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NFT: Mets Minors 8/17/2018- Free Jannis!

DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 7:41 am
AAA Gagnon
AA Kilome
A+ Peterson
Columbia TBD
BK Campusano
Kingsport Rojas
GCL TBD
DSL1 TBD
DSL2 TBD

AAA
Alonso 0-3, 2 k's
Dom 0-4
Guillorme 1-3, BB
Taylor 2 innings 4 hits 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's

AA
Gimenez 2-5, 2b (.378 with 4 walks, 2 SB's over his last 10
Mazeika 0-4, BB
Toffey 2-3, BB
Nido 1-4, BB
Jannis 6 innings 6 hits 0 runs 1 walk 4 k's (Free Mickey! 2 ER allowed over his last 27.1 innings, 7 runs over his last 6 starts, give him an MLB start!)
Villines 1 perfect 1 k (Keeps on truckin)
Blackham 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 3 k's

FSL
Wright 0-3, 2 k's
Vasquez 2-4
Lindsay 2-4, 2 k's (5 for 15, HR... but 7 k's to go with it. Has to make better contact)
Carpio 1-4, 2b
Paez 1-4, K
Taylor 5.2 innings 7 hits 4 runs 3 walks 4 k's
Cobb 1 perfect 2 k's


Columbia
Winaker 3-4, HR (Really strange he's still in Columbia .316 5 homers over his last 10, 23 in November, OPS up to .803... promote)
Manea 1-4, K
Renteria 7.2 innings 4 hits 3 runs 0 walks 9 k's (Best pro start mediocre overall numbers for a soon to be 24 year old but has struck out 25 over his last 19 innings)


BK
JMM 2-3, SB
Cortes 0-4, K
Chambers 0-3, BB
Meyer 0-4
Dirocie 0-3, BB, K
Walker 5 innings 3 hits 0 runs 2 walks 4 k's
Megill 4 innings 1 hit 0 runs 1 walk 8 k's

Kingsport
Santana 3-4, 2b
Kelenic 1-4, BB, K, SB
Vientos 1-4, K
Newton 0-4, BB, 4 k's (Golden Sombrero)
Moreno 1 inning 0 hits 1 run 1 walk 2 k's


GCL
Mauricio 1-4, K
Consuegra 1-3
Palmer 1-4
Reyes 1-4, K
Hardy 2 innings 0 hits 0 runs 3 walks 2 k's
Hammer (debut) 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 1 k


DSL
Mejia 4 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 3 k's
Colina 4 innings 2 hits 0 runs 0 walks 4 k's
Valerio 1-4, BB, K, SB
Hernandez 0-4, BB, 3 k's
What do you think happens  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2018 8:37 am : link
with Jenrry Mejia?

I read he's pitching in the Mets system.

On one hand to fail back to back to back tests like he did (in a 6 month period) indicates you are one of the dumbest people on the planet, but on the other hand he'd be affordable "talent" in the pen where the Mets desperately need it.

Any chance he's in Queens next year?
RE: What do you think happens  
spike : 8/17/2018 8:46 am : link
In comment 14041298 pjcas18 said:
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with Jenrry Mejia?

I read he's pitching in the Mets system.

On one hand to fail back to back to back tests like he did (in a 6 month period) indicates you are one of the dumbest people on the planet, but on the other hand he'd be affordable "talent" in the pen where the Mets desperately need it.

Any chance he's in Queens next year?

If hes still got the skills, yes. Plus he has closer experience.

He could be the cheap setup man to gsellman
RE: What do you think happens  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 9:04 am : link
In comment 14041298 pjcas18 said:
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with Jenrry Mejia?

I read he's pitching in the Mets system.

On one hand to fail back to back to back tests like he did (in a 6 month period) indicates you are one of the dumbest people on the planet, but on the other hand he'd be affordable "talent" in the pen where the Mets desperately need it.

Any chance he's in Queens next year?


Almost certainly be released. He's arbitration eligible and would have to be added to the 40 man if he's not non-tendered.
What would Mejia make in arbitration?  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2018 9:41 am : link
with his history? Vet min or whatever the MLB equivalent is?

If he's almost certain to be release why not try and trade him in a waiver deal? Can you do that with a minor leaguer in his situation? otherwise seems like he's taking innings away from someone else.

or is what the Mets are doing now really an MLB Union thing?
The Mets can bring  
Metnut : 8/17/2018 10:20 am : link
him into camp I believe and cut him before camp is over and not have to pay the majority of his salary.

I think they'll take a look at his stuff in camp before making the decision. Why make the decision before you have to?
If he's not under contract  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2018 10:22 am : link
how can he come into camp? Even on a minor league deal.

Isn't there a deadline, well before camp, when they need to sign him, offer arbitration, tender him, etc?

My  
Pete in MD : 8/17/2018 10:28 am : link
family (mom, dad, uncle, sister, nephews) were at the St. Lucie game yesterday. (Cool story, bro!)
RE: If he's not under contract  
Metnut : 8/17/2018 10:45 am : link
In comment 14041396 pjcas18 said:
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how can he come into camp? Even on a minor league deal.

Isn't there a deadline, well before camp, when they need to sign him, offer arbitration, tender him, etc?


I believe that you can tender him but if you cut him before a certain date (late in March) he doesn't get paid most of the salary. Looking for a link but can't find it right now.
RE: What would Mejia make in arbitration?  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 11:36 am : link
In comment 14041353 pjcas18 said:
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with his history? Vet min or whatever the MLB equivalent is?

If he's almost certain to be release why not try and trade him in a waiver deal? Can you do that with a minor leaguer in his situation? otherwise seems like he's taking innings away from someone else.

or is what the Mets are doing now really an MLB Union thing?


No he was already making 2.6 million, so roughly the same amount. 1/6 would be guaranteed.
I know this is Mets minors  
allstarjim : 8/17/2018 12:14 pm : link
But thought I'd share this about Amed Rosario...hitting .288 in August, but in his last 10 games, batting .333 with 2 HRs, 9 RBI, 3 BB, 4 SB. Would love to see this be the turnaround for Amed we've been waiting for. If he can build on this into next year, he really could be that next-level shortstop the Mets haven't had since Reyes' hey-day.
I don't know how good Rosario will be at the plate,  
Ira : 8/17/2018 12:18 pm : link
but I think it will be much better than the .230's we saw earlier. Also he's showing a little pop lately.
RE: I don't know how good Rosario will be at the plate,  
allstarjim : 8/17/2018 12:22 pm : link
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but I think it will be much better than the .230's we saw earlier. Also he's showing a little pop lately.


The homerun to dead center yesterday to lead off game 1 was a bomb. I just want him to pick his spots and not try to hit homers, though. He has enough power that he will get them by just putting a good swing on the ball and barreling them up. I want him to draw a few more walks and just put the ball in play, get on base, because he can be a 40 or 50 or more SB guy easily.
He's  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 12:58 pm : link
never stealing 50 bases c'mon. 0 players in baseball will do that this year, 2 did last year, both were SB freaks dating back to the minors.
Alsono  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2018 1:04 pm : link
is one off the pace in leading all of minor league baseball in HR's and leads in RBI.
RE: Alsono  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 1:05 pm : link
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is one off the pace in leading all of minor league baseball in HR's and leads in RBI.


The kid with 31... is 19!
RE: RE: Alsono  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2018 1:09 pm : link
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is one off the pace in leading all of minor league baseball in HR's and leads in RBI.



The kid with 31... is 19!


Yeah, Royals farmhand (Matias).

Red Sox prospect (Dalbec) has 31 too, but he's like Alsonso's age, only a level below him. And a Dodgers prospect has 31 too, but he's 23 in A+ (Isabel).

those other guys all have way more K's and less BB's than Alsonso - his OBP is much higher. They all have fewer AB's than Alomso. The 19-year old much less.

.  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 1:11 pm : link
Hernandez 1-4
Valerio 1-4 HR
Cornielly (under the radar having a nice season) 1.2 perfect 2 k's
Escorcha 6.1 innings 8 hits 1 run 0 walks 4 k's
Salazar 1-4, K (signed for 300+ K... 3 extra base hits, for a CO... yikes, only 17 though)
Mauricio 1-2
Consuegra 1-2, SB
.  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2018 1:36 pm : link

Michael Mayer
‏ @mikemayerMMO
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Andres Gimenez all over the best tools in the Florida State League done by Baseball America:

Best Baserunner
Fastest Baserunner
Best Defensive SS
Best Infield Arm
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Shecky : 8/17/2018 1:45 pm : link
In comment 14041562 pjcas18 said:
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Michael Mayer
‏ @mikemayerMMO
7s8 seconds ago

Andres Gimenez all over the best tools in the Florida State League done by Baseball America:

Best Baserunner
Fastest Baserunner
Best Defensive SS
Best Infield Arm


Thats a lot of tools for a guy no tools...
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pjcas18 : 8/17/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14041567 Shecky said:
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Michael Mayer
‏ @mikemayerMMO
7s8 seconds ago

Andres Gimenez all over the best tools in the Florida State League done by Baseball America:

Best Baserunner
Fastest Baserunner
Best Defensive SS
Best Infield Arm



Thats a lot of tools for a guy no tools...


and he's slashing .321/.398/.423 with an .821 OPS in AA at 19 years old. Small sample, but better than shitting the bed.

RE: He's  
Ira : 8/17/2018 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14041518 DanMetroMan said:
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never stealing 50 bases c'mon. 0 players in baseball will do that this year, 2 did last year, both were SB freaks dating back to the minors.


I don't think he'll steal 50, but I could see him becoming a 15-20 hr, 20-30 sb guy and hit .270 - .280 with good d at ss.
RE: He's  
allstarjim : 8/17/2018 2:06 pm : link
In comment 14041518 DanMetroMan said:
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never stealing 50 bases c'mon. 0 players in baseball will do that this year, 2 did last year, both were SB freaks dating back to the minors.


Dude you ever notice you really overreact on fairly innocuous details?

He has the speed to do it, there just isn't an emphasis on base stealing in today's current game. But he has the capability to do it if he so chose to. It wasn't that long ago in baseball's history that players were stealing 60 and 70 bases per season. And in the 80's you had Vince Coleman and Rickey Henderson stealing over 100 bags a year. I'm not equating Rosario to those players, just saying that things in baseball change and this current brand of baseball will also change.
RE: RE: He's  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 2:09 pm : link
In comment 14041585 allstarjim said:
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never stealing 50 bases c'mon. 0 players in baseball will do that this year, 2 did last year, both were SB freaks dating back to the minors.



Dude you ever notice you really overreact on fairly innocuous details?

He has the speed to do it, there just isn't an emphasis on base stealing in today's current game. But he has the capability to do it if he so chose to. It wasn't that long ago in baseball's history that players were stealing 60 and 70 bases per season. And in the 80's you had Vince Coleman and Rickey Henderson stealing over 100 bags a year. I'm not equating Rosario to those players, just saying that things in baseball change and this current brand of baseball will also change.


I respond to absurd claims. Rosario has 21 steals in 160 career games, his career high in the minors is 19... the last 2 players to steal 50 bases are Billy Hamilton and Dee Gordon. Hamilton is the best base stealer since Rickey Henderson and Gordon stole 73 bases his first full season of professional baseball. No, the game is not going to shift toward speed any time in the near future, it's all about launch angle and HR's thanks to the uptic in velocity (which isn't going anywhere).
Over the past  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 2:13 pm : link
5 seasons here are the players to steal 200 or more bases (the 40-50) range

Billy Hamilton
Dee Gordon

Could he one day maybe steal 30? Sure it's possible, Wright did it. But he will never steal 40-50 bases.

Steals/speed  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 2:15 pm : link
are the one thing you can look at in the minors and pretty confidently project to the big leaguers. 56 steals by Altuve 1 season? Not a shock because he stole 42 in 2010 in 110 games in the minors

Ben Revere cracked 40 twice? Not a shock, he stole 40+ all 3 of his full seasons in the minors.
Jose  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 2:22 pm : link
Reyes 58 steals as a 19 year old, Rajai Davis 45 at AAA, Gardner 30 in 60 games and later 37. I've legit yet to find a single player who stole 40 bases who didn't steal 30 in the minors over the past 8 seasons. Maybe one exists that I'm missing but I've yet to find them.
In  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 2:25 pm : link
the pursuit of being honest, I just found 1. Cameron Maybin, but he did steal 27 his first minor league season, and 25 in half a season his second year.
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allstarjim : 8/17/2018 2:25 pm : link
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never stealing 50 bases c'mon. 0 players in baseball will do that this year, 2 did last year, both were SB freaks dating back to the minors.



Dude you ever notice you really overreact on fairly innocuous details?

He has the speed to do it, there just isn't an emphasis on base stealing in today's current game. But he has the capability to do it if he so chose to. It wasn't that long ago in baseball's history that players were stealing 60 and 70 bases per season. And in the 80's you had Vince Coleman and Rickey Henderson stealing over 100 bags a year. I'm not equating Rosario to those players, just saying that things in baseball change and this current brand of baseball will also change.



I respond to absurd claims. Rosario has 21 steals in 160 career games, his career high in the minors is 19... the last 2 players to steal 50 bases are Billy Hamilton and Dee Gordon. Hamilton is the best base stealer since Rickey Henderson and Gordon stole 73 bases his first full season of professional baseball. No, the game is not going to shift toward speed any time in the near future, it's all about launch angle and HR's thanks to the uptic in velocity (which isn't going anywhere).


I don't think it's absurd. He has the speed to do it, and he is still developing as a major leaguer, and he's 22 years old. If he does do it I expect a heartfelt, hand-written apology. ;)
I  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 2:27 pm : link
promise you if he ever steals 40 bases I will 100% apologize and tell you that you were right. I'm opinionated not dishonest.
RE: Over the past  
pjcas18 : 8/17/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14041591 DanMetroMan said:
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5 seasons here are the players to steal 200 or more bases (the 40-50) range

Billy Hamilton
Dee Gordon

Could he one day maybe steal 30? Sure it's possible, Wright did it. But he will never steal 40-50 bases.


I have no argument here, steals are really being phased out of baseball compared with other eras, other than if you think someone can steal 30 bases in a season, saying they "will never" steak 40 seems strange.

the difference between 30 stolen based and 40 stolen bases over the course of a season is less than one half more of a stolen base per week.

Gimenez is a much better bet than Rosario though to steal 40 bases.

Gimenez has 33 in 106 games this year. Rosario never even had 20 in a season in the minors and Gimenez is still 19.

Wright never stole like Gimenez either. Reyes did (better)
Better conversation  
allstarjim : 8/17/2018 2:44 pm : link
because I do respect your knowledge, Dan...how fast does Gimenez get to the majors and what do the Mets do with Rosario and Gimenez position-wise when he gets there?
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DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 2:44 pm : link
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5 seasons here are the players to steal 200 or more bases (the 40-50) range

Billy Hamilton
Dee Gordon

Could he one day maybe steal 30? Sure it's possible, Wright did it. But he will never steal 40-50 bases.




I have no argument here, steals are really being phased out of baseball compared with other eras, other than if you think someone can steal 30 bases in a season, saying they "will never" steak 40 seems strange.

the difference between 30 stolen based and 40 stolen bases over the course of a season is less than one half more of a stolen base per week.

Gimenez is a much better bet than Rosario though to steal 40 bases.

Gimenez has 33 in 106 games this year. Rosario never even had 20 in a season in the minors and Gimenez is still 19.

Wright never stole like Gimenez either. Reyes did (better)


Occasionally you'll see a freak season ie Wright (but even then while not a burner David Wright actually displayed high level baserunning ability in the minors (30/36 his first 171 games), and 3rd season 19/24... so David Wright essentially over 2 professional seasons still stole 49 bases while only getting caught 11 times, and it should be noted Wright stole 30 bases once. Base stealers steal bases in the minors, it's just the way it is. Not being flippant, maybe someone can find some really extreme case where a guy suddenly stole bases but it is beyond rare.
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Eric on Li : 8/17/2018 2:48 pm : link
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Michael Mayer
‏ @mikemayerMMO
7s8 seconds ago

Andres Gimenez all over the best tools in the Florida State League done by Baseball America:

Best Baserunner
Fastest Baserunner
Best Defensive SS
Best Infield Arm



Thats a lot of tools for a guy no tools...



and he's slashing .321/.398/.423 with an .821 OPS in AA at 19 years old. Small sample, but better than shitting the bed.


It's mildly shocking to me how little buzz he's gotten all year. Keith Law for example didn't even have him listed in the honorable mention to his top 50 a few weeks ago. Dom Smith was #40 on that list when he was 20 years old with a lower OPS in A+ than Gimenez had (Smith didn't even reach AA until the following year - and that year he again had a lower OPS than Gimenez has at AA right now and he was on the list in the 40's). Law ranked Rosario as a top 25 prospect from the time he reached A+.

I don't think there's any bias it's probably just recency bias of Smith tanking/Rosario underwhelming so they are playing it safe. Ultimately whatever number he's ranked doesn't matter. He is a very good prospect at a premium position with unknown upside thanks to his age.
Gimenez  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 2:48 pm : link
is very close. It really depends on what they do at 2b going into next season. I find it hard to believe they don't sign a veteran. That being said, the Mets may have to make a decision on McNeil and if he's an option as the every day guy at 3b. I full expect Gimenez to have a smoother transition to the bigs than Rosario. Gimenez is a more talented Tejada with plus intangibles. I think he's going to be a Martin Prado type with 20+ steals per season thrown in.
*any anti-mets bias  
Eric on Li : 8/17/2018 2:49 pm : link
the previous post should say.
Eric  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 2:50 pm : link
I think it's really a matter of guys without plus pure tools tend to be overlooked. I think his hit tool is actually going to be plus, and his speed is plus-ish (his steals inflate expectations of his pure speed, Rosario is probably faster). But again, I think he's going to be a Martin Prado caliber regular offensively... at SS.
I almost want Gimenez to slow down a bit  
ZGiants98 : 8/17/2018 2:55 pm : link
The last thing I want this front office to think is that they are set at around the IF with talent close.

Also, as disturbing as it may be, I really dont want Wright to have any sort of success in September when he inevitably gets called up. Thats all we need is for him to give some front office guy hope he can be in the mix next year. Also would likely completely eliminate the idea they may recoup some insurance next year (not that they factor it anyway) Yuck.
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pjcas18 : 8/17/2018 2:57 pm : link
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5 seasons here are the players to steal 200 or more bases (the 40-50) range

Billy Hamilton
Dee Gordon

Could he one day maybe steal 30? Sure it's possible, Wright did it. But he will never steal 40-50 bases.




I have no argument here, steals are really being phased out of baseball compared with other eras, other than if you think someone can steal 30 bases in a season, saying they "will never" steak 40 seems strange.

the difference between 30 stolen based and 40 stolen bases over the course of a season is less than one half more of a stolen base per week.

Gimenez is a much better bet than Rosario though to steal 40 bases.

Gimenez has 33 in 106 games this year. Rosario never even had 20 in a season in the minors and Gimenez is still 19.

Wright never stole like Gimenez either. Reyes did (better)



Occasionally you'll see a freak season ie Wright (but even then while not a burner David Wright actually displayed high level baserunning ability in the minors (30/36 his first 171 games), and 3rd season 19/24... so David Wright essentially over 2 professional seasons still stole 49 bases while only getting caught 11 times, and it should be noted Wright stole 30 bases once. Base stealers steal bases in the minors, it's just the way it is. Not being flippant, maybe someone can find some really extreme case where a guy suddenly stole bases but it is beyond rare.


I don't think you're being flippant and I generally agree with you, just saying a guy who steals 30 CAN steal 40 (even if unlikely). I would not bet on Rosario stealing 40 bases or even 30 for that matter.

But I also felt like Gimenez is more likely the guy to do it than Rosario anyway - which was my point.
Having Rosario and Gimenez in the middle of our infield  
Ira : 8/17/2018 3:17 pm : link
and at the top of our batting order is a very nice thought.
RE: Eric  
Eric on Li : 8/17/2018 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14041624 DanMetroMan said:
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I think it's really a matter of guys without plus pure tools tend to be overlooked. I think his hit tool is actually going to be plus, and his speed is plus-ish (his steals inflate expectations of his pure speed, Rosario is probably faster). But again, I think he's going to be a Martin Prado caliber regular offensively... at SS.


yeah I get it. I understand why Rosario's louder tools were probably more exciting. It's just surprising to me that a prospect like Dom Smith (1B without flashy tools) was generally ranked better when he was at comparable levels. At an older age no less.
Also short stop Martin Prado with 20+ steals sounds f'ing awesome  
Eric on Li : 8/17/2018 3:33 pm : link
i'd sign for that in a nanosecond.
Re: Jannis  
Vanzetti : 8/17/2018 3:37 pm : link
There was a study done a while ago that showed the good hitters have no more success against the knuckleball than lesser hitters.

So, in other words, Mike Trout is not necessarily better against a knuckleball than Luis Guillhorme


Some guys can hit the knuckleball, other guys can't. And it does correlate with your ability to hit other pitches. Of course, not every pitch a knuckler throws is a knuckleball but the general idea is that if a knuckler can shut down a AA lineup he might be able to do the same thing to a ML lineup if the knuckleball is working.

And is there any Mets fans who wants to see more starts from Vargas over Jannis?
RE: Re: Jannis  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14041648 Vanzetti said:
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There was a study done a while ago that showed the good hitters have no more success against the knuckleball than lesser hitters.

So, in other words, Mike Trout is not necessarily better against a knuckleball than Luis Guillhorme


Some guys can hit the knuckleball, other guys can't. And it does correlate with your ability to hit other pitches. Of course, not every pitch a knuckler throws is a knuckleball but the general idea is that if a knuckler can shut down a AA lineup he might be able to do the same thing to a ML lineup if the knuckleball is working.

And is there any Mets fans who wants to see more starts from Vargas over Jannis?



Admittedly part of wanting to see Jannis is the fact the guy has been at it for so long. 2 seasons as a regular pitcher with the Rays, released, contacted Tom Candiotti to see if he had advice with his knuckler. 2012, 2013, 2014 and part of 2015 pitched in indy ball, Mets sign him. His numbers aren't "incredible" but 3.64 FIP this season, it's not like it's a sideshow act

from 2016- Fangraphs

28. Mickey Jannis, RHP, VIDEO, Double-A

Jannis was a fun change of pace to see in the Arizona Fall League, unleashing his high-70s knuckleball amidst the mid-90s reliever carousel that mostly occupied the mound. He threw a few that flashed plus with surprisingly good athleticism, though it was inconsistent enough that he doesnt look ready yet for big-league hitters. His fastball came in around 90 with fringy command, though it had enough run not to be a meatball pitch he could only throw in three-ball counts. Overall, there was enough skill with his knuckleball to be of interest in the next couple years, but nothing on which to really hang his hat yet.
Zamora called up  
ZGiants98 : 8/17/2018 4:01 pm : link
Cool
Zamora  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 4:02 pm : link
should def be given a look to replace Blevins. He's light on stuff but no downside to see what they have from the left side.
Keith  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 4:12 pm : link
and Victor Black are arguing on twitter lol
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Thats awesome.  
ZGiants98 : 8/17/2018 4:14 pm : link
Lol
.  
DanMetroMan : 8/17/2018 4:30 pm : link
So the Mets have tipped their hands. They have given up on Dominic Smith. He will be traded in the off-season. #Mets
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Jay on the Island : 8/17/2018 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14041670 DanMetroMan said:
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So the Mets have tipped their hands. They have given up on Dominic Smith. He will be traded in the off-season. #Mets

While I was never a big fan of Smith's I would still be interested in a disappointing prospect for disappointing prospect trade. Former 1st rounders 1B/OF Braxton Davidson and RP Jason Hursh for Dom Smith.
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Eric on Li : 8/17/2018 6:09 pm : link
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So the Mets have tipped their hands. They have given up on Dominic Smith. He will be traded in the off-season. #Mets


While I was never a big fan of Smith's I would still be interested in a disappointing prospect for disappointing prospect trade. Former 1st rounders 1B/OF Braxton Davidson and RP Jason Hursh for Dom Smith.


I'd rather trade him for a disappointing prospect in a similar 4A stage of development who can possibly fill a depth need at another position next year as opposed to a low minors lotto ticket, but that's just me. Kind of like 2016 Mallex Smith. Or pre-2017 Brandon Nimmo. Or another team's current Cecchini but at a position of need (ideally a quality defensive OF, C, or a P). Otherwise just keep him in Vegas bc he's probably a better lotto ticket than an A ball guy anyway. Or depth if there's an injury.

I blame the Mets more than Smith for his current development failure. Last year he showed power and he came to camp in good shape this year, he just got hurt and never got on track. He's still younger than Alonso. It would not shock me at all to see him go to a team willing to give him 600 at bats and put up a halfway decent season (750-800ops?) right away. That's nothing special for a 1b so with Alonso moving him is probably the right decision but only if whatever is coming back is helpful. To a team that has nothing at the position he'd be a good roll of the dice.
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