The Browns are a great team to play 1st in preseason as they seem to truly game plan. Especially on defense, as Williams wants the defense to feel they are invincable. Playing 8 in the box due to Barkley (without OBJ) and showing a bunch of different blitzes are examples.
I am finally feeling better about the OL. They missed one blitz up the middle but otherwise, they did great and Cleveland was throwing a bunch different looks. I thought they open holes run blocking and kepts pocket clean. The back up tackles looked solid and i was expecting much worse from the practice reports. They were not manhandled.
The DL line looked great and our run defense was stout all night. It obviously bothered The Browns as they tried running on 3rd down several times with the same results?
The RB ran hard, we should be set.
We ran the ball and stopped the run. That is big.
The Giants won the war in the trenches
I am not going to worry too much about the passing game, yet. New scheme, a ton of different WRs. The passing game sucked but I will worry if its sucks after preseason game 3....not now.
I think we have enough corners to fill roster, which was a worry.
Good to see kicker make all his kicks.
No injuries!!!!!
Concerns
Will we ever guard a TE? We make every TE a hofer. Wtf?
Can any FS make a play? Not impressed.
Punt and punt coverage and punt and kick return are all suspect. I understand plenty of non nflers were playing. Not impressed. Gotten used to being outplayed on specials every week....
Last play of the half was unacceptable .
One last point,
It goes without saying, Webb was a disappointment .....but in his press conference , he did remind me that he has not played a game in over a year and a half. He was pressing and missing wide open receivers and has put a major bullseye on his back. If he continues, the fans will turn him.....talk about having a long week. Lets see how he rebounds, but he is now a red flag.
He may be what Shurmur thinks he is or might be, or, he may indeed turn out to be complete dogshit. But after 1 game to make such negative ABSOLUTE proclamations is shameful, imo..That might be more pathetic than his crappy performance
It's hard to evaluate the first team when they only play two series because how often in real games do you see a team not do much early then play better as the game progresses.
I thought, except for the first play, the offensive line was not good. On Barkley's other four runs he had nowhere to go. Eli had to rush throws because he had a defender bearing down on him. Ugh.
I was hoping Webb would look like he belonged. Hell, Roback looked more like an NFL QB than Webb. Please put a suit of armor on Eli.
Eli Apple, nice coverage on the 21 yarder to Higgins. Can't really tell how he did when he was out there, but that was pretty bad. I'm not convinced that this guy is going to amount to much.
I can't imagine there's a team that would do it, but injuries do happen.
It's hard to evaluate the first team when they only play two series because how often in real games do you see a team not do much early then play better as the game progresses.
I thought, except for the first play, the offensive line was not good. On Barkley's other four runs he had nowhere to go. Eli had to rush throws because he had a defender bearing down on him. Ugh.
I was hoping Webb would look like he belonged. Hell, Roback looked more like an NFL QB than Webb. Please put a suit of armor on Eli.
Eli Apple, nice coverage on the 21 yarder to Higgins. Can't really tell how he did when he was out there, but that was pretty bad. I'm not convinced that this guy is going to amount to much.
Apple was just another garbage pick by the former regime. He has extreme difficulty with a very important aspect for his position - locating the ball. This is not something new. He has no clue where the ball is when the ball is in the air. That's a pretty big problem being a DB.
Our run defense was solid, but why would any team run against us when they have open receivers all over the field. Mayfield looked like an NFL QB… Webb did not…
We were a 3-13 team that should have been blown up and restarted… no running back is going to fix this mess. Hoping things get better is not a strategy...
if you cant complete a pass that isnt a dumpoff in a game that doesnt matter, you're just not a good QB.
I remember not being impressed with anything when he played in the pre season last year.
Our run defense was solid, but why would any team run against us when they have open receivers all over the field. Mayfield looked like an NFL QB… Webb did not…
We were a 3-13 team that should have been blown up and restarted… no running back is going to fix this mess. Hoping things get better is not a strategy...
Amen to that, they did not look good.
Oh and if anyone need some yards, just throw it to the guy Eli Apple is covering
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but c'mon, last night's game was a disaster… one big run? the offense looked just like last year… unimaginative play calling
It is the fucking preseason. What exactly do you think you're going to see for playcalls?
I thought the starting defensive line looked great. Snacks, Tomlinson, and Hill are going to be a good trio.
Another player I thought looked good was Andrew Adams. He was all over the field with the second team.
Best part, no injuries. The most important thing in preseason is too keep the team healthy.
No offense but they do not need to prove anything to us.
Its preseason....
Having new coaches has an advantage...no reason not be creative....no need to show anything for the Jaguars to use.
Webb played poorly....but he has plenty of time to redeem himself.
The OL looked better....that will play out as well
He was a massive disappointment after all the off-season hype. That's the bottom line.
the thing about the pre season is that if you have talent, this is where it shines. Thats how Victor Cruz was discovered. If you have talent it will flash in these games. If Webb cant put it on a guy in a game that doesnt matter, how is he going to do it in a real game?
Giants are really two different teams
when OBJ is playing Giants are dangerous and can erupt in a big play at anytime.
when OBJ is not playing they are predicable unable to execute with medicare OL, thin at WR and aging QB
Giants are really two different teams
when OBJ is playing Giants are dangerous and can erupt in a big play at anytime.
when OBJ is not playing they are predicable unable to execute with medicare OL, thin at WR and aging QB
you got this from 2 series, 1 in which they scored?
No definitive conclusion can be made.
Webb stunk and I doubt he can improve much. Lauletta should rise up.
The CBs minus Jenkins scare me. The safeties minus Collins scare me.
Don’t forget, the Browns TE is supposed to be a beast, so a beast beat us up...it happens.
We did look good in the trenches...that encourages me a lot.
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hey, I only watched the first half...
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but c'mon, last night's game was a disaster… one big run? the offense looked just like last year… unimaginative play calling
It is the fucking preseason. What exactly do you think you're going to see for playcalls?
They want a game plan that is equivalent to a playoff game, after all preseason is truly indicative of what the season will look like... Just go back to 1972 when they were 6-0 in the preseason....
I've seen this incorrect statement made repeatedly since last night. The actual facts are he had 4 rushes Total. So he had 3 rushes other than his 39 yarder. One was for a loss, the other 2 were moderate gains.
It reminds me of those with the anti-Eli agenda who keep saying Eli is 38, when he is actually 37, and won't be 38 until early 2019. Kind of pathetic...
the current starting FS on the unofficial depth chart didn't play last night and has apparently been impressive in camp. He's also faster than both Thompson and Adams.
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For 4 yards. So 1-39 and 4-4.
I've seen this incorrect statement made repeatedly since last night. The actual facts are he had 4 rushes Total. So he had 3 rushes other than his 39 yarder. One was for a loss, the other 2 were moderate gains.
It reminds me of those with the anti-Eli agenda who keep saying Eli is 38, when he is actually 37, and won't be 38 until early 2019. Kind of pathetic...
It's not just on bbi. The media keeps throwing out the same "unimpressive" stat. Here's a video of Barkley's runs. He has one big negative gain because the play was blown up and makes something out of nothing on the other two. Oh, and one of those "5 carries" is Jonathan Stewart and this is the NFL's YT channel. I suspect this is where the discrepancy is coming from.
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