This kid is going to be great for the Giants. The guy is already a starter and makes the Giants front line on defense impossible to run against. Great pick by DG
It's weird that the Giants might have hit on a 3rd round pick! Â
Not to change subject but I was also very pleased with Dalvin Tomlinson. He looked great - built like a true 5T - and showed a nice blend of size, strength, speed and smarts. He's a handful and to my eye looks to have taken the jump you want from year 1 to year 2. Impact player alert.
RE: It's weird that the Giants might have hit on a 3rd round pick! Â
He is not the best player we drafted as that is SB but the most valuable is Hill. Dude is not a pass rusher so the GIants need to find ways to generate a rush but he is stout and along with Snacks and Tomlinson the Giants are strong and stout up front.
I get your point about Hernandez and Saquon, but value also needs to take into account the round the player was picked in.
If you end up with a true starter, a potential stud in the third, the value is very high. I like all three guys, but the further down you get, the more the score matters.
I also agree with not letting these things play out before rolling out the superlatives, first impressions of rookie draft picks who play 1/4 of one pre-season game are often accurate.
about a guy's potential too quickly. I'm glad to see this guy got a full preseason game under his belt before being declared a star.
Come on Mike. Let us feel good about a third round pick for a change. Snacks who I tend to believe, has been touting him constantly and he plays next to him.
I get your point about Hernandez and Saquon, but value also needs to take into account the round the player was picked in.
If you end up with a true starter, a potential stud in the third, the value is very high. I like all three guys, but the further down you get, the more the score matters.
"Most valuable" is not the same as "best value".
It's *impossible* to make any kind of meaningful value assessment of rookies after exactly one preseason game and barely two dozen practices...
To be fair, that's only because Josh Mauro is suspended for the first four games
That turned out to be a blessing. Either way, Mauro is on a one year deal. Hill is long term (presumably).
How is that a blessing? How do we know Hill will play better than Mauro?
We don't. But Mauro isn't Calias Campbell here. Get the young rook in and give him a shot. That's what they've done and guys ike Snacks have been impressed. What's not to like?
To be fair, that's only because Josh Mauro is suspended for the first four games
That turned out to be a blessing. Either way, Mauro is on a one year deal. Hill is long term (presumably).
How is that a blessing? How do we know Hill will play better than Mauro?
We don't. But Mauro isn't Calias Campbell here. Get the young rook in and give him a shot. That's what they've done and guys ike Snacks have been impressed. What's not to like?
Mauro is pretty damn stout. Like you said, Hill is presumably the future, but this is also a win-now team and the veteran Mauro may be able to contribute more now than the rookie Hill. We'll see how Hill does in the first four games and then take it from there.
To be fair, there's a difference between being positive and... this.
How can anyone know that BJ Hill was the most valuable pick we made in this draft on August 17th? It's an insane proclamation to make at this stage and isn't based on anything.
needs and should be getting the reps anyway with Mauro out. When Mauro comes back we get another body for the rotation to keep these guys fresh. He knows the defensive scheme already so it should be a easy transition for Mauro
needs and should be getting the reps anyway with Mauro out. When Mauro comes back we get another body for the rotation to keep these guys fresh. He knows the defensive scheme already so it should be a easy transition for Mauro
I totally understand what you are saying here. I think Mauro will add a lot to the rotation when he returns: leader, fresh, etc.
But I think he'll be a back-up to the rookie Hill and that means Hill is outSTANding!
Not to change subject but I was also very pleased with Dalvin Tomlinson. He looked great - built like a true 5T - and showed a nice blend of size, strength, speed and smarts. He's a handful and to my eye looks to have taken the jump you want from year 1 to year 2. Impact player alert.
He is not the best player we drafted as that is SB but the most valuable is Hill. Dude is not a pass rusher so the GIants need to find ways to generate a rush but he is stout and along with Snacks and Tomlinson the Giants are strong and stout up front.
Let's hope Beale is the third.
Who said anything about a star?
More valuable the SB or Hernandez if he plays as hoped? I don't think so....
If you end up with a true starter, a potential stud in the third, the value is very high. I like all three guys, but the further down you get, the more the score matters.
I also agree with not letting these things play out before rolling out the superlatives, first impressions of rookie draft picks who play 1/4 of one pre-season game are often accurate.
That turned out to be a blessing. Either way, Mauro is on a one year deal. Hill is long term (presumably).
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To be fair, that's only because Josh Mauro is suspended for the first four games
That turned out to be a blessing. Either way, Mauro is on a one year deal. Hill is long term (presumably).
How is that a blessing? How do we know Hill will play better than Mauro?
If you end up with a true starter, a potential stud in the third, the value is very high. I like all three guys, but the further down you get, the more the score matters.
"Most valuable" is not the same as "best value".
It's *impossible* to make any kind of meaningful value assessment of rookies after exactly one preseason game and barely two dozen practices...
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To be fair, that's only because Josh Mauro is suspended for the first four games
That turned out to be a blessing. Either way, Mauro is on a one year deal. Hill is long term (presumably).
How is that a blessing? How do we know Hill will play better than Mauro?
We don't. But Mauro isn't Calias Campbell here. Get the young rook in and give him a shot. That's what they've done and guys ike Snacks have been impressed. What's not to like?
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To be fair, that's only because Josh Mauro is suspended for the first four games
That turned out to be a blessing. Either way, Mauro is on a one year deal. Hill is long term (presumably).
How is that a blessing? How do we know Hill will play better than Mauro?
We don't. But Mauro isn't Calias Campbell here. Get the young rook in and give him a shot. That's what they've done and guys ike Snacks have been impressed. What's not to like?
Mauro is pretty damn stout. Like you said, Hill is presumably the future, but this is also a win-now team and the veteran Mauro may be able to contribute more now than the rookie Hill. We'll see how Hill does in the first four games and then take it from there.
To be fair, there's a difference between being positive and... this.
How can anyone know that BJ Hill was the most valuable pick we made in this draft on August 17th? It's an insane proclamation to make at this stage and isn't based on anything.
I’m not sure about that. I think the staff is very surprised by how advanced Jill is at this point. Good chance he would have beaten out josh
Get out of here with this woe is me nonsense. People have been throwing roses at Dave Gettleman all offseason.
Positivity is allowed here, but only for Jets QBs.
But I think he'll be a back-up to the rookie Hill and that means Hill is outSTANding!
Not really. Lots of teams hit on picks after rd 1 or 2. They fired Reese. The two are linked
Like Carter (#59) too. He has some game too.