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adamg : 8/16/2018 10:31 am
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I really don't need to see Bird, Gardy, or Romine  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/16/2018 5:06 pm : link
on this team next year. Just saying.
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mitch300 : 8/16/2018 5:07 pm : link
In comment 14040899 arcarsenal said:
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Holy shit, Bird you have to be fucking kidding me.

Bases loaded, no one out, a 6 ERA pitcher on the mound and you hack away at the first fucking pitch.


This drives me crazy. Plus, he pops up weakly in foul territory. If your gonna swing on the first pitch at least hit it hard.
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rich in DC : 8/16/2018 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14040976 Kyle in NY said:
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is possible to not sugar coat things while not coming off as a condescening prick.




Yes, thank you.



I’ve been down this road and can tell you that the tiger doesn’t change it’s stripes. Not worth your energy.

It’s a shame, too, because he’s got some in depth knowledge and good insights, notwithstanding the statement of opinions as fact and talking down to everyone constantly.



Yeah clearly a knowledgeable poster but I've begun to groan reading his overly long diatribes with unnecessarily capitalized words and a know-it-all attitude.

The other day he made a ridiculously off base defense of the use of AJ Cole in the Mets game where he had the game score and situation wrong as his premise for the entire point. I, along with just about everybody else, disagreed with this clearly wrong point but did so in a respectful manner. Clearly he does not possess the ability nor the desire.

It's fine, if he needs to get his self-esteem from talking to down to people on a message board, I'll let him. I've been on these Yankee threads for a long time. There are plenty of knowledgeable AND respectful Yankee fans to interact with.


I admit that I DO make very lengthy posts- but I try and cram as many thoughts as I can into one.

I still believe that bringing in Cole was correct. Others felt Robertson was the better call. I thought the better option was to preserve the better relievers for when you are ahead instead of when you are behind- especially since there is no off-day until next week. Hindsight proves that concern was overblown- and Robertson would probably have been the right call. Still, we only know that today- Boone could not be guaranteed that he would not need to use all of his bullpen against Tampa.

I will concede that knowing what we know now, Robertson would have been the better call.

Machado is the type of "prick" you're describing.  
bceagle05 : 8/16/2018 5:11 pm : link
Until I see Machado sign elsewhere, I consider us the favorites. We tried to acquire him via trade last offseason, and checked in again at the trade deadline, knowing the Orioles were not going to send him here. I'm guessing that was Cashman's way of letting him know we're after him - the same Cashman who acquired ARod with Jeter already on the roster. I doubt Didi or Andujar will discourage us from adding Machado, especially if he lose in the Wild Card Game or first round. We have enough money coming off the books (and talented, cheap, in-house replacements) to make it work.
RE: Machado is the type of  
rich in DC : 8/16/2018 5:17 pm : link
In comment 14040990 bceagle05 said:
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Until I see Machado sign elsewhere, I consider us the favorites. We tried to acquire him via trade last offseason, and checked in again at the trade deadline, knowing the Orioles were not going to send him here. I'm guessing that was Cashman's way of letting him know we're after him - the same Cashman who acquired ARod with Jeter already on the roster. I doubt Didi or Andujar will discourage us from adding Machado, especially if he lose in the Wild Card Game or first round. We have enough money coming off the books (and talented, cheap, in-house replacements) to make it work.


I keep going back and forth on Machado.

On one hand, I want to see the kids make it- Andujar has a good bat- but the last month defensively...

On the other hand, Machado is a special bat- and GREAT defensive 3B. He is also the same age as Judge, Bird and Sanchez, so the Yanks won't get older.

I know Machado wants to play SS- but the defensive metrics are not his friend. Didi is the better defensive player at SS. That means 3B for Machado. That probably also means that Machado will demand more money for pushing him to 3B. Is that a good thing?

I had another thought about Andujar. Now that his bat is proven (even if the glove is a ?), could the Yanks use him to trade for a better 1B?
Well, Cashman traded  
bceagle05 : 8/16/2018 5:24 pm : link
Soriano for ARod, when Soriano was coming off a 40HR season, so there's precedent for moving a young stud prospect to clear the way for a superstar in his prime with a huge contract. I know the Yankees did business differently in those days under George, but they could make it work. Sheffield replaces CC, Frazier replaces Gardy, an in-house arm or cheaper FA replaces Robertson's bloated contract - that's $30 million right there. Plus, McCann's partial commitment is off the books this winter, too.

Flipping Andujar for a 1B or cost-controlled pitcher would become a real possibility in that scenario.
Rich  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 5:29 pm : link
It literally does not matter whether you were right or wrong the other day about Cole. That’s not my point. It’s about interacting in a respectful manner. The point is we all have opinions on here that are contested by others. I made the point regarding the luxury tax earlier which some disagreed with but it was done in a respectful, informative matter. I could tell that my point was well received by Mook, Hoya, and a few others. They respectfully disagreed, made strong points in return. Ultimately it was a healthy discussion about the team we all love and I learned something

That’s all I’m asking for. You are a smart baseball fan, you make a lot of good points and it’s really not a big deal if your posts are long. but ultimately we are all just giving our opinions here. It does the conversation no good to treat opinion as fact and talk down to others. Your response to my suggestion about Andujar was just flat out rude, whether you were right or wrong about what his best position is. You’re probably right that he’s better suited for corner OF if he does switch. But the point is lost in how it is presented

If you truly don’t care what I think, then carry on and you do you. But maybe consider what I say
Anyway  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 5:54 pm : link
that Greg Bird post game interview was interesting to say the least. Anybody see it?
I can understand the annoyance of the  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 6:00 pm : link
Constant griping about Boone. But his management of pitching as well as the lineups are definitely a reason to be critical of his performance as the Yanks manager...for me at least.
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chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14041032 Kyle in NY said:
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that Greg Bird post game interview was interesting to say the least. Anybody see it?


I didnt...details?
Baseball is a difficult game  
Kyle in NY : 8/16/2018 6:04 pm : link
and there are going to be tough stretches so I definitely can see the value in a player staying even keel and not getting too high or low. But Bird definitely seems like a guy that’s maybe a bit too secure in his standing given he’s a career .220 hitter in 161 career games now.

But perhaps I’m reading too much into comments in the media
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 6:13 pm : link
I've been defending Bird for a while now and saying he's got to keep getting AB's so we can find out what the hell he is or isn't - but my patience are wearing terribly thin and I'm about ready to concede that he's not the answer @ 1B.

Fuck man, what an annoying couple of losses. For all the struggles at the Trop, the Yanks have still managed to kick the shit out of the Rays at home pretty regularly. Now we can't even do that.
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chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 6:22 pm : link
In comment 14041050 arcarsenal said:
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I've been defending Bird for a while now and saying he's got to keep getting AB's so we can find out what the hell he is or isn't - but my patience are wearing terribly thin and I'm about ready to concede that he's not the answer @ 1B.

Fuck man, what an annoying couple of losses. For all the struggles at the Trop, the Yanks have still managed to kick the shit out of the Rays at home pretty regularly. Now we can't even do that.


I blame you...didnt you join our ranks at the beginning of this poopy stretch? You jinxed us with your poo poo Mets juju. 😳
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arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 6:29 pm : link
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I've been defending Bird for a while now and saying he's got to keep getting AB's so we can find out what the hell he is or isn't - but my patience are wearing terribly thin and I'm about ready to concede that he's not the answer @ 1B.

Fuck man, what an annoying couple of losses. For all the struggles at the Trop, the Yanks have still managed to kick the shit out of the Rays at home pretty regularly. Now we can't even do that.



I blame you...didnt you join our ranks at the beginning of this poopy stretch? You jinxed us with your poo poo Mets juju. 😳


LOL, I was waiting to start getting blamed. But they were still playing really well for a while after I became Benedict Arnold. Besides, jinxes aren't real and the only juju that exists is the one that plays for the Steelers.

I'll start the game thread tomorrow and get us back on track. Deal? :)
Greg I usually ignore you but there's nothing to watch tonight  
arniefez : 8/16/2018 7:37 pm : link
so let's have some fun. Who is talking about small ball? What exactly is small ball? I'd wait for your answer but you don't really have an answers.

Is small ball not striking out? I'm all for that. I never bought into K's don't matter. Is small ball valuing defense? I'm all for that too. Is small ball going 1st to 3rd or stealing bases at a high percentage? Sign me up for that too. It used to be called good baseball. If small ball is sacrifice bunting a lot I'll pass on that. But if you're down 3 runs in the 8th inning batting LH and they're giving you 1st base if you bunt the ball toward 3rd base please go ahead and try to bunt. Is that small ball?

You post an awful lot on a lot of threads but you never really have an have anything to say except to attack someone who doesn't clique with you or oh the humanity Sandy Leon got a hit or some below average pitcher got a Yankee out. Real keen insight.

I get you're angry. But direct it at someone else and just ignore me. I'll go back to ignoring you.
RE: RE: This is the first time I’ve actually been pissed at Boone  
Hsilwek92 : 8/16/2018 8:09 pm : link
In comment 14040961 rich in DC said:
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It wouldn’t have made a difference but, shit man, show some fucking fire when arguing that bullshit call on Stanton. This team is lifeless right now, they could’ve used that.



Yeah, showing a little fire is going to bring those dead bats to life. That's the ticket...NOT.

It is almost comical to read the daily put-downs of Boone on this site. I almost expect that tomorrow someone will blame Boone for the Yanks playing a day game today instead of a night game.

The Yanks miss Judge's bat and an effective Sanchez. Sevy is in a slump and they have injuries. That's the reality. Nothing Boone does will change that.

Injuries took away their best starters and backups- Judge, Sanchez, Frazier, Montgomery, Loiasiga, etc. Boone going out to argue a call isn't going to change that.

That's life- using the manager as a scapegoat for those issues is weak.


Wow you really are a fucking prick.

Look here dipshit, if you had read any of my previous posts, you’ll see I’ve DEFENDED Boone on every occasion. So, drop the smartest guy in the room act, it’s old and simply not true.
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chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 8:12 pm : link
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I've been defending Bird for a while now and saying he's got to keep getting AB's so we can find out what the hell he is or isn't - but my patience are wearing terribly thin and I'm about ready to concede that he's not the answer @ 1B.

Fuck man, what an annoying couple of losses. For all the struggles at the Trop, the Yanks have still managed to kick the shit out of the Rays at home pretty regularly. Now we can't even do that.



I blame you...didnt you join our ranks at the beginning of this poopy stretch? You jinxed us with your poo poo Mets juju. 😳



LOL, I was waiting to start getting blamed. But they were still playing really well for a while after I became Benedict Arnold. Besides, jinxes aren't real and the only juju that exists is the one that plays for the Steelers.

I'll start the game thread tomorrow and get us back on track. Deal? :)


Three in a row? Why the fuck not. 😎
For the record,  
chopperhatch : 8/16/2018 8:16 pm : link
While I do not endorse "small ball" in its purest definition, I definitely think this team needs to drastically change its approach to hitting. Shorten the swings. Get back to taking some pitches. We all love homers, but stringing together singles and putting the ball in play isn't small ball.
Danny Valencia  
nygnyy274 : 8/17/2018 7:37 am : link
Was released on Wednesday it will cost the Yankees nothing. Not saying this guy is going the babe Ruth here but he is a better fucking option then Shane Robinson for the love of god enough of this guy 3 weeks already. Valencia also has better numbers then walker
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