Made a very large bet that Darnold would not be great. I hope he is right. Even if Barkley is everything we hope he can be, if Darnold is great it will have been the wrong pick.
Webb looking horrific thursday night is concerning as well. DG made bets on Eli, Webb, and Darnold not being great. His tenure as Giants GM rides on those 3 bets
What if Darnold is great, Barkley is great, and he drafts another QB Â
Without trading picks or players? Then DG is forgiven but that also means he was wrong about Eli and we have a top 5 pick
No it doesn't mean that. You can draft great QBs outside of the top 5. I'm not talking about banking on a 6th rounder, you can have a mid to late first round pick be a great QB no questions asked. You know that but you want to bash DG.
But if Darnold is too, then it was the wrong pick, plain and simple.
Sure, we could trade up again another year, but we could've solved the QB problem this year, in a strong class, without having to give up future assets.
Made a very large bet that Darnold would not be great. I hope he is right. Even if Barkley is everything we hope he can be, if Darnold is great it will have been the wrong pick.
Webb looking horrific thursday night is concerning as well. DG made bets on Eli, Webb, and Darnold not being great. His tenure as Giants GM rides on those 3 bets
But if Darnold is too, then it was the wrong pick, plain and simple.
Sure, we could trade up again another year, but we could've solved the QB problem this year, in a strong class, without having to give up future assets.
It's a QB league
QB was the right pick at 2. Period
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Without trading picks or players? Then DG is forgiven but that also means he was wrong about Eli and we have a top 5 pick
No it doesn't mean that. You can draft great QBs outside of the top 5. I'm not talking about banking on a 6th rounder, you can have a mid to late first round pick be a great QB no questions asked. You know that but you want to bash DG.
Ohh I see so a mid to late first rounder that will be great. Must not have been rated high in college to be late first rounder as a qb. But if we do take one late first then do you not think people and media will question why not take Darnold or a qb this past draft
So a late first round qb next year that we will hope we strike gold and SB this year will be a better chance than taking Darnold this year and a running back in later rounds.
Or here me out, this could be crazy
Darnold this year and that late first rounder next year could be an impact linebacker or DE
Sounds better to me than a RB with the second pick and a later first round qb next year that we must hope and pray is sent from above...
But if Darnold is too, then it was the wrong pick, plain and simple.
Sure, we could trade up again another year, but we could've solved the QB problem this year, in a strong class, without having to give up future assets.
It's a QB league
If this scenario played out, would it be the wrong pick if we won one or two superbowls with Barkley and the Jets didn't win any in that time period?
I had the QB's in the Draft ranked Darnold then a gap to Mayfield Â
Both had good debuts. If I were the Giants when Cleveland passed on Sam I would have pulled the trigger but not for Mayfield. That said I also thought Barkley was the defacto best player at the time of the Draft but project Darnold's development into a legit franchise guy. The positional value at QB combined with the stage Eli is at in his career were the deciding factors.
All water under the bridge now as it's all about Saquon.
and I have never seen so much made of week 1 of the preseason. I mean, there have been threads highlighting passer ratings and other statistics.
It’s prettt much all the people who were in the “draft a QB” camp worrying or wanting to prematurely pay themselves on the back.
You know who else looked phenomenal last night? Teddy Bridgewater, on repaired knee after 2 years out of football. Big deal. Forget waiting until the season is over, can we at least wait until the preseason is over?
RE: Webb
The people burying him after Thursday night, would be the same people pumping the brakes if he put up a Unitas-esque performance that apparently some of these other guys did.
Just remember something as you watch the class of 2018. There were a lot of idiots along the way who tried to tell us the likes of Mark Sanchez, RGIII and Flacco were elite franchise QBs.
Without trading picks or players? Then DG is forgiven but that also means he was wrong about Eli and we have a top 5 pick
No it doesn't mean that. You can draft great QBs outside of the top 5. I'm not talking about banking on a 6th rounder, you can have a mid to late first round pick be a great QB no questions asked. You know that but you want to bash DG.
Ohh I see so a mid to late first rounder that will be great. Must not have been rated high in college to be late first rounder as a qb. But if we do take one late first then do you not think people and media will question why not take Darnold or a qb this past draft
So a late first round qb next year that we will hope we strike gold and SB this year will be a better chance than taking Darnold this year and a running back in later rounds.
Or here me out, this could be crazy
Darnold this year and that late first rounder next year could be an impact linebacker or DE
Sounds better to me than a RB with the second pick and a later first round qb next year that we must hope and pray is sent from above...
Yeah Barkley this year and a QB next year in the mid to late portion of the first round where we'll be hopefully drafting means you get a generational RB and likely a good QB prospect. Rather than a bit of a better QB prospect this year and someone who doesn't come close to Barkley next year.
Looked good and I think is the exact type of qb you want in the modern nfl, can read a defense and is accurate. Most importantly he is mobile without being a run first qb. There will be other qbs like him in the 2020 and 2021 draft. I particularly like the kid from Stanford, who I think has Giants written all over him.
Darnold will never be a Giant, so there’s no point in crying over spilled milk. Eli may very well have two or three years left and hopefully the Giants can pair possibly the kid from Stanford (or someone similar) with a competent oline, Barkley, and OBJ. The obvious caveat is that fans will have to be ok giving up likely 2-3 first round picks to get that guy. Whereas Darnold could have been had at 2 this year.
Webb is not the answer, as you all saw the other night and as those who watched him in college have been saying since last year. That’s ok though, there will be other top qbs and the Giants can get one if they so choose. Hopefully they do not need to cross this bridge until 2020 or 2021, because the 2019 draft will not feature a legit top 5 qb.
Darnold could get hurt. He could crap out. He could never play like that again in games that count. But he looked nothing like Mark Sanchez. He looked like a star. Mark Sanchez never looked like a star. He's big, he's fast, he has a big arm, he's smart and he had a lot of poise during the game and after. Jet fans have every reason to be really excited and if he's their Eli and the Giants passed on him it will be just a little bit sweeter. Barkley seems like the real deal too but RBs just don't matter as much as QBs.
Looked good and I think is the exact type of qb you want in the modern nfl, can read a defense and is accurate. Most importantly he is mobile without being a run first qb. There will be other qbs like him in the 2020 and 2021 draft. I particularly like the kid from Stanford, who I think has Giants written all over him.
Darnold will never be a Giant, so there’s no point in crying over spilled milk. Eli may very well have two or three years left and hopefully the Giants can pair possibly the kid from Stanford (or someone similar) with a competent oline, Barkley, and OBJ. The obvious caveat is that fans will have to be ok giving up likely 2-3 first round picks to get that guy. Whereas Darnold could have been had at 2 this year.
Webb is not the answer, as you all saw the other night and as those who watched him in college have been saying since last year. That’s ok though, there will be other top qbs and the Giants can get one if they so choose. Hopefully they do not need to cross this bridge until 2020 or 2021, because the 2019 draft will not feature a legit top 5 qb.
We heard what a terrible draft 2017 was for QBs and now Watson is a God and Mahomes is the next big thing. I don't think it's a done deal that 2019 won't have a legit top 5 QB, unless you mean one worthy of a top 5 pick.
Ohh sorry sir...Please tell us what kind of post would be better for you to love football?
Rah Rah, all is good in Big Blue land and Eli has 10 more years and SB is a future HOF and Darnold is a bust because that is why DG passes on him.
Championship here we come
I’ll never understand the mindset of a miserable fuck spending their existence being a whiny troll on an internet message board. you literally add nothing here. there’s plenty of posters who are pessimistic about the giants but have excellent conversations. you are a fucking troll and make continue to poison this board...
yet more quality posters will leave here and you’ll still be here. Sad.
Looked good and I think is the exact type of qb you want in the modern nfl, can read a defense and is accurate. Most importantly he is mobile without being a run first qb. There will be other qbs like him in the 2020 and 2021 draft. I particularly like the kid from Stanford, who I think has Giants written all over him.
Darnold will never be a Giant, so there’s no point in crying over spilled milk. Eli may very well have two or three years left and hopefully the Giants can pair possibly the kid from Stanford (or someone similar) with a competent oline, Barkley, and OBJ. The obvious caveat is that fans will have to be ok giving up likely 2-3 first round picks to get that guy. Whereas Darnold could have been had at 2 this year.
Webb is not the answer, as you all saw the other night and as those who watched him in college have been saying since last year. That’s ok though, there will be other top qbs and the Giants can get one if they so choose. Hopefully they do not need to cross this bridge until 2020 or 2021, because the 2019 draft will not feature a legit top 5 qb.
We heard what a terrible draft 2017 was for QBs and now Watson is a God and Mahomes is the next big thing. I don't think it's a done deal that 2019 won't have a legit top 5 QB, unless you mean one worthy of a top 5 pick.
Thinking one more worthy of a top 5 pick. Things can change, but I don’t see 2019 being the year to make an investment in qb. 2020 and 2021 I think will feature potentially Costello, Lawrence, Fromm, Patterson, and maybe Grier(up in the air on that one).
Darnold could get hurt. He could crap out. He could never play like that again in games that count. But he looked nothing like Mark Sanchez. He looked like a star. Mark Sanchez never looked like a star. He's big, he's fast, he has a big arm, he's smart and he had a lot of poise during the game and after. Jet fans have every reason to be really excited and if he's their Eli and the Giants passed on him it will be just a little bit sweeter. Barkley seems like the real deal too but RBs just don't matter as much as QBs.
In a 2 game stretch in 2010 against the Pats and Dolphins, in the REGULAR season, Sanchez threw for 6tds and 0 ints and had a qb rating of 122.
after he gets at least a couple years of regular season experience.
But even as that guy, it's still way too soon. It's one really good pre-season performance. So, let's relax.
(However, as a small side-note, if Webb had the same performance as Darnold last night, the same people poo-pooing Darnold's performance would be praising Webb. Or, if Dranold was a Giant, they'd also be putting Darnold over. Let's be honest).
is just a Giant fan. Save your stats I could care less about numbers in the NFL they're meaningless. This is the forum that thinks Joe Namath isn't a HOFer. Not much intelligent conversation about the Jets here.
Made a very large bet that Darnold would not be great. I hope he is right. Even if Barkley is everything we hope he can be, if Darnold is great it will have been the wrong pick.
This is it in a nutshell and it's amazing how many people don't get this.
In today's NFL, especially with a world-class WR already on the team... a very good QB (on par with Eli or Simms) teamed with a solid RB (similar to Bradshaw or Morris) will always be better than the best RB in the league teamed with the next Brown, Kanell or Graham.
(And I'm afraid that the later combo is where we're heading.)
Let's start a thread!!! Darnold, Rosen and Mayfield haven't thrown one meaningful pass in a real NFL game against a real defense. Once the bullets start flying in real games with game planning and exotic blitz packages and coverages that these guys have to actually read.
I'll reserve judgment on these guys (including Barkley) till they actually play some real games against real competition
Ohh sorry sir...Please tell us what kind of post would be better for you to love football?
Rah Rah, all is good in Big Blue land and Eli has 10 more years and SB is a future HOF and Darnold is a bust because that is why DG passes on him.
Championship here we come
why do you care if the giants win a championship? you said yourself all you care about is making the playoffs for the next 10 years
all they all care about is getting a QB this past draft. Success, in the form of championships is immaterial. If Barkley is a HoF, we’ve got three years of playoffs that we would have passed on just so we could pick a QB.
How Darnold does is completely irrelevant to our success and to my own satisfaction. I wish him all the best in the world. But if Barkley truly is a HoF then I am more thane ecstatic and not just because we have a HoF player (which people apparently think is a trivial thing) but because a HoFer on this team with 2 other HoFers on offense, is absolutely a playoff team.
Here do not want to accept the premise that Darnold s performance at the end of the day must be factored into evaluating the wisdom of passing on him for a RB
Prior to the draft, we heard the qb s were flawed. Now we re hearing it doesn't matter how they play.
Barkley could be a great player, still does equate to the impact of a franchise quarterback, if indeed that is what Darnold becomes.
The don t take a quarterback crowd are hedging their bets.
Then why are so many on BBI going bonkers about Barkley’s 1st carry?
There were 0 plays made by Barkley this game that were any close to that one run. The run is significant because it showcased Barkley's talent. Only a handful RBs in the NFL can even make that play.
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Then why are so many on BBI going bonkers about Barkley’s 1st carry?
good players are always exciting. It’s cool and positive, but not necessarily predictive. And, despite the impression you’re trying to give, most people understand that i think.
was exactly was elite RBs do in this league and not many of them exist. The life for an RB isn’t the same as a QB. Darnold played well and good for him. But when blitzes come and the bullets fly, let’s see how he does. God for the Jets if they found a winner.
Are people really sold on Darnold after that game? Â
Sure he looked good but all of his passes were short. The two that he thew downfield were off the mark. This reminds me of Brady Quinn's debut where ESPN was hyping him up because he completed his first 10 passes but they failed tom point out that they were all check downs.
was exactly was elite RBs do in this league and not many of them exist. The life for an RB isn’t the same as a QB. Darnold played well and good for him. But when blitzes come and the bullets fly, let’s see how he does. God for the Jets if they found a winner.
Exactly! The difference between going from preseason to the regular season is far bigger for a QB than an RB.
and they saw how bad he is, they might have taken Darnold. If SD proves to be the goods, the Giants only have themselves to blame for passing over him.
Here do not want to accept the premise that Darnold s performance at the end of the day must be factored into evaluating the wisdom of passing on him for a RB
Prior to the draft, we heard the qb s were flawed. Now we re hearing it doesn't matter how they play.
Barkley could be a great player, still does equate to the impact of a franchise quarterback, if indeed that is what Darnold becomes.
The don t take a quarterback crowd are hedging their bets.
Yeah, we can start to have a realistic discussion on that in about 3-5 years. Not Day 2 after preseason game number 1.
Nobody is hedging their bets after a single preseason game, trust me. Nothing changed anybody's opinion yet. If anything, the opening snap further entrenched the don't take a QB crowd in their take, even validated it.
There are literally people here trying to dissect Barkley's 4 carries in a preaseason game, and coming to the conclusion somehow that it is a negative rather than a positive that he took the opening snap 40 yards from our own twelve yard line. Madness.
The truth is, the don't take a QB crowd has been ecstatic, and continue to be, while the "take a QB at all costs crowd" has not been able to come to grips with what happened since the night of the draft.
How we got fleeced by the chargers when we got Eli. The chargers got merriman, kaeding and Roman oben. Thread after thread of the same garbage. Who won that trade again??
This is more of the same. Darnold is better and it means nothing that we drafted Barkley if we don't win a Superbowl blah blah blah
The bottom line is we drafted Barkley and did not draft any of the top quarterbacks for a variety of reasons.
Accorsi was not afraid to stake his name to Eli and gettleman was not afraid to stake his name to Barkley.
We will see how it all plays out, but the verdict is not going to be determined by one preseason game or even 1 season. Hell, we may not know for 10 years, but please continue on with the giants screwed up and and we will be in quarterback hell while the jets are celebrating Superbowl victories with Darnold.
Hope he does well for the Jets. The Pats could use some actual competition...
Webb looking horrific thursday night is concerning as well. DG made bets on Eli, Webb, and Darnold not being great. His tenure as Giants GM rides on those 3 bets
Stop, you're going to confuse them.
Without trading picks or players? Then DG is forgiven but that also means he was wrong about Eli and we have a top 5 pick
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Without trading picks or players? Then DG is forgiven but that also means he was wrong about Eli and we have a top 5 pick
No it doesn't mean that. You can draft great QBs outside of the top 5. I'm not talking about banking on a 6th rounder, you can have a mid to late first round pick be a great QB no questions asked. You know that but you want to bash DG.
But if Darnold is too, then it was the wrong pick, plain and simple.
Sure, we could trade up again another year, but we could've solved the QB problem this year, in a strong class, without having to give up future assets.
It's a QB league
Webb looking horrific thursday night is concerning as well. DG made bets on Eli, Webb, and Darnold not being great. His tenure as Giants GM rides on those 3 bets
I agree 100%.
But if Darnold is too, then it was the wrong pick, plain and simple.
Sure, we could trade up again another year, but we could've solved the QB problem this year, in a strong class, without having to give up future assets.
It's a QB league
QB was the right pick at 2. Period
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that is great next year?
Without trading picks or players? Then DG is forgiven but that also means he was wrong about Eli and we have a top 5 pick
No it doesn't mean that. You can draft great QBs outside of the top 5. I'm not talking about banking on a 6th rounder, you can have a mid to late first round pick be a great QB no questions asked. You know that but you want to bash DG.
Ohh I see so a mid to late first rounder that will be great. Must not have been rated high in college to be late first rounder as a qb. But if we do take one late first then do you not think people and media will question why not take Darnold or a qb this past draft
So a late first round qb next year that we will hope we strike gold and SB this year will be a better chance than taking Darnold this year and a running back in later rounds.
Or here me out, this could be crazy
Darnold this year and that late first rounder next year could be an impact linebacker or DE
Sounds better to me than a RB with the second pick and a later first round qb next year that we must hope and pray is sent from above...
Ohh sorry sir...Please tell us what kind of post would be better for you to love football?
Rah Rah, all is good in Big Blue land and Eli has 10 more years and SB is a future HOF and Darnold is a bust because that is why DG passes on him.
Championship here we come
But if Darnold is too, then it was the wrong pick, plain and simple.
Sure, we could trade up again another year, but we could've solved the QB problem this year, in a strong class, without having to give up future assets.
It's a QB league
If this scenario played out, would it be the wrong pick if we won one or two superbowls with Barkley and the Jets didn't win any in that time period?
All water under the bridge now as it's all about Saquon.
It’s prettt much all the people who were in the “draft a QB” camp worrying or wanting to prematurely pay themselves on the back.
You know who else looked phenomenal last night? Teddy Bridgewater, on repaired knee after 2 years out of football. Big deal. Forget waiting until the season is over, can we at least wait until the preseason is over?
RE: Webb
The people burying him after Thursday night, would be the same people pumping the brakes if he put up a Unitas-esque performance that apparently some of these other guys did.
Just remember something as you watch the class of 2018. There were a lot of idiots along the way who tried to tell us the likes of Mark Sanchez, RGIII and Flacco were elite franchise QBs.
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Ohh sorry sir...Please tell us what kind of post would be better for you to love football?
Rah Rah, all is good in Big Blue land and Eli has 10 more years and SB is a future HOF and Darnold is a bust because that is why DG passes on him.
Championship here we come
why do you care if the giants win a championship? you said yourself all you care about is making the playoffs for the next 10 years
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that is great next year?
Without trading picks or players? Then DG is forgiven but that also means he was wrong about Eli and we have a top 5 pick
No it doesn't mean that. You can draft great QBs outside of the top 5. I'm not talking about banking on a 6th rounder, you can have a mid to late first round pick be a great QB no questions asked. You know that but you want to bash DG.
Ohh I see so a mid to late first rounder that will be great. Must not have been rated high in college to be late first rounder as a qb. But if we do take one late first then do you not think people and media will question why not take Darnold or a qb this past draft
So a late first round qb next year that we will hope we strike gold and SB this year will be a better chance than taking Darnold this year and a running back in later rounds.
Or here me out, this could be crazy
Darnold this year and that late first rounder next year could be an impact linebacker or DE
Sounds better to me than a RB with the second pick and a later first round qb next year that we must hope and pray is sent from above...
Yeah Barkley this year and a QB next year in the mid to late portion of the first round where we'll be hopefully drafting means you get a generational RB and likely a good QB prospect. Rather than a bit of a better QB prospect this year and someone who doesn't come close to Barkley next year.
Darnold will never be a Giant, so there’s no point in crying over spilled milk. Eli may very well have two or three years left and hopefully the Giants can pair possibly the kid from Stanford (or someone similar) with a competent oline, Barkley, and OBJ. The obvious caveat is that fans will have to be ok giving up likely 2-3 first round picks to get that guy. Whereas Darnold could have been had at 2 this year.
Webb is not the answer, as you all saw the other night and as those who watched him in college have been saying since last year. That’s ok though, there will be other top qbs and the Giants can get one if they so choose. Hopefully they do not need to cross this bridge until 2020 or 2021, because the 2019 draft will not feature a legit top 5 qb.
Darnold will never be a Giant, so there’s no point in crying over spilled milk. Eli may very well have two or three years left and hopefully the Giants can pair possibly the kid from Stanford (or someone similar) with a competent oline, Barkley, and OBJ. The obvious caveat is that fans will have to be ok giving up likely 2-3 first round picks to get that guy. Whereas Darnold could have been had at 2 this year.
Webb is not the answer, as you all saw the other night and as those who watched him in college have been saying since last year. That’s ok though, there will be other top qbs and the Giants can get one if they so choose. Hopefully they do not need to cross this bridge until 2020 or 2021, because the 2019 draft will not feature a legit top 5 qb.
We heard what a terrible draft 2017 was for QBs and now Watson is a God and Mahomes is the next big thing. I don't think it's a done deal that 2019 won't have a legit top 5 QB, unless you mean one worthy of a top 5 pick.
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Ohh sorry sir...Please tell us what kind of post would be better for you to love football?
Rah Rah, all is good in Big Blue land and Eli has 10 more years and SB is a future HOF and Darnold is a bust because that is why DG passes on him.
Championship here we come
I’ll never understand the mindset of a miserable fuck spending their existence being a whiny troll on an internet message board. you literally add nothing here. there’s plenty of posters who are pessimistic about the giants but have excellent conversations. you are a fucking troll and make continue to poison this board...
yet more quality posters will leave here and you’ll still be here. Sad.
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Looked good and I think is the exact type of qb you want in the modern nfl, can read a defense and is accurate. Most importantly he is mobile without being a run first qb. There will be other qbs like him in the 2020 and 2021 draft. I particularly like the kid from Stanford, who I think has Giants written all over him.
Darnold will never be a Giant, so there’s no point in crying over spilled milk. Eli may very well have two or three years left and hopefully the Giants can pair possibly the kid from Stanford (or someone similar) with a competent oline, Barkley, and OBJ. The obvious caveat is that fans will have to be ok giving up likely 2-3 first round picks to get that guy. Whereas Darnold could have been had at 2 this year.
Webb is not the answer, as you all saw the other night and as those who watched him in college have been saying since last year. That’s ok though, there will be other top qbs and the Giants can get one if they so choose. Hopefully they do not need to cross this bridge until 2020 or 2021, because the 2019 draft will not feature a legit top 5 qb.
We heard what a terrible draft 2017 was for QBs and now Watson is a God and Mahomes is the next big thing. I don't think it's a done deal that 2019 won't have a legit top 5 QB, unless you mean one worthy of a top 5 pick.
Thinking one more worthy of a top 5 pick. Things can change, but I don’t see 2019 being the year to make an investment in qb. 2020 and 2021 I think will feature potentially Costello, Lawrence, Fromm, Patterson, and maybe Grier(up in the air on that one).
In a 2 game stretch in 2010 against the Pats and Dolphins, in the REGULAR season, Sanchez threw for 6tds and 0 ints and had a qb rating of 122.
So basically you are full of shit. NTTAWTT
How does the bellyaching Giants fan calculus work out on that one?
And, it’s preseason
But even as that guy, it's still way too soon. It's one really good pre-season performance. So, let's relax.
(However, as a small side-note, if Webb had the same performance as Darnold last night, the same people poo-pooing Darnold's performance would be praising Webb. Or, if Dranold was a Giant, they'd also be putting Darnold over. Let's be honest).
Youre just a bomer and blindly root
This is it in a nutshell and it's amazing how many people don't get this.
In today's NFL, especially with a world-class WR already on the team... a very good QB (on par with Eli or Simms) teamed with a solid RB (similar to Bradshaw or Morris) will always be better than the best RB in the league teamed with the next Brown, Kanell or Graham.
(And I'm afraid that the later combo is where we're heading.)
Darnold might be great. He might suck. Who knows? DG thought Barkley was the best player in the draft & took him. Time will tell.
I'll reserve judgment on these guys (including Barkley) till they actually play some real games against real competition
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Ohh sorry sir...Please tell us what kind of post would be better for you to love football?
Rah Rah, all is good in Big Blue land and Eli has 10 more years and SB is a future HOF and Darnold is a bust because that is why DG passes on him.
Championship here we come
Because of cunts like you.
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Youre just a bomer and blindly root
Not gonna lie, no idea what any of that means.
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Ohh sorry sir...Please tell us what kind of post would be better for you to love football?
Rah Rah, all is good in Big Blue land and Eli has 10 more years and SB is a future HOF and Darnold is a bust because that is why DG passes on him.
Championship here we come
why do you care if the giants win a championship? you said yourself all you care about is making the playoffs for the next 10 years
How Darnold does is completely irrelevant to our success and to my own satisfaction. I wish him all the best in the world. But if Barkley truly is a HoF then I am more thane ecstatic and not just because we have a HoF player (which people apparently think is a trivial thing) but because a HoFer on this team with 2 other HoFers on offense, is absolutely a playoff team.
Prior to the draft, we heard the qb s were flawed. Now we re hearing it doesn't matter how they play.
Barkley could be a great player, still does equate to the impact of a franchise quarterback, if indeed that is what Darnold becomes.
The don t take a quarterback crowd are hedging their bets.
There were 0 plays made by Barkley this game that were any close to that one run. The run is significant because it showcased Barkley's talent. Only a handful RBs in the NFL can even make that play.
Exactly! The difference between going from preseason to the regular season is far bigger for a QB than an RB.
Prior to the draft, we heard the qb s were flawed. Now we re hearing it doesn't matter how they play.
Barkley could be a great player, still does equate to the impact of a franchise quarterback, if indeed that is what Darnold becomes.
The don t take a quarterback crowd are hedging their bets.
Yeah, we can start to have a realistic discussion on that in about 3-5 years. Not Day 2 after preseason game number 1.
Nobody is hedging their bets after a single preseason game, trust me. Nothing changed anybody's opinion yet. If anything, the opening snap further entrenched the don't take a QB crowd in their take, even validated it.
There are literally people here trying to dissect Barkley's 4 carries in a preaseason game, and coming to the conclusion somehow that it is a negative rather than a positive that he took the opening snap 40 yards from our own twelve yard line. Madness.
The truth is, the don't take a QB crowd has been ecstatic, and continue to be, while the "take a QB at all costs crowd" has not been able to come to grips with what happened since the night of the draft.
Because that's what it feels like you guys are setting us up for.
This is more of the same. Darnold is better and it means nothing that we drafted Barkley if we don't win a Superbowl blah blah blah
The bottom line is we drafted Barkley and did not draft any of the top quarterbacks for a variety of reasons.
Accorsi was not afraid to stake his name to Eli and gettleman was not afraid to stake his name to Barkley.
We will see how it all plays out, but the verdict is not going to be determined by one preseason game or even 1 season. Hell, we may not know for 10 years, but please continue on with the giants screwed up and and we will be in quarterback hell while the jets are celebrating Superbowl victories with Darnold.