(from MMO)
Reno (61-56) 9, Las Vegas (58-59) 5 Box Score
Peter Alonso 1B: 1-3, 2 RBI, 2 BB, K, .253/.356/.552
Dominic Smith RF: 1-5, .259/.333/.399
Patrick Kivlehan 3B: 2-4, RBI, .294/.343/.475
Alonso’s hot streak continued, and last night he proved that he can do more than just hit dingers. He hit a two-run single in the seventh inning to bring the 51s within four, while also drawing two walks to bring his August slash line to .394/.474/.909, and that’s not including his 3-5 game on July 30th. His average, which reached a low point of .165 on July 18th, has risen all the way up to .253 with his sizzling bat as well as his OPS climbing above .900 after dipping below .700.
RHP Cody Martin (L, 3-4, 6.93 ERA): 5.0 IP, 7 H, 6 R, 0 BB, 6 K
LHP Buddy Baumann (1-0, 5.10 ERA): 1.1 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 0 BB, 0 K
RHP Tim Peterson (0-1, 3.48 ERA): 0.2 IP, H, R, 0 BB, 2 K
LHP Ian Krol (3-0, 2.83 ERA): 2.0 IP, H, 0 R, BB, 2 K
Martin continued his season-long mediocrity with a good K:BB ratio in this one, but six runs given up in five innings. Baumann’s season has gone from good, to bad, to ugly; he had a 1.29 ERA in April and May, a 5.40 ERA in June, and now owns a 9.92 ERA in July and August. His recent prolonged struggles after a brief rough stint in the Majors have brought his ERA as a 51 to 6.56, and he has given up nine runs in nine innings since the All-Star break. It is notable to point out, however, that his ERA in Las Vegas is 11.17, while his road ERA as a 51 is 3.29. Peterson finally gave up a run since being demoted, while Krol continued his very fine season.
Reading (56-60) 5, Binghamton (55-62) 2 Box Score
Andres Gimenez SS: 2-for-4, 2B, K, .317/.403/.429
Will Toffey 3B: 0-for-2, 2 R, 2 BB, K, 309/.479/.509
Levi Michael 2B: 2-for-3, .305/.387/.469
Binghamton struggled offensively in this outing as they were held to just two runs on seven hits. The offense was just 1-for-6 with runners in scoring position, so they also failed to take advantage of the few opportunities that they did have. Toffey continues to get on base at an incredible rate and now has an 11:8 BB:K ratio over his last 10 games (17:17 in 18 games total with Binghamton).
RHP Franklyn Kilome (4-7, 4.04 ERA) 6.2 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 10 K
RHP Corey Taylor (2-1, 2.41 ERA) 1.0 IP, K
RHP Ryder Ryan (L, 2-2, 4.38 ERA) 0.2 IP, H, 2 ER, BB, K
Kilome made his third start with the Mets organization and it was his best so far. Kilome struck out a season-high ten batters and didn’t allow a single run until he had two outs in the seventh inning. With a 2.95 ERA and 20:5 K:BB ratio in 18.1 innings with Binghamton, Kilome’s Mets career is certainly off to a promising start.
Clearwater (62-53) 4, St. Lucie (46-67) 3 Box Score
Ali Sanchez DH: 1-for-4, R, HR, 2 RBI, 2 K, .284/.305/.422
Michael Paez 3B: 2-for-3, R, BB, K, .269/.340/.417
Dan Rizzie C: 2-for-3, BB, .263/.310/.341
St. Lucie didn’t have a ton of success offensively in Friday’s game as they were held to three runs on five hits. Sanchez got the Mets on the board with a two run home run in the fourth inning. Sanchez’s six home runs this season are double his previous career high; he continues to have a bounce-back season offensively. Paez continues his second half success and is now hitting .295/.370/.487 since the Florida State League’s All-Star break.
LHP Blake Taylor (L, 1-6, 5.02 ERA) 5.2 IP, 7 H, 4 ER, BB, 5 K
RHP Austin McGeorge (1-1, 2.49 ERA) 1.1 IP, 2 H, K
RHP Thomas McIlraith (1-3, 4.67 ERA) 1.0 IP, 2 K
Taylor started the game for St. Lucie and was pitching pretty well until he gave up a two-run home run in the sixth inning. This was just the fourth time in 17 games that Taylor has walked one batter or less. McGeorge has a 1.29 ERA with 18 strikeouts over his last 10 appearances.
Delmarva (58-55) 9, Columbia (52-61) 7 Box Score
Matt Winaker LF: 1-for-4, R, HR, RBI, .256/.367/.425
Zach Rheams DH: 1-for-3, R, HR, RBI, BB, K, .214/.305/.393
Hansel Moreno SS: 1-for-4, 2B, 3 RBI, K, .246/.316/.388
The Fireflies had only six hits in the game, but still managed to score seven runs on the strength of a bases clearing double by Moreno and two home runs. Winaker got the Fireflies on the board with a solo home run in the first inning. Winaker has a nine game hitting streak, during which he is hitting .400/.417/.800 with three home runs.
RHP Yeizo Campos (L, 1-4, 4.23 ERA) 4.0 IP, 6 H, 7 ER, 3 BB, 3 K
LHP Aaron Ford (2-2, 2.53 ERA) 2.1 IP, 4 H, ER, BB, 4 K
RHP Darwin Ramos (3-3, 4.70 ERA) 2.2 IP, 3 H, ER, BB, 2 K
Campos made his sixth start of the season and it was his worst of the year as he went just four innings (his shortest outing since June) and allowed a season-high seven earned runs. Ford was making his first appearance since July and struck out 4 in 2.1 innings. He has only walked 2 batters in 21.2 innings in 2018.
Brooklyn (29-25) 9, Connecticut (23-27) 2 Box Score
Carlos Cortes 2B: 2-for-4, 2B, 4 RBI, BB, K, .284/.349/.422
Chandler Avant 3B: 2-for-4, R, HR, 2 RBI, .256/.323/.333
Jose Miguel Medina CF: 1-for-5, R, HR, 2 RBI, K, .269/.330/.439
Brooklyn’s offense had a big game as they racked up 13 hits and every player in the starting lineup reached base at least once. Cortes just keeps on hitting and, after a slow start to his pro career, he now has a 10-game hitting streak during which he is 16-for-40 with two home runs and 12 RBIs. Avant hit his first professional home run, a two run shot in the second inning that got Brooklyn on the board and started a 5-run, two-out rally.
RHP Kyle Wilson (W, 2-3, 3.38 ERA) 5.0 IP, BB, 10 K
RHP Eric Hanhold (0-0, 0.00 ERA) 1.0 IP
RHP Ryley Gilliam (0-1, 1.86 ERA) 1.0 IP, 3 K
Wilson was fantastic in this start as he struck out a career high 10 batters over five hitless innings. Wilson’s season had gotten off to a rough start, but he has completely turned it around recently. Over his last two starts, he has struck out 18 batters and walked only two in 12.0 scoreless innings. Hanhold pitched his third scoreless rehab appearance with Brooklyn in his return from an oblique injury. After giving up a walk-off hit in his last outing, Gilliam returned to his usual dominance and struck out the side in order. Gilliam now has 18 strikeouts in 9.2 innings pitched.
Danville (28-21) 8, Kingsport (25-24) 6 Box Score
Jarred Kelenic CF: 2-for-5, 2 R, 2B, RBI, .247/.341/.430
Shervyen Newton SS: 2-for-4, 2B, 3 RBI, .287/.398/.468
Mark Vientos 3B: 2-for-4, 2B, RBI, BB, K, .309/.386/.531
Kingsport’s offense had an impressive game (as they seem to have every night), as they scored six runs on ten hits. Vientos had his third straight multi-hit game and now has 18 extra base hits in 42 games this season. Kelenic has been showing some signs of improvement over the last week, indicating that he may be adjusting to the Appalachian League after some early struggled.
RHP Oscar Rojas (L, 0-1, 6.75 ERA) 4.0 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, K
RHP Luis Silva (0-0, 4.57 ERA) 2.0 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 4 K
RHP Noah Nunez (1-2, 8.31 ERA) 1.0 IP, 2 H, ER, K
As great as Kingsport’s offense has been, the pitching has really held the team back from being a dominant team in the league. The Mets pitching staff has a 4.63 ERA on the season,
DSL Mets1 (38-21) 15, DSL Rockies (20-39) 4 Box Score
Felix Valerio 2B: 3-for-5, 3 R, 2B, 3B, RBI, BB, .321/.416/.416
Adrian Hernandez CF: 3-for-4, 3 R, HR, 2 RBI, BB, K, .265/.363/.418
Andres Regnault DH: 2-for-6, 2 R, HR, 3 RBI, K, .330/.417/.578
The Mets offense exploded for 15 runs in the blowout against the Rockies and averaged over three baserunners per inning for the game (14 hits, 11 walks, 3 errors, and 2 hit batters for 30 total baserunners). Hernandez continues his impressive power breakout, with three of his five home runs coming in the last four games. Valerio has had an outstanding season for a 17-year old and has turned it up to another level since being moved to the DSL Mets1. Since then, he has hit .471/.565/.569 in 13 games.
RHP Edinson Diaz (W, 3-1, 4.50 ERA) 5.0 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, K
RHP Reyson Santos (1-0, 4.80 ERA) 3.0 IP, BB, 4 K
LHP Ragui Rodriguez (1-1, 4.43 ERA) 1.0 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, BB, 3 K
Diaz pitched five innings in a game for the first time in his career, but only stuck out one batter. Rodriguez has 29 strikeouts in 22.1 innings pitched this season.
DSL Mets2 (28-31) 6, DSL Tigers1 (27-32) 3 Box Score
Federico Polanco 2B: 3-for-4, RBI, K, ,222/.290/.278
Jeison Rodriguez RF: 3-for-4, R, 3B, K, .191/.319/.339
Alejandro Medina DH: 3-for-4, 2 R, 2B, 2 RBI, K, ..141/.265/.211
The Mets had 13 hits in the game and actually had the chance to score more runs, but went just 2-for-15 with runenrs in scoring position.
RHP David Marcano (3-3, 7.12 ERA) 4.2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, ER, 3 BB, 7 K
LHP Daniel Guzman (W, 1-2, 1.42 ERA) 4.1 IP, 5 H, R, 3 K
Marcano hasn’t had a great debut season, but this start was solid and he struck out a career-high seven batters. Marcano doesn’t turn 17 until the end of August. Guzman hasn’t struck out many batters (only 17 in 33.2 innings(, but he has done an excellent job of limiting runs all year.
the Mets fans among us are dwindling. Only the strong survive.
Gimenez and Vientos are studs. Hard for me to say any prospect is better than them in the system. Both showing so much potential for their respective ages at key positions. Polished hitters who can do some damage.
Alonso should be up with the big club period. If he's the level hitter we are all hoping he is (Conforto level or better) they're wasting time.
the Mets fans among us are dwindling. Only the strong survive.
Wish I could take credit but its from MMO. If Dan ever jumps ship I will consider taking over but for now Im just keeping people filled in on the weekends.
I could never not be a Mets fan. I enjoy the sport too much and I have invested too many blood sweat and tears into this team. We were in the WS only 3.5 years ago. As much crap as the Mets get I still dont think they are as bad as a team like the Knicks. Yeah... the Wilpons suck... but the payroll has been good enough to win with... they made some hires we were all on board with (Sandy/Callaway). I still love our park. Our announcers are the best. Maybe its silver linings but I enjoy the Mets even in complete wipeout years like this one.
right and if any of those are reasons that are holding the Mets back from promoting a player that should be promoted and may be a big part of them competing next year, it's insane. DMM would know better how many guys need to get added to the 40man this offseason, but there are tons of options to take off right now - Callahan, Blevins, Gagnon or just cut/trade Bautista for peanuts.
Alonso could be an important piece of the team for the next several years. Why impact his development for a bunch of guys who have literally no future here?
1 under discussed factor with the team's decline the last few years was the FO staff getting poached away and not replaced (starting with Depo but others too). Either you learn from mistakes or repeat them, and i have no interest in watching them blow another potentially promising talent cycle with arrogant stupidity.
Two wasted spots on the 40 this offseason with Wright and Cespedes though, which relieve themselves on opening day.
Reason to call up Alonso now - get his feet wet in the majors.
But
Why start his service time clock now
Why take up an extra unnecessary 40 man spot this winter
Is he better off developing in the major# or in AAA for the next few months?
In my personal opinion, it’s asinine not to let Dom start every game the rest of the year except against tough lefties. “Hey kid, here’s your chance to earn your way here, or end your career. You’ve been shit on till now and it’s other people’s fault. Sink or swim, it’s up to you.” Completely foolish having him longer in Vegas
What did Sandy say he wanted to do with the franchise upon arriving?
What did he do his first year here - work towards those goals or not?
As time went on, the franchise deviated from the original stated goals. How and why?
We need to go outside our organization this offseason for help though. Its the only way.
Two wasted spots on the 40 this offseason with Wright and Cespedes though, which relieve themselves on opening day.
Reason to call up Alonso now - get his feet wet in the majors.
But
Why start his service time clock now
Why take up an extra unnecessary 40 man spot this winter
Is he better off developing in the major# or in AAA for the next few months?
In my personal opinion, it’s asinine not to let Dom start every game the rest of the year except against tough lefties. “Hey kid, here’s your chance to earn your way here, or end your career. You’ve been shit on till now and it’s other people’s fault. Sink or swim, it’s up to you.” Completely foolish having him longer in Vegas
As a fan, stuff like Dom Smith is what's frustrating.
We all as fans are in complete agreement on this, or close to it.
The Mets FO is supposed to do this for a living.
How is it not crystal clear to them?
What did Sandy say he wanted to do with the franchise upon arriving?
What did he do his first year here - work towards those goals or not?
As time went on, the franchise deviated from the original stated goals. How and why?
I really think its ridiculous how many people point out how many "winning seasons" he's had or "playoff runs" he's had. The guy was asked to slash payroll and get us out of financial hell all well dealing with the Madoff mess. He also inherited a horrid farm system. It was a long term play when he came in. He purposely went high school the first 4-5 years straight in the drafts knowing it was going to be a slow rebuild. It also kills me that people criticize him for signing guys like Frank Francisco and Mayberry Jr who were clearly just placeholders during the rebuilding years.
We were never going to compete until 2015 and that's when you finally saw him get aggressive for pieces to put us over the top. I do think he can be criticized for any team from the 2015-2018 era so at most I would call it a mixed bag. He should be criticized with what as happened here right or wrong although the injuries have been ridiculous too. Part of that is on him too though. He signed the wrong guys.
Z - I’m talking big picture franchise and leadership, not player signings/acquisitions etc. pro player scouting has been terrible, zero doubt about that. Dan and I have gone on and on about how terrible they’ve been on the small things.
Z - I’m talking big picture franchise and leadership, not player signings/acquisitions etc. pro player scouting has been terrible, zero doubt about that. Dan and I have gone on and on about how terrible they’ve been on the small things.
Got it. Thats fair.
Has their been internal discussions about being active in free agency on a piece or two? A trade?
The beats will never get any insider info into this so I get tired hearing about how the Mets will "never" go after player A or B, etc. The Mets would be foolish to put out what their intentions were but it would be nice to know that they are planning to do "something".
I guess Ricco did say they were planning to be competitive next year but I really hope its not hot air and there are real discussions going on.
And what everybody overlooks: he does not have to be put on the 40 man roster. This is important with mid season trades because otherwise you are just swapping one prospect for another.
Wahl reminds me of Heath Bell. Let’s hope he can continue to overachieve like Heath did.
That's a big part of the problem with AAA in Vegas. The stats are skewed. At least at Tidewater, they could trust the optics. Buffalo, New Orleans....they're like vagabonds. Syracuse will definitely be an improvement.
They should take a lesson from the Braves -- Gwinnett is 32 miles from Atlanta.
the Mets fans among us are dwindling. Only the strong survive.
I can never ever convert to the Yanks. That said, I wish there was a way to organize a protest (like fans not going to games en masse), etc, to really hammer the point. Not sure how affective that would be, but I'm just sick of the Wilpons. For as much as Dolan infuriates me, at least there are signs that he's willing to take a back seat. The Wilpons have been the same forever.
Z - it’s anyones guess which direction they are headed. Depends who is captaining the ship more than which way the wind is blowing. If I had to GUESS, there’s a strong wind pushing for a big signing this offseason. But who knows if it happens. Even if that’s the route they decide, odds are against it happening anyway, so who can predict.
The reality is next year is a transition season. Personally I’d sign Thor long term and build around him. Trade wheeler at peak whether its offseason or next years deadline, knowing you can QO him and not lose him for nothing. I always like stopgap signings like Bautista etc, but you can’t make those moves and block others because of that move.
A year from today they’ll know where the franchise stands, 2/3 through their transition season. Are their prospects legit stars in the making, or just star-ters? Or are they close to contending and the prospect chips can get them over the hump? Can’t be in between. It all starts with self scouting, and not thinking you are something you aren’t. Then follows with scouting the other teams hard, pros and minors. All just my opinion, but if done correctly I think they can be on top again soon with a great farm as well.
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Z. With DMM possibly joining Arc in the Bronx you may inherit the minor league reports permanently.
the Mets fans among us are dwindling. Only the strong survive.
I can never ever convert to the Yanks. That said, I wish there was a way to organize a protest (like fans not going to games en masse), etc, to really hammer the point. Not sure how affective that would be, but I'm just sick of the Wilpons. For as much as Dolan infuriates me, at least there are signs that he's willing to take a back seat. The Wilpons have been the same forever.
Yeah, I could never be a Yankees fan. I couldn't ever leave the Mets anyway, but if I somehow did I definitely wouldn't jump over there. Too many asshole and/or bandwagon fans...
Hopefully the Wilpons go away at some point. Wishful thinking, of course. But a guy can dream...
I'm glad you're back posting on Baseball threads. Tell me.....haw are the Phillies doing this ?? Is it pitching / or hitting ? Are any of their big players soon to be FA ?
I'm glad you're back posting on Baseball threads. Tell me.....haw are the Phillies doing this ?? Is it pitching / or hitting ? Are any of their big players soon to be FA ?
It’s a combination of both. They don’t have any big name free agents plus they will have plenty of money to spend. There will be plenty of teams going after Machado but I think he ends up on the Phillies. We could see both big name FA’s end up in the NL east. While I am not a big fan of the idea, there have been rumors for months that Harper could end up in Atlanta.
Reason to call up Alonso now - get his feet wet in the majors.
But
Why start his service time clock now
Why take up an extra unnecessary 40 man spot this winter
Is he better off developing in the major# or in AAA for the next few months?
In my personal opinion, it’s asinine not to let Dom start every game the rest of the year except against tough lefties. “Hey kid, here’s your chance to earn your way here, or end your career. You’ve been shit on till now and it’s other people’s fault. Sink or swim, it’s up to you.” Completely foolish having him longer in Vegas
The service time clock for Alonso doesn't matter with his age. Whether he hits FA at 30 or 31 in 6 or 7 years doesn't really matter. This isn't a Trout/Acuna/Soto situation where you worry about losing a phenom before he even hits his prime. If they wanted to let Dom play the rest of the season I'd be more ok with that but he's clearly fallen out of favor so to me the answer is obvious to let Alonso get his feet wet. I'd rather trade the 40 man spot to know whether or not to see if he is the opening day 1B next year or not. No guarantee there will be a clear answer, but either way the next GM can make a more informed decision.
Same with Frazier. Disaster seasons for both but it was nice to see him get a couple hits last night.
Bruce will have two a year deal left. If he proves healthy and is hitting again Im not so sure some team wouldn't want him. The Rockies certainly showed interest this past offseason and he could flourish there. Agreed we are not getting anything huge back but a team could certainly afford that contract (again... if healthy). The guy did just hit 36 home runs last year. This year he was never right.. First the plantar fasciitis than the hip.... Its basically been a completely lost year.
But that's why I'd want to get a look at Alonso now. You say there's not a lot to learn, I disagree. Rhys Hoskins got 50 games last year and I'd say the Phillies learned something really valuable. Dom Smith got 49 last year and we got a lot of warning signs that he wasn't ready. I believe the Mets have like 49 games left in the season. Why waste any of them not seeing what we have in Alonso (or even Smith if they still believe in him at all)?
I'm glad you're back posting on Baseball threads. Tell me.....haw are the Phillies doing this ?? Is it pitching / or hitting ? Are any of their big players soon to be FA ?
1. Nola turned into a cy young candidate
2. Dominguez turned into a quality closer.
3. Pivetta, Velasquez, and elfin have been Better than expected.
4. The offense is maddening. They don’t hit very well, but they work counts and walk. And they usually get 1-2 timely hits every game. Herrera carried the offense early, now it’s Hoskins/Franco.
I still think they are a year away and Manny Machado away. But they are so easy to root for.
Martinez got 5x110m. Not sure what you're talking about there.
Hosmer got paid.
Multiple pitchers landed big deals.
As Shecky said, 1 dimensional power hitters just don't have value anymore. Bruce would have ended up settling for what Frazier got or even a 1 year deal if Sandy hadn't gotten impatient for the first time ever.
This seems like revisionist history. The Mets wanted something of value back for Bruce when they floated he and Granderson two years ago. They never tried to "give him away". Also, other teams are on record as having interest in him this past offseason. It was a bad market for sure... But to act like a 3 year deal for a 30 year old who hits a ton of homeruns and was coming off nearly a 3 fWAR season is unheard of just comes off as unrealistic and illogical. Even if they could have gotten him for a bit less, Ive seen thousands of worse deals in my lifetime.
Again.. that may have been true at the time of him being signed but the market was extremely slow to develop. We were weeks from ST with the majority of the big free agents still on the board this past year. Presuming no team would have jumped in late (ala JD) is really just a complete guess. As you said, Bruce got a fair deal so what difference does it make if Sandy signed him at “his price”?
I’d be perfectly happy with a
Rosario
Nimmo
Machado
Conforto
Bruce
Alonso/Cespedes(late in the year)
McNeil
Plawecki/TDA/Whoever
Lineup.
If Machado is interested in playing for the Mets the next 10 years, by all means, that's a much better use of the Wilpons money than anything else they've done since Beltran - I just don't see any reason why he would choose to come here even if they were willing to spend.
And before this immidiateiy devolves into a Machado conversation I’m using him as an example. It is my belief we need one big bat we can rely on. A Cespedes replacement if you will. If we get that, I think we can succeed. That can come through FA or trade.
And before this immidiateiy devolves into a Machado conversation I’m using him as an example. It is my belief we need one big bat we can rely on. A Cespedes replacement if you will. If we get that, I think we can succeed. That can come through FA or trade.
B cause the Phillies and dodgers can offer more and have a better team.
I should've gone down to Reading.
Oh.. and DMM is no Hudson!!! Can you imagine him turning to the Yankees? Me neither.