contract it's unlikely he's hired by the Mets. Maybe if it's his only option his price will drop but i doubt it will be. How are the Red Sox doing with a more traditional baseball person balancing the fortune they spend on analytics? They don't strike out. They get more hits than HR's. They steal bases. What a stupid way to play baseball. It will never work in 2018 the game has changed.
I'm ready to jump ship too. Reading that article is infuriating.
In a city filled with some of the richest most competitive people in the world, how is the professional baseball team owned by a cheap guy who refuses to spend what it takes to win? In the 1 professional sport with no salary cap no less.
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Definitely there have been many trying periods to endure but there have been many good memories as well.
While I would never tell another fan how or when they should root for a team I just never have felt the urge to purposely abandon a team. With both the Mets and the Giants I have found that sticking with them and staying more vested during the bad years does make the eventual winning that much all sweeter to enjoy as a fan.
If I ever stop following the Mets it would likley have to be because I have tired of the game of baseball itself and not because of the team. Perhaps if the NL ever went to the DH it might cause it to happen for me.
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is just pretty much forgetting about baseball at some point of the summer. It's usually around the middle of July.
This year that time came early. I don't remember if I even watched any games in June.
Call me fair weather, but I just have no desire to watch shitty baseball... to watch DeGrom lose 1 nothing... I love the guy, maybe my favorite pitcher since Seaver, I just don't have the desire to watch the team.
My wife is probably good with it (me not watching baseball).
He did a good job straightening out Omar’s mess but when he was given the authority to spend, he spent foolishly. That’s what has wrecked the Mets
But Mets are in better shape then people realize because of their four strong starters.
This^. Sandy seems like a great guy. But he was an awful GM.
Alderson acquired 2 of those starters and calculated the right moves that helped get the Mets into the 2015 world series yes he wasn't elite but you can't say he wasn't a "good gm". Considering the ownership he had to deal with and the financial mess he had to overcome while carrying a player on the roster every year I think he deserves a little bit more respect from Mets fans. It didn't work out like we thought and here we are but he did bring some hope to the fan base.
he is an ex-marine, Vietnam veteran, Harvard law grad and he helped revolutionize baseball by adopting sabremetrics. Sandy the person is an American hero.
but I can also think he wasn't that great of a GM for the Mets.
Sometimes people don't remember but he didn't adopt sabremetrics in Oakland until he was forced to, prior to then he had a payroll among the highest. He also was GM for a team who drafted three consecutive ROYs in Canseco, McGwire, and Weiss.
Which is why I always feel like ownership in NY certainly had a hand in how Sandy spent or more than a hand - a directive. I felt like if he had carte blanche he might have chosen differently, but he's too much of a loyal "employee" to throw anyone under the bus.
and I don't see how anyone could think he didn't at least do a solid job, given the obvious calamity of the Madoff mess. He inherited a terrible farm system and for the first 3-4 years he had to cut costs dramatically. It is impossible to win games like that. When the team did improve it was in large part due to players he acquired like Conforto, Syndergaard, Cespedes, Granderson, Colon, Reed. He also doesn't get enough credit for how his organization developed/rehabbed JDG/Matz considering what the shit show of previous regimes did with guys like Mejia, Kazmir, Heilman, Pelfrey.
Parts of his strategy were highly flawed (shitty defense, resigning Bruce, weak bullpens) and things obviously didn't work out with the Cespedes and Wright contracts - but he was a professional from start to finish and he did a lot of good. Most reasons for optimism right now are thanks to him (Alonso, Nimmo, Conforto, Rosario, Gimenez, Wheeler, Syndergaard, Mcneil, Vientos, Mauricio etc). The next GM will inherit a hell of a lot more than Sandy did in 2010, with a far lower relative payroll, and he deserves a lot of credit for that.
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and I don't see how anyone could think he didn't at least do a solid job, given the obvious calamity of the Madoff mess. He inherited a terrible farm system and for the first 3-4 years he had to cut costs dramatically. It is impossible to win games like that. When the team did improve it was in large part due to players he acquired like Conforto, Syndergaard, Cespedes, Granderson, Colon, Reed. He also doesn't get enough credit for how his organization developed/rehabbed JDG/Matz considering what the shit show of previous regimes did with guys like Mejia, Kazmir, Heilman, Pelfrey.
Parts of his strategy were highly flawed (shitty defense, resigning Bruce, weak bullpens) and things obviously didn't work out with the Cespedes and Wright contracts - but he was a professional from start to finish and he did a lot of good. Most reasons for optimism right now are thanks to him (Alonso, Nimmo, Conforto, Rosario, Gimenez, Wheeler, Syndergaard, Mcneil, Vientos, Mauricio etc). The next GM will inherit a hell of a lot more than Sandy did in 2010, with a far lower relative payroll, and he deserves a lot of credit for that.
Wow. Just saw this Eric. Well done. Completely agree.
If the day ever comes that they sell, I'll be 100% be back. I just can't support that ownership group anymore as a fan!!!
If the day ever comes that they sell, I'll be 100% be back. I just can't support that ownership group anymore as a fan!!!
Pretty much what I said about the Knicks 15 years ago.
In a city filled with some of the richest most competitive people in the world, how is the professional baseball team owned by a cheap guy who refuses to spend what it takes to win? In the 1 professional sport with no salary cap no less.
He did a good job straightening out Omar’s mess but when he was given the authority to spend, he spent foolishly. That’s what has wrecked the Mets
But Mets are in better shape then people realize because of their four strong starters.
They've done nothing according to analytics. Par for the course for this loser franchise. Free DeGrom.
While I would never tell another fan how or when they should root for a team I just never have felt the urge to purposely abandon a team. With both the Mets and the Giants I have found that sticking with them and staying more vested during the bad years does make the eventual winning that much all sweeter to enjoy as a fan.
If I ever stop following the Mets it would likley have to be because I have tired of the game of baseball itself and not because of the team. Perhaps if the NL ever went to the DH it might cause it to happen for me.
There’s no way a real Mets fan switches to the yanks. Ain’t buying it.
At an impressionable age in '73, I thought the Mets were the team of the future, Yanks the team of the past.
Ha! Stupid kid!
Makes me think I'm really glad I'm not a Jets fan.
This year that time came early. I don't remember if I even watched any games in June.
Call me fair weather, but I just have no desire to watch shitty baseball... to watch DeGrom lose 1 nothing... I love the guy, maybe my favorite pitcher since Seaver, I just don't have the desire to watch the team.
My wife is probably good with it (me not watching baseball).
He did a good job straightening out Omar’s mess but when he was given the authority to spend, he spent foolishly. That’s what has wrecked the Mets
But Mets are in better shape then people realize because of their four strong starters.
This^. Sandy seems like a great guy. But he was an awful GM.
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He did a good job straightening out Omar’s mess but when he was given the authority to spend, he spent foolishly. That’s what has wrecked the Mets
But Mets are in better shape then people realize because of their four strong starters.
This^. Sandy seems like a great guy. But he was an awful GM.
Alderson acquired 2 of those starters and calculated the right moves that helped get the Mets into the 2015 world series yes he wasn't elite but you can't say he wasn't a "good gm". Considering the ownership he had to deal with and the financial mess he had to overcome while carrying a player on the roster every year I think he deserves a little bit more respect from Mets fans. It didn't work out like we thought and here we are but he did bring some hope to the fan base.
he is an ex-marine, Vietnam veteran, Harvard law grad and he helped revolutionize baseball by adopting sabremetrics. Sandy the person is an American hero.
but I can also think he wasn't that great of a GM for the Mets.
Sometimes people don't remember but he didn't adopt sabremetrics in Oakland until he was forced to, prior to then he had a payroll among the highest. He also was GM for a team who drafted three consecutive ROYs in Canseco, McGwire, and Weiss.
Which is why I always feel like ownership in NY certainly had a hand in how Sandy spent or more than a hand - a directive. I felt like if he had carte blanche he might have chosen differently, but he's too much of a loyal "employee" to throw anyone under the bus.
Exactly, if you were a much lesser fair weather fan...then you’d just switch to the Yankees anyway. And because Grandma like them.
Parts of his strategy were highly flawed (shitty defense, resigning Bruce, weak bullpens) and things obviously didn't work out with the Cespedes and Wright contracts - but he was a professional from start to finish and he did a lot of good. Most reasons for optimism right now are thanks to him (Alonso, Nimmo, Conforto, Rosario, Gimenez, Wheeler, Syndergaard, Mcneil, Vientos, Mauricio etc). The next GM will inherit a hell of a lot more than Sandy did in 2010, with a far lower relative payroll, and he deserves a lot of credit for that.
Parts of his strategy were highly flawed (shitty defense, resigning Bruce, weak bullpens) and things obviously didn't work out with the Cespedes and Wright contracts - but he was a professional from start to finish and he did a lot of good. Most reasons for optimism right now are thanks to him (Alonso, Nimmo, Conforto, Rosario, Gimenez, Wheeler, Syndergaard, Mcneil, Vientos, Mauricio etc). The next GM will inherit a hell of a lot more than Sandy did in 2010, with a far lower relative payroll, and he deserves a lot of credit for that.
Wow. Just saw this Eric. Well done. Completely agree.