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NFT: MLB Game Thread - Mets @ Yankees - deGrom vs. Severino

adamg : 8/13/2018 4:06 pm
SS Rosario
RF Nimmo
LF Conforto
1B Flores
2B McNeil
3B Frazier
CF Jackson
DH Bautista
C Mesoraco

LF Gardner
DH Stanton
SS Gregorius
CF Hicks
3B Andujar
1B Bird
2B Torres
RF Walker
C Romine

And Sevy and deGrom on the mound. Let's go Yanks!
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Olbermann  
watertown : 8/13/2018 8:04 pm : link
Does anyone else find him annoying?
FIP and ERA should be weighed against each other IMO  
ZGiants98 : 8/13/2018 8:04 pm : link
Obviously, not allowing runs is a huge and will always matter but FIP is a better indicator of how well a pitcher is actually pitching. As mentioned... Runs allowed is really a team stat as there are other factors involved. But I really dont want to eat up a Mets/Yankees thread discussing this further.
RE: He’d miss 2 maybe 3 starts  
Eman11 : 8/13/2018 8:04 pm : link
In comment 14038464 Kyle in NY said:
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I’m not talking about shutting him down until October.


No, I get you didn't mean that. I just don't think they can even afford that.

If they think it is a fatigue issue I could see something like giving him an extra day before a start, but unless it's an arm issue, I think they keep running him out there because they need him.
Fair enough  
Kyle in NY : 8/13/2018 8:05 pm : link
agree to disagree
Nice quick inning there  
Kyle in NY : 8/13/2018 8:05 pm : link
Needed that. Slider getting sharper
RE: Fair enough  
Eman11 : 8/13/2018 8:08 pm : link
In comment 14038472 Kyle in NY said:
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agree to disagree


Haha, I was going to post exactly that at the end of my last post.

We're all fans of the same team and want the best for them. We just have different opinions on some things. No biggie.
Couple of real nice AB's there  
Eman11 : 8/13/2018 8:14 pm : link
We need to Pedro deGrom here. Keep it close, get his pitch count up, and get him out of the game as early as possible.
RE: Nice quick inning there  
arcarsenal : 8/13/2018 8:14 pm : link
In comment 14038473 Kyle in NY said:
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Needed that. Slider getting sharper


Oddly enough, it seemed to do the same in his last start too. Not sure why - it seems like he doesn't have a feel for it early in games and it's hanging.
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arcarsenal : 8/13/2018 8:15 pm : link
Aaron Hicks is the fucking man.
Oh for fuck's sake.  
bceagle05 : 8/13/2018 8:24 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 8/13/2018 8:24 pm : link
Again up in the zone. The long ball is killing Sevy.
time to put  
MookGiants : 8/13/2018 8:24 pm : link
Severino on the DL for a couple weeks and give him some rest. He's clearly slowing down and can use a couple starts off. This Mets lineup is one of the worst lineups I've ever seen and he can't even get them out
This guy needs a DL stint  
The_Boss : 8/13/2018 8:25 pm : link
If for nothing else, to rest.

You let 2 non hitters take you deep?
RE: .  
Eman11 : 8/13/2018 8:25 pm : link
In comment 14038485 arcarsenal said:
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Again up in the zone. The long ball is killing Sevy.


Not up near enough IMO. It looked to me to be right down the middle not even belt high.
Of all fucking people it had to be that scumbag  
Greg from LI : 8/13/2018 8:26 pm : link
Washed up piece of shit
Joey Bats  
dune69 : 8/13/2018 8:27 pm : link
F...
Can't put anyone away.  
bceagle05 : 8/13/2018 8:28 pm : link
94 pitches in 3 2/3 innings.
There is nobody you hand the ball to with confidence  
The_Boss : 8/13/2018 8:28 pm : link
On this entire staff right now. Starters or bullpen.

Severino won’t get through 5 tonight.
Rosario  
Rory : 8/13/2018 8:28 pm : link
with some nice ab's there.

Good to see
RE: Olbermann  
Percy : 8/13/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 14038469 watertown said:
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Does anyone else find him annoying?

Totally.
RE: RE: .  
Eman11 : 8/13/2018 8:30 pm : link
In comment 14038488 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14038485 arcarsenal said:


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Again up in the zone. The long ball is killing Sevy.



Not up near enough IMO. It looked to me to be right down the middle not even belt high.


Well after another look it did appear to be about belt high but still not up near enough. That one he can handle but up higher he can't.
Is he tipping pitches? Or, has he reverted to how he started 2016?  
LarmerTJR : 8/13/2018 8:30 pm : link
This version of Joey Bats tales one of his only nasty sliders and crushed a 100 on the black. Tipping pitches?

Or is the this the raw stuff and no command Sevy that started 2016 like garabage and lost his rotation spot?

They need to figure it out now, because this line the Mets trotted our sucks ass, yet, it’s 4-2
Re: There is nobody you hand the ball to with confidence  
GruningsOnTheHill : 8/13/2018 8:30 pm : link
Dellin Betances, surprisingly enough, says hello.
Enough with Bird too  
The_Boss : 8/13/2018 8:33 pm : link
It’s entirely possible he just sucks.
RE: RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 8/13/2018 8:34 pm : link
In comment 14038502 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14038488 Eman11 said:


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In comment 14038485 arcarsenal said:


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Again up in the zone. The long ball is killing Sevy.



Not up near enough IMO. It looked to me to be right down the middle not even belt high.



Well after another look it did appear to be about belt high but still not up near enough. That one he can handle but up higher he can't.


Trying to work and watch at the same time, I thought that pitch was supposed to be lower and he left it too high - maybe Romine was calling for up and out of the zone in which case, yeah, not high enough. Right at the sweet spot of the barrel.
RE: Is he tipping pitches? Or, has he reverted to how he started 2016?  
BigBlue4You09 : 8/13/2018 8:35 pm : link
In comment 14038504 LarmerTJR said:
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This version of Joey Bats tales one of his only nasty sliders and crushed a 100 on the black. Tipping pitches?

Or is the this the raw stuff and no command Sevy that started 2016 like garabage and lost his rotation spot?

They need to figure it out now, because this line the Mets trotted our sucks ass, yet, it’s 4-2


No they already addressed that. It has to be fatigue. The Sox did it with Sale. What’s the point in continuing to run him out there? The division is gone and even if it wasn’t he’s not effective period. This isn’t just l one or two bad starts. Something is wrong.
Broken bat single  
section125 : 8/13/2018 8:40 pm : link
thru the shift.
Horrific call  
Knineteen : 8/13/2018 8:47 pm : link
There wasn't any conclusive shot showing the tag was applied.

Embarrassing.
RE: Horrific call  
Rory : 8/13/2018 8:51 pm : link
In comment 14038515 Knineteen said:
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There wasn't any conclusive shot showing the tag was applied.

Embarrassing.


Agree, awful
thor  
Rory : 8/13/2018 8:56 pm : link
is pretty funny with the mic lol
Didi is in a nice groove  
DC Gmen Fan : 8/13/2018 8:57 pm : link
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RE: RE: Horrific call  
BigBlueShock : 8/13/2018 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14038517 Rory said:
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In comment 14038515 Knineteen said:


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There wasn't any conclusive shot showing the tag was applied.

Embarrassing.



Agree, awful

Oh come on now. It absolutely was conclusive. He had the tag on Conforto left leg. Just because the incompetent announcers were looking at the arm and not the left leg doesn’t make it fact. He had the tag on when the foot popped up.

Now, if you want to say that the call is absurd because it’s not the intent of replay, I’d agree with you. This crap has gotten ridiculous. Plays like that are certainly not what replay was intended for, but, here were I guess. I agree the call was terrible, but different reasons I guess...
Bird  
Marty866b : 8/13/2018 8:59 pm : link
Might be the worst starting first baseman for the Yankees in decades. Can't hit a good fastball consistently and is still susceptible to the slider down. How long can the Yankees afford to wait on him? He'a 2.15 or so lifetime hitter with over 500 at bats. At this juncture, he's the worst hitter in this lineup and should be batting 9th. Cannot believe that Boone had him in the cleanup spot and 5th so often this season.
Severino has fallen off a cliff  
xman : 8/13/2018 8:59 pm : link
hope he returns and didn't fake us out like Ubaldo Jimenez 2010
WTF  
Beer Man : 8/13/2018 9:00 pm : link
was Hicks doing on that third strike?
Didi comes thru  
section125 : 8/13/2018 9:01 pm : link
again.. deGrom up over 90 pitches.

And I suppose Hicks asked for time and it wasn't given. And I don't have a problem with it. Too many times the pitchers starts and the ump gives the time call/...
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arcarsenal : 8/13/2018 9:03 pm : link
AJ Cole is falling apart. His ERA has ballooned these last few weeks.
Well done Cole,  
section125 : 8/13/2018 9:04 pm : link
well done.
That’s the spot  
Kyle in NY : 8/13/2018 9:05 pm : link
where Warren would be. Don’t mean to keep harping on it, but that truly made no sense
Cole  
MookGiants : 8/13/2018 9:05 pm : link
needs to be DFA'd. Getting hit by total scrubs is fucking annoying.
Ok, can we stop using Cole in close games again now?  
Greg from LI : 8/13/2018 9:05 pm : link
I think he's proven at this point that his great numbers were a fluke.
RE: RE: RE: Horrific call  
Eman11 : 8/13/2018 9:08 pm : link
In comment 14038522 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 14038517 Rory said:


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In comment 14038515 Knineteen said:


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There wasn't any conclusive shot showing the tag was applied.

Embarrassing.



Agree, awful


Oh come on now. It absolutely was conclusive. He had the tag on Conforto left leg. Just because the incompetent announcers were looking at the arm and not the left leg doesn’t make it fact. He had the tag on when the foot popped up.

Now, if you want to say that the call is absurd because it’s not the intent of replay, I’d agree with you. This crap has gotten ridiculous. Plays like that are certainly not what replay was intended for, but, here were I guess. I agree the call was terrible, but different reasons I guess...


I agree with you all around there Big Blue.

Gleyber is real good with the tags and I thought he did keep the tag on the leg.

I don't like the ticky tack use of replay there either, and I can't imagine that's the type of thing they intended when putting replay in. Unfortunately now that it's here, we're going to keep getting those types of calls.
deGrom probably gone  
section125 : 8/13/2018 9:10 pm : link
after this inning as he is at 91 or 92 pitches as long as they don't go 1st ball swinging.
Another banner night for the Birdman.  
bceagle05 : 8/13/2018 9:14 pm : link
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Gleyber's lost, too.  
bceagle05 : 8/13/2018 9:16 pm : link
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Torres too  
section125 : 8/13/2018 9:16 pm : link
...deGrom will get another inning because of quick outs...
Boone is a moron.  
section125 : 8/13/2018 9:21 pm : link
Absolute moron....Cole gets crushed by lefties and jerko leaves him in....
Cole is useless trash  
BigBlue4You09 : 8/13/2018 9:22 pm : link
DFA after the game
This entire staff is in shambles  
The_Boss : 8/13/2018 9:22 pm : link
Everyone is horseshit
Down 1 run in the 6th  
bigbluehoya : 8/13/2018 9:22 pm : link
Is not the kind of meaningless mop up duty that Cole should be used for.

This was stupid.
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