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adamg : 8/12/2018 11:46 am
CF Hicks
DH Stanton
3B Andujar
SS Gregorius
2B Torres
1B Voit
RF Walker
C Romine
LF Gardner

And CC on the mound. Time for another series win.
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Another game,  
section125 : 8/12/2018 11:59 am : link
another batting order. Like Miggy up to 3..
Such is life without Judge or Sanchez  
rich in DC : 8/12/2018 12:06 pm : link
Boone has to mix and match. I don't understand all the moaning and groaning outside of one specific person who has a VERY pro-Girardi/anti-Boone agenda.

This team is 30 games over .500- yet if you read the Negative Nancies on this board on a daily basis, you would think they were 30 games under. Get a grip Nancies.
I have no idea why anyone cares  
UConn4523 : 8/12/2018 12:10 pm : link
about the lineup changing. Do you lose money on it?
More fun to gripe rich.  
section125 : 8/12/2018 12:11 pm : link
And I can bitch a good game. I hope they can keep Sanchez and Judge on the bench until 100% healthy. They are no worse than 2nd WC and likely no better than 1st WC.

I also think they should shut Frazier down for year and get him ready for next season. Those concussion symptoms will not go away without rest.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2018 12:13 pm : link
It's not a huge deal, I'm just not sure why he's moving players around so much. He has a different guy batting cleanup every day. Stanton in the 2 hole has been one of the only constants since Judge went down.

At least he trusts Walker in RF - seeing Robinson in the lineup every day was getting tough to stomach. Guy sucks and doesn't even look like a major league player.

I think Kyle said he looked like a guy that won a fan contest to travel with the team for a day or something... honestly made me laugh because of how dead on it was.

Anyway, let's start up another streak here.
RE: I have no idea why anyone cares  
section125 : 8/12/2018 12:13 pm : link
In comment 14037077 UConn4523 said:
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about the lineup changing. Do you lose money on it?


Players like a routine. The swings in the order are pretty dramatic day to day.
"Good News" - Walker was sick the other day he sat after the two HR night. So Boone's hand was forced.
RE: Such is life without Judge or Sanchez  
chopperhatch : 8/12/2018 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14037070 rich in DC said:
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Boone has to mix and match. I don't understand all the moaning and groaning outside of one specific person who has a VERY pro-Girardi/anti-Boone agenda.

This team is 30 games over .500- yet if you read the Negative Nancies on this board on a daily basis, you would think they were 30 games under. Get a grip Nancies.


I guess for me it just never made sense to juggle an order like this. Fine...we're missing 2 big bats. That doesnt mean the whole order should be shuffled game to game to me. Baseball players like familiarity and moving things around all the time just annoys me.

I for one have been complaining about the recent stretch of games because they've look uninspired on the field. But I have been encouraged by even the smallest of bright spots hoping they wpuld go on a tear. Here's to that.

Question: does Loasiga get vaulted back into the rotation when he returns from injury even if Lynn continues to pitch well?
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UConn4523 : 8/12/2018 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14037082 section125 said:
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about the lineup changing. Do you lose money on it?



Players like a routine. The swings in the order are pretty dramatic day to day.
"Good News" - Walker was sick the other day he sat after the two HR night. So Boone's hand was forced.


If that was the case I think he’d do it less. We can’t just assume he players don’t like it. Or, maybe Boone doesn’t want them comfortable in the traditional sense.

Hard to critique something like this, too many variables and personalities.
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section125 : 8/12/2018 12:29 pm : link
In comment 14037090 UConn4523 said:
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about the lineup changing. Do you lose money on it?



Players like a routine. The swings in the order are pretty dramatic day to day.
"Good News" - Walker was sick the other day he sat after the two HR night. So Boone's hand was forced.



If that was the case I think he’d do it less. We can’t just assume he players don’t like it. Or, maybe Boone doesn’t want them comfortable in the traditional sense.

Hard to critique something like this, too many variables and personalities.


If it didn't matter, why do most teams keep their lineups/batting order fairly static. Have you seen other teams move 5, 6, 7 players around day to day? Is it metrics?

He's squeaking out wins, so it shouldn't matter, should it?Does it make the opponent uncomfortable? I suppose after the 1st time thru the order, it does not matter.

But it gives us something to chew on.
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chopperhatch : 8/12/2018 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14037090 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 14037077 UConn4523 said:


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about the lineup changing. Do you lose money on it?



Players like a routine. The swings in the order are pretty dramatic day to day.
"Good News" - Walker was sick the other day he sat after the two HR night. So Boone's hand was forced.



If that was the case I think he’d do it less. We can’t just assume he players don’t like it. Or, maybe Boone doesn’t want them comfortable in the traditional sense.

Hard to critique something like this, too many variables and personalities.


I cant quote anybody, but I can almost guarantee players prefer to have a steady spot in the line up. You know whrn you're gonna bat inning wise. You gain a familiarity with the guys around you in the order... "If this guy gets on I need to take a few to let him try to steal." "The guy behind me is good with driving in runners so I just have to get on..."

I know when I played I liked batting in the same spot (although I always batted lead off, lol).
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HomerJones45 : 8/12/2018 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14037080 arcarsenal said:
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It's not a huge deal, I'm just not sure why he's moving players around so much. He has a different guy batting cleanup every day. Stanton in the 2 hole has been one of the only constants since Judge went down.

At least he trusts Walker in RF - seeing Robinson in the lineup every day was getting tough to stomach. Guy sucks and doesn't even look like a major league player.

I think Kyle said he looked like a guy that won a fan contest to travel with the team for a day or something... honestly made me laugh because of how dead on it was.

Anyway, let's start up another streak here.
Orders from the nerds. The lineup is based on matchups, park factors, splits etc.
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Kyle in NY : 8/12/2018 12:40 pm : link
In comment 14037080 arcarsenal said:
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It's not a huge deal, I'm just not sure why he's moving players around so much. He has a different guy batting cleanup every day. Stanton in the 2 hole has been one of the only constants since Judge went down.

At least he trusts Walker in RF - seeing Robinson in the lineup every day was getting tough to stomach. Guy sucks and doesn't even look like a major league player.

I think Kyle said he looked like a guy that won a fan contest to travel with the team for a day or something... honestly made me laugh because of how dead on it was.

Anyway, let's start up another streak here.


Haha yeah that was me. He also looks a lot like Cashman, maybe that’s what got him on the squad. Sugar Shane getting a rest today, he’s earned it
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2018 12:47 pm : link
It's the same deal - once again Luke Voit is playing because he's a right handed hitter and nothing else.

Greg Bird hit two doubles yesterday. Unless they want him to be a straight platoon player, keep him in there. He's going to have to learn to deal with lefties.

Sometimes you have to stop worrying so much about what the book says and just play your best players. Voit sucks and the Yankees are putting a lot of trust in Greg Bird to be their guy for the long-haul at 1B. If that's the case, these are days where he should be playing.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2018 12:48 pm : link
In comment 14037111 Kyle in NY said:
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It's not a huge deal, I'm just not sure why he's moving players around so much. He has a different guy batting cleanup every day. Stanton in the 2 hole has been one of the only constants since Judge went down.

At least he trusts Walker in RF - seeing Robinson in the lineup every day was getting tough to stomach. Guy sucks and doesn't even look like a major league player.

I think Kyle said he looked like a guy that won a fan contest to travel with the team for a day or something... honestly made me laugh because of how dead on it was.

Anyway, let's start up another streak here.



Haha yeah that was me. He also looks a lot like Cashman, maybe that’s what got him on the squad. Sugar Shane getting a rest today, he’s earned it


Haha, he does look like a crappy ballplayer version of Cashman. I've said that too.
Bird  
Kyle in NY : 8/12/2018 12:52 pm : link
should absolutely be playing today. Voit in the lineup does sort of feel like a call from the front office
RE: Bird  
section125 : 8/12/2018 12:53 pm : link
In comment 14037119 Kyle in NY said:
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should absolutely be playing today. Voit in the lineup does sort of feel like a call from the front office


Keep the theme alive. Bird had two doubles yesterday, so bench today.
I'd be shocked  
MookGiants : 8/12/2018 1:01 pm : link
if Cashman wasn't part of the lineup construction on a daily basis. Not saying he is the one that makes up the lineup every day, but i think he's part of the decision making process each day when it comes to the lineup.

He clearly wanted a puppet as a manager and someone who was completely analytics based.
Frankly  
adamg : 8/12/2018 1:03 pm : link
who gives a shit about a shifting lineup so long as they win? It doesn't seem to be having any detrimental impact on this team.
Nice range by  
dune69 : 8/12/2018 1:16 pm : link
Didi
Knock wood --  
section125 : 8/12/2018 1:16 pm : link
CC very sharp in the 1st. Even with a couple pitches that were obviously strikes were called balls.
He is in a zone  
adamg : 8/12/2018 1:21 pm : link
GIancarlo!
Soft contact  
section125 : 8/12/2018 1:21 pm : link
by Stanton.....1-0
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Eman11 : 8/12/2018 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14037101 chopperhatch said:
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about the lineup changing. Do you lose money on it?



Players like a routine. The swings in the order are pretty dramatic day to day.
"Good News" - Walker was sick the other day he sat after the two HR night. So Boone's hand was forced.



If that was the case I think he’d do it less. We can’t just assume he players don’t like it. Or, maybe Boone doesn’t want them comfortable in the traditional sense.

Hard to critique something like this, too many variables and personalities.



I cant quote anybody, but I can almost guarantee players prefer to have a steady spot in the line up. You know whrn you're gonna bat inning wise. You gain a familiarity with the guys around you in the order... "If this guy gets on I need to take a few to let him try to steal." "The guy behind me is good with driving in runners so I just have to get on..."

I know when I played I liked batting in the same spot (although I always batted lead off, lol).


Yeah chopper that's pretty much my take on it too.

I'd want the players to be as comfortable as possible so they can just play and not think too much. There's enough in game situations they have to think about, and if they don't have to think about how guys around them approach at bats, and instead just know from it being the same most of the time, then I think that's a good thing.

It's not a huge deal by any means but something I'm not crazy about.

I do like seeing Miggy moved up to 3rd today because he's earned that. I hope he grabs that spot by the throat and doesn't give it back just like he's done with his starting spot.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2018 1:23 pm : link
Giancarlo is en fuego. What a year he's having.
Anti-Yankees approach  
section125 : 8/12/2018 1:24 pm : link
to hitting today. Everyone hacking early and often.
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mfsd : 8/12/2018 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14037150 arcarsenal said:
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Giancarlo is en fuego. What a year he's having.


I don’t think it’s beyond the realm he gets to 50 again. Amazing how locked in he is
Stanton is fantastic!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/12/2018 1:35 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2018 1:36 pm : link
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Giancarlo is en fuego. What a year he's having.



I don’t think it’s beyond the realm he gets to 50 again. Amazing how locked in he is


Seems like he has been locked in ever since that walk off HR @ home back in May. Even the singles and doubles he's hitting are absolute ROCKETS. He's just murdering everything.
Romine should take charge on that play  
adamg : 8/12/2018 1:37 pm : link
CC isn't that nimble.
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Eman11 : 8/12/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14037166 arcarsenal said:
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Giancarlo is en fuego. What a year he's having.



I don’t think it’s beyond the realm he gets to 50 again. Amazing how locked in he is



Seems like he has been locked in ever since that walk off HR @ home back in May. Even the singles and doubles he's hitting are absolute ROCKETS. He's just murdering everything.


Singleton has been saying recently how Stanton is a huge routine guy and does things the same times and ways pretty much every day. He thought it was just a matter of time until he got comfortable being on a new team and all the changes that go along with it.

It sure looks like he's settled in and comfortable now and has got his routine down. Now he just goes out and does his thing.

He's been looking great for a while now, and has stepped up big time while Judge and Sanchez are out.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14037171 Eman11 said:
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Giancarlo is en fuego. What a year he's having.



I don’t think it’s beyond the realm he gets to 50 again. Amazing how locked in he is



Seems like he has been locked in ever since that walk off HR @ home back in May. Even the singles and doubles he's hitting are absolute ROCKETS. He's just murdering everything.



Singleton has been saying recently how Stanton is a huge routine guy and does things the same times and ways pretty much every day. He thought it was just a matter of time until he got comfortable being on a new team and all the changes that go along with it.

It sure looks like he's settled in and comfortable now and has got his routine down. Now he just goes out and does his thing.

He's been looking great for a while now, and has stepped up big time while Judge and Sanchez are out.


Ironically, he's the one who DOES seem to be left in the same lineup spot almost every day. He's been in the 2 hole pretty consistently since Judge went down and seems to be very comfortable there.
Hey Chopper  
MookGiants : 8/12/2018 1:49 pm : link
I should have said this earlier this week but wanted to apologize for my part of the argument we had last week. We both went over the line. I have been dealing with a lot of shit but still should control my emotions better. We all want the same thing, the Yanks to win, so no need to let it become personal. My apologies
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mfsd : 8/12/2018 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14037175 arcarsenal said:
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Giancarlo is en fuego. What a year he's having.



I don’t think it’s beyond the realm he gets to 50 again. Amazing how locked in he is



Seems like he has been locked in ever since that walk off HR @ home back in May. Even the singles and doubles he's hitting are absolute ROCKETS. He's just murdering everything.



Singleton has been saying recently how Stanton is a huge routine guy and does things the same times and ways pretty much every day. He thought it was just a matter of time until he got comfortable being on a new team and all the changes that go along with it.

It sure looks like he's settled in and comfortable now and has got his routine down. Now he just goes out and does his thing.

He's been looking great for a while now, and has stepped up big time while Judge and Sanchez are out.



Ironically, he's the one who DOES seem to be left in the same lineup spot almost every day. He's been in the 2 hole pretty consistently since Judge went down and seems to be very comfortable there.


Another note worth mentioning re: Stanton - as someone who’s been considered injury prone by some in his career (the fastball to the face was a freak injury), while he’s been DHing a lot due to a leg injury, he is still in the lineup every day, huge with Judge out.
Nice play by Voit  
adamg : 8/12/2018 2:13 pm : link
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Back to swinging early  
section125 : 8/12/2018 2:17 pm : link
and often....
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adamg : 8/12/2018 2:20 pm : link
In comment 14037196 section125 said:
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I think they like their chances against the SP more than the BP today, thus the lack of count working.
Didi is special in the field  
adamg : 8/12/2018 2:25 pm : link
Wow
RE: Didi is special in the field  
Eman11 : 8/12/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14037204 adamg said:
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Wow


Yeah, just a fantastic play all the way around there by him. Getting to the ball was the easiest part and that was no gimme. Getting up and making the throw as good and fast as he did without getting to settle himself was pretty incredible.
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section125 : 8/12/2018 2:30 pm : link
In comment 14037200 adamg said:
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I think they like their chances against the SP more than the BP today, thus the lack of count working.


Yeah, if they keep swinging early they'll never see the BP!

Great play by Didi..impressive spring up and throw.
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2018 2:34 pm : link
Hicksie!
that was a fine piece  
section125 : 8/12/2018 2:36 pm : link
of hitting by Hicks... just punch it to right..2 rbis.
Now the aggressiveness is paying off  
adamg : 8/12/2018 2:38 pm : link
We'll see that BP yet
Nice to score some insurance runs.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/12/2018 2:38 pm : link
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Didi!  
adamg : 8/12/2018 2:40 pm : link
That's more like it.
Didi!  
Eman11 : 8/12/2018 2:40 pm : link
Just like that they blow this one open. Heck of an offensive inning put together there.
Ok, big defensive play  
section125 : 8/12/2018 2:40 pm : link
and a big HR by Didi. 6-0
Need to get Torres  
section125 : 8/12/2018 2:42 pm : link
untracked....loves those high FBs.
Give Voit a save on that  
adamg : 8/12/2018 2:51 pm : link
Andujar struggling in the field today
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arcarsenal : 8/12/2018 2:52 pm : link
Miggy looks like he's got a small case of the yips throwing across the diamond.

Gotta love all the runs, though. This is what we should be doing against a crappy pitcher like Perez.
Andujar has fielding in his head.  
section125 : 8/12/2018 2:53 pm : link
Probably needs a day away from the field.

Great pick by Voit to save him and CC.
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