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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2018 6:52 pm
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RE: Come on, Webb.  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14034416 Dave in Hoboken said:
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I'm rooting for him.


I'm rooting for him too. Lauletta too.
RE: Strong play by Rob Thomas  
christian : 8/9/2018 9:13 pm : link
In comment 14034413 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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Mayfield is really easy to take down. Thomas could have ended his season right there if he wanted. Funny getting thrown like a doll was the mercy play.
Rightly  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:14 pm : link
or wrongly, I don't think the Giants would have ever drafted Mayfield. He doesn't fit their size requirements for the position, and he had too many on and off the field incidents. Nothing major, but too much for the #2 pick.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Wow, nice pass.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14034415 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 14034402 Dave in Hoboken said:


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In comment 14034394 Britt in VA said:


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In comment 14034381 Dave in Hoboken said:


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Dude is on another level from Webb.



Well, 1st overall pick compared to 3rd round pick.



We've seen 1st round picks bust and this 3rd round pick has a year on Mayfield in the NFL. I know he was a backup, but still, he also gets to learn from one of the best on a daily basis.

First down, Mayfield.



Two things going against Webb: 3rd round AND spread offense. A lot of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round guys that had success (Garapolo, Wilson, and Cousins) were pro-style QB's in college.


Also, alot of people scoffed at the idea of Mayfield being picked so high.

Certainly, jury is still out as this is just one pre-season game, but it's a good start for him. His lack of height, which could be an issue, wasn't an issue tonight.
RE: Yeah, don't let people forget how many laughed at Mayfield  
bLiTz 2k : 8/9/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14034408 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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as a high pick. And certainly this game is proof of nothing, but he's ahead of the learning curve.


agreed. Many of us were laughed at for preferring him over Rosen/Darnold/Allen. Who knows what the future will hold but I still maintain that his accuracy is a bigger slam dunk than the other prospects..who cares if hes short.
RE: RE: Come on, Webb.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:14 pm : link
In comment 14034422 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 14034416 Dave in Hoboken said:


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I'm rooting for him.



I'm rooting for him too. Lauletta too.


He's in now.
I do recall Sy saying how much he liked Mayfield.....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
Looks like Cleveland wont be disappointed this time. I think they definitely have a team to compete with in the AFC.
Walk it off  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
Simmons!
Kyle Lauletta  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
makes his first appearance as a Giant
RE: Bruce Beck asks some awful questions  
jnoble : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14034414 Mr. Bungle said:
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His fake "look how excited I am about sports!" voice and patronizing questions always annoyed me
Nice move there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
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Simmons  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
with another nice run, but he's hobbling. Hope he's OK. Now it's Lauletta. Nice first throw.
Lauletta looking poised there...  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:15 pm : link
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It's Lauletta time  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
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Nice pass there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
Damn.
Another nice throw by Lauletta  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
pass interference on Cleveland
If we picked Mayfield...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
I'd be crapping my pants that he's going to get hurt, even as impressive as he is.

Then again, we have a backup who couldn't hit Shaq from 3 yards out. Even if he looks durable.

Lauletta already looks to be much more accurate - on 2 throws
That throw was on the money  
bubba0825 : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
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It was pretty much on target  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
Better throw than anything from Webb.
Nice  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
throw.
Lauletta with another nice throw....  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
Accurate passer there
RE: RE: Stark contrast  
ajr2456 : 8/9/2018 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14034397 AcesUp said:
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In comment 14034391 David B. said:


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Between Mayfield and Webb. This is Mayfield's FIRST NFL action, and while Webb hasn't had much, but he's been in the league long enough he should be ahead. He's not.



Mayfield was the first overall pick for a reason. It's not really fair to compare the two.


Webb's been in the league for a year he should be ahead.
Good throw  
dep026 : 8/9/2018 9:17 pm : link
right on the money.
Blocking break down big time  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:17 pm : link
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He dropped that in the bucket  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:18 pm : link
Nice pass
I'm a little bit of a Lauletta homer....  
Britt in VA : 8/9/2018 9:18 pm : link
Being a hometown guy, and all. (and a pro style QB)
As an aside, I really expected more penalty's for "tackling with  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 9:18 pm : link
the helmet"? I think we've only had one
Kyle  
XBRONX : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
looks poised out there unlike Webb
Hope t he defense makes a quick stop here.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
Want to see as much of Lauletta as possible.
RE: If we picked Mayfield...  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14034439 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I'd be crapping my pants that he's going to get hurt, even as impressive as he is.

Then again, we have a backup who couldn't hit Shaq from 3 yards out. Even if he looks durable.

Lauletta already looks to be much more accurate - on 2 throws


That's the concern with Mayfield. Is he going to stay behind the LOS when he scrambles, or regularly become a runner? If the latter, then he risks being hammered like RGIII, especially at his size.
Um. They're both playing, so they're comparable  
David B. : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
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He didn't play, he shadowed. He also had a different skillset with a different set of challenges, they're not really comparable.


Mayfield didn't play either! He was in college last year. Mayfield was a first overall pick and Webb was a project, BUT Webb has a YEAR ON HIM, ffs. A year of practicing and working with PROs. Mayfield doesn't.

Webb is bigger, and has a way stronger arm than Mayfield. But Mayfield has a good arm, is more accurate, gets football intrinsically, and LOOKS like the 1st round QB in his first outing. Webb looks like a career backup in his second preseason.

I bet Lauletta plays better tonight with a lesser skill set.

I'm not sticking a fork in Webb yet, but he's been BRUTAL tonight.
RE: As an aside, I really expected more penalty's for  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14034450 PatersonPlank said:
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the helmet"? I think we've only had one


Can be called on every play. They probably won't call it much.
Lauletta completing passes  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
good for his confidence..
Lauletta looks so much more poised  
slickwilly : 8/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
In the pocket compared to Webb.
RE: Lauletta looks so much more poised  
jeff57 : 8/9/2018 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14034459 slickwilly said:
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In the pocket compared to Webb.


And a nicer, more accurate pass.
Dixon not punting well  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:20 pm : link
....another area that we supposedly improved?!
3 passes by Lauletta and we already know he's the #2 QB  
dpinzow : 8/9/2018 9:20 pm : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/9/2018 9:20 pm : link

Paul Schwartz
‏Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
2m2 minutes ago

Saquon Barkley on 39-yard run: "The offensive line did a great job of creating space and creating a hole.'' Barkley said TE Evan Engram "did an unbelievable job of blocking on the backside.''
Lauletta's mechanics look nice.  
Mr. Bungle : 8/9/2018 9:21 pm : link
Looking forward to seeing more of him.
RE: Lauletta looks so much more poised  
jnoble : 8/9/2018 9:21 pm : link
In comment 14034459 slickwilly said:
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In the pocket compared to Webb.


I was just thinking if he eventually goes on to replace Eli I could take my old Dave Brown #17 jersey out of the closet and attach his name over Brown's on the back lol
RE: ...  
BestFeature : 8/9/2018 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14034463 Eric from BBI said:
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Paul Schwartz
‏Verified account @NYPost_Schwartz
2m2 minutes ago

Saquon Barkley on 39-yard run: "The offensive line did a great job of creating space and creating a hole.'' Barkley said TE Evan Engram "did an unbelievable job of blocking on the backside.''


Impossible, I heard Evan Engram can't block.
Lauletta  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:22 pm : link
needs more arm strength, but with proper training at the NFL level that might well be possible.
RE: 3 passes by Lauletta and we already know he's the #2 QB  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:22 pm : link
In comment 14034462 dpinzow said:
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It took Webb 10 attempts to complete 3 passes.
Webb will get more shots during the preseason  
PatersonPlank : 8/9/2018 9:23 pm : link
Its way too early to claim anything really. Same goes for Mayfield and Lauletta. Also remember the coaches see these guys in practice every day, so that affects things too.
RE: Dixon not punting well  
AcidTest : 8/9/2018 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14034461 Simms11 said:
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....another area that we supposedly improved?!


Well, I don't think we lose our seventh round pick if we cut him.
After two throws you could tell the difference between our two backups  
Go Terps : 8/9/2018 9:23 pm : link
Lauletta has control over his body. Webb, frankly, doesn't know how to throw a football. We shouldn't waste more snaps on him.
Unbelievable  
Simms11 : 8/9/2018 9:24 pm : link
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Jeez, Mayfield guns it in there.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/9/2018 9:25 pm : link
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RE: If we picked Mayfield...  
crick n NC : 8/9/2018 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14034439 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I'd be crapping my pants that he's going to get hurt, even as impressive as he is.

Then again, we have a backup who couldn't hit Shaq from 3 yards out. Even if he looks durable.

Lauletta already looks to be much more accurate - on 2 throws


LOL Are you trolling?
Wow.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/9/2018 9:25 pm : link
Mayfield. Talk about hitting someone right in stride.
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