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Brian Baldinger breaks down Saquon's run

Anakim : 8/10/2018 9:00 am
In case you're interested
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Thank you  
ATL_Giants : 8/10/2018 9:09 am : link
that was detail I didn't pick up.
I think he should have powered through the hole in that 2nd clip.  
robbieballs2003 : 8/10/2018 9:13 am : link
The OL had a great surge there and Barkley could have lowered his shoulder on that LB going into the hole.
Woo Hoo!!  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/10/2018 9:18 am : link
we got ourselves a real Running Back Baby!!!!
And I'm not criticizing him.  
robbieballs2003 : 8/10/2018 9:19 am : link
I love Barkley but the big negative on him was always trying to look for the HR which leads to a lot of bouncing. While that initial surge was great, it seemed like there were missed assignment. I don't know if Solder and Hernandes were supposed to be on the DE without one of them sliding off to the LB.
Hernandez  
robbieballs2003 : 8/10/2018 9:20 am : link
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Please stay  
spike : 8/10/2018 9:34 am : link
Healthy
Flowers  
Pork Chop : 8/10/2018 10:27 am : link
destroyed his guy on both those plays
RE: I think he should have powered through the hole in that 2nd clip.  
Rflairr : 8/10/2018 10:29 am : link
In comment 14035026 robbieballs2003 said:
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The OL had a great surge there and Barkley could have lowered his shoulder on that LB going into the hole.


Thats going to be the question with him. Does he want to power up the middle and take contact. Or just always want to bounce it outside.

I know Bart Scott always harps on that went talking about Barkley
RE: And I'm not criticizing him.  
EricJ : 8/10/2018 10:38 am : link
In comment 14035041 robbieballs2003 said:
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I love Barkley but the big negative on him was always trying to look for the HR which leads to a lot of bouncing.

I am ok with it. I know they will get him to push the pile when needed. The fact is that defenses will have to defend us differently with his ability to bounce it to the outside. It will actually open up the middle a little more.
RE: RE: I think he should have powered through the hole in that 2nd clip.  
UConn4523 : 8/10/2018 10:44 am : link
In comment 14035197 Rflairr said:
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In comment 14035026 robbieballs2003 said:


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The OL had a great surge there and Barkley could have lowered his shoulder on that LB going into the hole.



Thats going to be the question with him. Does he want to power up the middle and take contact. Or just always want to bounce it outside.

I know Bart Scott always harps on that went talking about Barkley


Sometimes we want that, but on this play it would have netted 1 or two yards while taking a huge hit. I don’t know why anyone would want him (or any RB really outside of a short yardage situation) to take that hit when you are athletic enough to turn to plan B.

Too much is being made of his “bouncing”. He’s going to have plenty of carries inside the hashes. I’m glad he bounced out on that second play.
#23 on the Browns totally bitched out too.  
mittenedman : 8/10/2018 10:49 am : link
That should've been a 7 yard gain but 23 just comes up and watches him run by.

That's Damarious Randall, who's been trying to stay healthy and made a business decision.

It also shows you that - even though he's a speed RB - DBs are going to reluctant to hit this guy. He's still a 230# rock of granite and the fight or flight is gonna be a factor for DBs.
I am generally fine if Barkely  
Jimmy Googs : 8/10/2018 10:49 am : link
doesn't play one more preseason down.

He is simply great and ready to play ball right now...
He did cut the run  
PEEJ : 8/10/2018 10:51 am : link
up after his first cut. He didn't try to run around the end. Good vision
WTF  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 8/10/2018 11:21 am : link
Is a 38 yard run? Are our RBs allowed to do that? Seems like it's a tremendous unfair advantage for our team. Did the NFL change the rules!?!!
Thanks  
Andrew in Austin : 8/10/2018 12:32 pm : link
for sharing that breakdown. It is crazy Barkley did 3-4 things on that simple first run. If the OL can make some holes, we will at least have fun knowing he is going to make some plays.
I loved the run but holy over-analyzation.  
Brown Recluse : 8/10/2018 12:39 pm : link
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RE: WTF  
PatersonPlank : 8/10/2018 12:42 pm : link
In comment 14035313 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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Is a 38 yard run? Are our RBs allowed to do that? Seems like it's a tremendous unfair advantage for our team. Did the NFL change the rules!?!!


After all these years it felt like he went 100 yards to me.
No surprise....  
Jimmy Googs : 8/10/2018 12:59 pm : link

If you liked the first video  
BlueHurricane : 8/10/2018 1:09 pm : link
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Wait until teams have to defend run with Odell on the field  
g-baby : 8/10/2018 1:11 pm : link
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RE: RE: I think he should have powered through the hole in that 2nd clip.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/10/2018 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14035197 Rflairr said:
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In comment 14035026 robbieballs2003 said:


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The OL had a great surge there and Barkley could have lowered his shoulder on that LB going into the hole.



Thats going to be the question with him. Does he want to power up the middle and take contact. Or just always want to bounce it outside.

I know Bart Scott always harps on that went talking about Barkley


RBs that aggressively look for contact tend to have brief careers. Off the top of my head, Brandon Jacobs and Marion Barber were guys that loved to deliver hits. You don't last long playing that way.
There are going to be times that he bounces outside  
Jimmy Googs : 8/10/2018 1:42 pm : link
and the plays will work out in our favor and sometimes not. SB will learn over time as well.

And we should love the fact that defensive players are going to have to be ready for this as it only makes them commit more guys focused to the run...

2nd carry...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/10/2018 1:54 pm : link
...there was NO hole.

Nothing to power thru.

Watch again.
That first run is eye opening  
Go Terps : 8/10/2018 2:00 pm : link
Really impressive.
RE: #23 on the Browns totally bitched out too.  
RobCarpenter : 8/10/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 14035241 mittenedman said:
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That should've been a 7 yard gain but 23 just comes up and watches him run by.

That's Damarious Randall, who's been trying to stay healthy and made a business decision.

It also shows you that - even though he's a speed RB - DBs are going to reluctant to hit this guy. He's still a 230# rock of granite and the fight or flight is gonna be a factor for DBs.


Let's say he comes up to hit Barkley -- I've seen Barkley hurdle guys that do that, or side step them. His lateral quickness is off the charts. Tackling him in the open field is no easy task.
RE: I think he should have powered through the hole in that 2nd clip.  
Knee of Theismann : 8/10/2018 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14035026 robbieballs2003 said:
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The OL had a great surge there and Barkley could have lowered his shoulder on that LB going into the hole.


Robbie, I disagree with you. See 1:05 in the link I have here. If you watch again, The linebacker comes up and is in the hole right at the LOS when Barkley is still 3 yards behind the LOS. If he had tried to run through the hole he would have been stopped for no gain, maybe 1 yard. He bounces it outside and sees #21 and #51 there. At that point whether he turns it up or bounces it outside he's probably getting 3 yards either way. At least when he tries to bounce it outside again he gives the possibility of beating Ward to the edge and picking up a first down, and he also avoids taking a sandwiching hit from two defenders.

Point is: you can't tell me he would have picked up more than 3 yards on this play no matter what he did, right? Which means you also can't really tell me he made a bad decision by bouncing it outside (twice). If he had tried to bounce it and Ward stopped him for no gain, sure I could see the criticism, but he picked up 3 yards, which tells me he knew what what he was doing.

I just think people are going to be so quick to say "this guy's always trying to hit the home run etc." every time he tries to bounce it outside and doesn't go 50 yards. It's just his style of running and he does have the speed and agility to get away with it. As long as he isn't losing yardage what's your problem with him taking the risk?


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The knocks on him are cliched  
UConn4523 : 8/10/2018 6:13 pm : link
and already tiresome. Find any other RB prospect and you’ll find a ton of things you want them to do better.

I’ll take the guy trying to hit HRs all day over the garbage we’ve put out there the past 7 or 8 years.
Have to disagree with the 2nd run  
Bluesbreaker : 8/11/2018 2:23 pm : link
he hits that hole likely no gain oar maybe a yard .
it was great watching the breakdown .
Just watching his highlights the Zero to 60 speed is one of the attributes that jumps out . funny analogy set you morning
coffee on his head . Flowers looked good as well hopefully
he can live up to his potential .

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