And you’d still cut him right now. Amazing. The stubbornness is unparalleled.
You're the dipshit that bumped the thread. I'm not the stubborn one.
Oh yeah. You aren’t stubborn at all. How many times did you say Beckham was an asshole or harp on any of the other obsessive sticking points you’ve had over the years?
Cmon dude. You’re at the point now where you’re trying to frame mechanics being more important than results. Think about that. You want to cut a QB who was just drafted last year after his best preseason showing because you care that much about being right.
I actually like the back and forths we have because we basically agree on nothing. I’m definitely stubborn sometimes. But when I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it. Not sure I can say the same for you, bud.
is a lot of good QBs have below average mechanics, or downright terrible mechanics. Rivers is at the top of that list, to an extent Stafford as well. Then you have the 2018 class led by Darnold has a very long, awkward wind up and realease (saw it yesterday on several occasions), even your favorite, Lamar Jackson, has poor mechanics (throws off his front leg and winds up like he’s throwing a baseball).
This is the deal with college football now and it’s the job of guys like Shurmur to break players out of bad habits, harness what’s good, and try to put together a more polished final product. It’s called professional coaching.
So when I see reports of Davis Webb’s poor mechanics from his college days, I pretty much don’t give a shit. If Shurmur can correct some of it, even just a moderate amount, it could lead to promising results.
From a raw talent standpoint, huge arm, big body, not terribly mobile and so-so release. Similar hitch in his throw; when off his elbow drops and starts missing high. Looked great last night, hope he can continue to progress.
Bottom line is Webb showed progress. The throw to Shepard on 3rd and 19 or whatever it was, was a great fucking throw. He dropped that right in the bucket. That's not an easy throw to make. I care about results much more than I care about mechanics.
Last night was very positive for the QBs. Lauletta sailed a few throws and was a little off at times but he also again flashed and I really don't think the arm strength is going to be a problem. Loved the TD run. Eli hasn't been able to move anything like that in about a decade so it was kind of fun to see a Giants QB make a play with his legs.
Preseason is preseason but I think sometimes the results matter more for teams in certain situations and I think this team really needed to win a game like this and put some points on the board. It was important to have something positive to build on. I'm happy with what I saw last night and think it was a step in the right direction.
this good or when all of the QBs all performed well in the same pre-season game. It was a good feel game, and one that was way past due for this offense. Very happy for Webb and Lauletta. The touch on the 3rd and 17 pass from Webb was perfect. The accuracy on the 40 yard bomb was perfectly placed where only the WR could catch it. *If* this is the real Davis Webb and he continues to progress (big if, I know), it would be awesome because then we wouldn't have to spend any future draft picks on QBs. Still a big if, though, I know.
And the question is how much tolerance for inconsistency at the QB position can Giants fans have?
I hope we remember Eli's legacy, which we should all treasure, and was marked by consistency as a pro even though the results on the field were regularly inconsistent.
was that his mechanics and stats relly sucked during his rookie year. 55.4 passer rating, and he threw high or into the ground, often off his back foot, all year. Our world class "expert" here, whom I will not name, knows for a fact that Webb won't get any better--although he surely looked better this week, and is coming off a season where he never saw the field.
Will he be a quality pro quarterback? Dunno, but there is at least evidence that he has a shot, after a nice game two. Claiming that he can't improve from here seems more than a little crazy, imo.
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And you’d still cut him right now. Amazing. The stubbornness is unparalleled.
You're the dipshit that bumped the thread. I'm not the stubborn one.
Oh yeah. You aren’t stubborn at all. How many times did you say Beckham was an asshole or harp on any of the other obsessive sticking points you’ve had over the years?
Cmon dude. You’re at the point now where you’re trying to frame mechanics being more important than results. Think about that. You want to cut a QB who was just drafted last year after his best preseason showing because you care that much about being right.
I actually like the back and forths we have because we basically agree on nothing. I’m definitely stubborn sometimes. But when I am wrong, I have no problem admitting it. Not sure I can say the same for you, bud.
This is the deal with college football now and it’s the job of guys like Shurmur to break players out of bad habits, harness what’s good, and try to put together a more polished final product. It’s called professional coaching.
So when I see reports of Davis Webb’s poor mechanics from his college days, I pretty much don’t give a shit. If Shurmur can correct some of it, even just a moderate amount, it could lead to promising results.
Lauletta looks much smoother and natural.
Still pretty early but I’m enjoying this competition. It was one of the things I was most looking forward to all offseason.
Last night was very positive for the QBs. Lauletta sailed a few throws and was a little off at times but he also again flashed and I really don't think the arm strength is going to be a problem. Loved the TD run. Eli hasn't been able to move anything like that in about a decade so it was kind of fun to see a Giants QB make a play with his legs.
Preseason is preseason but I think sometimes the results matter more for teams in certain situations and I think this team really needed to win a game like this and put some points on the board. It was important to have something positive to build on. I'm happy with what I saw last night and think it was a step in the right direction.
Throw those guys into the mix and I'd think that opens things up quite a bit more.
14 yard TD run, Week 4. First rushing TD of for the Giants last season and longest run from scrimmage up to that point - ( New Window )
I hope we remember Eli's legacy, which we should all treasure, and was marked by consistency as a pro even though the results on the field were regularly inconsistent.
Will he be a quality pro quarterback? Dunno, but there is at least evidence that he has a shot, after a nice game two. Claiming that he can't improve from here seems more than a little crazy, imo.