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What is something you disagree with most Giants fans about?

OdellBeckhamJr : 8/16/2018 6:29 pm
Personally I feel that Gilbride was a good coordinator.

What about you?
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I still like the cut  
Mike from Ohio : 8/16/2018 6:34 pm : link
of McAdoo's jib.
The offensive line  
Gman11 : 8/16/2018 6:37 pm : link
has been fixed.
That OTAs, Minicamps, training camp,  
Big Blue '56 : 8/16/2018 6:45 pm : link
are indicators of what will transpire during the season. Just because what was “seen” in pre-season turned out to be the case during the season, means nothing, as there are simply 2 guesses involved..Hence, everyone has a 50% chance of being correct.
I disagree with anyone and everyone who says or implies  
mfsd : 8/16/2018 6:49 pm : link
our 2011 Super Bowl was some kind of fluke and that team wasn’t a worthy champion.

Not sure if I disagree with “most” fans about that...but whenever the 2011 team is discussed, the generally accepted view by Giants fans and non Giants fans seems to be that championship team was some kind of fluke, and I think that’s BS.
RE: The offensive line  
robbieballs2003 : 8/16/2018 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14041060 Gman11 said:
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has been fixed.


I don't know one person that has said the line is fixed. It has been improved but who says it is fixed?
That Eli was benched...  
Dan in the Springs : 8/16/2018 6:49 pm : link
I'm in the very small minority that thinks that although it wasn't handled well by McAdoo, the plan last year was fine and Eli's reaction to it (benching himself) was what made it such an ordeal.

Don't want to argue that viewpoint on this thread for the hundredth time though.
OP is right  
Walt in MD : 8/16/2018 6:50 pm : link
Gilbride was very good and a smart qb Luke Elijah was the perfect match. Dumb wide receivers were a part of the problem. My contribution is that jarred bunch was a monster.
Sorry  
Walt in MD : 8/16/2018 6:51 pm : link
Qb like Eli
I feel like  
mrvax : 8/16/2018 6:52 pm : link
the decline of Eli is due to crappy Oline play, not Eli getting older. I believe that Eli has not turned the career corner and if given an average Oline and all the pieces we now have, he'll do a great job.

Many fans disagree.
I always felt Hostetler was better than Phil.  
gtt350 : 8/16/2018 6:53 pm : link
ducking
RE: That Eli was benched...  
christian : 8/16/2018 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14041065 Dan in the Springs said:
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I'm in the very small minority that thinks that although it wasn't handled well by McAdoo, the plan last year was fine and Eli's reaction to it (benching himself) was what made it such an ordeal.

Don't want to argue that viewpoint on this thread for the hundredth time though.


It might literally just be me and you bud.
RE: OP is right  
mrvax : 8/16/2018 6:55 pm : link
In comment 14041066 Walt in MD said:
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Gilbride was very good and a smart qb Luke Elijah was the perfect match. Dumb wide receivers were a part of the problem. My contribution is that jarred bunch was a monster.


My problem with Gilbride was the number of times on 3rd and short he had Eli throwing 30+ yard incomplete passes downfield instead of just moving the chains.
That preseason games give any indication of a how a team  
PatersonPlank : 8/16/2018 6:57 pm : link
will do the regular season. They don't. They are just for player evaluation, putting in new things, and getting in game shape.
I like Olive Garden  
Diver_Down : 8/16/2018 7:02 pm : link
and enjoy ketchup on a hot dog.

Most Giants fans disagree. Come at me.
Been a long time since L.T. Prowled....  
thrunthrublue : 8/16/2018 7:09 pm : link
The meadowlands.......and what they are still missing the most is fast, smart snot bubble creating q.b destroying linebackers.
They  
charlito : 8/16/2018 7:24 pm : link
Can't see how great David Webb is going to be for the Giants.
The extremes  
George from PA : 8/16/2018 7:30 pm : link
The conviction that are fixed
this romantic notion  
UESBLUE : 8/16/2018 8:03 pm : link
that somehow Eli is made of iron and that because he has never been injured he never will be ( and of course i hope i am dead wrong lol).
.  
arcarsenal : 8/16/2018 8:07 pm : link
This is probably the right place for me to poke fun at all of my defenses of Perry Fewell.

I still don't think he was THAT bad... the defensive talent was horrendous for most of the time he was here and we did win a Super Bowl with him as DC. Needless to say, there were many arguments. :)
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/16/2018 8:11 pm : link
Good question. I guess that Eli Apple's career is salvageable.
I think a lot of baby boomers  
Aqua Giants : 8/16/2018 8:19 pm : link
who are Giants fans whined way too much about Shockey. He played hard and just because he wasn't Mark Bavaro, he was looked at as some kind of heel. Always thought that crowd was just annoying. The guy was effective.
RE: this romantic notion  
Aqua Giants : 8/16/2018 8:21 pm : link
In comment 14041107 UESBLUE said:
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that somehow Eli is made of iron and that because he has never been injured he never will be ( and of course i hope i am dead wrong lol).


Well common sense would tell you missing 0 games in 210 games proves he's tough
Phil Simms was a better quarterback than Eli Manning  
Greg from LI : 8/16/2018 8:22 pm : link
No doubt in my mind
I thought it was a good idea  
Pork Chop : 8/16/2018 8:24 pm : link
to have Seahorn return kicks.
I thought it was time to move on  
cjac : 8/16/2018 8:28 pm : link
From Eli.

I love the Saquon pick, but I don’t think Eli still has it.

And Webb blows, so we need our QB of the future.
RE: Phil Simms was a better quarterback than Eli Manning  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/16/2018 8:29 pm : link
In comment 14041129 Greg from LI said:
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No doubt in my mind


My old man would agree with you. He thinks Simms is a HOFer.
That Eli  
joeinpa : 8/16/2018 8:59 pm : link
Is greatest Giants quarterback.

When you ve seen Tittle, Tarkington and Simms, hard to just hand Eli that mantle. Especially when you consider how much tougher he NFL was on quarterbacks in those eras
I hate Dallas more  
rebel yell : 8/16/2018 9:04 pm : link
than I hate Philly. A lot of Iggles hate on BBI...but my dislike of Dallas surpasses it.
Gilbride's offense became  
Doomster : 8/16/2018 9:20 pm : link
soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo predictable...
RE: .  
christian : 8/16/2018 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14041112 arcarsenal said:
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This is probably the right place for me to poke fun at all of my defenses of Perry Fewell.

I still don't think he was THAT bad... the defensive talent was horrendous for most of the time he was here and we did win a Super Bowl with him as DC. Needless to say, there were many arguments. :)


My old man and I were walking through Candlestick for NFCC in 11, line to get in was a bear and already started raining. Hurrying through lower level to get to our seats, and Perry Fewell is getting into the field access elevator. A 9ers fan recognizes him and says "you better bring it" and Fewell just looks at him with this smirk.

I could never tell if I liked him or hated him, but somehow he summoned up some serious D in that run and no one can take that away from him.
RE: Gilbride's offense became  
OdellBeckhamJr : 8/16/2018 9:29 pm : link
In comment 14041165 Doomster said:
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soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo predictable...


you're wrong
RE: RE: .  
cjac : 8/16/2018 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14041167 christian said:
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In comment 14041112 arcarsenal said:


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This is probably the right place for me to poke fun at all of my defenses of Perry Fewell.

I still don't think he was THAT bad... the defensive talent was horrendous for most of the time he was here and we did win a Super Bowl with him as DC. Needless to say, there were many arguments. :)



My old man and I were walking through Candlestick for NFCC in 11, line to get in was a bear and already started raining. Hurrying through lower level to get to our seats, and Perry Fewell is getting into the field access elevator. A 9ers fan recognizes him and says "you better bring it" and Fewell just looks at him with this smirk.

I could never tell if I liked him or hated him, but somehow he summoned up some serious D in that run and no one can take that away from him.


I guess he’s doing a good job with Jalen Ramsey
RE: I hate Dallas more  
cokeduplt : 8/16/2018 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14041152 rebel yell said:
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than I hate Philly. A lot of Iggles hate on BBI...but my dislike of Dallas surpasses it.


I agree
I think  
cokeduplt : 8/16/2018 9:47 pm : link
The giants should’ve drafted Josh Rosen even though I already love Saquon. Just worried about live post Eli which will be here before we know it
I still think...  
jnoble : 8/16/2018 9:49 pm : link
..with better coaching,offensive system and talent around him Dave Brown might have been a pretty good QB for us
RE: RE: That Eli was benched...  
Jimmy Googs : 8/16/2018 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14041071 christian said:
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In comment 14041065 Dan in the Springs said:


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I'm in the very small minority that thinks that although it wasn't handled well by McAdoo, the plan last year was fine and Eli's reaction to it (benching himself) was what made it such an ordeal.

Don't want to argue that viewpoint on this thread for the hundredth time though.



It might literally just be me and you bud.


I'll make it three of us...
The difference between...  
Brown_Hornet : 8/16/2018 9:58 pm : link
... being a realist and being a pessimist.
Fassel  
Les in TO : 8/16/2018 10:07 pm : link
Gets a bad rap because of the super bowl and 49ers debacle but he was also responsible for some amazing wins especially with the 97 team with an offense of no names and rookies
Most of the things I disagree with other fans about  
pjcas18 : 8/16/2018 10:16 pm : link
come around and settle themselves.

I was not an Eli fan out of the gate, hated the trade. Would have preferred stay put and pick Ben.

By 2006 Eli won me over.

Now I felt like it was time to move on from Eli. Don't dislike the Barkley pick, but feel it's going to make getting Eli's successor harder.

I never hated Tiki like some fans did, but I don't put as much stock into the off-field/commentary as some fans, and I loved "on-field" Tiki.

I was fine with letting Coughlin go/retire, unlike some fans

Hated the Dan Reeves hire (can't remember fan consensus then)

oh, and politics, I disagree with most Giants fans on politics.
I sometimes  
capegman : 8/16/2018 10:45 pm : link
have a difficult time defending the fact the team is called the New York Giants but the Stadium is in New Jersey.
What is something you disagree with most Giants fans about?  
Jimmy Googs : 8/16/2018 10:48 pm : link
- That the holding penalty on Keith Hamilton overturning the Giant touchdown vs Ravens in SuperBowl was a bad call. It wasn't.

- That Fassel did his job at the end of the SF playoff debacle in Jan 2003 to work the refs on the rules and get them change their bad call and run another untimed final play. He didn't.

- That Coughlin/Giants did the right thing by letting Bradshaw score at end of the 2012 SuperBowl. Should have been told in advance to stop or fall down and he wasn't.

- That Eli Apple wasn't a panic move. He was and Reese fucked up.

- That Evan Engram would have lasted to Rd 2. I am an Engram fan but a trade down was in order and still would have gotten him.

- That the Jonathan Stewart signing was a ridiculous waste of money. It was.
.  
Go Terps : 8/16/2018 10:55 pm : link
I don't rewrite history or change my opinions solely to make it seem like the Giants know what they're doing. I also don't give them, their front office, their coaches, or their players a pass or the benefit of the doubt simply because they're Giants.

I also can't believe the fans aren't more angry and disgusted with the players that were here these last few years and especially last year. They can all leave.
You don’t dump the baby out with the bath water  
djm : 8/16/2018 11:00 pm : link
..
RE: You don’t dump the baby out with the bath water  
Go Terps : 8/16/2018 11:02 pm : link
In comment 14041226 djm said:
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The past five years have been nothing but bath water.

Want to know who my favorite players on the team are? Eli and the rookies.
RE: What is something you disagree with most Giants fans about?  
speedywheels : 8/16/2018 11:29 pm : link
In comment 14041215 Jimmy Googs said:
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- That Fassel did his job at the end of the SF playoff debacle in Jan 2003 to work the refs on the rules and get them change their bad call and run another untimed final play. He didn't.


Who thought he did his job? I can't recall one person ever saying that

[quote]- That Coughlin/Giants did the right thing by letting Bradshaw score at end of the 2012 SuperBowl. Should have been told in advance to stop or fall down and he wasn't.[quote]

Eli has gone on record that they knew the Pats might let them score and they said they would take a knee. Bradshaw got swept up in the moment and forgot.

Nope. See the below New York Times article...  
Jimmy Googs : 8/16/2018 11:37 pm : link
"A day later, the Giants’ views on the play, and on the concept over all, seemed to vary. Coughlin said he did not instruct Bradshaw to stop short before the play, preferring to take the guaranteed points and not play for a last-second winning field goal when something could go wrong, like a bad snap or a shanked kick.

The running backs coach Jerald Ingram said Bradshaw did the right thing, though he had hoped he would linger on the 1 as long as possible and fall into the end zone only when the Patriots went to tackle him."

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/sports/football/super-bowl-46-after-giants-surreal-touchdown-debates-on-the-strategy.html


“We rehearse a lot of situations, and he understood the clock,” Ingram said. “He just had too much momentum.”
And I have argued endlessly with BBI posters  
Jimmy Googs : 8/16/2018 11:39 pm : link
about Fassel and the San Fran game. All of whom say Fassel couldn't have done anything...
RE: And I have argued endlessly with BBI posters  
Dan in the Springs : 8/17/2018 12:24 am : link
In comment 14041242 Jimmy Googs said:
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about Fassel and the San Fran game. All of whom say Fassel couldn't have done anything...


I've also always felt he could have and should have refused to leave the field. It's burned in my memory how he just walked off as I was screaming at the TV for him to at least discuss the ruling with the refs.

But you're mostly right because the overwhelming consensus on BBI was as you've stated. I've also had that argument many times here.
RE: I hate Dallas more  
Aqua Giants : 8/17/2018 4:30 am : link
In comment 14041152 rebel yell said:
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than I hate Philly. A lot of Iggles hate on BBI...but my dislike of Dallas surpasses it.


What's so strange about that? Especially on here it sounds like most BBI Giant fans actually want to make out with the Eagles, the way they talked about them in my thread.

"Seeing Brady go down at the expense of the Eagles in the Super Bowl was retrieving!"

Now that's what I (and my father) would call a fool!
RE: I sometimes  
Aqua Giants : 8/17/2018 4:31 am : link
In comment 14041212 capegman said:
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have a difficult time defending the fact the team is called the New York Giants but the Stadium is in New Jersey.


Works for me, no tunnels, brides and stupid city traffic. I'm not complaining.
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