I'm 59 and have never gotten a flu shot or had the flu for that matter. But I've met maybe 2 other people who have never gotten one.
Of course, my doctor recommends it every year. I do work in a fairly large office but again, never came down with it.
Just wondering how much I'm in the minority or if others have never gotten one either.
No. I have never gotten a flu shot.
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Please stop with the faux-science.
One note...a couple of people have mentioned that they don't get it because they don't have kids (or that if they have kids they would get it). The flu can be just as lethal to adults as it is too children (except for the extremely young children (less than a couple of years). And, depending on your age (i.e., if you're getting to be a geezer (and that's probably around colonoscopy age), your immune system begins to deteriorate and, in fact, the elderly actually have *weaker* immune systems than children (again, >2 yrs old).
Protect yourself; protect others.
No. I have never gotten a flu shot.
You know a lot of people...pretty much everyone you know...who seem to be afflicted by either extreme coincidence or extreme psychosomatica.
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That's not an alternate perspective. That's a list of debunked myths and/or fear mongering based on either plain ignorance or an anti-science agenda.
the cross section of people who don't get a flu shot and who do not wear a seat belt are Darwin candidates.
the cross section of people who don't get a flu shot and who do not wear a seat belt are Darwin candidates.
What if I do always wear a seatbelt but DON'T get the flu shot?
Do I like... half-evolve?
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should be who doesn't wear a seat belt.
the cross section of people who don't get a flu shot and who do not wear a seat belt are Darwin candidates.
What if I do always wear a seatbelt but DON'T get the flu shot?
Do I like... half-evolve?
Yes, imagine two overlapping circles, one circle filled with people who don't get flu shots and one circle filled with people who don't wear seat belts.
Some people are in the overlapping section from the two circles and they're the ones we should follow around with a video camera.
Surprisingly, even with technology advancements for seat belts and annoyances built in to cars, almost the same number of people don't wear seat belts as who don't get flu shots. Not a perfect analogy since seat belt usage really only affects yourself, but enough of an analogy in my mind to bring it up since science 100% supports both seat belt usage and flu shots.
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should be who doesn't wear a seat belt.
the cross section of people who don't get a flu shot and who do not wear a seat belt are Darwin candidates.
What if I do always wear a seatbelt but DON'T get the flu shot?
Do I like... half-evolve?
Yes, imagine two overlapping circles, one circle filled with people who don't get flu shots and one circle filled with people who don't wear seat belts.
Some people are in the overlapping section from the two circles and they're the ones we should follow around with a video camera.
Surprisingly, even with technology advancements for seat belts and annoyances built in to cars, almost the same number of people don't wear seat belts as who don't get flu shots. Not a perfect analogy since seat belt usage really only affects yourself, but enough of an analogy in my mind to bring it up since science 100% supports both seat belt usage and flu shots.
Ooh, a VENN DIAGRAM. I remember those. Fancy.
That's where the people who say "I smoked two packs of cigarettes a day for 35 years and I'm fine" generally live.
TB?
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The Flu shot can go fook itself. I got the flu shot once, and got the flu that year.
TB?
I worked in a nursing home many moons ago, and had to get it as a term of employment.
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The Flu shot can go fook itself. I got the flu shot once, and got the flu that year.
TB?
I worked in a nursing home many moons ago, and had to get it as a term of employment.
Interesting.
Of course no you've hit on one of my real peeves. People who work in a health care profession and who should know better (regarding the flu shot). And especially people who work around highly susceptible populations.
We have nurses here one of the local hospitals who shold be smart but who still refuse to get the flu shot. Fortunately, hospital policy requires them to wear a mask. But that, in and of itself, sends a horrible message to the patient population.
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That has exactly nothing to do with the flu shot in 2018.
I've had flu a few times in my life. It is not an experience worth repeating.
It's hard to emphasis the shot's importance with such a poor result. Having a false sense of protection isn't beneficial either.
--Those who can't get immunized;
--The group of individuals without shots who don't get exposed;
--The individuals who are immunized for the wrong strain, but get a weaker bout because they had a shot;
--You.
It's hard to emphasis the shot's importance with such a poor result. Having a false sense of protection isn't beneficial either.
First of all, where's this "outrage" that you're supposedly loving?
Second of all, your data is wrong. I trust the CDC's numbers more than yours:
"The overall vaccine effectiveness (VE) of the 2017-2018 flu vaccine against both influenza A and B viruses is estimated to be 40%. This means the flu vaccine reduced a person’s overall risk of having to seek medical care at a doctor’s office for flu illness by 40%. Protection by virus type and subtype was: 25% against A(H3N2), 65% against A(H1N1), and 49% against influenza B viruses."
Even if it were only 10%, 10% is greater than 0%.
Third of all, what is a "false sense of protection" given to people by a flu shot? Are people going around licking doorknobs after they get the flu shot or something? The people I know who get flu shots take other precautions, such as regular handwashing, keeping distance from people who are coughing and sneezing, getting adequate sleep, drinking lots of water, etc. I don't see people going around with some false sense of protection.
Some people just need to admit that they're scared of needles. Getting a flu shot these days couldn't be much easier or cheaper, and it's scientifically demonstrated to be better than skipping the flu shot.
My wife never got a flu shot because she'd never gotten the flu in her life and hated needles. Discussing it with her was a non-starter. Then she got the flu and felt like she was at death's door for days. She gets the flu shot now.
Since then, I put a reminder in my cell phone to get it when they start having the shots available. That one fucking time was miserable enough to warrant not taking another chance.
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Last year's shot has been sighted as potentially being only 10% effective.
It's hard to emphasis the shot's importance with such a poor result. Having a false sense of protection isn't beneficial either.
First of all, where's this "outrage" that you're supposedly loving?
Second of all, your data is wrong. I trust the CDC's numbers more than yours:
"The overall vaccine effectiveness (VE) of the 2017-2018 flu vaccine against both influenza A and B viruses is estimated to be 40%. This means the flu vaccine reduced a person’s overall risk of having to seek medical care at a doctor’s office for flu illness by 40%. Protection by virus type and subtype was: 25% against A(H3N2), 65% against A(H1N1), and 49% against influenza B viruses."
Even if it were only 10%, 10% is greater than 0%.
Third of all, what is a "false sense of protection" given to people by a flu shot? Are people going around licking doorknobs after they get the flu shot or something? The people I know who get flu shots take other precautions, such as regular handwashing, keeping distance from people who are coughing and sneezing, getting adequate sleep, drinking lots of water, etc. I don't see people going around with some false sense of protection.
Some people just need to admit that they're scared of needles. Getting a flu shot these days couldn't be much easier or cheaper, and it's scientifically demonstrated to be better than skipping the flu shot.
My wife never got a flu shot because she'd never gotten the flu in her life and hated needles. Discussing it with her was a non-starter. Then she got the flu and felt like she was at death's door for days. She gets the flu shot now.
They virtually completely missed last year in guessing the strains. Problem is they need to guess the strains expected to be prevalent by the Summer to have enough vaccination for the season. However as stated above, even that missed vaccine did reduce the effects of those who had the shot and got the flu. It is worth getting.
I only got it once, last year, and will probably get it from now on.
Oddly, I have fantastic health insurance and it does not cover the flu shot.
Getting sick is not an uncommon side effect of a flu shot and no medical professional should argue with you about that. Soreness around the injection site, low grade fever, chills, and achiness are all symptoms that a small percentage of people do get from the flu shot.
but no, the flu shot cannot possibly cause the flu. It's not injecting active flu virus in you, it's inactive. which is why its' impossible, but the body can, and does in some cases, react to a foreign substance entering their body with the side effects I mentioned above.
However like you say, these symptoms last just a couple days at most and are NOTHING like the flu (and I know you didn't say you had the flu, but others have said it). Many times people say they have the flu, but have no real idea what the flu is.
Unless you have texted positive you probably haven't had the flu. And in some cases if your symptoms have persisted longer than 48 hours you might not even be tested because you miss the tamiflu window which would only help lessen the severity and duration of the flu, at this point it's viral and you just need to ride it out (as far as I know).
the flu feels close to death, and people (usually the elderly and really young) can die from it. Last year almost 250,000 people were hospitalized with the flu and over 35,000 died from it.
the scariest thing about all this is that over 25% of people who carry the flu virus show no symptoms, aka they're carriers.
So, some of you who say "I never get sick so I don't get the flu shot" could be infecting your loved ones, colleagues, students, etc. and are just plain ignorant to it or don't care.
Don't get me started on how ludicrous it is to enforce that people have to wear their seat belts. You literally will harm nobody but yourself for not wearing them.
I've seen calls to make the flu shot mandatory, and while I both get the flu shot and wear my seatbelt, I really can't stand forced choices.
No. I have never gotten a flu shot.
I get it every year for the last 8 years and have not had the flu one time during that stretch.
All cuz of the flu...
It’s not something to be taken lightly
Just do it...
Don't get me started on how ludicrous it is to enforce that people have to wear their seat belts. You literally will harm nobody but yourself for not wearing them.l
I've seen calls to make the flu shot mandatory, and while I both get the flu shot and wear my seatbelt, I really can't stand forced choices.
So are you against restricting smoking?
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a personal choice field for me. As adults, we should have the ability to make choices, both good and shitty and even though not getting the shot is a bad choice, I respect people's rights to make them.
Don't get me started on how ludicrous it is to enforce that people have to wear their seat belts. You literally will harm nobody but yourself for not wearing them.l
I've seen calls to make the flu shot mandatory, and while I both get the flu shot and wear my seatbelt, I really can't stand forced choices.
So are you against restricting smoking?
I will admit to being an outlier, but I am. I mean, I support non-smoking areas in public places like bars and restaurants, but I am against outright bans. I think that there's tons of restaurants in the world so if smokers and non-smokers wanted to segregate themselves, then the market should rule. As long as non-smokers are aware that there might be smoking in advance and smokers are aware that their place of choice might not permit smoking, then I think "buyer beware" applies and people can make their own choice.