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adamg : 8/16/2018 10:31 am
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the timing was awful on multiple levels  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 3:10 pm : link
On top of Frazier getting hurt again right before Judge, they traded McKinney away mere hours before Judge got hurt.
Kyle, getting under the tax allows them to go for guys like Corbin,  
yatqb : 8/16/2018 3:11 pm : link
Kershaw, Machado and Harper next year, something we wouldn't otherwise do.

A 50% tax on any revenue over the limit is a huge issue...the Yanks have paid about $320M in fines for being over the threshold over the years.

This team is just not good enough to survive in the playoffs as currently constituted; we need another ace (OR TWO if Sevy doesn't get his shit together) and power bats, whether in the form of Judge, Sanchez or someone else. And I haven't heard of any of those players being on the market at present. Free agency has the chance to take this team from really good to special. I hope we wait for that rather than bring someone in now who takes us over the cap.
They probably could still go after those guys  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 3:14 pm : link
with or without the tax. But I get that Hal operates differently and likely has a certain threshold he wants to hit when balancing the books
what an offensive juggernaut this team is  
micky : 8/16/2018 3:22 pm : link
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Of course, they COULD do anything, but they wouldn't.  
yatqb : 8/16/2018 3:23 pm : link
They're getting under the threshold because they plan to have the flexibility to make some major signings in the future without going over Hal's budget.
I think The Yankees are far enough under the tax  
arniefez : 8/16/2018 3:29 pm : link
to add a bat for 6 weeks. The whole salary isn't charged against them just the prorated portion of the season that's left. But maybe Happ, Lynn & Britton got them too close to be comfortable doing anything else. All of them are 13/12 million dollar players.

Right now next year they have 4 contracts that equal 88 million. Stanton, Ellsbury, Tanaka & Chapman.

Didi, Gray, Betances, Hicks, Kahnle, Torreyes, Severino, Romine & Bird are ARB eligible. This year combined they make about 25 million. Next year that number might be at least in the 40's.

Judge, Frazier, Greene, Holder and Sanchez make nothing. Add Wade and Montgomery if they're on the team and it's about 4 million for all of them.

I think that's 20 players that have a chance to be on 2019 Yankees before free agents. Some of course could be traded. I doubt any of those 20 will be released.

So let's say that's about 135 million in salary. Benefits count against the tax and I think they're about 12 million. So maybe 150 with Gardner's option? The tax next year is going up to 209 from 197.

Robertson, Britton, Happ, Lynn, Walker, Gardner (if they decline his option for 2M) are free agents once the season ends. They paid 6M for McCann and Headley to play elsewhere this year that's done in 2019.

So if Boston wins out and the Yankees crap out I'd be very worried about more dumb contracts coming our way. But I'd be happy to see a lot of Yankee money go into Manny's bank account to play 3B.
Wow  
Jay on the Island : 8/16/2018 3:29 pm : link
Tampa Bay received Shane Baz as the player to be named later in the Archer deal? That's a huge get for them. He is raw but he has a huge upside. Tampa has quite an impressive group of young pitching prospects.
The Rays are a fun team to watch  
arniefez : 8/16/2018 3:31 pm : link
if they actually build that new stadium and are even a medium revenue team they'll contend. They are run very smartly on the baseball side.
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BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 3:34 pm : link
the rays are fucking schooling us.

sad how bad we look today offensively
The Rays are miserable to watch  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 3:35 pm : link
and quite annoying. They are literally bunting their way around the bases. But we can't seem to consistently beat them so credit to them I guess.
So, uh, we're not gonna be this shitty  
bceagle05 : 8/16/2018 3:37 pm : link
for the rest of the season, are we? Gotta believe there's another hot streak in us once we get a little healthier.
Down 3-0 in the 8th with that shift and his speed  
arniefez : 8/16/2018 3:54 pm : link
why wouldn't he bunt to 3B?
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BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 3:56 pm : link
shitty part is nobody was fielding it...stanton may have scored lol
in what world do you call that a homerun  
BigBlue2112 : 8/16/2018 3:56 pm : link
my god
yeah thats a homerun  
micky : 8/16/2018 3:57 pm : link
[rolling eyes]
What is the first base umpire looking at?  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 3:57 pm : link
wow
first base ump is drunk  
micky : 8/16/2018 3:58 pm : link
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and need a replay for this lmfao  
micky : 8/16/2018 3:59 pm : link
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BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:01 pm : link
stanton being on second is a fucking crime.....he was on second and the ball was just rolling in the outfield. easily should be on third, if not scoring if the ump doesnt make a shit call
Fucking bullshit call  
Hsilwek92 : 8/16/2018 4:01 pm : link
At the very least Stanton should be on 3rd. The RF’er gave up on the ball.

Bullshit.
Miggy's recent power surge hopefully continues here  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:04 pm : link
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what the hell is he swinging at?  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:06 pm : link
Jeez....I hope he develops some plate discipline.
RE: what the hell is he swinging at?  
BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14040870 Greg from LI said:
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Jeez....I hope he develops some plate discipline.



HE HAS NEVER HAD PLATE DISCIPLINE
no shit, Einstein  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:09 pm : link
That's why I said it would be nice if he developed some.
RE: The Rays are a fun team to watch  
Jay on the Island : 8/16/2018 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14040830 arniefez said:
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if they actually build that new stadium and are even a medium revenue team they'll contend. They are run very smartly on the baseball side.

They are very good at scouting and developing their players. If they just had some money to spend they could be a very good team. It sucks for their fan base that nearly every good young player won't see a second contract.
Still can't believe the absolute heist they pulled on the Pirates  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:18 pm : link
At least the Yankees didn't pay through the nose for Archer.

Ump wants to call it a day, I see
Personally don't think  
dune69 : 8/16/2018 4:20 pm : link
Kevin Cash does a bad job considering what he is given to work with. Every time he gets a player trending up and needing to get paid, he's traded. Cash may be ok with a well run organization although he grew up in Tampa so he may be happy.
alright goddammit  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:25 pm : link
If they don't at least tie this here, I'm giving up on games for a while
Greg Bird  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:26 pm : link
one time, let's go
Started the season  
dune69 : 8/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
supremely confident in Bird. Now I wish he wasn't up right now.
RE: alright goddammit  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14040886 Greg from LI said:
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If they don't at least tie this here, I'm giving up on games for a while


Really no excuse not to. And Romo was really letting the ump have it on that 3 ball when it really wasnt even that close. Hes got some balls.
one stinking lousy single ties it  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
That's all they need.
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BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
bird fucking sucks
Oh, Bird.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2018 4:27 pm : link
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RE: I think The Yankees are far enough under the tax  
rich in DC : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14040827 arniefez said:
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to add a bat for 6 weeks. The whole salary isn't charged against them just the prorated portion of the season that's left. But maybe Happ, Lynn & Britton got them too close to be comfortable doing anything else. All of them are 13/12 million dollar players.

Right now next year they have 4 contracts that equal 88 million. Stanton, Ellsbury, Tanaka & Chapman.

Didi, Gray, Betances, Hicks, Kahnle, Torreyes, Severino, Romine & Bird are ARB eligible. This year combined they make about 25 million. Next year that number might be at least in the 40's.

Judge, Frazier, Greene, Holder and Sanchez make nothing. Add Wade and Montgomery if they're on the team and it's about 4 million for all of them.

I think that's 20 players that have a chance to be on 2019 Yankees before free agents. Some of course could be traded. I doubt any of those 20 will be released.

So let's say that's about 135 million in salary. Benefits count against the tax and I think they're about 12 million. So maybe 150 with Gardner's option? The tax next year is going up to 209 from 197.

Robertson, Britton, Happ, Lynn, Walker, Gardner (if they decline his option for 2M) are free agents once the season ends. They paid 6M for McCann and Headley to play elsewhere this year that's done in 2019.

So if Boston wins out and the Yankees crap out I'd be very worried about more dumb contracts coming our way. But I'd be happy to see a lot of Yankee money go into Manny's bank account to play 3B.


This site should give you a fairly good idea of where they are. The number are probably not perfect, but definitely close.

Remember NOT to use the first tab, which is only the actual salaries, but the SECOND tab (Yankee Tax Tracker), which uses the AAV, which is used to compute luxury tax.

I would use a rounding error of $2M to be safe. So, the Yanks are probably between $5M- $9M under the luxury tax line- with the real number probably closer to $5M.
Yankee payroll 2018 - ( New Window )
here comes weak contact by bird...  
BigBlue2112 : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
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So fucking done with Bird  
Hsilwek92 : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
Awful
Andujar to first  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
and Machado at 3B seems more and more likely with each Greg Bird AB
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
Holy shit, Bird you have to be fucking kidding me.

Bases loaded, no one out, a 6 ERA pitcher on the mound and you hack away at the first fucking pitch.
Awesome Bird!  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 4:28 pm : link
We needed that!!!!
first pitch popup....nice work  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:29 pm : link
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hate being right  
BigBlue2112 : 8/16/2018 4:29 pm : link
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BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
the yankees have zero timely hitting....its fucking pathetic...i literally cant take this team some times

Wow...two shitty  
LarmerTJR : 8/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
At bats there...
Wish I could say I'm disappointed  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
But that would mean I didn't expect this
Also this is what  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
Is what happens when you go back to back lefties. I hate stacking lefties for thos reason...stupid side armers
Good grief  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 4:30 pm : link
Gardner might be cooked. Nice swing
RE: Also this is what  
BleedBlue : 8/16/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 14040906 chopperhatch said:
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Is what happens when you go back to back lefties. I hate stacking lefties for thos reason...stupid side armers


lefties hit this dude well....

not our lefties though hahah
Watch,  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 4:31 pm : link
Zero runs
Brutal.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2018 4:32 pm : link
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