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adamg : 8/16/2018 10:31 am
my god, they need Judge and Sanchez back in the worst way  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 10:39 am : link
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 10:43 am : link
Ugh. Cashman Jr in the lineup again.

Ugly bottom half - and with Torres struggling so much since the break, it's even worse.

The updates on Judge haven't been too encouraging. I think we're going to see Sanchez first.
I thought we'd see  
dune69 : 8/16/2018 10:45 am : link
Judge ahead of Sanchez. Does not look that way. Judge is still a big question mark as far as "when".
I think Cashman's done a very good job overall  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 10:46 am : link
But his reluctance to pick up another bat is puzzling. I get that the pickins are fairly slim, but when the alternative is Shane Robinson, what do you have to lose?
Wrist injuries are brutal on power hitters  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 10:47 am : link
That's why I was surprised when they were so optimistic early on, and not surprised at all that he's taking much longer than they originally thought.
If the refusal to add another bat  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 10:47 am : link
is about cost and the luxury tax then that is very disappointing.
Is Brett Gardner really that bad against lefties  
Dave in PA : 8/16/2018 10:50 am : link
To sit in favor of some AAAA guy hitting a buck 38? Is Shane Robinson a stud defender? I haven’t seen him play much so I’m actually curious.
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 10:52 am : link
Robinson is just not a major league player. Why not take a flyer on Granderson or something? He can probably still pop a few over that RF porch @ home.
RE: my god, they need Judge and Sanchez back in the worst way  
Beer Man : 8/16/2018 11:16 am : link
In comment 14040490 Greg from LI said:
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Yesterday's injury report stated that Sanchez is on track to start his rehab assignment on Aug-24th. Sounds like the earliest he would return to the Yanks is Aug-28 (and that's if all goes well)
In other news  
Beer Man : 8/16/2018 11:34 am : link
Tommy Kahnle is to be recalled today and Cessna sent back down.
Time to convert Cessa to a reliever  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 11:46 am : link
his numbers the first time through the order are not bad. I cannot watch another spot start from him though
RE: In other news  
Beer Man : 8/16/2018 11:48 am : link
In comment 14040557 Beer Man said:
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Tommy Kahnle is to be recalled today and Cessna sent back down.
Cessna = Cessa (ooops)
In Israel visiting my brother  
Stu11 : 8/16/2018 12:36 pm : link
so happy we get to finally watch one as this one will start 8pm here. Things haven't changed since I left, still can't beat the O's or Rays 2 times in a row. Yes the reluctance of Cash to add a major league OF has gone from puzzling to infuriating. Granderson could probably have been had for free with just a waiver claim. Chances are 50/50 Toronto would have just let him go. He did a great job with Pitching at the deadline but ignored hitting. We needed a back-up C and OF. Absolutely ridiculous. With Judge I think they were very simplistic with the announcement of the diagnosis of an Ulnar Styloid fracture. Rarely do you just fracture that area. Often times you have whats called a distal radius fracture as well. Doesn't usually require surgery, but 3 weeks was definately ultra optomistic. My bet is its going to be closer to 6 weeks. This makes Cash's lack of action even worse.








Word is Baltimore approached the Yanks  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 12:46 pm : link
about Adam Jones but he makes too much. This was what I was worried about. The adherence to the luxury tax as if the Yankees have to pinch pennies and keep a strict budget. I admire the desire to win while also not having far and away the highest payroll in the game. And I know the Clint Frazier injury really threw everything for a loop. But Boston spending the most money as they continue a historic season, while we have the 6th highest payroll and are running Shane Robinson and Neil Walker out in RF, because we won't take on more salary is pretty infuriating.

But at least Hal's year end profit margins will look good!
I'm pretty sure Judge will be back  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 12:50 pm : link
before the playoffs and will be just fine. But what if he isn't? Wrist/hand injuries are tricky and maybe he comes back and he's just not right and he re-aggravates it. There's a non-zero chance of that happening. Now we really need a ML caliber OF but we didn't get one because of the luxury tax and by then it's too late.
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 12:52 pm : link
They were saying even when Judge does come back, he may still not have a full range of motion.

Not liking the recent updates on him.. still sore, got a cortisone shot, etc. Egh..

So we're just going to hope  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 12:53 pm : link
Clint Frazier can come back this season?

Good grief
RE: So we're just going to hope  
superspynyg : 8/16/2018 1:07 pm : link
In comment 14040643 Kyle in NY said:
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Clint Frazier can come back this season?

Good grief


I think it’s better to leave him on the shelf for the rest of the season. Let him fully get over this. Start fresh next season.

Looking ahead I really hope the Mariners overtake the A’s for the second wild card. Yanks vs M’s just looks better. Cano return to Yankees stadium, Better lineup and staff.
Come on Tanaka  
Jints in Carolina : 8/16/2018 1:14 pm : link
Jesus christ.
The pitching on this team  
bluesince56 : 8/16/2018 1:14 pm : link
is just bad.
This team is sleepwalking  
Jints in Carolina : 8/16/2018 1:16 pm : link
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Well, it's tough when you're facing sluggers like...  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 1:17 pm : link
....umm, Mallex Smith and Joey Wendle and Jake Bauers. A regular murderer's row.
RE: Well, it's tough when you're facing sluggers like...  
Jints in Carolina : 8/16/2018 1:18 pm : link
In comment 14040666 Greg from LI said:
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....umm, Mallex Smith and Joey Wendle and Jake Bauers. A regular murderer's row.


And apparently Tommy Pham
No way he should get third there...  
LarmerTJR : 8/16/2018 1:21 pm : link
Why not just run across the diamond and make them chase you?
Glad every pitcher on the team decided to hit the skids  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 1:21 pm : link
at the same time
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 1:25 pm : link
Awesome, now Tanaka is struggling.

Can't believe it's JA Happ and Lance Lynn that I have the most faith in right now. I'm actually looking forward to tomorrow because Lynn is pitching.

Insane.
im ok  
MookGiants : 8/16/2018 1:27 pm : link
with not going after another outfielder just for a few weeks with Judge out. It is important to get below that luxury tax number and have it reset. More important than whatever outfielder they can get right now.

If Judge doesn't come back healthy, this team isn't winning the World Series no matter who they can get
This rotation is an absolute fucking mess.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2018 2:16 pm : link
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The only thing I worry about with the tax reset  
arniefez : 8/16/2018 2:21 pm : link
is another winter of Ellsbury, McCann & Beltran. I hope if Boston wins out that the Yankees don't get stupid like they did the last time.
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 2:23 pm : link
Masa has settled in after a tough first inning+ but now we can't score and it's not going to be easy against Snell.

Feels like everything just keeps kind of going against us.
#6 hitter with zero speed  
bigbluehoya : 8/16/2018 2:32 pm : link
Attempting to bunt for a base hit against a team that isn’t shifting against him.

What a time to be alive.
RE: This rotation is an absolute fucking mess.  
bluesince56 : 8/16/2018 2:36 pm : link
In comment 14040729 Dave in Hoboken said:
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It’s not just that. They have no life in them. Imagine what George would be doing if watching
What a collective hitting slump  
njm : 8/16/2018 2:37 pm : link

They make opposing starters look like the 1969 Orioles staff.
RE: im ok  
Stu11 : 8/16/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14040680 MookGiants said:
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with not going after another outfielder just for a few weeks with Judge out. It is important to get below that luxury tax number and have it reset. More important than whatever outfielder they can get right now.

If Judge doesn't come back healthy, this team isn't winning the World Series no matter who they can get

Mook we're not talking about a superstar how about major leaguers? We are in a race to hild on to the #1 WC.
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mfsd : 8/16/2018 2:40 pm : link
In comment 14040735 arcarsenal said:
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Masa has settled in after a tough first inning+ but now we can't score and it's not going to be easy against Snell.

Feels like everything just keeps kind of going against us.


Yup, Snell is tough, but the reality is this lineup just isn’t great right now. Without Judge and Sanchez we have holes...and while different guys have gotten hot for stretches, it seems like runs are at a premium every time out.

Hicks (.365) and Stanton (.347) are the only guys with an OBP over .340 in the lineup. Judge leaves a gaping hole when he’s not in there.
RE: RE: im ok  
bigbluehoya : 8/16/2018 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14040750 Stu11 said:
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with not going after another outfielder just for a few weeks with Judge out. It is important to get below that luxury tax number and have it reset. More important than whatever outfielder they can get right now.

If Judge doesn't come back healthy, this team isn't winning the World Series no matter who they can get


Mook we're not talking about a superstar how about major leaguers? We are in a race to hild on to the #1 WC.


Being/staying under the LuxTax this season is unquestionably a bigger priority than a 4-6 week replacement OF bat.

We’d all like to see a better option out there than Shane Robinson. If going over the luxury tax was truly the only way to make a meaningful improvement, then living w Robinson is the right choice.

Frankly, I think they’d do better to just play Torreyes out there every day.
I really fucking hate baseball sometimes.  
Hsilwek92 : 8/16/2018 2:46 pm : link
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Again I'm not talking about blowing through the luxury tax  
Stu11 : 8/16/2018 2:47 pm : link
With only 6 weeks left there are plenty of options out there
Sleepwalking team  
Sec 103 : 8/16/2018 2:50 pm : link
no life even before the Beantown massacre
RE: RE: RE: im ok  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14040756 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 14040680 MookGiants said:


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with not going after another outfielder just for a few weeks with Judge out. It is important to get below that luxury tax number and have it reset. More important than whatever outfielder they can get right now.

If Judge doesn't come back healthy, this team isn't winning the World Series no matter who they can get


Mook we're not talking about a superstar how about major leaguers? We are in a race to hild on to the #1 WC.



Being/staying under the LuxTax this season is unquestionably a bigger priority than a 4-6 week replacement OF bat.

We’d all like to see a better option out there than Shane Robinson. If going over the luxury tax was truly the only way to make a meaningful improvement, then living w Robinson is the right choice.

Frankly, I think they’d do better to just play Torreyes out there every day.


Being under the luxury tax is more important than putting the team in a better position to go to the playoffs and win a World Series? Give me a break.

Yankees ownership is very luck to have you all looking out for their bottom line I guess. They're going to blow past the luxury tax next season anyway. I know having it reset does save them money (I'll admit to not knowing the exact amount) but much of that has to be offset by the tax they're going to pay in the coming years. Regardless, the Yankees are not hurting for profits.

I was ok with the luxury tax plan until it meant playing AAA caliber players consistently in the middle of a playoff race. Enough already. Get a real outfielder.
I'm hoping we have a repeat of last year  
Stu11 : 8/16/2018 2:54 pm : link
Slept walked through a few months then heated up late August til the end.
at least it's Snell who's shutting them down today  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 2:56 pm : link
Not some scrub with an ERA over 8.
RE: at least it's Snell who's shutting them down today  
Stu11 : 8/16/2018 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14040771 Greg from LI said:
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Not some scrub with an ERA over 8.

Or a parade of them...
Not meaning to sound confrontational  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 2:58 pm : link
I appreciate the feedback here. But I sort of can't believe what I'm seeing with so many content riding it out with Robinson and Walker in RF just to stay under the luxury tax and save ownership money
Kyle, the tax IS absurd though  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 3:00 pm : link
75% at the moment, I believe? I can't blame them for wanting to erase that.
RE: at least it's Snell who's shutting them down today  
Stu11 : 8/16/2018 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14040771 Greg from LI said:
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Not some scrub with an ERA over 8.

Or a parade of them...
It's not just saving ownership  
MookGiants : 8/16/2018 3:01 pm : link
a couple of million dollars. It's tens of millions, and will likely benefit the Yankees big time for a while if they can get under it this year. Once they are under the tax it resets, so it affects many years and tens of millions of dollars. It's important to the long term success of the team that they get under it this year. Hal is not cheap, but he is not going to blindly spend like his father did, and I'm ok with that.

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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 3:04 pm : link
I'm okay with them wanting to stay under the threshold - it's just so fucking frustrating that Frazier can't even play right now when there's a spot for him to be out there every single day. And that's not Frazier's fault. The timing just really sucks.

Shane Robinson cannot continue to get starts. There HAS to be a better option without crossing the tax line.
Kyle  
bigbluehoya : 8/16/2018 3:05 pm : link
The reset means the luxury tax is 20% going forward as opposed to 50%. That massive.

It’s not me looking out for somebody else’s money. It’s me wanting them to invest heavily going forward and knowing that those decisions can and will absolutely be impacted by the amount of $ they’re burning on LuxTax.

I’m more worried about the 5-10 year window than 2018.
Fair enough  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 3:07 pm : link
I guess once they commit to it they might as well follow through. Still don't love it but it is what it is. That said, I'm sure there was an opportunity to acquire at least a respectable bat and maybe swap out some salary like what they did with Warren/Lynn. Or add a prospect to get a team to eat salary.

I'm just worn out by the Shane Robinson experience
the timing was awful on multiple levels  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 3:10 pm : link
On top of Frazier getting hurt again right before Judge, they traded McKinney away mere hours before Judge got hurt.
Kyle, getting under the tax allows them to go for guys like Corbin,  
yatqb : 8/16/2018 3:11 pm : link
Kershaw, Machado and Harper next year, something we wouldn't otherwise do.

A 50% tax on any revenue over the limit is a huge issue...the Yanks have paid about $320M in fines for being over the threshold over the years.

This team is just not good enough to survive in the playoffs as currently constituted; we need another ace (OR TWO if Sevy doesn't get his shit together) and power bats, whether in the form of Judge, Sanchez or someone else. And I haven't heard of any of those players being on the market at present. Free agency has the chance to take this team from really good to special. I hope we wait for that rather than bring someone in now who takes us over the cap.
They probably could still go after those guys  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 3:14 pm : link
with or without the tax. But I get that Hal operates differently and likely has a certain threshold he wants to hit when balancing the books
what an offensive juggernaut this team is  
micky : 8/16/2018 3:22 pm : link
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Of course, they COULD do anything, but they wouldn't.  
yatqb : 8/16/2018 3:23 pm : link
They're getting under the threshold because they plan to have the flexibility to make some major signings in the future without going over Hal's budget.
I think The Yankees are far enough under the tax  
arniefez : 8/16/2018 3:29 pm : link
to add a bat for 6 weeks. The whole salary isn't charged against them just the prorated portion of the season that's left. But maybe Happ, Lynn & Britton got them too close to be comfortable doing anything else. All of them are 13/12 million dollar players.

Right now next year they have 4 contracts that equal 88 million. Stanton, Ellsbury, Tanaka & Chapman.

Didi, Gray, Betances, Hicks, Kahnle, Torreyes, Severino, Romine & Bird are ARB eligible. This year combined they make about 25 million. Next year that number might be at least in the 40's.

Judge, Frazier, Greene, Holder and Sanchez make nothing. Add Wade and Montgomery if they're on the team and it's about 4 million for all of them.

I think that's 20 players that have a chance to be on 2019 Yankees before free agents. Some of course could be traded. I doubt any of those 20 will be released.

So let's say that's about 135 million in salary. Benefits count against the tax and I think they're about 12 million. So maybe 150 with Gardner's option? The tax next year is going up to 209 from 197.

Robertson, Britton, Happ, Lynn, Walker, Gardner (if they decline his option for 2M) are free agents once the season ends. They paid 6M for McCann and Headley to play elsewhere this year that's done in 2019.

So if Boston wins out and the Yankees crap out I'd be very worried about more dumb contracts coming our way. But I'd be happy to see a lot of Yankee money go into Manny's bank account to play 3B.
Wow  
Jay on the Island : 8/16/2018 3:29 pm : link
Tampa Bay received Shane Baz as the player to be named later in the Archer deal? That's a huge get for them. He is raw but he has a huge upside. Tampa has quite an impressive group of young pitching prospects.
The Rays are a fun team to watch  
arniefez : 8/16/2018 3:31 pm : link
if they actually build that new stadium and are even a medium revenue team they'll contend. They are run very smartly on the baseball side.
...  
BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 3:34 pm : link
the rays are fucking schooling us.

sad how bad we look today offensively
The Rays are miserable to watch  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 3:35 pm : link
and quite annoying. They are literally bunting their way around the bases. But we can't seem to consistently beat them so credit to them I guess.
So, uh, we're not gonna be this shitty  
bceagle05 : 8/16/2018 3:37 pm : link
for the rest of the season, are we? Gotta believe there's another hot streak in us once we get a little healthier.
Down 3-0 in the 8th with that shift and his speed  
arniefez : 8/16/2018 3:54 pm : link
why wouldn't he bunt to 3B?
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BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 3:56 pm : link
shitty part is nobody was fielding it...stanton may have scored lol
in what world do you call that a homerun  
BigBlue2112 : 8/16/2018 3:56 pm : link
my god
yeah thats a homerun  
micky : 8/16/2018 3:57 pm : link
[rolling eyes]
What is the first base umpire looking at?  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 3:57 pm : link
wow
first base ump is drunk  
micky : 8/16/2018 3:58 pm : link
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and need a replay for this lmfao  
micky : 8/16/2018 3:59 pm : link
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BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:01 pm : link
stanton being on second is a fucking crime.....he was on second and the ball was just rolling in the outfield. easily should be on third, if not scoring if the ump doesnt make a shit call
Fucking bullshit call  
Hsilwek92 : 8/16/2018 4:01 pm : link
At the very least Stanton should be on 3rd. The RF’er gave up on the ball.

Bullshit.
Miggy's recent power surge hopefully continues here  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:04 pm : link
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what the hell is he swinging at?  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:06 pm : link
Jeez....I hope he develops some plate discipline.
RE: what the hell is he swinging at?  
BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14040870 Greg from LI said:
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Jeez....I hope he develops some plate discipline.



HE HAS NEVER HAD PLATE DISCIPLINE
no shit, Einstein  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:09 pm : link
That's why I said it would be nice if he developed some.
RE: The Rays are a fun team to watch  
Jay on the Island : 8/16/2018 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14040830 arniefez said:
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if they actually build that new stadium and are even a medium revenue team they'll contend. They are run very smartly on the baseball side.

They are very good at scouting and developing their players. If they just had some money to spend they could be a very good team. It sucks for their fan base that nearly every good young player won't see a second contract.
Still can't believe the absolute heist they pulled on the Pirates  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:18 pm : link
At least the Yankees didn't pay through the nose for Archer.

Ump wants to call it a day, I see
Personally don't think  
dune69 : 8/16/2018 4:20 pm : link
Kevin Cash does a bad job considering what he is given to work with. Every time he gets a player trending up and needing to get paid, he's traded. Cash may be ok with a well run organization although he grew up in Tampa so he may be happy.
alright goddammit  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:25 pm : link
If they don't at least tie this here, I'm giving up on games for a while
Greg Bird  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:26 pm : link
one time, let's go
Started the season  
dune69 : 8/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
supremely confident in Bird. Now I wish he wasn't up right now.
RE: alright goddammit  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14040886 Greg from LI said:
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If they don't at least tie this here, I'm giving up on games for a while


Really no excuse not to. And Romo was really letting the ump have it on that 3 ball when it really wasnt even that close. Hes got some balls.
one stinking lousy single ties it  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
That's all they need.
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BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
bird fucking sucks
Oh, Bird.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
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RE: I think The Yankees are far enough under the tax  
rich in DC : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14040827 arniefez said:
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to add a bat for 6 weeks. The whole salary isn't charged against them just the prorated portion of the season that's left. But maybe Happ, Lynn & Britton got them too close to be comfortable doing anything else. All of them are 13/12 million dollar players.

Right now next year they have 4 contracts that equal 88 million. Stanton, Ellsbury, Tanaka & Chapman.

Didi, Gray, Betances, Hicks, Kahnle, Torreyes, Severino, Romine & Bird are ARB eligible. This year combined they make about 25 million. Next year that number might be at least in the 40's.

Judge, Frazier, Greene, Holder and Sanchez make nothing. Add Wade and Montgomery if they're on the team and it's about 4 million for all of them.

I think that's 20 players that have a chance to be on 2019 Yankees before free agents. Some of course could be traded. I doubt any of those 20 will be released.

So let's say that's about 135 million in salary. Benefits count against the tax and I think they're about 12 million. So maybe 150 with Gardner's option? The tax next year is going up to 209 from 197.

Robertson, Britton, Happ, Lynn, Walker, Gardner (if they decline his option for 2M) are free agents once the season ends. They paid 6M for McCann and Headley to play elsewhere this year that's done in 2019.

So if Boston wins out and the Yankees crap out I'd be very worried about more dumb contracts coming our way. But I'd be happy to see a lot of Yankee money go into Manny's bank account to play 3B.


This site should give you a fairly good idea of where they are. The number are probably not perfect, but definitely close.

Remember NOT to use the first tab, which is only the actual salaries, but the SECOND tab (Yankee Tax Tracker), which uses the AAV, which is used to compute luxury tax.

I would use a rounding error of $2M to be safe. So, the Yanks are probably between $5M- $9M under the luxury tax line- with the real number probably closer to $5M.
Yankee payroll 2018 - ( New Window )
here comes weak contact by bird...  
BigBlue2112 : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
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So fucking done with Bird  
Hsilwek92 : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
Awful
Andujar to first  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
and Machado at 3B seems more and more likely with each Greg Bird AB
.  
arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
Holy shit, Bird you have to be fucking kidding me.

Bases loaded, no one out, a 6 ERA pitcher on the mound and you hack away at the first fucking pitch.
Awesome Bird!  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
We needed that!!!!
first pitch popup....nice work  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:29 pm : link
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hate being right  
BigBlue2112 : 8/16/2018 4:29 pm : link
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BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
the yankees have zero timely hitting....its fucking pathetic...i literally cant take this team some times

Wow...two shitty  
LarmerTJR : 8/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
At bats there...
Wish I could say I'm disappointed  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
But that would mean I didn't expect this
Also this is what  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
Is what happens when you go back to back lefties. I hate stacking lefties for thos reason...stupid side armers
Good grief  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
Gardner might be cooked. Nice swing
RE: Also this is what  
BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14040906 chopperhatch said:
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Is what happens when you go back to back lefties. I hate stacking lefties for thos reason...stupid side armers


lefties hit this dude well....

not our lefties though hahah
Watch,  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 4:31 pm : link
Zero runs
Brutal.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2018 4:32 pm : link
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Romine is shit  
Hsilwek92 : 8/16/2018 4:32 pm : link
Fuck him too
wow  
BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:32 pm : link
this team fucking blows RISP.

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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 4:32 pm : link
Good lord. That was fucking horrible.
SUCK  
Sec 103 : 8/16/2018 4:32 pm : link
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Yeah, I'm stepping away for a while  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
This is pretty much rock bottom
What a shit show  
Jints in Carolina : 8/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
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Romine  
MookGiants : 8/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
has had a fluke offensive year but in reality he's just not any good. At anything.

Bird needs to earn his job next year, not have it handed to him. That nonsense needs to end immediately.
Lol  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
and Romine swings at three out of the zone. Fuck off
Bases load  
bluesince56 : 8/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
No outs, no runs. Just pathetic!
RE: Andujar to first  
rich in DC : 8/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14040898 Kyle in NY said:
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and Machado at 3B seems more and more likely with each Greg Bird AB


No, Andujar to 1B is probably the most UNLIKELY outcome. Andjuar's primary strength is his arm, with footwork and scooping being weaknesses. At 1B, the strength would be completed negated, while making the weaknesses even more obvious.

Only the NY Post writers and other media with a a huge gap of knowledge about the game would have come up with that blatantly WRONG scenario.
lmfao..cant be anymore pathetic  
micky : 8/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
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jesus christ....  
BigBlue2112 : 8/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
this is a bad team right now.
Polar opposite  
dune69 : 8/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
from last year where the team refused to lose in late innings.
...  
BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:33 pm : link
it amazes me this team has the record it has. they dont hit with RISP. their pitching staff is so inconsistent.

crazy shit. we literally cant fucking beat the rays
Im done with thus team for  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 4:34 pm : link
A while. Boring, shitty basebaall with the e exception of blow outs. This team is NOT winning a WC the way its currently playing. Gross.
This is the first time I’ve actually been pissed at Boone  
Hsilwek92 : 8/16/2018 4:34 pm : link
It wouldn’t have made a difference but, shit man, show some fucking fire when arguing that bullshit call on Stanton. This team is lifeless right now, they could’ve used that.
Glad I missed this one.  
bceagle05 : 8/16/2018 4:35 pm : link
Boonie's really gonna connect with these guys at the postgame buffet though.
I hate to make it about the hitting coach, but the approaches you see  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/16/2018 4:35 pm : link
at the plate are mind-numbing. People aren't prepared to hit strikes... they're waiting for the perfect pitch or guessing.

This guy came out of the pen and threw ONE pitch over the heart of the plate and that was the ONE pitch no one swung at.
RE: Im done with thus team for  
bluesince56 : 8/16/2018 4:35 pm : link
In comment 14040926 chopperhatch said:
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A while. Boring, shitty basebaall with the e exception of blow outs. This team is NOT winning a WC the way its currently playing. Gross.


They keep playing like this and there may be no WC game
RE: RE: Andujar to first  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:36 pm : link
In comment 14040921 rich in DC said:
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and Machado at 3B seems more and more likely with each Greg Bird AB



No, Andujar to 1B is probably the most UNLIKELY outcome. Andjuar's primary strength is his arm, with footwork and scooping being weaknesses. At 1B, the strength would be completed negated, while making the weaknesses even more obvious.

Only the NY Post writers and other media with a a huge gap of knowledge about the game would have come up with that blatantly WRONG scenario.


Could see a Soriano-esque move to corner OF where his arm could still be utilized. Good point.

But Rich, there are ways to make good points without continuing to come off as a condescending prick unable to properly communicate with others. You seem to lack that ability.
Please tell me we are fucking done with these guys  
Stu11 : 8/16/2018 4:36 pm : link
Guys please????? If I have to watch us flail and miss any more vs their parade of shit besides Snell they chuck out there I'm gonna puke.
Stanton to first base  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:38 pm : link
Why not? He certainly has the height for it
Andujar's  
MookGiants : 8/16/2018 4:38 pm : link
arm strength is not a strength because he takes forever to actually throw the ball.

His footwork is an issue on throws. He'd be fine at 1b.

Bird is a mediocre defensive 1st basemen anywyas
Is Voit still on the team?  
PetesHereNow : 8/16/2018 4:40 pm : link
If so, why is he not in vs. that lefty instead of Bird?
RE: Is Voit still on the team?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/16/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14040940 PetesHereNow said:
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If so, why is he not in vs. that lefty instead of Bird?


No, he got sent down for Toe.
RE: RE: RE: Andujar to first  
rich in DC : 8/16/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14040932 Kyle in NY said:
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and Machado at 3B seems more and more likely with each Greg Bird AB



No, Andujar to 1B is probably the most UNLIKELY outcome. Andjuar's primary strength is his arm, with footwork and scooping being weaknesses. At 1B, the strength would be completed negated, while making the weaknesses even more obvious.

Only the NY Post writers and other media with a a huge gap of knowledge about the game would have come up with that blatantly WRONG scenario.



Could see a Soriano-esque move to corner OF where his arm could still be utilized. Good point.

But Rich, there are ways to make good points without continuing to come off as a condescending prick unable to properly communicate with others. You seem to lack that ability.


I don't sugar coat things. A bad idea is a bad idea and I'm not going to dance around it.
Andujar and Bird are both bad defenders  
arniefez : 8/16/2018 4:41 pm : link
My guess is the Yankees will just continue to live with it next year. They have an organizational philosophy and I don't think they're going to change the people or person who set that agenda.

But I wonder if the success of teams that have gone away from 3 outcome hitters and bad defenders will make itself into the Yankees laptops over the winter. Or not.
Bird gets another 6 weeks pretty much and I see that as it  
Stu11 : 8/16/2018 4:41 pm : link
If he doesn't get consistent. We have too much $ and there's too much talent at the position in the MLB to put up with this.
keep banging that SMALLBALL!!1! drum, Randal  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:42 pm : link
It's what you're good at
RE: RE: Is Voit still on the team?  
PetesHereNow : 8/16/2018 4:42 pm : link
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If so, why is he not in vs. that lefty instead of Bird?



No, he got sent down for Toe.


I’d rather see Toe than Bird. That’s sad.
Every time I give up on Gardy  
bceagle05 : 8/16/2018 4:43 pm : link
he bounces back, but I'd have a hard time penciling him in as the starting LF next season. Stanton and Frazier can share OF/DH duties.
I hope  
MookGiants : 8/16/2018 4:43 pm : link
Romine isn't on the roster next year. His bat this year is the definition of a fluke and i'm fucking sick of seeing him behind the plate. He is a poor defensive catcher.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Andujar to first  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14040942 rich in DC said:
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and Machado at 3B seems more and more likely with each Greg Bird AB



No, Andujar to 1B is probably the most UNLIKELY outcome. Andjuar's primary strength is his arm, with footwork and scooping being weaknesses. At 1B, the strength would be completed negated, while making the weaknesses even more obvious.

Only the NY Post writers and other media with a a huge gap of knowledge about the game would have come up with that blatantly WRONG scenario.



Could see a Soriano-esque move to corner OF where his arm could still be utilized. Good point.

But Rich, there are ways to make good points without continuing to come off as a condescending prick unable to properly communicate with others. You seem to lack that ability.



I don't sugar coat things. A bad idea is a bad idea and I'm not going to dance around it.


Good for you, that's a fun way to interact with people.

RE: I hope  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14040950 MookGiants said:
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Romine isn't on the roster next year. His bat this year is the definition of a fluke and i'm fucking sick of seeing him behind the plate. He is a poor defensive catcher.


Yup. Your backup catcher should at least be good behind the plate, and he isn't.
RE: RE: RE: Is Voit still on the team?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/16/2018 4:46 pm : link
In comment 14040947 PetesHereNow said:
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I’d rather see Toe than Bird. That’s sad.


If Toe was hitting the way he was last year or earlier this year (before he was sent down), I think it would've been a serious consideration.
it certainly  
MookGiants : 8/16/2018 4:47 pm : link
is possible to not sugar coat things while not coming off as a condescening prick.

RE: it certainly  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14040955 MookGiants said:
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is possible to not sugar coat things while not coming off as a condescening prick.


Yes, thank you.
RE: This is the first time I’ve actually been pissed at Boone  
rich in DC : 8/16/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 14040928 Hsilwek92 said:
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It wouldn’t have made a difference but, shit man, show some fucking fire when arguing that bullshit call on Stanton. This team is lifeless right now, they could’ve used that.


Yeah, showing a little fire is going to bring those dead bats to life. That's the ticket...NOT.

It is almost comical to read the daily put-downs of Boone on this site. I almost expect that tomorrow someone will blame Boone for the Yanks playing a day game today instead of a night game.

The Yanks miss Judge's bat and an effective Sanchez. Sevy is in a slump and they have injuries. That's the reality. Nothing Boone does will change that.

Injuries took away their best starters and backups- Judge, Sanchez, Frazier, Montgomery, Loiasiga, etc. Boone going out to argue a call isn't going to change that.

That's life- using the manager as a scapegoat for those issues is weak.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Andujar to first  
rich in DC : 8/16/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 14040952 Kyle in NY said:
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and Machado at 3B seems more and more likely with each Greg Bird AB



No, Andujar to 1B is probably the most UNLIKELY outcome. Andjuar's primary strength is his arm, with footwork and scooping being weaknesses. At 1B, the strength would be completed negated, while making the weaknesses even more obvious.

Only the NY Post writers and other media with a a huge gap of knowledge about the game would have come up with that blatantly WRONG scenario.



Could see a Soriano-esque move to corner OF where his arm could still be utilized. Good point.

But Rich, there are ways to make good points without continuing to come off as a condescending prick unable to properly communicate with others. You seem to lack that ability.



I don't sugar coat things. A bad idea is a bad idea and I'm not going to dance around it.



Good for you, that's a fun way to interact with people.


I have no problems with it. Enjoy.
RE: RE: it certainly  
bigbluehoya : 8/16/2018 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14040956 Kyle in NY said:
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is possible to not sugar coat things while not coming off as a condescening prick.




Yes, thank you.


I’ve been down this road and can tell you that the tiger doesn’t change it’s stripes. Not worth your energy.

It’s a shame, too, because he’s got some in depth knowledge and good insights, notwithstanding the statement of opinions as fact and talking down to everyone constantly.
RE: RE: it certainly  
rich in DC : 8/16/2018 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14040956 Kyle in NY said:
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is possible to not sugar coat things while not coming off as a condescening prick.




Yes, thank you.


It is possible, but there is no point to it.
What happens if...  
mmf551 : 8/16/2018 4:52 pm : link
This team doesn't even make the wild card game? Or does and gets knocked out?

Do they get rid of Boone? Go on a signing spree? I'm probably venting a bit here after a bad loss, but at some point when does Cashman start getting some heat? Yes the rings with the late 90's Dynasty were amazing, but you're looking at 1 title in 18 years at that point.
RE: RE: RE: it certainly  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 8/16/2018 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14040965 bigbluehoya said:
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I’ve been down this road and can tell you that the tiger doesn’t change it’s stripes. Not worth your energy.



Bingo.
Andujar's taken ground balls at first base,  
bceagle05 : 8/16/2018 4:55 pm : link
so clearly someone in the organization has considered the possibility. I guess they didn't consult with the finest minds BBI has to offer.
RE: I hope  
Hsilwek92 : 8/16/2018 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14040950 MookGiants said:
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Romine isn't on the roster next year. His bat this year is the definition of a fluke and i'm fucking sick of seeing him behind the plate. He is a poor defensive catcher.


Makes me miss Cervelli
RE: RE: RE: it certainly  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14040965 bigbluehoya said:
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is possible to not sugar coat things while not coming off as a condescening prick.




Yes, thank you.



I’ve been down this road and can tell you that the tiger doesn’t change it’s stripes. Not worth your energy.

It’s a shame, too, because he’s got some in depth knowledge and good insights, notwithstanding the statement of opinions as fact and talking down to everyone constantly.


Yeah clearly a knowledgeable poster but I've begun to groan reading his overly long diatribes with unnecessarily capitalized words and a know-it-all attitude.

The other day he made a ridiculously off base defense of the use of AJ Cole in the Mets game where he had the game score and situation wrong as his premise for the entire point. I, along with just about everybody else, disagreed with this clearly wrong point but did so in a respectful manner. Clearly he does not possess the ability nor the desire.

It's fine, if he needs to get his self-esteem from talking to down to people on a message board, I'll let him. I've been on these Yankee threads for a long time. There are plenty of knowledgeable AND respectful Yankee fans to interact with.

Glad I missed this  
section125 : 8/16/2018 4:58 pm : link
shit show. 2 runs in two games against trash...pathetic.
RE: RE: This is the first time I’ve actually been pissed at Boone  
mfsd : 8/16/2018 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14040961 rich in DC said:
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It wouldn’t have made a difference but, shit man, show some fucking fire when arguing that bullshit call on Stanton. This team is lifeless right now, they could’ve used that.



Yeah, showing a little fire is going to bring those dead bats to life. That's the ticket...NOT.

It is almost comical to read the daily put-downs of Boone on this site. I almost expect that tomorrow someone will blame Boone for the Yanks playing a day game today instead of a night game.

The Yanks miss Judge's bat and an effective Sanchez. Sevy is in a slump and they have injuries. That's the reality. Nothing Boone does will change that.

Injuries took away their best starters and backups- Judge, Sanchez, Frazier, Montgomery, Loiasiga, etc. Boone going out to argue a call isn't going to change that.

That's life- using the manager as a scapegoat for those issues is weak.


This kind of common sense isnt often well received, but good post rich
RE: What happens if...  
rich in DC : 8/16/2018 5:02 pm : link
In comment 14040967 mmf551 said:
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This team doesn't even make the wild card game? Or does and gets knocked out?

Do they get rid of Boone? Go on a signing spree? I'm probably venting a bit here after a bad loss, but at some point when does Cashman start getting some heat? Yes the rings with the late 90's Dynasty were amazing, but you're looking at 1 title in 18 years at that point.


I'm hoping that they continue to trust the kids. They still have some upside guys left- Sheffield, Frazier, several relievers.

On the other hand, the Yanks have to sell tickets and fans want winners in NY. I think the current course is the right one long term- play through the growth of the younger guys to build a future foundation. However, if they lose the Wild Card game, I could easily see ownership directing Cashman to get Machado at all costs and to buy up some SP.

I wouldn't agree with it- but they own and run the team, not me.

I think that they could just let a lot of vets (Gardner, Robertson, CC and others) walk, keep one or two of the new SP (Happ and/or Lynn) and "encourage" the young guys to spend more time in Tampa this winter working on skills.

IMO, the hardest decision will be what to do with Andujar. A month ago, I thought he had the next decade as the Yanks 3B locked down. With his defense over the past several weeks, I am questioning that. Do you trade him? Do you keep him and hope he recovers the first half performance? Do you move him (not sure where he would play- scouts have always indicated a corner OF would play with that arm- but is LF in Yankee Stadium too big for him?)

I don't get a good feeling about what would happen this off-season if the Yanks lost the Wild Card game. The Yanks reconfigured at the trade deadline to take on Boston- but might not get to even play them if the bats don't wake up.
Boone  
PaulN : 8/16/2018 5:05 pm : link
Is a horrible manager and Cashman is starting to make the kind of moves that can ruin this entire rebuild. They go out and sign Machado, that will be the beginning of the end. keep these kids, get a fucking manager not a fucking puppet, go get starting pitching. Time to replace Bird, he stinks. They need to add a couple of pricks to the team, guys who want to win mo0re then joke around and have a great clubhouse.
I really don't need to see Bird, Gardy, or Romine  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2018 5:06 pm : link
on this team next year. Just saying.
RE: .  
mitch300 : 8/16/2018 5:07 pm : link
In comment 14040899 arcarsenal said:
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Holy shit, Bird you have to be fucking kidding me.

Bases loaded, no one out, a 6 ERA pitcher on the mound and you hack away at the first fucking pitch.


This drives me crazy. Plus, he pops up weakly in foul territory. If your gonna swing on the first pitch at least hit it hard.
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rich in DC : 8/16/2018 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14040976 Kyle in NY said:
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is possible to not sugar coat things while not coming off as a condescening prick.




Yes, thank you.



I’ve been down this road and can tell you that the tiger doesn’t change it’s stripes. Not worth your energy.

It’s a shame, too, because he’s got some in depth knowledge and good insights, notwithstanding the statement of opinions as fact and talking down to everyone constantly.



Yeah clearly a knowledgeable poster but I've begun to groan reading his overly long diatribes with unnecessarily capitalized words and a know-it-all attitude.

The other day he made a ridiculously off base defense of the use of AJ Cole in the Mets game where he had the game score and situation wrong as his premise for the entire point. I, along with just about everybody else, disagreed with this clearly wrong point but did so in a respectful manner. Clearly he does not possess the ability nor the desire.

It's fine, if he needs to get his self-esteem from talking to down to people on a message board, I'll let him. I've been on these Yankee threads for a long time. There are plenty of knowledgeable AND respectful Yankee fans to interact with.


I admit that I DO make very lengthy posts- but I try and cram as many thoughts as I can into one.

I still believe that bringing in Cole was correct. Others felt Robertson was the better call. I thought the better option was to preserve the better relievers for when you are ahead instead of when you are behind- especially since there is no off-day until next week. Hindsight proves that concern was overblown- and Robertson would probably have been the right call. Still, we only know that today- Boone could not be guaranteed that he would not need to use all of his bullpen against Tampa.

I will concede that knowing what we know now, Robertson would have been the better call.

Machado is the type of "prick" you're describing.  
bceagle05 : 8/16/2018 5:11 pm : link
Until I see Machado sign elsewhere, I consider us the favorites. We tried to acquire him via trade last offseason, and checked in again at the trade deadline, knowing the Orioles were not going to send him here. I'm guessing that was Cashman's way of letting him know we're after him - the same Cashman who acquired ARod with Jeter already on the roster. I doubt Didi or Andujar will discourage us from adding Machado, especially if he lose in the Wild Card Game or first round. We have enough money coming off the books (and talented, cheap, in-house replacements) to make it work.
RE: Machado is the type of  
rich in DC : 8/16/2018 5:17 pm : link
In comment 14040990 bceagle05 said:
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Until I see Machado sign elsewhere, I consider us the favorites. We tried to acquire him via trade last offseason, and checked in again at the trade deadline, knowing the Orioles were not going to send him here. I'm guessing that was Cashman's way of letting him know we're after him - the same Cashman who acquired ARod with Jeter already on the roster. I doubt Didi or Andujar will discourage us from adding Machado, especially if he lose in the Wild Card Game or first round. We have enough money coming off the books (and talented, cheap, in-house replacements) to make it work.


I keep going back and forth on Machado.

On one hand, I want to see the kids make it- Andujar has a good bat- but the last month defensively...

On the other hand, Machado is a special bat- and GREAT defensive 3B. He is also the same age as Judge, Bird and Sanchez, so the Yanks won't get older.

I know Machado wants to play SS- but the defensive metrics are not his friend. Didi is the better defensive player at SS. That means 3B for Machado. That probably also means that Machado will demand more money for pushing him to 3B. Is that a good thing?

I had another thought about Andujar. Now that his bat is proven (even if the glove is a ?), could the Yanks use him to trade for a better 1B?
Well, Cashman traded  
bceagle05 : 8/16/2018 5:24 pm : link
Soriano for ARod, when Soriano was coming off a 40HR season, so there's precedent for moving a young stud prospect to clear the way for a superstar in his prime with a huge contract. I know the Yankees did business differently in those days under George, but they could make it work. Sheffield replaces CC, Frazier replaces Gardy, an in-house arm or cheaper FA replaces Robertson's bloated contract - that's $30 million right there. Plus, McCann's partial commitment is off the books this winter, too.

Flipping Andujar for a 1B or cost-controlled pitcher would become a real possibility in that scenario.
Rich  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 5:29 pm : link
It literally does not matter whether you were right or wrong the other day about Cole. That’s not my point. It’s about interacting in a respectful manner. The point is we all have opinions on here that are contested by others. I made the point regarding the luxury tax earlier which some disagreed with but it was done in a respectful, informative matter. I could tell that my point was well received by Mook, Hoya, and a few others. They respectfully disagreed, made strong points in return. Ultimately it was a healthy discussion about the team we all love and I learned something

That’s all I’m asking for. You are a smart baseball fan, you make a lot of good points and it’s really not a big deal if your posts are long. but ultimately we are all just giving our opinions here. It does the conversation no good to treat opinion as fact and talk down to others. Your response to my suggestion about Andujar was just flat out rude, whether you were right or wrong about what his best position is. You’re probably right that he’s better suited for corner OF if he does switch. But the point is lost in how it is presented

If you truly don’t care what I think, then carry on and you do you. But maybe consider what I say
Anyway  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 5:54 pm : link
that Greg Bird post game interview was interesting to say the least. Anybody see it?
I can understand the annoyance of the  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 6:00 pm : link
Constant griping about Boone. But his management of pitching as well as the lineups are definitely a reason to be critical of his performance as the Yanks manager...for me at least.
RE: Anyway  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14041032 Kyle in NY said:
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that Greg Bird post game interview was interesting to say the least. Anybody see it?


I didnt...details?
Baseball is a difficult game  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 6:04 pm : link
and there are going to be tough stretches so I definitely can see the value in a player staying even keel and not getting too high or low. But Bird definitely seems like a guy that’s maybe a bit too secure in his standing given he’s a career .220 hitter in 161 career games now.

But perhaps I’m reading too much into comments in the media
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 6:13 pm : link
I've been defending Bird for a while now and saying he's got to keep getting AB's so we can find out what the hell he is or isn't - but my patience are wearing terribly thin and I'm about ready to concede that he's not the answer @ 1B.

Fuck man, what an annoying couple of losses. For all the struggles at the Trop, the Yanks have still managed to kick the shit out of the Rays at home pretty regularly. Now we can't even do that.
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chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 6:22 pm : link
In comment 14041050 arcarsenal said:
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I've been defending Bird for a while now and saying he's got to keep getting AB's so we can find out what the hell he is or isn't - but my patience are wearing terribly thin and I'm about ready to concede that he's not the answer @ 1B.

Fuck man, what an annoying couple of losses. For all the struggles at the Trop, the Yanks have still managed to kick the shit out of the Rays at home pretty regularly. Now we can't even do that.


I blame you...didnt you join our ranks at the beginning of this poopy stretch? You jinxed us with your poo poo Mets juju. 😳
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 6:29 pm : link
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I've been defending Bird for a while now and saying he's got to keep getting AB's so we can find out what the hell he is or isn't - but my patience are wearing terribly thin and I'm about ready to concede that he's not the answer @ 1B.

Fuck man, what an annoying couple of losses. For all the struggles at the Trop, the Yanks have still managed to kick the shit out of the Rays at home pretty regularly. Now we can't even do that.



I blame you...didnt you join our ranks at the beginning of this poopy stretch? You jinxed us with your poo poo Mets juju. 😳


LOL, I was waiting to start getting blamed. But they were still playing really well for a while after I became Benedict Arnold. Besides, jinxes aren't real and the only juju that exists is the one that plays for the Steelers.

I'll start the game thread tomorrow and get us back on track. Deal? :)
Greg I usually ignore you but there's nothing to watch tonight  
arniefez : 8/16/2018 7:37 pm : link
so let's have some fun. Who is talking about small ball? What exactly is small ball? I'd wait for your answer but you don't really have an answers.

Is small ball not striking out? I'm all for that. I never bought into K's don't matter. Is small ball valuing defense? I'm all for that too. Is small ball going 1st to 3rd or stealing bases at a high percentage? Sign me up for that too. It used to be called good baseball. If small ball is sacrifice bunting a lot I'll pass on that. But if you're down 3 runs in the 8th inning batting LH and they're giving you 1st base if you bunt the ball toward 3rd base please go ahead and try to bunt. Is that small ball?

You post an awful lot on a lot of threads but you never really have an have anything to say except to attack someone who doesn't clique with you or oh the humanity Sandy Leon got a hit or some below average pitcher got a Yankee out. Real keen insight.

I get you're angry. But direct it at someone else and just ignore me. I'll go back to ignoring you.
RE: RE: This is the first time I’ve actually been pissed at Boone  
Hsilwek92 : 8/16/2018 8:09 pm : link
In comment 14040961 rich in DC said:
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It wouldn’t have made a difference but, shit man, show some fucking fire when arguing that bullshit call on Stanton. This team is lifeless right now, they could’ve used that.



Yeah, showing a little fire is going to bring those dead bats to life. That's the ticket...NOT.

It is almost comical to read the daily put-downs of Boone on this site. I almost expect that tomorrow someone will blame Boone for the Yanks playing a day game today instead of a night game.

The Yanks miss Judge's bat and an effective Sanchez. Sevy is in a slump and they have injuries. That's the reality. Nothing Boone does will change that.

Injuries took away their best starters and backups- Judge, Sanchez, Frazier, Montgomery, Loiasiga, etc. Boone going out to argue a call isn't going to change that.

That's life- using the manager as a scapegoat for those issues is weak.


Wow you really are a fucking prick.

Look here dipshit, if you had read any of my previous posts, you’ll see I’ve DEFENDED Boone on every occasion. So, drop the smartest guy in the room act, it’s old and simply not true.
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chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 8:12 pm : link
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I've been defending Bird for a while now and saying he's got to keep getting AB's so we can find out what the hell he is or isn't - but my patience are wearing terribly thin and I'm about ready to concede that he's not the answer @ 1B.

Fuck man, what an annoying couple of losses. For all the struggles at the Trop, the Yanks have still managed to kick the shit out of the Rays at home pretty regularly. Now we can't even do that.



I blame you...didnt you join our ranks at the beginning of this poopy stretch? You jinxed us with your poo poo Mets juju. 😳



LOL, I was waiting to start getting blamed. But they were still playing really well for a while after I became Benedict Arnold. Besides, jinxes aren't real and the only juju that exists is the one that plays for the Steelers.

I'll start the game thread tomorrow and get us back on track. Deal? :)


Three in a row? Why the fuck not. 😎
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chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 8:16 pm : link
While I do not endorse "small ball" in its purest definition, I definitely think this team needs to drastically change its approach to hitting. Shorten the swings. Get back to taking some pitches. We all love homers, but stringing together singles and putting the ball in play isn't small ball.
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nygnyy274 : 8/17/2018 7:37 am : link
Was released on Wednesday it will cost the Yankees nothing. Not saying this guy is going the babe Ruth here but he is a better fucking option then Shane Robinson for the love of god enough of this guy 3 weeks already. Valencia also has better numbers then walker
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