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NFT: Yanks-Rays, Game 2: the return of Toe

Greg from LI : 8/15/2018 3:29 pm
Gardner LF
Stanton DH
Hicks CF
Gregorius SS
Andujar 3B
Bird 1B
Walker RF
Romine C
Torreyes 2B

On the mound, Luis Cessa
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Just have to keep stacking Ws  
adamg : 8/15/2018 3:48 pm : link
Let's go
Toe might be the  
dune69 : 8/15/2018 4:01 pm : link
secret weapon we've been missing.

Or not
I doubt it...  
Dunedin81 : 8/15/2018 4:05 pm : link
but the team certainly seemed to play with a little more joie de vivre when he was here.

Or maybe they were just happy because they were winning, and they were winning because they were healthy.

We'll see.
BTW, Granderson cleared waivers  
Greg from LI : 8/15/2018 4:08 pm : link
If they want an upgrade on Robinson, there it is
also, a good article on Severino's woes at MLB.com  
Greg from LI : 8/15/2018 4:12 pm : link
Arguing that it's all about his slider, which has been flatter and straighter lately.
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RE: BTW, Granderson cleared waivers  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2018 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14039960 Greg from LI said:
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If they want an upgrade on Robinson, there it is


I was going to suggest him last week when Cashman Jr. started like 8 out of 10 games or something wild like that.

I don't think Curtis has much left, but I'd sure as hell rather have him.
RE: also, a good article on Severino's woes at MLB.com  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2018 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14039962 Greg from LI said:
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Arguing that it's all about his slider, which has been flatter and straighter lately. Link - ( New Window )


It's weird, it seems like it's flat early in games and gets laced - but then sometimes later on in a start, it will begin to bite again and have that movement we've seen when he's at his best. He doesn't seem to have a good feel for it lately. Just have to hope they can get him fixed up. I'd really love to see him just get like 2 weeks off and reset but I don't know if they'll do it.
Toe is back!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/15/2018 5:18 pm : link
I'm marking out, honestly.
Good catch  
dune69 : 8/15/2018 7:34 pm : link
Walker
They are socking the ball off Cessa  
wigs in nyc : 8/15/2018 7:36 pm : link
only 1-0 for now
.  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2018 7:37 pm : link
Walker flashing the leather!
RE: Good catch  
Eman11 : 8/15/2018 7:37 pm : link
In comment 14040082 dune69 said:
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Walker




Heck of a grab for a guy who's only played a couple of games in the outfield. Actually that's a good grab for anyone but especially a guy in his spot.
Andujar... my goodness.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/15/2018 7:38 pm : link
...
Miggy!  
Eman11 : 8/15/2018 7:39 pm : link
Just crushing the ball once again.
RE: They are socking the ball off Cessa  
Greg from LI : 8/15/2018 7:39 pm : link
In comment 14040083 wigs in nyc said:
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only 1-0 for now


Not really. Neither of the two hits was hit particularly hard.
Andujar hit that so hard  
dune69 : 8/15/2018 7:39 pm : link
the left fielder hit the wall hard chasing it.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2018 7:43 pm : link
Miggy is a shoe-in for RoY barring a really major turn. He's pulled pretty far ahead of Torres in recent weeks.

Glad we didn't move him at the deadline. He's fucking awesome.
Pretty far ahead?  
Greg from LI : 8/15/2018 7:46 pm : link
Don't know about that. Their production is pretty even aside from average and Torres isn t the butcher Andujar is in the field. It's advantage Andujar at the moment, but let's see what happens when Torres starts hitting again.
What scares me is if they split the vote and  
yatqb : 8/15/2018 7:48 pm : link
neither wins.
How is Cessa getting the nod still?  
chopperhatch : 8/15/2018 7:52 pm : link
He quite literally ALWAYS SUCKS.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2018 7:55 pm : link
Torres is going to have to get white hot for a bit to get back ahead of Andujar, methinks. Miggy is 1st among rookies in basically every category. His defense sucks but the voters probably aren't going to weigh that much.

Andujar has been quite a bit better over the last few weeks especially.

Torres is batting .145/.250/.290/.540 since his DL stint with 3 HR's, 10 RBI's and 1 double in that span of 69 AB's.

Andujar during that same span is batting .307/.333/.587/.920 with 6 HR, 17 RBI's, and 3 doubles in 75 AB's.

It was Torres by a little bit when he hit the DL, I think - but since he's come off, Andujar has been much, much better.

Of course, Andujar can (and probably will) cool a bit and Torres will hopefully get back on track. But It think the gap is starting to widen by the day the longer this keeps up. To me, Andujar would absolutely be the guy if the season ended right now.

Then again, if you're a big WAR guy, they're both @ 1.7 bWAR - mostly because Torres is much better in the field.
RE: How is Cessa getting the nod still?  
Beer Man : 8/15/2018 7:56 pm : link
In comment 14040105 chopperhatch said:
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He quite literally ALWAYS SUCKS.
My thoughts as well. WTF are Boone and Cash thinking, there is better talent in the organization that could give the Yanks a better chance to win.
Sheffield can’t be worse than fucking Cessa  
The_Boss : 8/15/2018 7:58 pm : link
Can we stop sending this guy out there? He is absolute garbage.
RE: How is Cessa getting the nod still?  
Greg from LI : 8/15/2018 7:58 pm : link
In comment 14040105 chopperhatch said:
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He quite literally ALWAYS SUCKS.


Because 4 guys who are ahead of him are hurt - Montgomery, Sabathia, German, and Loaisiga.
RE: RE: How is Cessa getting the nod still?  
chopperhatch : 8/15/2018 8:01 pm : link
In comment 14040114 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14040105 chopperhatch said:


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He quite literally ALWAYS SUCKS.



Because 4 guys who are ahead of him are hurt - Montgomery, Sabathia, German, and Loaisiga.


Incorrect. They optioned Cessa up ahead of German
.  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2018 8:05 pm : link
Lasagna just started his rehab assignment I believe - so we should have him available again before long.
German hasn't pitched since July 26  
Greg from LI : 8/15/2018 8:06 pm : link
And, in any case, his numbers are worse than Cessa's, so I'm not sure what difference it makes.
The Luis Cessa Experience.  
bceagle05 : 8/15/2018 8:18 pm : link
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Once again Cessa puts the team in a hole  
The_Boss : 8/15/2018 8:18 pm : link
They likely cannot get out from.

Enough with this guy
Boone's  
MookGiants : 8/15/2018 8:19 pm : link
in game management of the pitching has been truly horrific. Cessa got a long leash for some unknown reason.

Not sure why Cessa was given the start over Sheffield, either.

.  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2018 8:19 pm : link
Luis Cessa is truly awful.
What is it going to take  
Kyle in NY : 8/15/2018 8:19 pm : link
before we see Sheffield?
I sincerely hope our rotation is significantly upgraded  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/15/2018 8:20 pm : link
in the offseason. Tired of this.
RE: German hasn't pitched since July 26  
chopperhatch : 8/15/2018 8:23 pm : link
In comment 14040124 Greg from LI said:
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And, in any case, his numbers are worse than Cessa's, so I'm not sure what difference it makes.


Thats really not true. If you look at Cessas shitty numbers he only pitched 5 or more twice while DG pitched at least 5 8 times and he kept us in the game the whole time. He is a far more preferable option than Cessa.
Gray!  
chopperhatch : 8/15/2018 8:25 pm : link
Here comes the thunder. Lol
this team ..if comes to a wc  
micky : 8/15/2018 8:36 pm : link
is going to have trouble in first rd..
Miggy crushes it to the deepest part of the park.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/15/2018 8:38 pm : link
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RE: this team ..if comes to a wc  
Eman11 : 8/15/2018 8:40 pm : link
In comment 14040163 micky said:
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is going to have trouble in first rd..


Not sure how you can use this game with Cessa pitching as a barometer for that.

They're on pace to win over 100 games and there's still 6+ weeks left in the season. They just need to get healthy, and then I'd take my chances with this team against anyone.
That pitch was too close to take  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/15/2018 8:43 pm : link
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Romine's  
MookGiants : 8/15/2018 8:43 pm : link
had a good year offensively.

But he's been absolutely awful defensively. Everyone thinks he's a good defensive catcher, but he isn't. He can't throw for shit. Severino's numbers with him catching are significantly worse than they are with Sanchez/Hagishioka.

The Yankees helped that narrative that he's a good defensive catcher when they for some unknown reason catered to Sonny Gray when Gray's problems had nothing to do with who was catching and everything to do with Sonny Gray being a mental midget who can't pitch in New York.

he's out  
MookGiants : 8/15/2018 8:44 pm : link
fuck. Torreyes has to be faster than that, no?
So which  
Beer Man : 8/15/2018 8:49 pm : link
Shade of Gray do we get tonight
RE: .  
Hsilwek92 : 8/15/2018 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14040143 arcarsenal said:
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Luis Cessa is truly awful.


Well, he was a Met originally.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 8/15/2018 8:51 pm : link
In comment 14040178 Hsilwek92 said:
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In comment 14040143 arcarsenal said:


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Luis Cessa is truly awful.



Well, he was a Met originally.


Don't I know it! :)
Gray  
MookGiants : 8/15/2018 9:00 pm : link
needs to go on the DL with a mysterious injury and traded in the off-season. He's just a horrible pitcher in this market. Take whatever you can get in the off-season and move on.
Just  
mdthedream : 8/15/2018 9:03 pm : link
get Sheffield up already and stop pitching these other clowns.
As Devil's Advocate  
Mike from SI : 8/15/2018 9:07 pm : link
It might not be worth rushing Sheffield's development for the needs of the big league club that's almost certainly going to make the 'offs. (But yeah I wanna see him from a fan's perspective.)
Boston just went ahead in Philly  
The_Boss : 8/15/2018 9:24 pm : link
They never freaking lose.
RE: Boston just went ahead in Philly  
Eman11 : 8/15/2018 9:31 pm : link
In comment 14040207 The_Boss said:
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They never freaking lose.


Just checked back in on that game and it's still 3-3 bottom 6, Phils threatening.
Sonny Gray kicking that ball just made me exceedingly angry.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/15/2018 9:37 pm : link
WTF did he think that was going to accomplish?
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