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For draft QB guy, Webbs performance stung

joeinpa : 8/10/2018 7:49 am
I wanted a quarterback, not because I believed Eli was done, but because of the importance of that position going forward.

Wanting a quarterback even as a Penn State fan, I was disappointed in the Giants pick.

I rationalized by accepting the premise that the quarterbacks coming out, just weren't worth that value, although Mayfield was pretty impressive last night.

I also believed the Giants wouldn't pass on a quarterback out of loyalty to Eli, and that maybe they believed Webb was just as good a prospect.

Last night being his first extended action, I don t think it s an overreaction for fans to watch and think, "What the hell?"

Regardless of what shills like Paul Dottino say, you need more than a great attitude and work ethic to be an NFL quarterback.

Hopefully it was first game jitters. But the speed of a game is much different than practice, and last night he looked overwhelmed.

And yes, I m one of those guys that will be upset, if Darnold flashes tonight like Mayfield did.

And if you re honest it will bother some of you too.


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And I continue..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/10/2018 3:21 pm : link
to wonder why there's a "sting" attached to how Webb plays or Darnold??

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Come on Fatman
joeinpa : 11:06 am : link : reply
When a fan expresses a concern it s not right or wrong, it just is. I m not creating a narrative, just stating I was disappointed in Webbs performance last night and if Darnold plays well it will increase the sting


Barkley looked legit. I just want an excellent player at #2 regardless oft he position. I don't get the hand wringing watching the other QB's play.
FMIC  
joeinpa : 8/10/2018 3:34 pm : link
Your a good fan, so am I. You wanted a good player, you got one.

I wanted a quarterback over even a great running back, because of the Simms and Eli eras in contrast to in between their eras.

I think they will have made a colossal mistake if Darnold is the next Simms or Eli, if they themselves are in quarterback hell.

If Darnold is the next Sanchez, quarterback hell will still stink, but at least for me easier to accept.

Guess I m more of a what if guy than you. Not a good quality, but it s who I am

In any event hope the Giants made the correct move. I would take no satisfaction in being correct on thinking quarterback was the way to go
All offseason..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/10/2018 3:39 pm : link
I've heard takes similar to "If Darnold is a good player, the Giants will have made a mistake no matter how good Barkley is".

And that just sounds ridiculous. One poster actually said that if both players become HoF guys, Gettleman's legacy will be one where he was "schooled".

That's how fucked up some of the takes are.

Basically how players perform is out of our control, as is what is going to happen 2-3 years down the line, so worrying about how a guy not on my team will look in an opening preseason game just seems pointless.
...first pre season game  
Torrag : 8/10/2018 3:50 pm : link
Neither Webb or Lauletta played with the 1's. Calm down. There were drops and missed routes. It's way too early to be down on eithe rone of these guys based on last nights game. Wayyyyyy too early.
FMiC  
joeinpa : 8/10/2018 4:54 pm : link
I agree, I said it s not a good quality to be "What if?
RE: Really??  
Matt M. : 8/10/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14034883 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I actually came away impressed with Lauletta, but again it is only preseason.

You know who actually impressed me the most last night? Barkley. Everyone knew he was getting the first touch and he took it 40 yards.

Not sure how Darnold plays would take away from that, but I'm never ceased to be amazed by what narratives people create.
There's a couple of things I don't get. One is some people's preoccupation with how the 1st round QBs do. I don't give a rat's ass because we took Barkley. As long as he is even somewhat as advertised, I am thrilled.

The othdr thing is the laser like focus on how Webb looks. Again who cares? They have 2 young QBs. As long as one looks good and promising we are good. It doesn't matter which one that turns out to be.
Common sense would indicate Webb isn’t here for long..  
Sean : 8/10/2018 5:49 pm : link
Shurmur said the Barkley pick wasn’t a vote of confidence for Webb. Barkley was the pick because he was the best player on their board. Webb was picked by Reese who didn’t have any luck picking QB’s as well as McAdoo. Shurmur likes Lauletta, he’s the guy we need to pull for imv. If not, QB will be addressed when it needs to be addressed.
From everything I've read on Webb  
mrvax : 8/10/2018 6:03 pm : link
it looked to me like he had the jitters. He wanted so bad to go out there and prove himself he likely was a nervous wreck.

Hopefully he can get some Xanax or whatever and relax; have fun. Gotta get past those yips.
RE: RE: Really??  
Jimmy Googs : 8/10/2018 6:47 pm : link
In comment 14035673 Matt M. said:
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The othdr thing is the laser like focus on how Webb looks. Again who cares? They have 2 young QBs. As long as one looks good and promising we are good. It doesn't matter which one that turns out to be.


This take is probably just as silly as those that put too much emphasis on Webb's bad game.

I guess we can use all 6 draft picks next year on QBs and it will help the odds on finding our next guy.

you know, so that way we are good...
Lauletta impressed me  
Jay on the Island : 8/10/2018 7:41 pm : link
His arm strength looked better than I expected. Going from Richmond to the NFL is a big jump but Lauletta did not look lost last night. Webb looked like the rookie from a small school. If Lauletta can improve his arm strength a bit then the Giants might actually have something here. I am excited to see where he is at in a year.
RE: From everything I've read on Webb  
Jim in Tampa : 8/10/2018 7:49 pm : link
In comment 14035706 mrvax said:
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it looked to me like he had the jitters. He wanted so bad to go out there and prove himself he likely was a nervous wreck.

Hopefully he can get some Xanax or whatever and relax; have fun. Gotta get past those yips.

Yeah, that's who I want as my QB to replace Eli who played his best in the big games, a QB who gets the "jitters" when he plays a Wk 1 pre-season game against a team that went 0-16 the year before.

The pressure must have been unbearable.
RE: Lauletta impressed me  
baadbill : 8/10/2018 7:52 pm : link
In comment 14035788 Jay on the Island said:
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..Webb looked like the rookie from a small school.


Simms was from a small school in 1979. But Simms was poised and confident his rookie year (he became the starter his rookie year around game 5 or so). Simms never looked the way Webb looked last night - completely lost (presumably because he was seeing defensive looks he never saw before).
RE: Lauletta impressed me  
Jim in Tampa : 8/10/2018 8:38 pm : link
In comment 14035788 Jay on the Island said:
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If Lauletta can improve his arm strength a bit then the Giants might actually have something here.

While the Giants are improving Lauletta's arm strength, maybe they can also coach him to run faster and grow taller!

Perhaps Lauletta overcomes his arm strength limitation, but expecting him to somehow improve it significantly just doesn't make sense.

It's not something you coach. He is what he is.
RE: RE: Lauletta impressed me  
BigBlue4You09 : 8/10/2018 9:05 pm : link
In comment 14035855 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 14035788 Jay on the Island said:


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If Lauletta can improve his arm strength a bit then the Giants might actually have something here.


While the Giants are improving Lauletta's arm strength, maybe they can also coach him to run faster and grow taller!

Perhaps Lauletta overcomes his arm strength limitation, but expecting him to somehow improve it significantly just doesn't make sense.

It's not something you coach. He is what he is.


That’s simply not true, a 22 year old can definitely improve his arm strength. Significantly? Probably not. Noticeably? Yes, along with improving his mechanics.
Darnold tonight looks better than Webb. It's not just Mayfield.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/10/2018 9:06 pm : link
Hilarious.
I agree...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/10/2018 9:34 pm : link
... Webb should quit and we still should have drafted Bridgewater.
RE: I'm a glass half full guy  
fanofthejets : 8/10/2018 10:10 pm : link
In comment 14035477 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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I'm hoping to see a lulzy multiple int fumble game from rat claws Darnold tonight. If that butthurt lazy selfish training camp holdout even plays!


Man must you be disappointed!
Their comments were one must just simply consider...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/10/2018 10:12 pm : link
... the source
RE: RE: RE: Lauletta impressed me  
Jim in Tampa : 8/11/2018 10:55 am : link
In comment 14035903 BigBlue4You09 said:
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In comment 14035855 Jim in Tampa said:


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In comment 14035788 Jay on the Island said:


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If Lauletta can improve his arm strength a bit then the Giants might actually have something here.


While the Giants are improving Lauletta's arm strength, maybe they can also coach him to run faster and grow taller!

Perhaps Lauletta overcomes his arm strength limitation, but expecting him to somehow improve it significantly just doesn't make sense.

It's not something you coach. He is what he is.



That’s simply not true, a 22 year old can definitely improve his arm strength. Significantly? Probably not. Noticeably? Yes, along with improving his mechanics.


You claim that a QB CAN improve his arm strength and then you admit that he really can't when you say "Significantly? Probably not."

The fact that Lauletta can't improve "significantly" improve his arm strength was the whole point of my post. What does it matter if he makes insignificant improvements in arm strength?
RE: I'm a glass half full guy  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/11/2018 11:52 am : link
In comment 14035477 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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I'm hoping to see a lulzy multiple int fumble game from rat claws Darnold tonight. If that butthurt lazy selfish training camp holdout even plays!


Well, you certainly didn't get the result you wanted, but at least you came up with a witty (albeit very strange) nickname!
...  
christian : 8/11/2018 12:17 pm : link
It's as likely Webb increases his accuracy as Laulleta increases his arm strength.

Both factors involve many parts of the body, muscle memory, footwork, and years of repetition.

Both guys have all the goods to be successful NFL QBs -- except throwing the ball well enough. And until that's not the primary function of a QB I don't see either guy winning in the NFL.
RE: I agree...  
fanofthejets : 8/11/2018 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14035938 Brown_Hornet said:
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... Webb should quit and we still should have drafted Bridgewater.


The Giants can have Bridgewater right now if they wanted. He's on the trade block. It's up to us and no be unreasonable in asking for a return.
Wouldn’t mind getting Bridgewater.  
jeff57 : 8/11/2018 5:16 pm : link
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RE: RE: I agree...  
Gatorade Dunk : 8/12/2018 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14036403 fanofthejets said:
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In comment 14035938 Brown_Hornet said:


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... Webb should quit and we still should have drafted Bridgewater.



The Giants can have Bridgewater right now if they wanted. He's on the trade block. It's up to us and no be unreasonable in asking for a return.

Why are you still here?
For those of you so concerned about this  
steve in ky : 8/12/2018 11:35 pm : link
were you equally concerned a couple years ago when Nassib was the back up?
RE: For those of you so concerned about this  
steve in ky : 8/12/2018 11:37 pm : link
In comment 14037566 steve in ky said:
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were you equally concerned a couple years ago when Nassib was the back up?


Sorry wrong thread.
I don’t know why people like bridgewater so much  
djm : 8/13/2018 8:27 pm : link
He’s only played a little bit and has been ordinary when he did play.

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