beer seems to make things better.
RE: RE: Wide open td  
Jay in Toronto : 8/9/2018 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14034255 Rong5611 said:
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Agree, at first I thought it was the WR...no, bad throw.

n comment 14034237 Jimmy Googs said:


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and he threw to the wrong side...



How do you know?
RE: I  
jnoble : 8/9/2018 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14034230 AcidTest said:
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thought Webb was a decent gamble because of his physical attributes. We also thought the Giants would be good enough to not be in a position to draft Darnold, Rosen, or Allen. But many teams of course also passed on Webb several times.


It's the first half of the first preseason game for God's sake lol
RE: RE: Gallman  
Rong5611 : 8/9/2018 8:37 pm : link
Agree

In comment 14034238 mfsd said:
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In comment 14034218 Rong5611 said:


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Having a good night, nice blitz pick up.



And another one. He should be winning the #2 RB job tonight
RE: RE: EricJ  
Bill L : 8/9/2018 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14034246 EricJ said:
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In comment 14034211 Aqua Giants said:


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But why would they give up on the guy?

I mean now we clearly know



My point going into the draft was that they COULDN'T know because Webb never even got to practice with the first team last year. So, if you had no idea WTF you had in the guy, then how do you move ahead with him as your true #2? They needed a proven guy as an insurance policy in the event that Eli missed some time.
*Even* knowing this (if after an isolated couple of series in preseason you can tell anything) they *still* made the proper draft call. Nothing about Webb changes or would have changed anything about the draft.
Webb  
mdc1 : 8/9/2018 8:38 pm : link
there is reason he has no resume his job is to pretend to be Elis capable backup for 2-3 years knowing we will never find out what it really looks like
Webb  
mattyblue : 8/9/2018 8:39 pm : link
didnt look good, but Raymond looked foolish locating that ball. Eli and Webb you have to hope its rust.
The most unusual part of the first half was  
Jimmy Googs : 8/9/2018 8:40 pm : link
the opposing Tight End really took advantage of our defense, scoring twice.

That never happens...
.  
crick n NC : 8/9/2018 8:40 pm : link
I'm just here to see what the experts say.
I'm a Barkley fan and have high hopes for him  
David B. : 8/9/2018 8:40 pm : link
But seeing Rosen and Darnold highlights from their first preseason game is gonna hurt.
RE: The most unusual part of the first half was  
BleedBlue : 8/9/2018 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14034268 Jimmy Googs said:
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the opposing Tight End really took advantage of our defense, scoring twice.

That never happens...


LMFAO. second was against the twos but i still laughed lol
Pinch poke  
crick n NC : 8/9/2018 8:41 pm : link
You owe me a coke googs
RE: ...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/9/2018 8:41 pm : link
In comment 14034259 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
Beer seems to make things better.


Some of my college hookups were due to women looking better when a few deep.
RE: RE: RE: Wide open td  
Jimmy Googs : 8/9/2018 8:42 pm : link
In comment 14034260 Jay in Toronto said:
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In comment 14034255 Rong5611 said:


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Agree, at first I thought it was the WR...no, bad throw.

n comment 14034237 Jimmy Googs said:


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and he threw to the wrong side...





How do you know?


Im psychic...how the hell do you think I know?
Webb is way too amped  
AcesUp : 8/9/2018 8:43 pm : link
He barely saw action last preseason and didn't really get snaps in practice last year. After his first few reps you could tell that he was a little too excited, I think he'll look better 2nd half.
Im mostly interested in seeing the arrow is pointing up  
UberAlias : 8/9/2018 8:43 pm : link
Theres been a lot of hype and a lot of optimism this offseason. Maybe its warranted, maybe not. But this hasnt been an encouraging start.
RE: RE: The most unusual part of the first half was  
mdc1 : 8/9/2018 8:44 pm : link
In comment 14034273 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 14034268 Jimmy Googs said:


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the opposing Tight End really took advantage of our defense, scoring twice.

That never happens...



LMFAO. second was against the twos but i still laughed lol


team needs to find identity not visible yet
RE: I'm a Barkley fan and have high hopes for him  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 8:44 pm : link
In comment 14034272 David B. said:
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But seeing Rosen and Darnold highlights from their first preseason game is gonna hurt.


Havent seen/read much about Rosen yet, but sounds like Jets are pretty fired up about Darnold so far
RE: RE: Wide open td  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14034255 Rong5611 said:
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Agree, at first I thought it was the WR...no, bad throw.

n comment 14034237 Jimmy Googs said:


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and he threw to the wrong side...



It was weird because the WR was open, but he was getting too close to the sideline. So I think Webb threw it inside on purpose, trying to lead him back in. He couldn't hit him in stride because it would have been out of bounds. I'm guessing either the WR started the route too close to the sideline (and thus ran out of room), or Webb should have threw it earlier. Not sure which one.
RE: Pinch poke  
Jimmy Googs : 8/9/2018 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14034274 crick n NC said:
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You owe me a coke googs


What does that mean?
RE: RE: ...  
Diver_Down : 8/9/2018 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14034275 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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In comment 14034259 Eric from BBI said:


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Beer seems to make things better.



Some of my college hookups were due to women looking better when a few deep.


Balls or Beer?
RE: ...  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:46 pm : link
In comment 14034259 Eric from BBI said:
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Beer seems to make things better.


Does Webb look better after a few?! Haha
Why does Adams ride the RB there  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:47 pm : link
helped him to 2 more yards?
...  
christian : 8/9/2018 8:48 pm : link
A lot of looks with 4 down lineman.
Simms11  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2018 8:48 pm : link
It couldn't hurt. He needs to relax.
RE: RE: RE: Wide open td  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:49 pm : link
In comment 14034286 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 14034255 Rong5611 said:


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Agree, at first I thought it was the WR...no, bad throw.

n comment 14034237 Jimmy Googs said:


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and he threw to the wrong side...





It was weird because the WR was open, but he was getting too close to the sideline. So I think Webb threw it inside on purpose, trying to lead him back in. He couldn't hit him in stride because it would have been out of bounds. I'm guessing either the WR started the route too close to the sideline (and thus ran out of room), or Webb should have threw it earlier. Not sure which one.


Excellent analysis.
RE: Simms11  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14034294 Eric from BBI said:
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It couldn't hurt. He needs to relax.


Thats funny, but yea, he needs something to relax him. Hes just not composed and his mechanics are falling apart.
Lets remember it was Jerry Reese  
RottenApple : 8/9/2018 8:50 pm : link
who selected Webb in the 3rd round. Most of Jerrys 3rd round selections were bums.
One positive..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2018 8:50 pm : link
is the interior rush d has been excellent for all the strings so far
No way PP  
Jimmy Googs : 8/9/2018 8:51 pm : link
he just missed him. Even if the route was going another way, Webb had the corner lost in space and he should have just fired it right at the WR.

Look, Webb looks lost but I dont care. I want him firing away in preseason and learning the speed and nuances of the pro game. Keep throwing until you learn how to play QB.

Playing Eli is a waste of time...
RE: Webb is way too amped  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 8:51 pm : link
In comment 14034277 AcesUp said:
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He barely saw action last preseason and didn't really get snaps in practice last year. After his first few reps you could tell that he was a little too excited, I think he'll look better 2nd half.


Agreed. He could lay off the interviews for a bit, too, just my opinion.
Simmons taking a page out of  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:51 pm : link
SBs book......
RE: RE: RE: RE: Wide open td  
Jay in Toronto : 8/9/2018 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14034276 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 14034260 Jay in Toronto said:


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In comment 14034255 Rong5611 said:


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Agree, at first I thought it was the WR...no, bad throw.

n comment 14034237 Jimmy Googs said:


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and he threw to the wrong side...





How do you know?



Im psychic...how the hell do you think I know?


Hmm. So what will the final score be?
Nice run by Simmons.  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 8:52 pm : link
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Just like Eli,  
CT Charlie : 8/9/2018 8:52 pm : link
Webb will be fine.
RE: One positive..  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14034300 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is the interior rush d has been excellent for all the strings so far


Yup, thats one area we have strong starters and some decent depth
I dont know, I think that should have been caught  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:52 pm : link
although high
seems like all of Webb's throws sail  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/9/2018 8:52 pm : link
.
Webb  
liteamorn : 8/9/2018 8:52 pm : link
Must HATE Adams
Every throw is high  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 8:52 pm : link
Could be mechanics or just nerves
RE: RE: Good thing we  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 8/9/2018 8:53 pm : link
In comment 14034224 Aqua Giants said:
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In comment 14034209 LakeGeorgeGiant said:


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don't overreact around here, that would make this experience even more unbearable.



What to do then? Watch the game and NOT react? I'm not understanding your rationale here



You're not understanding that there is a difference between reacting and overreacting.

It's August.
DeOssie!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:53 pm : link
.
Brutal  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:53 pm : link
third down throw by Webb.
DeOssie still da man  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:53 pm : link
.
Gotta  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 8:53 pm : link
Love deossie
Quinn..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2018 8:53 pm : link
is a wizard!!
Good stuff by punt team again  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 8:53 pm : link
!
Webb not very impressive  
Rflairr : 8/9/2018 8:53 pm : link
Today. Jeesh
Come on, O, put it in here.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:53 pm : link
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RE: RE: One positive..  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14034311 mfsd said:
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In comment 14034300 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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is the interior rush d has been excellent for all the strings so far



Yup, thats one area we have strong starters and some decent depth


That is the strength of this defense.
Who is that weirdo  
nicky43 : 8/9/2018 8:54 pm : link
with the bleached blond hair and the jet black beard?
RE: Quinn..  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 8:54 pm : link
In comment 14034321 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is a wizard!!


We're back in business, baby! lol.
And  
dorgan : 8/9/2018 8:54 pm : link
Tom Quinn's crew comes through...
Good run by Webb there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:54 pm : link
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Maybe Webb should be our running back instead  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 8:54 pm : link
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Ok, maybe he needed that  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:54 pm : link
.
TD Simmons!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:55 pm : link
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RE: Quinn..  
BleedBlue : 8/9/2018 8:55 pm : link
In comment 14034321 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is a wizard!!



LMAO
Simmons  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:55 pm : link
looks a lot better than Stewart.
who is this Simmons?  
UESBLUE : 8/9/2018 8:55 pm : link
he looks good
Nice run Davis!  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 8:55 pm : link
should be 1st down.
I have to say our OL has looked pretty good tonight  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 8:55 pm : link
Both starters and backups. I can only remember one screw up, the blitz on Eli.
good job  
jpkmets : 8/9/2018 8:55 pm : link
converting on that fumble.

Exactly what ya gotta do there!
RE: I have to say our OL has looked pretty good tonight  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 8:56 pm : link
In comment 14034338 PatersonPlank said:
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Both starters and backups. I can only remember one screw up, the blitz on Eli.


If we're thinking of the same play, Stewart blew the protection there.
Cut  
XBRONX : 8/9/2018 8:56 pm : link
Stewart. Terrible waste of money.
Very nice.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:56 pm : link
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RE: Simmons  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 8:56 pm : link
In comment 14034335 AcidTest said:
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looks a lot better than Stewart.


Simmons might be playing himself onto the team
Simmons looking good on that drive  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:56 pm : link
So far Id be inclined to move Stewart down the depth chart to 4 and sliding both Gallman and Simmons up.
Simmons..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2018 8:56 pm : link
looks like he's shifty and very good.
Both  
Toth029 : 8/9/2018 8:57 pm : link
Simmons and Gallman look better than Stewart.
in preseason games  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/9/2018 8:57 pm : link
I don't understand why they don't go for 2. It is good short yardage and goal line practice.
Big hole by the line, there.  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 8:57 pm : link
.
RE: Quinn..  
Jimmy Googs : 8/9/2018 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14034321 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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is a wizard!!


I will quote you

LOL!
Simmons  
Rong5611 : 8/9/2018 8:57 pm : link
Looked good.
RE: Both  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14034346 Toth029 said:
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Simmons and Gallman look better than Stewart.


Agree.
Playing against backups too of course  
mfsd : 8/9/2018 8:58 pm : link
But one positive, our backup OL hasnt been nearly as awful as we would have expected based on camp so far
RE: RE: I have to say our OL has looked pretty good tonight  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14034340 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 14034338 PatersonPlank said:


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Both starters and backups. I can only remember one screw up, the blitz on Eli.



If we're thinking of the same play, Stewart blew the protection there.


Yes thats right, I forgot. So it wasn't on the Oline
I don't think it's Webb "being too amped"  
ajr2456 : 8/9/2018 8:58 pm : link
He's never been accurate, even in college.

He simply might not be good at football.
RE: RE: Webb is way too amped  
AcesUp : 8/9/2018 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14034305 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 14034277 AcesUp said:


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He barely saw action last preseason and didn't really get snaps in practice last year. After his first few reps you could tell that he was a little too excited, I think he'll look better 2nd half.



Agreed. He could lay off the interviews for a bit, too, just my opinion.


Absolutely. The fluff pieces got a little out of hand.
RE: in preseason games  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2018 8:59 pm : link
In comment 14034347 Steve in South Jersey said:
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I don't understand why they don't go for 2. It is good short yardage and goal line practice.


Because our place kicker missed extra points last year. Need to make a decision on him.
Very nice tackle!  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 8:59 pm : link
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Nice  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 8:59 pm : link
tackle by Haley.
Chubb  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 9:00 pm : link
Hasnt looked good at all
Blitz coming  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:01 pm : link
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RE: I don't think it's Webb  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:01 pm : link
In comment 14034354 ajr2456 said:
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He's never been accurate, even in college.

He simply might not be good at football.


Some of us are just having fun with it, but it's clear he hasn't actually developed. So he's kind of still that college QB. It's especially jarring when Mayfield is on the other sideline and looks incredibly poised and capable without a full season on the bench.
What a throw by Mayfield on the throw  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:02 pm : link
even if the WR couldn't stay in. Wow.
Looks like a catch  
adamg : 8/9/2018 9:02 pm : link
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That  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:02 pm : link
looks like a catch. Regardless, it's another great play by Mayfield.
Mayfield  
cokeduplt : 8/9/2018 9:03 pm : link
Kinda reminds of A poor mans favre
By the way,  
Mr. Bungle : 8/9/2018 9:03 pm : link
Josh Allen: 3/5, 35 yards.

In case anyone cared.
Mayfield..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2018 9:04 pm : link
looks very good, but that guy leaves the pocket on almost every play.
Looks like a catch to me.  
BlackLight : 8/9/2018 9:04 pm : link
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Toe looked up before the ball  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2018 9:04 pm : link
Got there. But a great play either way.
It's ruled a catch.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:05 pm : link
Great play by Mayfield.
RE: Mayfield  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:05 pm : link
In comment 14034369 cokeduplt said:
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Kinda reminds of A poor mans favre


Agreed.
Looking forward to getting the first look at Lauletta in the NFL.  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 9:05 pm : link
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Mayfield looking like he knows what hes doing  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:05 pm : link
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Wow, nice pass.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:06 pm : link
Dude is on another level from Webb.
RE: Mayfield..  
christian : 8/9/2018 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14034372 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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looks very good, but that guy leaves the pocket on almost every play.


He breaks the pocket, but he makes good decisions and isn't wasting a lot of time with his feet.
wow  
BleedBlue : 8/9/2018 9:06 pm : link
mayfield is special looking
anyone else catch that  
bLiTz 2k : 8/9/2018 9:06 pm : link
giants players ass crack..
Another  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:06 pm : link
nice play by Johnson.
Mayfield looks great!  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 9:06 pm : link
!
RE: anyone else catch that  
BleedBlue : 8/9/2018 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14034385 bLiTz 2k said:
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giants players ass crack..



yes was dying, i think it was rob thomas
Mayfield does look very good BUT  
nicky43 : 8/9/2018 9:07 pm : link
some of it is because our pass defense so far is non-existent.
Nice run stop.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:07 pm : link
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Stark contrast  
David B. : 8/9/2018 9:07 pm : link
Between Mayfield and Webb. This is Mayfield's FIRST NFL action, and while Webb hasn't had much, but he's been in the league long enough he should be ahead. He's not.
Run D is looking good. Guys setting the edge  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:07 pm : link
and tackling fairly well.
RE: Wow, nice pass.  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 9:07 pm : link
In comment 14034381 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Dude is on another level from Webb.


Well, 1st overall pick compared to 3rd round pick.
There are suddenly a LOT of good young RBs  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:08 pm : link
around the NFL, but I think Chubb is gonna be a good one.
RE: Mayfield looks great!  
Jim in Tampa : 8/9/2018 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14034387 Britt in VA said:
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!

A QB we can agree on!

;>)
RE: Stark contrast  
AcesUp : 8/9/2018 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14034391 David B. said:
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Between Mayfield and Webb. This is Mayfield's FIRST NFL action, and while Webb hasn't had much, but he's been in the league long enough he should be ahead. He's not.


Mayfield was the first overall pick for a reason. It's not really fair to compare the two.
That  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:08 pm : link
was nice by Chub. Chandler was badly juked.

Guice has a knee injury.
Mayfield sure seems  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 9:08 pm : link
Like he's going to be the goods.
RE: Wow, nice pass.  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14034381 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Dude is on another level from Webb.


But Webb started over him in a bowl game....after Mayfield transferred!

I am not a huge Mayfield fan, however he is doing good things tonight but he has to stay in the pocket. He is gonna get hit.... a lot!
RE: RE: Wow, nice pass.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14034394 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 14034381 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Dude is on another level from Webb.



Well, 1st overall pick compared to 3rd round pick.


We've seen 1st round picks bust and this 3rd round pick has a year on Mayfield in the NFL. I know he was a backup, but still, he also gets to learn from one of the best on a daily basis.

First down, Mayfield.
Carter getting close....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:10 pm : link
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RE: RE: Wow, nice pass.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:10 pm : link
In comment 14034401 dep026 said:
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In comment 14034381 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Dude is on another level from Webb.



But Webb started over him in a bowl game....after Mayfield transferred!

I am not a huge Mayfield fan, however he is doing good things tonight but he has to stay in the pocket. He is gonna get hit.... a lot!


Hehe. And he's too short, or something.

Even  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:10 pm : link
on that play, look at how Mayfield buys time to at least avoid a sack and make a throw.
Is it me  
jnoble : 8/9/2018 9:10 pm : link
Or does Bruce Beck always appear to be about 5 feet tall when he does interviews?
Yeah, don't let people forget how many laughed at Mayfield  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:10 pm : link
as a high pick. And certainly this game is proof of nothing, but he's ahead of the learning curve.
Are you serious?  
David B. : 8/9/2018 9:10 pm : link
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Mayfield was the first overall pick for a reason. It's not really fair to compare the two.


I get that, but Webb has over a YEAR in the league of learning at Eli's side, watching film, etc.. He shouldn't be MORE jittery and nervous than a rookie QB -- even the first pick.
We got a sack!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:11 pm : link
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Thomas would have crushed him if he fell on him!  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:11 pm : link
LOL
Strong play by Rob Thomas  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:11 pm : link
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Bruce Beck asks some awful questions  
Mr. Bungle : 8/9/2018 9:11 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: Wow, nice pass.  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14034402 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 14034394 Britt in VA said:


Quote:


In comment 14034381 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Dude is on another level from Webb.



Well, 1st overall pick compared to 3rd round pick.



We've seen 1st round picks bust and this 3rd round pick has a year on Mayfield in the NFL. I know he was a backup, but still, he also gets to learn from one of the best on a daily basis.

First down, Mayfield.


Two things going against Webb: 3rd round AND spread offense. A lot of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round guys that had success (Garapolo, Wilson, and Cousins) were pro-style QB's in college.
Come on, Webb.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:12 pm : link
I'm rooting for him.
RE: Are you serious?  
AcesUp : 8/9/2018 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14034409 David B. said:
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Quote:


Mayfield was the first overall pick for a reason. It's not really fair to compare the two.



I get that, but Webb has over a YEAR in the league of learning at Eli's side, watching film, etc.. He shouldn't be MORE jittery and nervous than a rookie QB -- even the first pick.


He didn't play, he shadowed. He also had a different skillset with a different set of challenges, they're not really comparable.
Geez..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2018 9:12 pm : link
Mayfield looked like a ragdoll.

That to me looks like the biggest issue - he looks smaller than I thought and breaking the pocket constantly could take its toll
RE: We got a sack!  
jnoble : 8/9/2018 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14034410 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I like how he threw him down like a rag doll
Carter Looks like he could be a player  
bigblue18 : 8/9/2018 9:13 pm : link
Getting Really close Keeps attacking
RE: Come on, Webb.  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14034416 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I'm rooting for him.


I'm rooting for him too. Lauletta too.
RE: Strong play by Rob Thomas  
christian : 8/9/2018 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14034413 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Mayfield is really easy to take down. Thomas could have ended his season right there if he wanted. Funny getting thrown like a doll was the mercy play.
Rightly  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:14 pm : link
or wrongly, I don't think the Giants would have ever drafted Mayfield. He doesn't fit their size requirements for the position, and he had too many on and off the field incidents. Nothing major, but too much for the #2 pick.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Wow, nice pass.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14034415 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 14034394 Britt in VA said:


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In comment 14034381 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Dude is on another level from Webb.



Well, 1st overall pick compared to 3rd round pick.



We've seen 1st round picks bust and this 3rd round pick has a year on Mayfield in the NFL. I know he was a backup, but still, he also gets to learn from one of the best on a daily basis.

First down, Mayfield.



Two things going against Webb: 3rd round AND spread offense. A lot of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round guys that had success (Garapolo, Wilson, and Cousins) were pro-style QB's in college.


Also, alot of people scoffed at the idea of Mayfield being picked so high.

Certainly, jury is still out as this is just one pre-season game, but it's a good start for him. His lack of height, which could be an issue, wasn't an issue tonight.
RE: Yeah, don't let people forget how many laughed at Mayfield  
bLiTz 2k : 8/9/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14034408 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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as a high pick. And certainly this game is proof of nothing, but he's ahead of the learning curve.


agreed. Many of us were laughed at for preferring him over Rosen/Darnold/Allen. Who knows what the future will hold but I still maintain that his accuracy is a bigger slam dunk than the other prospects..who cares if hes short.
RE: RE: Come on, Webb.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14034422 Britt in VA said:
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I'm rooting for him.



I'm rooting for him too. Lauletta too.


He's in now.
I do recall Sy saying how much he liked Mayfield.....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
Looks like Cleveland wont be disappointed this time. I think they definitely have a team to compete with in the AFC.
Walk it off  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
Simmons!
Kyle Lauletta  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
makes his first appearance as a Giant
RE: Bruce Beck asks some awful questions  
jnoble : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14034414 Mr. Bungle said:
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His fake "look how excited I am about sports!" voice and patronizing questions always annoyed me
Nice move there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
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Simmons  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
with another nice run, but he's hobbling. Hope he's OK. Now it's Lauletta. Nice first throw.
Lauletta looking poised there...  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
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It's Lauletta time  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
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Nice pass there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
Damn.
Another nice throw by Lauletta  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
pass interference on Cleveland
If we picked Mayfield...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
I'd be crapping my pants that he's going to get hurt, even as impressive as he is.

Then again, we have a backup who couldn't hit Shaq from 3 yards out. Even if he looks durable.

Lauletta already looks to be much more accurate - on 2 throws
That throw was on the money  
bubba0825 : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
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It was pretty much on target  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
Better throw than anything from Webb.
Nice  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
throw.
Lauletta with another nice throw....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
Accurate passer there
RE: RE: Stark contrast  
ajr2456 : 8/9/2018 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14034397 AcesUp said:
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In comment 14034391 David B. said:


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Between Mayfield and Webb. This is Mayfield's FIRST NFL action, and while Webb hasn't had much, but he's been in the league long enough he should be ahead. He's not.



Mayfield was the first overall pick for a reason. It's not really fair to compare the two.


Webb's been in the league for a year he should be ahead.
Good throw  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 9:17 pm : link
right on the money.
Blocking break down big time  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:17 pm : link
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He dropped that in the bucket  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:18 pm : link
Nice pass
I'm a little bit of a Lauletta homer....  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 9:18 pm : link
Being a hometown guy, and all. (and a pro style QB)
As an aside, I really expected more penalty's for "tackling with  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 9:18 pm : link
the helmet"? I think we've only had one
Kyle  
XBRONX : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
looks poised out there unlike Webb
Hope t he defense makes a quick stop here.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
Want to see as much of Lauletta as possible.
RE: If we picked Mayfield...  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14034439 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I'd be crapping my pants that he's going to get hurt, even as impressive as he is.

Then again, we have a backup who couldn't hit Shaq from 3 yards out. Even if he looks durable.

Lauletta already looks to be much more accurate - on 2 throws


That's the concern with Mayfield. Is he going to stay behind the LOS when he scrambles, or regularly become a runner? If the latter, then he risks being hammered like RGIII, especially at his size.
Um. They're both playing, so they're comparable  
David B. : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
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He didn't play, he shadowed. He also had a different skillset with a different set of challenges, they're not really comparable.


Mayfield didn't play either! He was in college last year. Mayfield was a first overall pick and Webb was a project, BUT Webb has a YEAR ON HIM, ffs. A year of practicing and working with PROs. Mayfield doesn't.

Webb is bigger, and has a way stronger arm than Mayfield. But Mayfield has a good arm, is more accurate, gets football intrinsically, and LOOKS like the 1st round QB in his first outing. Webb looks like a career backup in his second preseason.

I bet Lauletta plays better tonight with a lesser skill set.

I'm not sticking a fork in Webb yet, but he's been BRUTAL tonight.
RE: As an aside, I really expected more penalty's for  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14034450 PatersonPlank said:
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the helmet"? I think we've only had one


Can be called on every play. They probably won't call it much.
Lauletta completing passes  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
good for his confidence..
Lauletta looks so much more poised  
slickwilly : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
In the pocket compared to Webb.
RE: Lauletta looks so much more poised  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14034459 slickwilly said:
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In the pocket compared to Webb.


And a nicer, more accurate pass.
Dixon not punting well  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:20 pm : link
....another area that we supposedly improved?!
3 passes by Lauletta and we already know he's the #2 QB  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 9:20 pm : link
...
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2018 9:20 pm : link

Paul Schwartz
‏Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
2m2 minutes ago

Saquon Barkley on 39-yard run: "The offensive line did a great job of creating space and creating a hole.'' Barkley said TE Evan Engram "did an unbelievable job of blocking on the backside.''
Lauletta's mechanics look nice.  
Mr. Bungle : 8/9/2018 9:21 pm : link
Looking forward to seeing more of him.
RE: Lauletta looks so much more poised  
jnoble : 8/9/2018 9:21 pm : link
In comment 14034459 slickwilly said:
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In the pocket compared to Webb.


I was just thinking if he eventually goes on to replace Eli I could take my old Dave Brown #17 jersey out of the closet and attach his name over Brown's on the back lol
RE: ...  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14034463 Eric from BBI said:
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Paul Schwartz
‏Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
2m2 minutes ago

Saquon Barkley on 39-yard run: "The offensive line did a great job of creating space and creating a hole.'' Barkley said TE Evan Engram "did an unbelievable job of blocking on the backside.''


Impossible, I heard Evan Engram can't block.
Lauletta  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:22 pm : link
needs more arm strength, but with proper training at the NFL level that might well be possible.
RE: 3 passes by Lauletta and we already know he's the #2 QB  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14034462 dpinzow said:
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It took Webb 10 attempts to complete 3 passes.
Webb will get more shots during the preseason  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 9:23 pm : link
Its way too early to claim anything really. Same goes for Mayfield and Lauletta. Also remember the coaches see these guys in practice every day, so that affects things too.
RE: Dixon not punting well  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14034461 Simms11 said:
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....another area that we supposedly improved?!


Well, I don't think we lose our seventh round pick if we cut him.
After two throws you could tell the difference between our two backups  
Go Terps : 8/9/2018 9:23 pm : link
Lauletta has control over his body. Webb, frankly, doesn't know how to throw a football. We shouldn't waste more snaps on him.
Unbelievable  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:24 pm : link
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Jeez, Mayfield guns it in there.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:25 pm : link
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RE: If we picked Mayfield...  
crick n NC : 8/9/2018 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14034439 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I'd be crapping my pants that he's going to get hurt, even as impressive as he is.

Then again, we have a backup who couldn't hit Shaq from 3 yards out. Even if he looks durable.

Lauletta already looks to be much more accurate - on 2 throws


LOL Are you trolling?
Wow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:25 pm : link
Mayfield. Talk about hitting someone right in stride.
Fantastic  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:25 pm : link
throw by Mayfield.
Terrible tackling and coverage...  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:25 pm : link
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I meant..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2018 9:25 pm : link
Lauletta looked more accurate than Webb, not Mayfield!
Why  
David B. : 8/9/2018 9:26 pm : link
Is Zak DeOssie still in the game making tackles on ST? Don't they know what he's capable of? Get another long snapper some work before ZD gets hurt.
How many more days in Cleveland...  
M.S. : 8/9/2018 9:26 pm : link

...before Mayfield is named the starter?

One?

Two?

Three at most?
That's the definition of 'hit in stride'. Lead the receiver.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:26 pm : link
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Poor Tyrod Taylor  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:26 pm : link
haha.
......  
NewBlue : 8/9/2018 9:27 pm : link
Poor Tyrod Taylor
Dave in Hoboken : 9:26 pm : link : reply
haha.

I'll take him here
awful job by the safety  
Jay on the Island : 8/9/2018 9:27 pm : link
Orion Stewart was to blame there.
RE: I meant..  
crick n NC : 8/9/2018 9:27 pm : link
In comment 14034481 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Lauletta looked more accurate than Webb, not Mayfield!


DUH I know that...are you finished with Webb?
RE: How many more days in Cleveland...  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 9:27 pm : link
In comment 14034483 M.S. said:
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...before Mayfield is named the starter?

One?

Two?

Three at most?


Yeah. They're in a good spot, because Taylor looked quite good as well.

They may be able to trade Taylor for a decent pick if they decide to start Mayfield.
That Mayfield pass  
Giant John : 8/9/2018 9:27 pm : link
Was for all the lame dopes that questioned hi ark strength. Always a Giant fan but Ive liked Mayfields game for a long time.
Basile missed that tackle  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 9:27 pm : link
.?
Mayfield has been very impressive  
Jay on the Island : 8/9/2018 9:28 pm : link
His pocket mobility and awareness are very advanced. His eyes are always downfield.
Mayfield seems like a QB  
slickwilly : 8/9/2018 9:28 pm : link
that is not going to benefit by sitting a year. They need to play the guy. He is a baller.
Ark =  
Giant John : 8/9/2018 9:28 pm : link
Arm strength.
RE: Basile missed that tackle  
Jay on the Island : 8/9/2018 9:28 pm : link
In comment 14034491 jeff57 said:
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I think it was Orion Stewart
NuMber 45, Orion Stewart with the whiff there on the slant...  
LarmerTJR : 8/9/2018 9:28 pm : link
Who the hell is Orion Stewart?
Safety was a moron  
Jimmy Googs : 8/9/2018 9:29 pm : link
..
Thomas Quinn.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:29 pm : link
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Right  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:29 pm : link
now, the talent gulf between Eli and every other QB is the football equivalent of the distance from the Earth to the Moon.
Callaway is the next Josh Gordon  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 9:29 pm : link
loved him Florida. He is a day away from being suspended and banned, but he is very, very good.
Why are they taking it out?  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:29 pm : link
Poor return decision again .......Quinn?
RE: Thomas Quinn.  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14034498 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Yep, hes still got it.
Other than Stewart all of our RBs have looked great  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:30 pm : link
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RE: Callaway is the next Josh Gordon  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14034502 dep026 said:
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loved him Florida. He is a day away from being suspended and banned, but he is very, very good.


First round talent, but a lot of character questions.
They're not comparable  
AcesUp : 8/9/2018 9:30 pm : link
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Mayfield didn't play either! He was in college last year. Mayfield was a first overall pick and Webb was a project, BUT Webb has a YEAR ON HIM, ffs. A year of practicing and working with PROs. Mayfield doesn't.

Webb is bigger, and has a way stronger arm than Mayfield. But Mayfield has a good arm, is more accurate, gets football intrinsically, and LOOKS like the 1st round QB in his first outing. Webb looks like a career backup in his second preseason.

I bet Lauletta plays better tonight with a lesser skill set.

I'm not sticking a fork in Webb yet, but he's been BRUTAL tonight.


Mayfield was a 5th year Senior that had 3.5 years starting in college. He played in a spread like Webb, but he played for Lincoln Riley who uses a lot of modern pro concepts. Webb is a project with a redshirt year in a completely different system, he's still very green. We need to take the preseason puff pieces with a grain of salt, he's a midround project while Mayfield was a #1 overall with much more experience. This is not an apples to apples comparison.
Lauletta!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:30 pm : link
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RE: Callaway is the next Josh Gordon  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:31 pm : link
In comment 14034502 dep026 said:
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loved him Florida. He is a day away from being suspended and banned, but he is very, very good.


He just got pinched again too, I think he failed a drug test.
Of..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2018 9:32 pm : link
course not:

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DUH I know that...are you finished with Webb?


But he looks really unnatural to the eye test. I'm a believer that you don't teach accuracy, and he looked terrible at that tonight, but like many said - he might have been amped to get reps or whatever.

Just a very poor showing for Webb - which looks worse when Lauletta comes in and immediately looks accurate
Mayfield looks awesome!! If I were OBJ Id want to go to the Browns  
Jim in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:33 pm : link
too.

Joking aside, Webb looks pretty bad. I dont know what he lacks can be learned.
Callaway is such a great athlete  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 9:33 pm : link
That he can light up a joint while running down the field and not break stride.
So its very early, but if the Browns dont  
Beezer : 8/9/2018 9:33 pm : link
start Mayfield Game 1 ... oy.
I honestly feel bad for Webb  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:35 pm : link
He seems like a good guy that works extremely hard. He just might not have it at this level.
RE: That Mayfield pass  
M.S. : 8/9/2018 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14034490 Giant John said:
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Was for all the lame dopes that questioned hi ark strength. Always a Giant fan but Ive liked Mayfields game for a long time.

Yep... the guy showed his magic at Oklahoma. Looks the same as a Pro. Looks like Browns finally made the right pick!!!
RE: They're not comparable  
ajr2456 : 8/9/2018 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14034508 AcesUp said:
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Quote:


Mayfield didn't play either! He was in college last year. Mayfield was a first overall pick and Webb was a project, BUT Webb has a YEAR ON HIM, ffs. A year of practicing and working with PROs. Mayfield doesn't.

Webb is bigger, and has a way stronger arm than Mayfield. But Mayfield has a good arm, is more accurate, gets football intrinsically, and LOOKS like the 1st round QB in his first outing. Webb looks like a career backup in his second preseason.

I bet Lauletta plays better tonight with a lesser skill set.

I'm not sticking a fork in Webb yet, but he's been BRUTAL tonight.



Mayfield was a 5th year Senior that had 3.5 years starting in college. He played in a spread like Webb, but he played for Lincoln Riley who uses a lot of modern pro concepts. Webb is a project with a redshirt year in a completely different system, he's still very green. We need to take the preseason puff pieces with a grain of salt, he's a midround project while Mayfield was a #1 overall with much more experience. This is not an apples to apples comparison.


Webb's mechanics are bad, something that shouldn't be the case a year into the NFL
RE: Other than Stewart all of our RBs have looked great  
christian : 8/9/2018 9:35 pm : link
In comment 14034506 BestFeature said:
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Stewart is just brutally slow. Like out of the league slow.
Webb  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:36 pm : link
tonight looked like a pitcher who throws 95 mph but can't find the plate.
Lauletta may not have the biggest arm  
David B. : 8/9/2018 9:36 pm : link
But when he throws the ball, it goes to where the receiver can catch it and make a play.

That's a WIN.
Positives so far...  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:36 pm : link
Run D and Run O. Specials coverage has been good. First team Oline was OK too.
Lauletta's arm looks a little stronger than I expected  
Jay on the Island : 8/9/2018 9:36 pm : link
If he can find away to add more velocity to his throws then we might have something here.
Webb just doesn't look fluid with his movements...  
GFAN52 : 8/9/2018 9:36 pm : link
too mechanical.
The Browns 3rd string QB is now in  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:36 pm : link
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Mayfield should be done for the night  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 9:37 pm : link
It would be so Brownsian to keep him in for no reason whatsoever and have him hurt himself.
RE: RE: They're not comparable  
santacruzom : 8/9/2018 9:39 pm : link
In comment 14034523 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 14034508 AcesUp said:


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Webb's mechanics are bad, something that shouldn't be the case a year into the NFL


He supposedly has this insane work ethic, but he may not know what he should work on.
Nice hit.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:39 pm : link
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Nice  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:39 pm : link
hit by Stewart.
Another great return.....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:40 pm : link
sarcasm there
That Tom Quinn touch  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 9:40 pm : link
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Terps you are pathetic  
Dave on the UWS : 8/9/2018 9:41 pm : link
The practice I saw Webb made Lauletta look outmatched. Webb looked terrible tonight. He looked clunky, mechanical and his throwing fundamentals were terrible- the opposite of practice. Obviously if he cant translate to game action he wont be here long. Lets be a little patient.
Thomas Quinn:  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:41 pm : link
Occupation: Professional Picture Owner.
RE: RE: Other than Stewart all of our RBs have looked great  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14034524 christian said:
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In comment 14034506 BestFeature said:


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Stewart is just brutally slow. Like out of the league slow.


He might be a pass protection guy, and veteran to make a sneaky play occasionally.
RE:  
David B. : 8/9/2018 9:42 pm : link
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Webb's mechanics are bad, something that shouldn't be the case a year into the NFL


I agree, but I fear it may be worse than that. He has ALL the athleticism and physical ability in the world. But I'm afraid the problem is between his ears. (football IQ).

Some guys just get it, and some guys don't. Guys like Chad Pennington and Jason Garrett had it between their ears, but had weak arms. Lauletta is PLENTY accurate, and seems to get it. I HOPE he has ENOUGH arm to be more than a good backup. If not, he's Pennington -- a guy who can't attack the sidelines.


Was that penalty  
Jay in Toronto : 8/9/2018 9:42 pm : link
On Thomas or Haley?
Honestly I hope Mayfield is great  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:42 pm : link
All of the greats are going to retire soon and Cleveland can use a break.
Those who spent time reading into Davis Webb the prospect  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:44 pm : link
would have seen that the knocks against him were related to his ability to read the field and deliver the pass quickly enough. Some people wrote it as "slow to process" what he sees. I saw a bit of that tonight.
Robert Martin looking good  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 9:44 pm : link
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Nice block  
Jay in Toronto : 8/9/2018 9:45 pm : link
By Smith
Martin with a few nice runs too......  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:45 pm : link
He was very good at Rutgers.
Ill tell you what I see from this team..  
bLiTz 2k : 8/9/2018 9:45 pm : link
Across the board they look like they are committed to running the ball, and stopping the run. Exactly what you want to see in preseason game #1.
Wish Lauletta  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:46 pm : link
had a few more seconds. He had Martin curtting across.
Except for a couple of rare instances  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2018 9:47 pm : link
Giant WR not getting much seperation
Papa mentioning the Yankees!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:47 pm : link
:)
RIght read for Lauletta there....  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 9:47 pm : link
just couldn't get it done.
RE: Terps you are pathetic  
AcesUp : 8/9/2018 9:48 pm : link
In comment 14034541 Dave on the UWS said:
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The practice I saw Webb made Lauletta look outmatched. Webb looked terrible tonight. He looked clunky, mechanical and his throwing fundamentals were terrible- the opposite of practice. Obviously if he cant translate to game action he wont be here long. Lets be a little patient.


I think this is proper perspective. Ignore the preseason hype and recalibrate your expectations, both short term and long, the guy is a project seeing his first real action in 2 years.
Can you not decline that?  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:49 pm : link
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Not a lot of penalties on Giants either....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:50 pm : link
that shows pretty good discipline
Why are we playing Tanney?  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:51 pm : link
I want to see more of Lauletta.
Why is Taney in there?  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:51 pm : link
Shouldnt Lauletta be getting more reps? Taney wont be here!
Why take Lauletta out?  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:52 pm : link
Ugh.
Jesus.  
Beezer : 8/9/2018 9:52 pm : link
Catch the damn football fellas.
Now  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:52 pm : link
we can't catch anything.

Surprised Tanney is playing. Thought we'd see more of Lauletta.
Yikes.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:53 pm : link
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We're in the "these guys are barely football players"  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:54 pm : link
depth of the game, might not be worth playing Lauletta with this group.
Bruce Beck is so annoying  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 8/9/2018 9:54 pm : link
Preseason is bad enough without his interviews.
RE: Why take Lauletta out?  
nygiants16 : 8/9/2018 9:56 pm : link
In comment 14034575 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Ugh.


hia game will be the pats game
This is Tanney's payment  
David B. : 8/9/2018 9:56 pm : link
for being the 4th camp arm. He has NO SHOT WHATSOEVER. He's hoping to be someone else's 3rd stringer.
Did Shurmur call plays tonight?  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:57 pm : link
Did he use a sheet?
I know it's just one pre-season game  
nyjuggernaut2 : 8/9/2018 9:58 pm : link
but if Eli misses any time this season with an injury, we may be screwed.
Ok....better punt.  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 10:01 pm : link
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The browns  
crick n NC : 8/9/2018 10:01 pm : link
Play by play guy reminds me of Michael Scott, but not in a good way 👎
RE: I know it's just one pre-season game  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14034594 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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but if Eli misses any time this season with an injury, we may be screwed.


We are screwed.
RE: I know it's just one pre-season game  
ZGiants98 : 8/9/2018 10:02 pm : link
In comment 14034594 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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but if Eli misses any time this season with an injury, we may be screwed.


Of course we are! Why wouldnt we be? Any team loses their starting QB and they are likely screwed outside of the Eagles.
Dixon looks like a huge upgrade over  
ZGiants98 : 8/9/2018 10:02 pm : link
Wing.
Why take out Lauleta?  
prdave73 : 8/9/2018 10:02 pm : link
I swear.. Like Tanney is going to make the team?? See what you got in these Rookie QB's.. smh.
Nice little move  
Beezer : 8/9/2018 10:08 pm : link
by Raymond there.
RE: Terps you are pathetic  
Go Terps : 8/9/2018 10:13 pm : link
In comment 14034541 Dave on the UWS said:
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The practice I saw Webb made Lauletta look outmatched. Webb looked terrible tonight. He looked clunky, mechanical and his throwing fundamentals were terrible- the opposite of practice. Obviously if he cant translate to game action he wont be here long. Lets be a little patient.


There's also the possibility that you don't know what the hell you were watching.
RE: Lauletta  
NYDCBlue : 8/9/2018 10:39 pm : link
In comment 14034467 AcidTest said:
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needs more arm strength, but with proper training at the NFL level that might well be possible.


Considering how small his biceps looked in comparison to our punter, you have to be hopeful that a year in an "NFL weight room" will do wonders for his arms.
Webb seems like a book smart overachiever  
slickwilly : 8/9/2018 10:57 pm : link
Let me explain that. We've all heard how meticulous Webb is with his note taking and his binders. He swems very much like people I have met in real life who are very intelligent, but the issue is the translation of that knowledge to what it is meant for. Webb seems so mechanical locking in on receivers because he has the "book smarts" of what he thinks is the right read, but not the natural ability to diagnose a D and react to it real time.

The overachiever part also goes back to past experience. How may times did you see a kid who was really good at a sport, but in the back of your mind you were also thinking if I got to play whatever sport year round like this kid I would kick his ass?

Webb seems like he has gotten to where he is because of a great work ethic which is comendible for sure, but I think he lacks that elite talent and natural ability to excel at the highest level of the sport.
So it only took one preseason  
Doomster : 8/10/2018 11:23 am : link
game to determine that Webb and Lauletta were mistakes and wasted draft picks?
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