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robbieballs2003 : 8/15/2018 11:46 am
I have a quick question about Yahoo. I have my draft tonight and with it being before week 2 of the preseason we all run the risk of injuries. Does Yahoo allow you to not draft a kicker or defense? I am pretty sure I don't have to draft a K or DEF but I want to be sure since our draft is a live draft and the commissioner will be putting the picks in after. I'd rather roster 2 positional players with upside over a kicker or defense for now.
Not sure if it can be changed via league settings  
Sonic Youth : 8/15/2018 11:53 am : link
but I'm pretty sure you can draft without a D or K.
even if your league has a roster spot for a K and/or a DEF...  
Mike in St. Louis : 8/15/2018 11:55 am : link
you can still choose not to draft one...
In my baseball league there are no issues if  
robbieballs2003 : 8/15/2018 11:56 am : link
I didn't have a catcher in last year due to a late injury.

In CBS, they have minimums. In Yahoo, I don't think it matters. I am just looking for confirmation as I couldn't find it online.
Thanks  
robbieballs2003 : 8/15/2018 11:58 am : link
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If you don't draft a K or D  
YAJ2112 : 8/15/2018 12:07 pm : link
you will get killed in your draft grade though!
RE: If you don't draft a K or D  
robbieballs2003 : 8/15/2018 12:12 pm : link
In comment 14039698 YAJ2112 said:
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you will get killed in your draft grade though!


Haha. I just did a few mocks. I am doing them from different positions as we don't know the draft order yet. Every time I wait on RB I get killed with what is left. If I go RB early I end up with an abundance. My last draft I ended up with

DJ
MCaffrey
Mixon
McCoy
Ajayi
Duke Johnson

The rest of my team was questionable but my RBs were stacked. Haha.
Keeper Question....  
BleedingBlue2 : 8/15/2018 12:25 pm : link
12 team league, .5 PPR, 10th pick.

Here are my keeper options:

- Marlon Mack for a 14th Pick
- Stefan Diggs for a 3rd Pick
- Corey Davis for a 9th Pick
- Jacksonville D for a 16th Pick

I was originally leaning towards Mack + Davis, but I have sine starting trending towards Davis & Diggs. I threw in the wildcard of actually keeping a defense since i would only be giving up a last round pick. Thoughts?
RE: Keeper Question....  
YAJ2112 : 8/15/2018 12:29 pm : link
In comment 14039726 BleedingBlue2 said:
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12 team league, .5 PPR, 10th pick.

Here are my keeper options:

- Marlon Mack for a 14th Pick
- Stefan Diggs for a 3rd Pick
- Corey Davis for a 9th Pick
- Jacksonville D for a 16th Pick

I was originally leaning towards Mack + Davis, but I have sine starting trending towards Davis & Diggs. I threw in the wildcard of actually keeping a defense since i would only be giving up a last round pick. Thoughts?


I'd probably go Diggs and Jax.
RE: Keeper Question....  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2018 12:38 pm : link
In comment 14039726 BleedingBlue2 said:
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12 team league, .5 PPR, 10th pick.

Here are my keeper options:

- Marlon Mack for a 14th Pick
- Stefan Diggs for a 3rd Pick
- Corey Davis for a 9th Pick
- Jacksonville D for a 16th Pick

I was originally leaning towards Mack + Davis, but I have sine starting trending towards Davis & Diggs. I threw in the wildcard of actually keeping a defense since i would only be giving up a last round pick. Thoughts?


I would go Diggs/Davis - I really like Corey Davis this year.

I'm not a big believer in Mack just yet and think that Hines is already starting to steal some of his thunder.

JAX is a pretty good option for a 16th, too. I'd say either Davis or JAX.

I'm not sure you gain a ton of value with Diggs since the 3rd round isn't that far off his actual ADP, but he's the surest thing by far out of the 3 offensive players.
if you get saquon with your first pick  
nygiants16 : 8/15/2018 1:12 pm : link
beckham happens to be there with your 2nd you taking him?
RE: if you get saquon with your first pick  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2018 1:22 pm : link
In comment 14039780 nygiants16 said:
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beckham happens to be there with your 2nd you taking him?


Without a doubt if he's healthy. If Beckham drops to 13 or > he's a steal.

PPR Keeper league  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2018 1:28 pm : link
keeping Beckham and M. Thomas, who do you take at 7 among:

AJ Green (unlikely)
McCoy (unlikely)
McCaffrey
Freeman
Gronk
Evans
Fitz
Hilton
Kelce
Ertz
Tyreek Hill

Really 7 and 15.


I was thinking McCaffrey or Freeman at #7 and Kelce or Ertz at #15.

What do you say?

Also, I traded away my 3rd and 6th round picks, used my 4th and 5th on keepers so I won't pick again until the 7th round. so this is basically my team.

Sometimes the settings have  
EricJ : 8/15/2018 1:29 pm : link
maximum # of guys you can have at a particular position. This should be lifted too otherwise you may run into a maximum problem for a RB or WR in round 14
RE: Keeper Question....  
allstarjim : 8/15/2018 1:56 pm : link
In comment 14039726 BleedingBlue2 said:
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12 team league, .5 PPR, 10th pick.

Here are my keeper options:

- Marlon Mack for a 14th Pick
- Stefan Diggs for a 3rd Pick
- Corey Davis for a 9th Pick
- Jacksonville D for a 16th Pick

I was originally leaning towards Mack + Davis, but I have sine starting trending towards Davis & Diggs. I threw in the wildcard of actually keeping a defense since i would only be giving up a last round pick. Thoughts?


Diggs is around a 4th round ADP in standard or PPR. I would under no circumstance sacrifice a pick in the 20's for Diggs. You can get at least as good a receiver there. Think about where TY Hilton will go...Hilton should go before Diggs and will likely go in the third round of your draft. Mike Evans is even a third round ADP in drafts from my research. Diggs is solidly a fourth round value, don't make the mistake of keeping Diggs at a 3rd round cost. It's an overpay, even considering others are going to keep players that would go before Diggs.

I would go Mack and Jax DEF, honestly. I know, JAX D isn't an exciting keeper, but it's at virtually no cost and offers you a weekly positional advantage, and that has very good value. Then you have much more draft freedom in picking strong sleeper picks without having to worry about where you are going to get a good defense...you already have a very strong one.

Mack is a strong breakout candidate and the price is right.
RE: RE: Keeper Question....  
YAJ2112 : 8/15/2018 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14039838 allstarjim said:
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12 team league, .5 PPR, 10th pick.

Here are my keeper options:

- Marlon Mack for a 14th Pick
- Stefan Diggs for a 3rd Pick
- Corey Davis for a 9th Pick
- Jacksonville D for a 16th Pick

I was originally leaning towards Mack + Davis, but I have sine starting trending towards Davis & Diggs. I threw in the wildcard of actually keeping a defense since i would only be giving up a last round pick. Thoughts?



Diggs is around a 4th round ADP in standard or PPR. I would under no circumstance sacrifice a pick in the 20's for Diggs. You can get at least as good a receiver there. Think about where TY Hilton will go...Hilton should go before Diggs and will likely go in the third round of your draft. Mike Evans is even a third round ADP in drafts from my research. Diggs is solidly a fourth round value, don't make the mistake of keeping Diggs at a 3rd round cost. It's an overpay, even considering others are going to keep players that would go before Diggs.

I would go Mack and Jax DEF, honestly. I know, JAX D isn't an exciting keeper, but it's at virtually no cost and offers you a weekly positional advantage, and that has very good value. Then you have much more draft freedom in picking strong sleeper picks without having to worry about where you are going to get a good defense...you already have a very strong one.

Mack is a strong breakout candidate and the price is right.


He'd be giving up pick 34 for Diggs (10th pick of 3rd round). Diggs' ADP in a .5PPR is 31 per Fantasy Pros. He's been going earlier than that in all of the PPR drafts I've done.
RE: RE: if you get saquon with your first pick  
nygiants16 : 8/15/2018 2:01 pm : link
In comment 14039792 pjcas18 said:
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beckham happens to be there with your 2nd you taking him?



Without a doubt if he's healthy. If Beckham drops to 13 or > he's a steal.


my only thinking is would beckham and barkley work against each other but yeah you are probably right you cant pass that up
RE: RE: RE: Keeper Question....  
allstarjim : 8/15/2018 3:12 pm : link
In comment 14039840 YAJ2112 said:
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12 team league, .5 PPR, 10th pick.

Here are my keeper options:

- Marlon Mack for a 14th Pick
- Stefan Diggs for a 3rd Pick
- Corey Davis for a 9th Pick
- Jacksonville D for a 16th Pick

I was originally leaning towards Mack + Davis, but I have sine starting trending towards Davis & Diggs. I threw in the wildcard of actually keeping a defense since i would only be giving up a last round pick. Thoughts?



Diggs is around a 4th round ADP in standard or PPR. I would under no circumstance sacrifice a pick in the 20's for Diggs. You can get at least as good a receiver there. Think about where TY Hilton will go...Hilton should go before Diggs and will likely go in the third round of your draft. Mike Evans is even a third round ADP in drafts from my research. Diggs is solidly a fourth round value, don't make the mistake of keeping Diggs at a 3rd round cost. It's an overpay, even considering others are going to keep players that would go before Diggs.

I would go Mack and Jax DEF, honestly. I know, JAX D isn't an exciting keeper, but it's at virtually no cost and offers you a weekly positional advantage, and that has very good value. Then you have much more draft freedom in picking strong sleeper picks without having to worry about where you are going to get a good defense...you already have a very strong one.

Mack is a strong breakout candidate and the price is right.



He'd be giving up pick 34 for Diggs (10th pick of 3rd round). Diggs' ADP in a .5PPR is 31 per Fantasy Pros. He's been going earlier than that in all of the PPR drafts I've done.


I missed where he said it is a 12 team league, and I assumed 10-team, my mistake. That said, I still would consider holding my third rounder. I think it would make sense for you to do an analysis of predicted keepers and to see where your actual pick would fall given that it is likely your opponents will forgo picks ahead of you to keep specific players, and then try to determine what group of players would be likely available to you at that pick to see if truly the value is there to retain Diggs. It may be close. I'd probably still do the JAX DEF because I value that 3rd rounder and I don't think Diggs is ENOUGH of a fantasy producer to eliminate my choice of picks in the third round...and you still have a good chance to get a stud there in the third, even with a good number of keepers off the board. It's a close one, I would just do the analysis, predicted keepers and let that guide your decision...no easy shortcut in that scenario, IMO.
RE: if you get saquon with your first pick  
Mike from SI : 8/15/2018 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14039780 nygiants16 said:
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beckham happens to be there with your 2nd you taking him?


My personal preference is not to take too many Giants so that my fantasy team can be good even if my real team sucks. From a pure fantasy perspective, it's fine, but you're going to have several boom/bust weeks based on how the team does.
RE: PPR Keeper league  
allstarjim : 8/15/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14039799 pjcas18 said:
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keeping Beckham and M. Thomas, who do you take at 7 among:

AJ Green (unlikely)
McCoy (unlikely)
McCaffrey
Freeman
Gronk
Evans
Fitz
Hilton
Kelce
Ertz
Tyreek Hill

Really 7 and 15.


I was thinking McCaffrey or Freeman at #7 and Kelce or Ertz at #15.

What do you say?

Also, I traded away my 3rd and 6th round picks, used my 4th and 5th on keepers so I won't pick again until the 7th round. so this is basically my team.


I would take McCaffrey, and it's not close. McCaffrey had 80 catches on 113 targets last year, AS A ROOKIE, and they want to expand his role. I think he's a huge value get for his ADP, especially in PPR leagues. I know they got C.J. Anderson, I'm not that concerned. Yes, you are going to sacrifice some TD's at the goal line with Anderson and Newton, but I think McCaffrey's upside is way worth it. He only had 117 carries last year, and I expect that to double, with similar receiving numbers. He finished as the 10th highest scoring PPR RB as a rookie, and you have to believe that with increased work I think you are looking at around 1500 total yards for him this season, and I think he's going to get 7 or 8 TDs at least. I think conservatively, if he gets the kind of work expected, he's going to be somewhere around the 6th to 8th top producing RB's in fantasy football this year, and he could outperform that if he gets any goal line work at all.
btw pjcas  
allstarjim : 8/15/2018 3:32 pm : link
at #15 I really love Hilton this year. Kelce or Ertz are good choices as well. I just think with Luck back he's going to be back to an 80-95+ catch season with 1300+ yards and around 9 or 10 scores.

I think if you wait another round for TE you may still get Ertz if you are lucky but Greg Olsen is a good fallback, or you could take Engram if the spot is right...and I expect a big year from Engram.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Keeper Question....  
YAJ2112 : 8/15/2018 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14039920 allstarjim said:
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12 team league, .5 PPR, 10th pick.

Here are my keeper options:

- Marlon Mack for a 14th Pick
- Stefan Diggs for a 3rd Pick
- Corey Davis for a 9th Pick
- Jacksonville D for a 16th Pick

I was originally leaning towards Mack + Davis, but I have sine starting trending towards Davis & Diggs. I threw in the wildcard of actually keeping a defense since i would only be giving up a last round pick. Thoughts?



Diggs is around a 4th round ADP in standard or PPR. I would under no circumstance sacrifice a pick in the 20's for Diggs. You can get at least as good a receiver there. Think about where TY Hilton will go...Hilton should go before Diggs and will likely go in the third round of your draft. Mike Evans is even a third round ADP in drafts from my research. Diggs is solidly a fourth round value, don't make the mistake of keeping Diggs at a 3rd round cost. It's an overpay, even considering others are going to keep players that would go before Diggs.

I would go Mack and Jax DEF, honestly. I know, JAX D isn't an exciting keeper, but it's at virtually no cost and offers you a weekly positional advantage, and that has very good value. Then you have much more draft freedom in picking strong sleeper picks without having to worry about where you are going to get a good defense...you already have a very strong one.

Mack is a strong breakout candidate and the price is right.



He'd be giving up pick 34 for Diggs (10th pick of 3rd round). Diggs' ADP in a .5PPR is 31 per Fantasy Pros. He's been going earlier than that in all of the PPR drafts I've done.



I missed where he said it is a 12 team league, and I assumed 10-team, my mistake. That said, I still would consider holding my third rounder. I think it would make sense for you to do an analysis of predicted keepers and to see where your actual pick would fall given that it is likely your opponents will forgo picks ahead of you to keep specific players, and then try to determine what group of players would be likely available to you at that pick to see if truly the value is there to retain Diggs. It may be close. I'd probably still do the JAX DEF because I value that 3rd rounder and I don't think Diggs is ENOUGH of a fantasy producer to eliminate my choice of picks in the third round...and you still have a good chance to get a stud there in the third, even with a good number of keepers off the board. It's a close one, I would just do the analysis, predicted keepers and let that guide your decision...no easy shortcut in that scenario, IMO.


I'd have to know what your definition of a stud is. I don't think there are close to 34 of them this year, and there would likely be less in this scenario with the keepers. Diggs is right there with the players that might be available at 34.

I do agree on doing that legwork, and will certainly concede that Diggs isn't a slam dunk choice. I also think there's a decent chance he could do worse at 34 in this particular league. I'm just not sold enough on Davis or Mack to want to keep them over Diggs.
RE: btw pjcas  
YAJ2112 : 8/15/2018 4:05 pm : link
In comment 14039930 allstarjim said:
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at #15 I really love Hilton this year. Kelce or Ertz are good choices as well. I just think with Luck back he's going to be back to an 80-95+ catch season with 1300+ yards and around 9 or 10 scores.

I think if you wait another round for TE you may still get Ertz if you are lucky but Greg Olsen is a good fallback, or you could take Engram if the spot is right...and I expect a big year from Engram.


I'd go McCaffrey and Hilton as well. I'm still a little leery of McCaffrey holding up to a big workload and the OL is a little scary. But I've been warming up to the possibility and actually found myself disappointed that he went right before my pick last night in the late 2nd round.
RE: RE: if you get saquon with your first pick  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14039925 Mike from SI said:
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beckham happens to be there with your 2nd you taking him?



My personal preference is not to take too many Giants so that my fantasy team can be good even if my real team sucks. From a pure fantasy perspective, it's fine, but you're going to have several boom/bust weeks based on how the team does.


I agree with that in theory, but how do you pass up Beckham at (worst case) #13?

I doubt he has this dilemman since I doubt Beckham makes it to #13.
RE: RE: btw pjcas  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2018 4:35 pm : link
In comment 14039958 YAJ2112 said:
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at #15 I really love Hilton this year. Kelce or Ertz are good choices as well. I just think with Luck back he's going to be back to an 80-95+ catch season with 1300+ yards and around 9 or 10 scores.

I think if you wait another round for TE you may still get Ertz if you are lucky but Greg Olsen is a good fallback, or you could take Engram if the spot is right...and I expect a big year from Engram.



I'd go McCaffrey and Hilton as well. I'm still a little leery of McCaffrey holding up to a big workload and the OL is a little scary. But I've been warming up to the possibility and actually found myself disappointed that he went right before my pick last night in the late 2nd round.



Thanks YAJ and ASJ, and I too was leery of McCaffrey as my #1 back, but in PPR I think he'll have a low floor. He'll catch 5+ passes probably every week. I like Hilton too if he is still there at 15.

My problem is my traded picks, so I keep Beckham and Thomas and say I draft McCaffrey and Hilton I don't pick again until round 7 which in a keeper league is really like round 9.

So that's basically the team I can count on plus QB.

hoping to get Watson in the 7th.

I can go with

Beckham
Thomas
Hilton
McCaffrey
Watson/Luck

and fill in
I mean  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2018 4:40 pm : link
a high floor for McCaffrey
RE: RE: PPR Keeper league  
WillVAB : 8/15/2018 5:19 pm : link
In comment 14039928 allstarjim said:
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keeping Beckham and M. Thomas, who do you take at 7 among:

AJ Green (unlikely)
McCoy (unlikely)
McCaffrey
Freeman
Gronk
Evans
Fitz
Hilton
Kelce
Ertz
Tyreek Hill

Really 7 and 15.


I was thinking McCaffrey or Freeman at #7 and Kelce or Ertz at #15.

What do you say?

Also, I traded away my 3rd and 6th round picks, used my 4th and 5th on keepers so I won't pick again until the 7th round. so this is basically my team.




I would take McCaffrey, and it's not close. McCaffrey had 80 catches on 113 targets last year, AS A ROOKIE, and they want to expand his role. I think he's a huge value get for his ADP, especially in PPR leagues. I know they got C.J. Anderson, I'm not that concerned. Yes, you are going to sacrifice some TD's at the goal line with Anderson and Newton, but I think McCaffrey's upside is way worth it. He only had 117 carries last year, and I expect that to double, with similar receiving numbers. He finished as the 10th highest scoring PPR RB as a rookie, and you have to believe that with increased work I think you are looking at around 1500 total yards for him this season, and I think he's going to get 7 or 8 TDs at least. I think conservatively, if he gets the kind of work expected, he's going to be somewhere around the 6th to 8th top producing RB's in fantasy football this year, and he could outperform that if he gets any goal line work at all.


Disagree. Mcaffrey was terrible running the football last year and the OL is exponentially worse with the loss of Norwell and Williams.

That said, you really dont have a choice unless you want to roll the entire season on RB fliers.

Mcaffrey does have a substantial amount of value as a receiver and I think CAR will be playing from behind a lot this year. PPR gives you a safe floor w him even if he only rushed for 500 yards on the season.

Hilton should have a good year if Luck plays. Hes a high variance receiver so hes going to piss you off week to week, but hell also win you some weeks with his ceiling.

Add another one for Mcaffrey/Hilton. Then hammer RBs with upside/opportunity for the next 4 rounds. Wait super late for TE and look at guys like Reed/Kittle/Etc. Id wait for QB as well.
RE: RE: RE: if you get saquon with your first pick  
nygiants16 : 8/15/2018 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14039974 pjcas18 said:
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beckham happens to be there with your 2nd you taking him?



My personal preference is not to take too many Giants so that my fantasy team can be good even if my real team sucks. From a pure fantasy perspective, it's fine, but you're going to have several boom/bust weeks based on how the team does.



I agree with that in theory, but how do you pass up Beckham at (worst case) #13?

I doubt he has this dilemman since I doubt Beckham makes it to #13.


it happened to me in a mock and i sat there and i wad like do i do it?
RE: RE: RE: btw pjcas  
allstarjim : 8/15/2018 5:27 pm : link
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at #15 I really love Hilton this year. Kelce or Ertz are good choices as well. I just think with Luck back he's going to be back to an 80-95+ catch season with 1300+ yards and around 9 or 10 scores.

I think if you wait another round for TE you may still get Ertz if you are lucky but Greg Olsen is a good fallback, or you could take Engram if the spot is right...and I expect a big year from Engram.



I'd go McCaffrey and Hilton as well. I'm still a little leery of McCaffrey holding up to a big workload and the OL is a little scary. But I've been warming up to the possibility and actually found myself disappointed that he went right before my pick last night in the late 2nd round.




Thanks YAJ and ASJ, and I too was leery of McCaffrey as my #1 back, but in PPR I think he'll have a low floor. He'll catch 5+ passes probably every week. I like Hilton too if he is still there at 15.

My problem is my traded picks, so I keep Beckham and Thomas and say I draft McCaffrey and Hilton I don't pick again until round 7 which in a keeper league is really like round 9.

So that's basically the team I can count on plus QB.

hoping to get Watson in the 7th.

I can go with

Beckham
Thomas
Hilton
McCaffrey
Watson/Luck

and fill in


Hmmm, I think given that, you may want to go with the TE over Hilton, because that would give you conceivably a greater positional advantage every week. And I'm kicking around the idea of having Ertz higher on my board than Kelce, just because I am not sold on Mahomes and if that offense falls flat, Kelce's numbers take a dip. Ertz I am unconcerned about, and there's a decent enough chance that Ertz outperforms Kelce even if Mahomes is legit.

Ertz missed two games and was basically benched in week 17, and he still put up the third highest mark among TEs in fantasy last year. Kelce did miss one game, but I also think Kelce took a physical beating last year and that coupled with Mahomes being an unproven commodity, I just think Ertz is a little safer with just as big a ceiling as Kelce. I still do like Kelce, and he's been a target monster for them, and if that continues he should still be one of the top 3 or 4 TEs in fantasy. How many targets does Sammy Watkins get in that offense, though? Still like Kelce as the #1 receiver there, I am just a little concerned about Mahomes.

Back to receiver, I think there are enough guys that are being overlooked that can be values in the middle to late rounds of the draft. At TE, I don't think the pool is as deep but there are a couple of sleeper TEs late that I really think could suprise.
What QBs are you all targeting late in drafts?  
knicks3031 : 8/15/2018 5:31 pm : link
I don't have picks in rounds 7-9 due to keepers/trades... Thoughts on guys like Alex Smith, Carr, or Eli late? Anybody rolling with them as their starting QBs all year?

Trying to decide if I need to take a QB in round 5-6 before the gap or hold out until after.
RE: RE: RE: PPR Keeper league  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2018 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14040018 WillVAB said:
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keeping Beckham and M. Thomas, who do you take at 7 among:

AJ Green (unlikely)
McCoy (unlikely)
McCaffrey
Freeman
Gronk
Evans
Fitz
Hilton
Kelce
Ertz
Tyreek Hill

Really 7 and 15.


I was thinking McCaffrey or Freeman at #7 and Kelce or Ertz at #15.

What do you say?

Also, I traded away my 3rd and 6th round picks, used my 4th and 5th on keepers so I won't pick again until the 7th round. so this is basically my team.




I would take McCaffrey, and it's not close. McCaffrey had 80 catches on 113 targets last year, AS A ROOKIE, and they want to expand his role. I think he's a huge value get for his ADP, especially in PPR leagues. I know they got C.J. Anderson, I'm not that concerned. Yes, you are going to sacrifice some TD's at the goal line with Anderson and Newton, but I think McCaffrey's upside is way worth it. He only had 117 carries last year, and I expect that to double, with similar receiving numbers. He finished as the 10th highest scoring PPR RB as a rookie, and you have to believe that with increased work I think you are looking at around 1500 total yards for him this season, and I think he's going to get 7 or 8 TDs at least. I think conservatively, if he gets the kind of work expected, he's going to be somewhere around the 6th to 8th top producing RB's in fantasy football this year, and he could outperform that if he gets any goal line work at all.



Disagree. Mcaffrey was terrible running the football last year and the OL is exponentially worse with the loss of Norwell and Williams.

That said, you really dont have a choice unless you want to roll the entire season on RB fliers.

Mcaffrey does have a substantial amount of value as a receiver and I think CAR will be playing from behind a lot this year. PPR gives you a safe floor w him even if he only rushed for 500 yards on the season.

Hilton should have a good year if Luck plays. Hes a high variance receiver so hes going to piss you off week to week, but hell also win you some weeks with his ceiling.

Add another one for Mcaffrey/Hilton. Then hammer RBs with upside/opportunity for the next 4 rounds. Wait super late for TE and look at guys like Reed/Kittle/Etc. Id wait for QB as well.


I think my other choice could be Devonta Freeman. While I don't think he'll catch as many passes as McCaffrey, his pressure comes from Coleman. Freeman was a good RB2 last year and you could do worse for a RB1. Joe Mixon would be a reach (at #15) based on rankings, but I love him this year. Gio is a threat on 3rd down, but no more Jeremy Hill.


I might be able to get Freeman and Mixon.

Then my core 4 would be Beckham, M. Thomas, Freeman and Mixon.
RE: What QBs are you all targeting late in drafts?  
WillVAB : 8/15/2018 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14040029 knicks3031 said:
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I don't have picks in rounds 7-9 due to keepers/trades... Thoughts on guys like Alex Smith, Carr, or Eli late? Anybody rolling with them as their starting QBs all year?

Trying to decide if I need to take a QB in round 5-6 before the gap or hold out until after.


Hard to say without knowing your league but if I was waiting on QB Id try to get two who bring different skill sets, like one who can get you points w his legs and one traditional type QB. Marriotta is a guy I think who would be a good late pickup to go w a guy like Luck/Dalton/Carr/Winston/Eli/etc
RE: RE: RE: RE: PPR Keeper league  
WillVAB : 8/15/2018 5:53 pm : link
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keeping Beckham and M. Thomas, who do you take at 7 among:

AJ Green (unlikely)
McCoy (unlikely)
McCaffrey
Freeman
Gronk
Evans
Fitz
Hilton
Kelce
Ertz
Tyreek Hill

Really 7 and 15.


I was thinking McCaffrey or Freeman at #7 and Kelce or Ertz at #15.

What do you say?

Also, I traded away my 3rd and 6th round picks, used my 4th and 5th on keepers so I won't pick again until the 7th round. so this is basically my team.




I would take McCaffrey, and it's not close. McCaffrey had 80 catches on 113 targets last year, AS A ROOKIE, and they want to expand his role. I think he's a huge value get for his ADP, especially in PPR leagues. I know they got C.J. Anderson, I'm not that concerned. Yes, you are going to sacrifice some TD's at the goal line with Anderson and Newton, but I think McCaffrey's upside is way worth it. He only had 117 carries last year, and I expect that to double, with similar receiving numbers. He finished as the 10th highest scoring PPR RB as a rookie, and you have to believe that with increased work I think you are looking at around 1500 total yards for him this season, and I think he's going to get 7 or 8 TDs at least. I think conservatively, if he gets the kind of work expected, he's going to be somewhere around the 6th to 8th top producing RB's in fantasy football this year, and he could outperform that if he gets any goal line work at all.



Disagree. Mcaffrey was terrible running the football last year and the OL is exponentially worse with the loss of Norwell and Williams.

That said, you really dont have a choice unless you want to roll the entire season on RB fliers.

Mcaffrey does have a substantial amount of value as a receiver and I think CAR will be playing from behind a lot this year. PPR gives you a safe floor w him even if he only rushed for 500 yards on the season.

Hilton should have a good year if Luck plays. Hes a high variance receiver so hes going to piss you off week to week, but hell also win you some weeks with his ceiling.

Add another one for Mcaffrey/Hilton. Then hammer RBs with upside/opportunity for the next 4 rounds. Wait super late for TE and look at guys like Reed/Kittle/Etc. Id wait for QB as well.



I think my other choice could be Devonta Freeman. While I don't think he'll catch as many passes as McCaffrey, his pressure comes from Coleman. Freeman was a good RB2 last year and you could do worse for a RB1. Joe Mixon would be a reach (at #15) based on rankings, but I love him this year. Gio is a threat on 3rd down, but no more Jeremy Hill.


I might be able to get Freeman and Mixon.

Then my core 4 would be Beckham, M. Thomas, Freeman and Mixon.


Freeman and Mixon would be solid but I think Mcaffrey and Hilton give you more upside upside that could win you the league. Theres a legitimate argument both ways.

My preference is to go after guys that give me edges on the field. Beckham/Thomas/Hilton probably give you a WR edge over the rest of your league. I doubt Freeman/Mixon give you a RB edge on your league.

If it was my draft Id go Mcaffrey/Hilton then hammer guys like burkhead, Lewis, Ronald Jones, Royce Freeman, etc and hope one or two pan out as RB2/3. If you just get decent production from Mcaffrey plus 1 your WRs should blow away your opponents WRs.
RE: RE: What QBs are you all targeting late in drafts?  
JayBinQueens : 8/15/2018 6:00 pm : link
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I don't have picks in rounds 7-9 due to keepers/trades... Thoughts on guys like Alex Smith, Carr, or Eli late? Anybody rolling with them as their starting QBs all year?

Trying to decide if I need to take a QB in round 5-6 before the gap or hold out until after.



Hard to say without knowing your league but if I was waiting on QB Id try to get two who bring different skill sets, like one who can get you points w his legs and one traditional type QB. Marriotta is a guy I think who would be a good late pickup to go w a guy like Luck/Dalton/Carr/Winston/Eli/etc

I'd throw in a guy like Goff too
Fair points Will  
pjcas18 : 8/15/2018 6:04 pm : link
and my approach is just a little different, I like having positional advantages, but my goal generally is to get solid consistent producers across the board, high floor high ceiling players (isn't everyone's?). Yes, Hilton would be that at WR so there is a strong case to include him with Beckham and Thomas, especially since I can start 3 WR's and Hilton is probably undervalued after a year without Luck.

I also think though Freeman and Mixon (a little leap of faith with Mixon) will also be solid consistent producers.

and the draft never unfolds the way anyone expects, but at least I have a good core if players stay healthy.
RE: PPR Keeper league  
superspynyg : 8/15/2018 6:25 pm : link
In comment 14039799 pjcas18 said:
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keeping Beckham and M. Thomas, who do you take at 7 among:

AJ Green (unlikely)
McCoy (unlikely)
McCaffrey
Freeman
Gronk
Evans
Fitz
Hilton
Kelce
Ertz
Tyreek Hill

Really 7 and 15.


I was thinking McCaffrey or Freeman at #7 and Kelce or Ertz at #15.

What do you say?

Also, I traded away my 3rd and 6th round picks, used my 4th and 5th on keepers so I won't pick again until the 7th round. so this is basically my team.
. I would Rb Rb at 7 and 15. Rb talent drops off fast
RE: RE: RE: if you get saquon with your first pick  
Mike from SI : 8/15/2018 6:59 pm : link
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beckham happens to be there with your 2nd you taking him?



My personal preference is not to take too many Giants so that my fantasy team can be good even if my real team sucks. From a pure fantasy perspective, it's fine, but you're going to have several boom/bust weeks based on how the team does.



I agree with that in theory, but how do you pass up Beckham at (worst case) #13?

I doubt he has this dilemman since I doubt Beckham makes it to #13.


I would not pass up Beckham in this scenario just because the value is too insane. I should probably also note that both of my leagues are chock full of Giants homers so not taking a ton of Giants helps me refrain from overdrafting or overpaying. (The only time I ever reached on a Giant was Nicks the year he blew up, so I feel like the strategy has generally served me well.)
I just finished my draft.  
robbieballs2003 : 8/15/2018 11:22 pm : link
12 team, PPR league with bonuses for big plays.

Luck
Jimmy G

Hunt
Gordon
Duke Johnson
Ronald Jones
Carson
Hines

Baldwin
Landry
Davis
DJ Moore
Mike Williams

Engram
Njoku

Ravens

Not crazy about my WRs mostly because I am thin there but I know I will still be solid there. Davis is a big wildcard. I have to see what I can get out of Moore and Williams.

Otherwise, I love this team.
RE: I just finished my draft.  
YAJ2112 : 8/16/2018 8:46 am : link
In comment 14040272 robbieballs2003 said:
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12 team, PPR league with bonuses for big plays.

Luck
Jimmy G

Hunt
Gordon
Duke Johnson
Ronald Jones
Carson
Hines

Baldwin
Landry
Davis
DJ Moore
Mike Williams

Engram
Njoku

Ravens

Not crazy about my WRs mostly because I am thin there but I know I will still be solid there. Davis is a big wildcard. I have to see what I can get out of Moore and Williams.

Otherwise, I love this team.


Pretty good team. I like your RB balance. You have your two top guys, then you have a steady point producer (Duke), a guy who should produce early (Carson), and a couple of guys with upside to produce later (Jones/Hines).

I think I'd like it a little more if instead of Gordon/Baldwin, you went WR/RB instead - something like Julio/Allen/Adams/Thomas and then a Drake/Collins/McCoy.
RE: I just finished my draft.  
arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 8:54 am : link
In comment 14040272 robbieballs2003 said:
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12 team, PPR league with bonuses for big plays.

Luck
Jimmy G

Hunt
Gordon
Duke Johnson
Ronald Jones
Carson
Hines

Baldwin
Landry
Davis
DJ Moore
Mike Williams

Engram
Njoku

Ravens

Not crazy about my WRs mostly because I am thin there but I know I will still be solid there. Davis is a big wildcard. I have to see what I can get out of Moore and Williams.

Otherwise, I love this team.


I agree with you - don't love the WR's, especially with Baldwin coming off injury now and Landry not being the primary target in CLE if Gordon does return - but I do really like Corey Davis this year. He showed me something in the playoffs last year and I think he's ready to make a jump.

Love the two QB's - tons of upside - pretty good RB stable, Engram/Njoku is a good TE pair in a 12 team as well.

Solid B+, if I'm "grading"
I like your team Robbie  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2018 9:29 am : link
obviously RB's are the strength, I like your QB options (but there is some risk there), like your TE's, I do think you need some things to break right at WR (Landry is a PPR machine, Baldwin feast or famine - didn't catch over 5 passes or top 100 yards in a game the entire 2nd half of last season, so need TD's from him or for him to be more featured in the O), Davis & the others wild cards), but it shouldn't matter. Your team is solid.
Standard scoring system  
Heisenberg : 8/16/2018 9:39 am : link
Who would you rather keep?

D Henry
J McKinnon
K Drake
RE: Standard scoring system  
arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 9:40 am : link
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Who would you rather keep?

D Henry
J McKinnon
K Drake


DHen if it's standard, for sure.
RE: Standard scoring system  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2018 9:42 am : link
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Who would you rather keep?

D Henry
J McKinnon
K Drake


All good options, I'd probably rank them the way you have them listed.

I might be convinced to keep McKinnon in Shanahan's system. I've heard he's looked great so far (though had to leave practice for a minor tweak earlier this week).

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