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NFT: New York Yankees vs. Toronto Blue Jays - Game 1 - 7:05p

arcarsenal : 8/17/2018 4:48 pm
1. Brett Gardner (L) LF
2. Giancarlo Stanton (R) DH
3. Aaron Hicks (S) CF
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Miguel Andujar (R) 3B
6. Gleyber Torres (R) 2B
7. Greg Bird (L) 1B
8. Neil Walker (S) RF
9. Austin Romine (R) C

Lance Lynn: 119.0 IP, 8-8, 4.46


Lynn has a 0.54 ERA as a Yankee so far and it appears he and Happ are our most reliable starters at this point.

Enough with this fucking horse shit, let's beat up on a bad team here.

Stroman is on the hill for TOR but their lineup isn't up yet.

Stroman is 4-8 with a 5.03 ERA in 96.2 IP. No excuses not to hit this guy around.

Let's go, Yanks!

Stroman is due.  
BigBlue2112 : 8/17/2018 4:53 pm : link
He'll throw a gem.
RE: Stroman is due.  
arcarsenal : 8/17/2018 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14041683 BigBlue2112 said:
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He'll throw a gem.


I don't know that he's "due" - he just had a 7 inning, 2 hit performance 2 starts ago - but got absolutely lit up the start before that. His last one was okay.

Been a mixed bag over the last couple weeks. But he's not having a good year and we need to put some runs on the board.
RE: Stroman is due.  
section125 : 8/17/2018 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14041683 BigBlue2112 said:
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He'll throw a gem.


Would be par for the course.....
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arcarsenal : 8/17/2018 5:12 pm : link
FWIW, this is actually a fairly sensible lineup...
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rich in DC : 8/17/2018 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14041694 arcarsenal said:
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FWIW, this is actually a fairly sensible lineup...


I agree- but am a little concerned that the slumping guys are lumped together- Bird and Torres. Will that come back to bite them late in the game again?
BTW- after some thought  
rich in DC : 8/17/2018 5:53 pm : link
I decided to take Greg's advice and try and be more respectful in comments and debate. I realized I was going too far in comments yesterday. I noted that it was easier to dismiss people anonymously that it is in person- and that I was being a different person online than with people in real life.

Probably good that Greg called me out on that.
I already got that wrong  
rich in DC : 8/17/2018 5:55 pm : link
It was Kyle who called me out on that. Got to get names right- that's part of respect.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 8/17/2018 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14041712 rich in DC said:
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In comment 14041694 arcarsenal said:


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FWIW, this is actually a fairly sensible lineup...



I agree- but am a little concerned that the slumping guys are lumped together- Bird and Torres. Will that come back to bite them late in the game again?


Hopefully not. It's tough because between the injuries and struggling hitters, it's almost hard not to have that happen.

I think Boone (or the computers) are just trying to get as much production out of the top half as possible and hope the pieces come together somehow near the bottom.

If we're going to put runs on the board, I think that Stanton-Hicks-Didi-Miggy foursome is going to have to be the catalyst.

Fingers crossed for some offense, man.. it's been tough sledding lately.
Kudos Rich  
xman : 8/17/2018 6:04 pm : link
in DC.
Chances are that Torres  
section125 : 8/17/2018 6:12 pm : link
breaks out soon.
Chances are Bird doesn’t...  
LarmerTJR : 8/17/2018 6:19 pm : link
I really wish there was another option...
Nice to see  
Jay in Toronto : 8/17/2018 6:20 pm : link
Hicks is playing
we really need  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 7:14 pm : link
some great pitching tonight. I hope Lynn can give us 7.
or we can continue to get lit up by Morales  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 7:17 pm : link
and watch Torres continue to suck in the field.

1-0
Pillar takes advantage of Walker with a bloop  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 7:20 pm : link
2-0
Torres should have gotten  
section125 : 8/17/2018 7:23 pm : link
an error for dropping the ball and it costs a run.
Diaz plates two with a weak grounder up the middle  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 7:25 pm : link
4-0

yeah.
RE: Torres should have gotten  
section125 : 8/17/2018 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14041813 section125 said:
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an error for dropping the ball and it costs a run.


3 runs....looks like an early evening and stay with the Giants until the suck out.
wow - worst play i've ever seen PIllar make  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 7:39 pm : link
triple for Gregorius.

4-1
Andujar with a slashing double to RF  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 7:41 pm : link
4-2
this is some strikezone tonight  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 7:57 pm : link
I wouldn't throw anything in the zone.
11 pitch walk by Bird  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 8:41 pm : link
3 run bomb by Walker.

Get better ABs and good things happen.

5-4
Walker  
dune69 : 8/17/2018 8:41 pm : link
3 run bomb
Lynn  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 8:50 pm : link
gives it right back.

5-5
Can anyone find the record number of rainouts/delays  
mattnyg05 : 8/17/2018 9:08 pm : link
for one team in a single season? I tried googling but I can’t pinpoint it.

Absolutely ridiculous how many Yankee games have been rained out or delayed. It has to be a record.
Andujar  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 9:09 pm : link
can hit a baseball. Pay for someone to teach him to play a serviceable 3B in the offseason and we don't have to grossly overpay for Machado.
Torres busts it down the line  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 9:10 pm : link
to beat out the DP. RBI to the kid.

6-5
RE: Andujar  
rich in DC : 8/17/2018 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14042164 RasputinPrime said:
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can hit a baseball. Pay for someone to teach him to play a serviceable 3B in the offseason and we don't have to grossly overpay for Machado.


Another idea- suppose the Yanks sign Machado to play 3B.

Would anyone be willing to trade Stanton to the Dodgers (Dodgers need OF, have prospects, and Stanton DOES wants to play there) and make Andujar the DH?
RE: RE: Andujar  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 9:17 pm : link
In comment 14042179 rich in DC said:
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can hit a baseball. Pay for someone to teach him to play a serviceable 3B in the offseason and we don't have to grossly overpay for Machado.



Another idea- suppose the Yanks sign Machado to play 3B.

Would anyone be willing to trade Stanton to the Dodgers (Dodgers need OF, have prospects, and Stanton DOES wants to play there) and make Andujar the DH?


Who would the Dodgers give up to take on that much salary? I don't see the Dodgers making that move even if we did. I also don't know what they could offer us that would make up for the potentially huge hole Stanton would leave. That would be different if Frazier could stay healthy.
Stanton  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 9:39 pm : link
over the Yankees BP in CF. First time i've seen one hit there. 431ft with his 31st homer (only 6 behind Ramirez...)

7-5
STANTON!  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/17/2018 9:42 pm : link
We needed that. Let's try to keep the lead now, perhaps?
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arcarsenal : 8/17/2018 9:45 pm : link
Let it rain!
RE: RE: RE: Andujar  
rich in DC : 8/17/2018 9:45 pm : link
In comment 14042183 RasputinPrime said:
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can hit a baseball. Pay for someone to teach him to play a serviceable 3B in the offseason and we don't have to grossly overpay for Machado.



Another idea- suppose the Yanks sign Machado to play 3B.

Would anyone be willing to trade Stanton to the Dodgers (Dodgers need OF, have prospects, and Stanton DOES wants to play there) and make Andujar the DH?



Who would the Dodgers give up to take on that much salary? I don't see the Dodgers making that move even if we did. I also don't know what they could offer us that would make up for the potentially huge hole Stanton would leave. That would be different if Frazier could stay healthy.


The Dodgers are doing the same thing as the Yanks- spending a year below the luxury tax line to reduce their tax rate. They also will shed approximately $70-80M after this season, so even if they were to add Stanton, they would be well below the luxury tax line.

IMO, the Yanks need to add some more SP prospects and maybe an upper level C prospect, as I think the possibility exists that Sanchez might not be the C of the future. The Dodgers have both in spades. In theory, the Yanks could even ask for Cody Bellinger as a 1B as part of the return.

The reason I float a Stanton trade proposal is because he really has not been good in LF, and it looks to me like the Yanks have guys who might be better DHs (Andujar, Sanchez). Stanton did make clear last winter that his goal was to get to the Dodgers. But the Dodgers couldn't add his salary this winter without going over the luxury tax line.

What does the board think?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Andujar  
RasputinPrime : 8/17/2018 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14042240 rich in DC said:
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In comment 14042164 RasputinPrime said:


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can hit a baseball. Pay for someone to teach him to play a serviceable 3B in the offseason and we don't have to grossly overpay for Machado.



Another idea- suppose the Yanks sign Machado to play 3B.

Would anyone be willing to trade Stanton to the Dodgers (Dodgers need OF, have prospects, and Stanton DOES wants to play there) and make Andujar the DH?



Who would the Dodgers give up to take on that much salary? I don't see the Dodgers making that move even if we did. I also don't know what they could offer us that would make up for the potentially huge hole Stanton would leave. That would be different if Frazier could stay healthy.



The Dodgers are doing the same thing as the Yanks- spending a year below the luxury tax line to reduce their tax rate. They also will shed approximately $70-80M after this season, so even if they were to add Stanton, they would be well below the luxury tax line.

IMO, the Yanks need to add some more SP prospects and maybe an upper level C prospect, as I think the possibility exists that Sanchez might not be the C of the future. The Dodgers have both in spades. In theory, the Yanks could even ask for Cody Bellinger as a 1B as part of the return.

The reason I float a Stanton trade proposal is because he really has not been good in LF, and it looks to me like the Yanks have guys who might be better DHs (Andujar, Sanchez). Stanton did make clear last winter that his goal was to get to the Dodgers. But the Dodgers couldn't add his salary this winter without going over the luxury tax line.

What does the board think?


If we can get real value for him, unlike the Marlins, then why not? The only untouchable Yankees at the moment are Judge, Torres, Severino and Sanchez (who I think will rebound).
Frazier will be in LF  
section125 : 8/17/2018 10:26 pm : link
if Gardner is gone. Stanton is a RF. Judge is the better outfielder and could easily be in LF.

I'm not trading Stanton. He is just getting comfortable in NY and it shows. He's ripping the cover off the ball.

I'm also not getting rid of Andujar. He is the batter we thought Bird would be.
I agree  
Bill2 : 8/17/2018 10:43 pm : link
that we should not be sold on Sanchez or Bird or Frazier.

Andujar is two years short of the normal peak five years as a hitter.

I agree that another hitter to cover for any one of the three mentioned (Sanchez, Bird and Frazier) is desirable. I agree that someone is going to have to move positions.

I agree with rich that the one thing we need this winter is another back up to Sanchez...whose size as he ages may not fit that position as it is...even if this years hitting was an abberation
Just call the game already  
Hsilwek92 : 8/17/2018 10:53 pm : link
Toronto’s going nowhere this season. Dragging this out is ridiculous.
RE: Just call the game already  
section125 : 8/17/2018 10:58 pm : link
In comment 14042356 Hsilwek92 said:
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Toronto’s going nowhere this season. Dragging this out is ridiculous.


When was the last time you saw a game called? They'll wait two hours.
RE: I agree  
Hsilwek92 : 8/17/2018 11:09 pm : link
In comment 14042353 Bill2 said:
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that we should not be sold on Sanchez or Bird or Frazier.

Andujar is two years short of the normal peak five years as a hitter.

I agree that another hitter to cover for any one of the three mentioned (Sanchez, Bird and Frazier) is desirable. I agree that someone is going to have to move positions.

I agree with rich that the one thing we need this winter is another back up to Sanchez...whose size as he ages may not fit that position as it is...even if this years hitting was an abberation


Sanchez, despite is great arm should be moved to first. In hindsight, probably should’ve been done a while ago but, oh well. Bird has been on scholarship for a while now and, has shown nothing but flashes. He’s not a Nick Johnson situation, he is what he is at this point.

That being said, if you move Sanchez to first, who is the starting catcher? The internal options are, frankly, dog shit at the moment. Do they use the chips the have to trade for a one? That would be a mistake IMO as, any chips they have should go towards fortifying the rotation in the offseason.

Game called. Yankees win.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/17/2018 11:09 pm : link
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Ballgame  
Neckbone1333 : 8/17/2018 11:10 pm : link
I’ll take it!
RE: RE: Just call the game already  
Hsilwek92 : 8/17/2018 11:10 pm : link
In comment 14042357 section125 said:
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Toronto’s going nowhere this season. Dragging this out is ridiculous.



When was the last time you saw a game called? They'll wait two hours.


Just now. Yankees win. :P
RE: Game called. Yankees win.  
section125 : 8/17/2018 11:11 pm : link
In comment 14042361 Dave in Hoboken said:
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A miracle. I cannot remember a game being called recently.
Good night.  
section125 : 8/17/2018 11:13 pm : link
Yanks win.

Giants win and look good doing so.
RE: Good night.  
chopperhatch : 8/17/2018 11:35 pm : link
In comment 14042366 section125 said:
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Yanks win.

Giants win and look good doing so.


Not worked up over it, but please try and keep in mind that there might be Giant fans deliberately avoiding the Forum and just refresh the Yanks thread to avoid seeing the score. I know its only preseason, but I live out of market and was looking to see the game on replay tmrw without knowing anything about the outcome.

Again, no big, but I couldnt see it until it aired at 9 am tmrw on NFL network.
RE: RE: Good night.  
section125 : 8/17/2018 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14042385 chopperhatch said:
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Yanks win.

Giants win and look good doing so.



Not worked up over it, but please try and keep in mind that there might be Giant fans deliberately avoiding the Forum and just refresh the Yanks thread to avoid seeing the score. I know its only preseason, but I live out of market and was looking to see the game on replay tmrw without knowing anything about the outcome.

Again, no big, but I couldnt see it until it aired at 9 am tmrw on NFL network.


I'll remember that next time.
I think I get why they called the game.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/18/2018 12:04 am : link
I;m not far from the stadium and we have severe thunderstorms going on right now. Also got an emergency warning on my cellphone that there is a flash flood warning in the area from now until 1:45 AM.

Not good.

Really ready for this awful summer to end. It's either severe humidity (everyday) or severe thunderstorms. There is no middle ground. Ready for it to be over.
RE: RE: RE: Good night.  
Hsilwek92 : 8/18/2018 12:38 am : link
In comment 14042387 section125 said:
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Yanks win.

Giants win and look good doing so.



Not worked up over it, but please try and keep in mind that there might be Giant fans deliberately avoiding the Forum and just refresh the Yanks thread to avoid seeing the score. I know its only preseason, but I live out of market and was looking to see the game on replay tmrw without knowing anything about the outcome.

Again, no big, but I couldnt see it until it aired at 9 am tmrw on NFL network.



I'll remember that next time.


I’m sorry but

1) There’s a thousand different outlets who could’ve and probably already had ruined the meaningless pre-season game for you.

2) You’re on a Giant fans message board. Expecting fans to not post about the game, even in a thread that isn’t about football, is ridiculous.

3) Again, meaningless 2nd pre-season game. Get over it and watch the replay on NFL Network.
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