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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/9/2018 12:50 pm
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GO  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 12:55 pm : link
GIANTS!
LET'S DO THIS!!!!  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 12:56 pm : link
Ready to start with a big fat W!
The first Sunday is officially in gear  
santacruzom : 9/9/2018 12:57 pm : link
Trump has already tweeted about how low the ratings are.
Win or lose.  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 12:59 pm : link
Play well.
Can Barkley run when JAX knows they have to sell out against  
baadbill : 9/9/2018 12:59 pm : link
the run? That's what Giants need today!

LETS GO GIANTS!!!!
Lets see  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 1:01 pm : link
That play action.
RE: Can Barkley run when JAX knows they have to sell out against  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:01 pm : link
In comment 14065936 baadbill said:
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the run? That's what Giants need today!

LETS GO GIANTS!!!!


I hope Jax sells out against the run. It's not a hurricane out there. Please put man on Beckham, please!
Giants win toss  
NewBlue : 9/9/2018 1:02 pm : link
defer
Giants win toss  
KevinBBWC : 9/9/2018 1:02 pm : link

New York Giants
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#NYGiants have won the toss and will start on defense #JAXvsNYG
Ball security !  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:02 pm : link
!
Let's go D  
yankeeslover : 9/9/2018 1:02 pm : link
So pumped...
Stauber with the hit  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:03 pm : link
.
Jenkins just whiffed  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:04 pm : link
at the LOS.

Gotta do better.
No rush  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:04 pm : link
Beaten in coverage
glad there was no flag  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:07 pm : link
I'm expecting one every time something looks hard
Wasnt offsides  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 1:07 pm : link
But didnt matter anyway
Damn dumb penalty  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:08 pm : link
!
not a lot to like on D  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:08 pm : link
so far this series.
Were going to need Bortles to help us  
Jersey Heel : 9/9/2018 1:09 pm : link
By throwing some Bortles passes
Who is  
Jay in Toronto : 9/9/2018 1:09 pm : link
#28?
ok, 3rd and 8  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:09 pm : link
let's make a play!!!!!
Finally  
Jersey Heel : 9/9/2018 1:10 pm : link
A third down stop
Nice play by Apple  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 1:10 pm : link
Good coverage
Good positioning by  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:10 pm : link
Apple -- that's a super nice coverage,

Good play!

Block a kick!
fg time  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:10 pm : link
.
Really nice play by Apple...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:10 pm : link
I am a critic but have to give him credit when he makes a good play. Perfect position on the WR
Apple>Jenkins  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:11 pm : link
On that drive. Who would have thought.
was about to give apple credit...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:11 pm : link
but he didn't even touch the ball
Stadium Seats are empty.  
Diver_Down : 9/9/2018 1:12 pm : link
Is it the rain? Are they still packing up the tailgate and late to the game?
Going to take a few games  
LAGiant : 9/9/2018 1:12 pm : link
To figure out what we have but that was a nice play by Apple on 3rd down.
Defense  
Marty866b : 9/9/2018 1:13 pm : link
Look like they are having a difficult time to where to line up in the back seven.
RE: Stadium Seats are empty.  
Mr. Bungle : 9/9/2018 1:13 pm : link
In comment 14065967 Diver_Down said:
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Is it the rain? Are they still packing up the tailgate and late to the game?

I would guess the latter.
Bortles  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 1:13 pm : link
was very good on that drive, especially the pass he threw over Jenkins. His receivers dropped several other passes. We need to get more pressure.
Jenkins  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:13 pm : link
can't let him get off the LOS he is too fast for that .
Held them to three . Not terrible .
Take the touchback.  
Mad Mike : 9/9/2018 1:14 pm : link
Know your limitations.
FLowers  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:14 pm : link
making his mark early!
Great Job  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:14 pm : link
Flowers, lol
Flowers  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:15 pm : link
What a surprise
I don't think that is tripping,  
Diver_Down : 9/9/2018 1:15 pm : link
but rather a roundhouse kick.
tripping flowers  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:15 pm : link
oye vey
Fu  
yankeeslover : 9/9/2018 1:15 pm : link
Flowers
Flowers  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 1:15 pm : link
Brutal

Put in sub now. He blows

Oh wait, there is no viable sub
Barkley loses a yard  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:16 pm : link
.
looks like  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:16 pm : link
flowers again
lol what a start  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:16 pm : link
hope the hold was out of the end zone.

Flowers on FIRE

Maybe double team campbell?
Great catch  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:16 pm : link
A shame
Cut Flowers  
fivehead : 9/9/2018 1:16 pm : link
Right now.
NHC  
SomeFan : 9/9/2018 1:16 pm : link
What a start
Great pick  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 1:16 pm : link
Jesus Christ
Awesone play  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 1:16 pm : link
Wasted

BENCH this fool
Oh my  
Mad Mike : 9/9/2018 1:16 pm : link
*
Can we bench Flowers  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:16 pm : link
Sigh. F U Reese.
nice start to O  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
....
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!  
NYDCBlue : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
Erek Flowers!
Flowers is a  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
Bum.
Fuck you  
yankeeslover : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
Flowers.. cut his ass. Good bye
if the Giants don't give up a safety here  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
it will be a big victory.

RE: Cut Flowers  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14065985 fivehead said:
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Right now.


Seriously, cut fucking bait. Anyone is better
Fuck me with this BS Flowers  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
He can't even hold decently
RE: NHC  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14065986 SomeFan said:
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What a start


NHC??
Flowers continues his streak as  
SomeFan : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
The WORST offensive tackle in the NFL.
Flowers could lose this game  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
all by himself
So much for the Right Tackle experiment  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
Try something else please!
Parcells  
bluesince56 : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
Would have sat his ass down.
All of Fournette's runs...  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
...have been to the left.
Ringing in the 2018 season  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
The Flowers shit show
the trip was legit...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
but I wouldn't call that a clear hold...one that doesn't happen on every other play
Campbell is a load ...  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
Cmon Flowers get it together ...
Cant start  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 1:17 pm : link
Much worse flowers. Thx
But he is young  
Diver_Down : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
- BBI
Flowers is a fucking retard  
Motley Two : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
and I mean that in the scientific sense.
He is mentally lazy and it makes everything about him sloppy.
Flowers doesn't belong on an NFL roster  
nygmen84 : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
Is he absolutely awful. My God.
Typical Giants football,  
RottenApple : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
Pitiful.
Flowers needs to settle down  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
There isnt much behind him. Latimer should not have taken the ball out of the end zone.
RE: Cut Flowers  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
In comment 14065985 fivehead said:
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Right now.


That is exactly what a fan would do. If we had someone better, the guy would be starting over Flowers
JHC  
SomeFan : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
N is near the J on QWERTY
on another note...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
engram looks good
Flowers is brutal  
Chris684 : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
But this entire drive was setback because of another stupid decision to return a kick.

When will this team learn to just take the ball at the 25?
Take him out!!!!!!!!!  
bigblue18 : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
I know we have no one else
Color me shocked  
santacruzom : 9/9/2018 1:18 pm : link
That our special teams and our offensive line have already made this game even more difficult to win.
My goodness  
illmatic : 9/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
Gotta think about sitting Flowers after 3 damn plays. Awful. We're lucky that wasn't a safety.
What  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
do the Giants expect? Campbell vs. Flowers is a huge mismatch. The Giants have to give him help.
jesus  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
what an early shitshow
kickoff  
giantfan2000 : 9/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
he caught it one of this feet was outside end zone
would have been a safety if he hadn't run it out
Time for a quick kick  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
.
Welp  
nygmen84 : 9/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
It's going to be a very long season yet again.
Great start!  
Jersey Heel : 9/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
Yeah, Giants!
I keep repeating to myself  
Essex : 9/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
Jacksonville has a good defense
This shitty series  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
Started all off because of the idiotic decision to run the kick out of the endzone
barkley nothing  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:19 pm : link
.
3 plays into the year  
Wreckingcrew : 9/9/2018 1:20 pm : link
And Ereck Flowers already thoroughly showed that he is useless
thank god  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:20 pm : link
got some room
OK, I'm happy  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:20 pm : link
with no safety and a punting window.

that had debacle and defensive points written all over it.
Wonder what Flowers  
CromartiesKid21 : 9/9/2018 1:20 pm : link
PFF rating so far is
That was a huge play right there..  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:20 pm : link
to give us a decent shot at a real punt
Flowers  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 1:20 pm : link
has always sucked and still does. He should be benched. Play backup
Wow...  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 1:20 pm : link
New offense, same old Flowers.
Gross start  
Motley Two : 9/9/2018 1:21 pm : link
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3 & out sort of lol  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:21 pm : link
.
An inauspicious  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 1:21 pm : link
Start.
Decent punt  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:21 pm : link
I hate Flowers so much. I mean, tripping?
Wheeler can't be worse  
PatersonPlank : 9/9/2018 1:21 pm : link
.
Latimer  
Jerz44 : 9/9/2018 1:21 pm : link
returning the kick was stupid to begin with.

I don't care who the RT back up is, he has to be better than Flowers. I'd rather sign herzlich back and put him at RT than flowers.
Throw the damn ball !  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:21 pm : link
lol
He is a piece of shit.  
fivehead : 9/9/2018 1:21 pm : link
take his helmet and make him walk home in the rain.
We knew the RT position  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 1:21 pm : link
was going to be an issue. Didn't think it would surface so soon though.

At least Ellison already  
CromartiesKid21 : 9/9/2018 1:22 pm : link
Contributed more this season than for MacAdoo's offense
Mr. Gettleman.....  
Reb8thVA : 9/9/2018 1:22 pm : link
To answer your rhetorical question, you did not do enough to fix the OL.
Aint the end of the world  
Manning to Burress : 9/9/2018 1:22 pm : link
Yea - flowers is getting worked. Still long way to go (which could be a bad thing). But lets go boys. shake off the jitters and get out there again
If you call that a hold  
section125 : 9/9/2018 1:22 pm : link
then you had better call that on every down...
Whats missing here is Eli  
bluesince56 : 9/9/2018 1:22 pm : link
Moving around. Made two nice throws.
I wonder how Eli feels  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:22 pm : link
Seeing Tiki in the end zone behind him.
Gettleman  
Marty866b : 9/9/2018 1:22 pm : link
Ddin't replace the weakest link on the roster.
New players  
Gman11 : 9/9/2018 1:22 pm : link
New coaches.

Same old shit
RE: the trip was legit...  
ColHowPepper : 9/9/2018 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14066005 Thunderstruck27 said:
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but I wouldn't call that a clear hold..
Most of the football watching universe would call it exactly that, clear cut.
Guys...it is not just Flowers  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:23 pm : link
I know he is taking the heat because of the penalties but the entire OL is not playing well still. Barkley has been met in the backfield on all of his runs. Hernandez got destroyed too.
RE: This shitty series  
santacruzom : 9/9/2018 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14066027 montanagiant said:
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Started all off because of the idiotic decision to run the kick out of the endzone


It will happen again too.
RE: Latimer  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14066042 Jerz44 said:
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returning the kick was stupid to begin with.

I don't care who the RT back up is, he has to be better than Flowers. I'd rather sign herzlich back and put him at RT than flowers.

Had no momentum going forward.
Defense needs to give us a better series  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:23 pm : link
and set the offense up with not awful FP.

Not how to start it up though. No one near Fournette on the screen.

Hat cam sucks tho.
to fuckin easy...  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
cmon D
Well....Eli looked pretty good. 3-3 on that drive  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
Essentially.
I've  
darren in pdx : 9/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
seen worse not called for holding..refs are going to be hard on him after that leg whip..
geez I was hoping for at least a semblence of an O  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
to start season. But hold over 2017 Flowers says NO
Allright!  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
That's good to see!

Good pressure up the gut
Boom  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
Great pass rush, great coverage
RE: If you call that a hold  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14066050 section125 said:
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then you had better call that on every down...

He threw him to the ground. That usually gets the call.
Sack  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
Thats positive
RE: RE: the trip was legit...  
section125 : 9/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
In comment 14066058 ColHowPepper said:
Quote:
In comment 14066005 Thunderstruck27 said:


Quote:


but I wouldn't call that a clear hold..

Most of the football watching universe would call it exactly that, clear cut.


But then you have to call that every down. No more a hold than any other play.
Flowers  
GoBlue6599 : 9/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
Great Start buddy
I would bench him
AWESOME  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:25 pm : link
WAY TO GO JANORIS!
Great INT  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:25 pm : link
.
WOW  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 1:25 pm : link
What an INT by the Jackrabbit
Wow  
Mike in NY : 9/9/2018 1:25 pm : link
What feet
What a play by Jenkins  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 1:25 pm : link
Basically ran the WR's route for him and made the pick
nice defensive series  
dune69 : 9/9/2018 1:25 pm : link
.
That;s more like it.  
Mad Mike : 9/9/2018 1:25 pm : link
Take a mulligan on the first drive and let's do something here.
Awesome pick  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:25 pm : link
Jack Rabbit perfect coverage ,,
Thanks Blake!  
Jerz44 : 9/9/2018 1:25 pm : link
.
Jenkins!  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:25 pm : link
Makes up for his poor play on the long completion.

Please please put a TE next to Flowers...
JJ!  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 1:26 pm : link
Tippie toes! Jackrabbit pick!
Jackrabbit!  
wigs in nyc : 9/9/2018 1:26 pm : link
love this guy
RE: Flowers  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14066073 GoBlue6599 said:
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Great Start buddy
I would bench him


That's why you are not a coach...
Way to go Jenkins!  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 1:26 pm : link
Great int!
Nice INT Jenkins!  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:26 pm : link
that was a great play to stay in
Nice play Janoris  
GoBlue6599 : 9/9/2018 1:26 pm : link
Int baby
RE: Well....Eli looked pretty good. 3-3 on that drive  
Azul Grande : 9/9/2018 1:26 pm : link
In comment 14066065 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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Essentially.


except for when he nearly threw the ball way over odell's head on a five yard pass.
Jack Rabbit  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:26 pm : link
all over it!
Hahaha!  
idiotsavant : 9/9/2018 1:26 pm : link
Told you fuchers.

The Betch, multi DL, pressure and INTs.
Ok good pick  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 1:27 pm : link
Time to settle in offense
JJ- wow!!!  
Ira : 9/9/2018 1:27 pm : link
.
JACKRABBIT!!!!!!!  
bigblue18 : 9/9/2018 1:27 pm : link
!!!!!!!!!
sack and then  
SHO'NUFF : 9/9/2018 1:27 pm : link
JACKRABBIT!!!
Lets see some #88  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:27 pm : link
loosen up that D a lil bit.
A few plays late, but I would seriously consider benching Flowers  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:27 pm : link
right now.
Great  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
INT by Jenkins.
Barclay!  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
Welcome!
And the TE  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
Was next to Flowers.
RE: RE: If you call that a hold  
Diver_Down : 9/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14066070 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
Quote:
In comment 14066050 section125 said:


Quote:


then you had better call that on every down...


He threw him to the ground. That usually gets the call.


Ereck's hands were outside the shoulder pads. Normally, not called, but his actions caused Campbell's hips/upper torso to twist (that is the hold). Throwing him to the ground didn't help. Flowers has to accept that he has a target on his back after the roundhouse kick earlier.
Ramsey  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
running his yap
Use  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
play action, and throw to the TEs to open the field.
Saquon just barged Ramsey at the end of that run  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
And now Eli finds Odell for 24 yards
Loved the shot Barkley gave Ramsey  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
At the end of that run
RE: sack and then  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14066096 SHO'NUFF said:
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JACKRABBIT!!!


we call that the SackRabbit scheme!

OBJ!!!!!
Wooooooo  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:29 pm : link
Throwing the rock.....
Unleash  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 1:29 pm : link
The arsenal of weapons
RE: And the TE  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14066102 RobCarpenter said:
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Was next to Flowers.


Or was that Wheeler on that first down?
Under the new rules  
Mike in NY : 9/9/2018 1:29 pm : link
How about Roughing the Passer
Wheeler Sighting  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:29 pm : link
What up
wheeler in as tackle eligible  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/9/2018 1:30 pm : link
next to Flowers to give him help.
MAn, OBJ  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:30 pm : link
so good to see you back
Passing game  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:30 pm : link
looking good
Eli rolls and finds Odell  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 1:31 pm : link
at the Jaguars 8. 1st and goal
McAdoo ..  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:31 pm : link
Never ever called a play like that.

Lets punch it in now
Decent job by Eli on the roll out...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:31 pm : link
.
Eli is slinging it  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 1:31 pm : link
Amazing what a running game does to help a passing game.
Engram  
Mike in NY : 9/9/2018 1:32 pm : link
Whiffed
Not sure  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 1:32 pm : link
Why you run over the right side
Weak blocking  
SomeFan : 9/9/2018 1:32 pm : link
by Engram
Jesus that play call?  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 1:32 pm : link
.
Interesting idea but it doesn't work  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 1:32 pm : link
They try an end around to Odell but the Jags were ready. FG coming up
Horrible  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
In the red zone. That reverse was stupid.
ok that was a stupid play  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
.
What kind of play was that  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
.
Shit play calling  
dep026 : 9/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
Fucking atrocious.
Would have liked at least one pass  
Jersey Heel : 9/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
Into the end zone
If OBJ had taken that inside the first block instead of outside  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
That would have been a TD
not great red zone results  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
but the Jags defense is a tough customer.

Might not want to really rely on plays that take so long to develop

Some good signs in that series tho!
if engram is in  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
inside the 10 he needs to be a WR..he can't block for shit
is shurmur  
Jerz44 : 9/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
calling plays? i realized i never learned who was this year
...  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/9/2018 1:33 pm : link
Shouldve kicked the FG on 3 rd down if you are gonna that play smh
Sucks to claw  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:34 pm : link
your way down there and then only get three.
Offensive call  
XBRONX : 9/9/2018 1:34 pm : link
pure genius
I never realized  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 1:34 pm : link
Barkley is an inch taller than OBJ and a few pounds heavier.

...  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 1:34 pm : link
I Know most hate the call but imo its good., OBJ can score but more importantly you gaurantee three. rainy day, pts are vital after a takeaway there....
Nice offense there  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:34 pm : link
turn the TO into pts
RE: is shurmur  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14066134 Jerz44 said:
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calling plays? i realized i never learned who was this year


Yes!
Convert on the TO  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 1:34 pm : link
Love a TD there, obvi, but Ill take the 3.

Now give it back Bortles, keep giving us the ball.
Nice offense there  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:35 pm : link
turn the TO into pts
RE: if engram is in  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14066133 Thunderstruck27 said:
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inside the 10 he needs to be a WR..he can't block for shit

Agreed, needs touches in the green zone.
That was a good series  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/9/2018 1:35 pm : link
After that disastrous first possession.. Some of Yall need to relax. We are just getting started.
RE: ...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14066139 BleedBlue said:
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I Know most hate the call but imo its good., OBJ can score but more importantly you gaurantee three. rainy day, pts are vital after a takeaway there....


The ONLY good thing is that it gives defenses something else to think about. Still.. I would rather see a pass into the end zone there.
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
Keep that one in your brain, next time the argument comes up that Engram is better outside than he is inline.

He's just not a very good blocker.
RE: if engram is in  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14066133 Thunderstruck27 said:
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inside the 10 he needs to be a WR..he can't block for shit


The problem is that Flowers cant either.

The Giants probably need to use 6 OL in that situation.

Terrible job  
Sammo85 : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
by Engram on that run play. You have to commit to the block to prevent penetration like that and forget your release to option route.
I didnt love the calls  
Chris684 : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
down near the goal line, but I am liking that Shurmur is moving Eli around and I like even better that Eli looks good in doing so.
Playcalling was strange in the redzone??  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
again?? Not only did that look so conservative, didn't make sense? Throw the ball!
Not  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
a fan of reverse on third and goal from the eight, especially in this weather. Thought some of Eli's passes were off target. Some good running by Barkley.
Good series..some observations  
DC Gmen Fan : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
1 Eli looks a little more mobile, but is throwing a little behind the receivers on the run

2 Barkley has that quick ability to hit the line and adapt - that will be huge for us and has been missing for a long time

3 Much better footwork by Flowers
Some might not agree, but I didn't mind that 3rd down call  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:37 pm : link
Get the ball to a playmaker in OBJ in a creative way. If it doesn't work, they have the FG. It also may set up something later. I also liked the call earlier on the drive where he motioned to the backfield and then received the swing pass.
Barkley looks like hes nicked up a bit  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 1:37 pm : link
.
Fournette  
Jerz44 : 9/9/2018 1:37 pm : link
is a good runner. Giants D seems to almost be able to bottle him up, and then he pops a few more yards.
RE: Good series..some observations  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14066153 DC Gmen Fan said:
Quote:
1 Eli looks a little more mobile, but is throwing a little behind the receivers on the run

2 Barkley has that quick ability to hit the line and adapt - that will be huge for us and has been missing for a long time

3 Much better footwork by Flowers


Their lines are beating our lines.
RE: RE: Good series..some observations  
DC Gmen Fan : 9/9/2018 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14066157 Boy Cord said:
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In comment 14066153 DC Gmen Fan said:


Quote:


1 Eli looks a little more mobile, but is throwing a little behind the receivers on the run

2 Barkley has that quick ability to hit the line and adapt - that will be huge for us and has been missing for a long time

3 Much better footwork by Flowers



Their lines are beating our lines.


I was trying to be a little positive :)
RE: Good series..some observations  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14066153 DC Gmen Fan said:
Quote:
1 Eli looks a little more mobile, but is throwing a little behind the receivers on the run

2 Barkley has that quick ability to hit the line and adapt - that will be huge for us and has been missing for a long time

3 Much better footwork by Flowers


At least he didnt trip anyone. And he had help on some of those plays.
I can't help but wonder if OBJ  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/9/2018 1:40 pm : link
had an option to pass there. Maybe even designed that way but everyone looked covered so OBJ took the safer route and went down.
Have to stop this running game  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:40 pm : link
.
where's  
CMicks3110 : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
snacks
Run D  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
Needs to be better. To many tackles of Fornette by DBs
JAX feeding Fournette  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
to set up play action soon
Another big from last year was on the 3rd down conversion  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
in the red zone. Last year, we would have had 2-3 guys in the same area short of the sticks. This call had layers. Shepard was in the flat drawinbg attention and Lattimer on the same side running a skinny post (I think) drawing a safety. This left a hole for OBJ to run to from the opposite side of the formation. If they committed to doubling OBJ, either Lattimer is open near the end zone or Shepard is open a little short, but with space to run. We didn't have too many plays like that last year.
Come on Snacks  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
You need to get stouter in the middle there
Jags OL is starting to dominate  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
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I dont like this substitutions there  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
Snacks needs to be in there right now
RE: Run D  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14066163 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Needs to be better. To many tackles of Fornette by DBs

Yep. They're going to keep doing it if they can rip off 4-5 every run.
Shit  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:42 pm : link
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how the hell was that not a hold on JAX  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:42 pm : link
on giants right end there?
No pressure at all  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:42 pm : link
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He has a lot  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:43 pm : link
of time back there.
RE: I can't help but wonder if OBJ  
bumpsinthenight : 9/9/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14066160 USAF NYG Fan said:
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had an option to pass there. Maybe even designed that way but everyone looked covered so OBJ took the safer route and went down.


I thought it set up as an option play
How was that not holding  
NYDCBlue : 9/9/2018 1:43 pm : link
Someone was tackled.

I think Wynn.....
Fournette seems like a really  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:44 pm : link
unpleasant assignment to tackle.
Where are the LBers in stopping the run?  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:44 pm : link
They getting caught up on blocks?
They're going to  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:45 pm : link
wear our D down fast with these long drives
Barwin miss assignment?  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:46 pm : link
Defense just miscommunication on that
BJ Goodson  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:46 pm : link
looks like he's running with a full diaper on
LB just let the TE  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:46 pm : link
stroll out into the flat,

Aside from three plays (the sack, the pick and the Apple PD) this defense looks just awful.
Their  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 1:46 pm : link
huge OL is controlling the LOS, which is impressive considering that our DL is so stout. Fournette is a punishing runner.
RE: RE: I can't help but wonder if OBJ  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14066174 bumpsinthenight said:
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In comment 14066160 USAF NYG Fan said:


Quote:


had an option to pass there. Maybe even designed that way but everyone looked covered so OBJ took the safer route and went down.



I thought it set up as an option play
It looked like there may have been an option there. But, if there wasn't, it sets up the possibility for it later.
This is death by a thousand cuts.  
bumpsinthenight : 9/9/2018 1:47 pm : link
Have to hold in the red zone. Bend and dont break
Wynn with a nice play  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:47 pm : link
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Ogletree beat again!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:47 pm : link
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So, we still have no consistent pass rush  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
and can't cover RBs or TEs. Jeez, this is painful.
Jacksonville has really turned it around  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
They have it all now. I'd say their biggest weakness is Bortles as he can be inconsistent and sometimes make stupid plays. He is the best they have at QB though.


how was that not a holding call?  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
obvious...but they call on flowers
got very lucky there  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
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Thought the defense  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
Would blitz Bortles more than this. The new DC is on his heels right now
Holy crap!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
Bottles too much time!
Oh baby  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
Almost both ways
oh damn  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
almost a pick, then almost a 6.

so glad he didn't the handle on the deflection
Fuck  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
we still caught a break
Excellent  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
stops!
Holding  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
Anybody
Nice stop by the defense..  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
.
Jaguars  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
Also having issues
Keep them out of the end zone. Nice!!  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
Bortles looks good, but could have two picks already.
Bend but dont break.....  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
Better then giving up 6
Fournete  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
w/ a hammy?
was that jessie armstead?  
Jerz44 : 9/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
talking to ogletree?
Looks like pulled hamstring  
SomeFan : 9/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
for Fournette
That last play was a whole rollercoaster  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 9/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
In six seconds.
OK ok  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
so G-Men answer with good red zone defense. Started with stuffing the run on first down.

If the Giants can just stuff that first down run, it'll be huge help.

Fournette grabbing his hammy after the 3rd down play.
very lucky to just had given up 3 there  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
very
Well, Jenkins, at least, looks to be in top form  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
He is a pleasure to have in the defensive backfield.
Ray Ray fast  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
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Defense holds  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 1:50 pm : link
Jenkins almost got pick #2. Jags convert the FG to lead 6-3
It appears  
Photoguy : 9/9/2018 1:51 pm : link
the Jags shooting themselves in the foot with the int and the hands to the face, is keeping this close.
RE: So, we still have no consistent pass rush  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:51 pm : link
In comment 14066187 Matt M. said:
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and can't cover RBs or TEs. Jeez, this is painful.


Ogletree was brought in to help there, but it hasnt shown up yet.
pretty sure Wynn got held again  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:51 pm : link
on that last 3rd down.
Was that Ogletree  
Jay in Toronto : 9/9/2018 1:51 pm : link
Who got beat on the Td?
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 1:51 pm : link
I'd be very careful with Barkely in this weather, coming off not practice and his hamstring.
No disrespect to Spags  
Sammo85 : 9/9/2018 1:51 pm : link
But I really like Bettcher and his philosophy. Good fit. Right guy at the right time.
Offense  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:51 pm : link
have to loosen up this defense ..
get the TE's involved Shepard quiet .
RE: Was that Ogletree  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:52 pm : link
In comment 14066214 Jay in Toronto said:
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Who got beat on the Td?


Yeah
95 B J Hill  
blueberry : 9/9/2018 1:52 pm : link
I don't see him in there
.  
KevinBBWC : 9/9/2018 1:52 pm : link

Pat Leonard Retweeted John Reid

Something to watch closely #JAXvsNYG

Pat Leonard added,
John Reid
Verified account @JohnReid64
Leonard Fournette was grabbing his hamstring when he came off the field.
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Nice  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 1:53 pm : link
hold by the D, but they are punishing us pretty effectively. We need to get a sustained drive, if only to rest the D. Thought for sure Jenkins would have another INT, and then that Paul would catch if for a TD.
This is relaxing. Opening day is usually hot.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 1:53 pm : link
Feels like October. Just kicking back watching the Giants at home. Now, time for SB or OFB to break a long one.
BJ Hill  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 1:53 pm : link
Not seeing much from this guy. Is he starter material? Might of missed out on Rasheem Green.. smh.
Theyre playing hard  
Dave on the UWS : 9/9/2018 1:53 pm : link
and competing. Thats a start.
He has to catch that  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:54 pm : link
despite the penalty
So Jags TE 88 tackles  
section125 : 9/9/2018 1:54 pm : link
Wynn on the play Wynn made - no holding.

On the pass that Jenkins dropped, the Giants DE was tackled right in front of Bortles - no call.

And you all want to crucify Flowers when there were two very clear holds not called..holding is too subjective like most NFL calls.
Shitty call!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:54 pm : link
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That's a shit call  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 1:54 pm : link
you could call that on every play
BS call  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:54 pm : link
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That was a WEAK call.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 1:54 pm : link
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What a BS  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 1:55 pm : link
Call
weak sauce on Engram penalty  
wigs in nyc : 9/9/2018 1:55 pm : link
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wtf  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:55 pm : link
was that call?
Put Barkley in the  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 1:55 pm : link
game.
Terrible penalty call  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/9/2018 1:55 pm : link
.
That's pass  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 1:55 pm : link
Interference?
Where was the pass interference  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 1:55 pm : link
? Horrible call
RE: That was a WEAK call.  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:55 pm : link
In comment 14066231 Boy Cord said:
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Worse if he'd caught it.
Tiki Taki Call  
idiotsavant : 9/9/2018 1:55 pm : link
Sftu ronde. Slippery little bitch.
Ronde Barber is really good.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 1:56 pm : link
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Man, OBJ  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:56 pm : link
is triple covered
Total BS  
Giant John : 9/9/2018 1:56 pm : link
Call. What crap. Cmon refs get it right.
Looked like a late  
SomeFan : 9/9/2018 1:56 pm : link
hot on the shepherd catch
RE: No disrespect to Spags  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:56 pm : link
In comment 14066216 Sammo85 said:
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But I really like Bettcher and his philosophy. Good fit. Right guy at the right time.
Why not disrespect to Spags? He was vastly overrated. He only had 3 really good seasons as a DC and it was only when he had absolutely dominating DL play. Te rest of his career, his defenses (as DC and HC) have been mediocre at best to putrid. He has overseen some of the historically worst Ds.
Great job by Jacksonville Medical Staff  
Kanavis : 9/9/2018 1:56 pm : link
Keep stretching out that ever so slightly torn hamstring. Let's go from grade I to II!!
3 and out  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:56 pm : link
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that's the kind of BS penalty call  
markky : 9/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
that tilts the field. what BS
That Fournette  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
injury might be our one saving grace.
This game is being officiated  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
Based on reputation
Poor punt by Dixon  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
It seems like he's kicking the ball 30 yards
that could have been PI by Shepard  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
on that last play.
Dixon has to be better than that.  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
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why take  
CMicks3110 : 9/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
Barkley out. Don't get it?
Dixon  
Marty866b : 9/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
We traded a pick for this guy? No better then Wing!
3 and out  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
After D on field for half the second quarter

This is exactly how a bad script reads

Jax controlling entire tempo of game
OK, fournette looks out at least for a series  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:58 pm : link
this defense has to find a way to not let Blake fucking Bortles convert 3rd down after 3rd down.

This isn't Joe Montana running the Niners' O here. Come on!
That penalty was so freaking ticky tack!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:58 pm : link
he touched the LBer....I didnt see any push that would have impacted the LBers ability to make a play?! Ultimately screwed us on that drive.
RE: Tiki Taki Call  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14066240 idiotsavant said:
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Sftu ronde. Slippery little bitch.


I hear your. It was a crap call. Rinse made it sound like a no brained. Overall I like him.
OPI?  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 1:58 pm : link
Thats as bad a call as Ive ever seen. The defender wasnt even moved and hardly touched at all. Thats fucking ridiculous. Took a series away from the Giants. Terrible call.
RE: OK, fournette looks out at least for a series  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14066257 jpkmets said:
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this defense has to find a way to not let Blake fucking Bortles convert 3rd down after 3rd down.

This isn't Joe Montana running the Niners' O here. Come on!


Hes questionable to return
Absolute  
geelabee : 9/9/2018 1:58 pm : link
BS call on Engram cost Gmen a series
RE: OK, fournette looks out at least for a series  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14066257 jpkmets said:
Quote:
this defense has to find a way to not let Blake fucking Bortles convert 3rd down after 3rd down.

This isn't Joe Montana running the Niners' O here. Come on!


If Fournette has a hammy, he isnt coming back in this weather IMO.
We  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 1:59 pm : link
need to do a better job getting yards on first down. Third and long against this defense is an extremely difficult situation. Our D also got no rest, but Fournette is out.
I guess that's how good we are going to have to be  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:59 pm : link
it seems that the Giants always have to beat the other team and the refs.
RE: 3 and out  
lax counsel : 9/9/2018 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14066256 M.S. said:
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After D on field for half the second quarter

This is exactly how a bad script reads

Jax controlling entire tempo of game


Looks like game 17 of the 2017 season. No run game, short slant routes that are swallowed up. Solder looks good, however, nice to have competent play at LT.
that's just awful, atrocious coverage  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:00 pm : link
how is there a WR with no one inside of 5 yards.

Just awfu
Holy shit was he wide open!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:00 pm : link
...free Safety not even close!
Hes got all day back there  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 2:00 pm : link
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pitch and catch  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:00 pm : link
no pass rush
Adams wasnt this bad  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 2:01 pm : link
Reilly is brutally bad
Turnover aside, underwhelmed  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:01 pm : link
By this defense.
Yup. No ...  
Crispino : 9/9/2018 2:01 pm : link
pressure.
We're getting totally  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:01 pm : link
outplayed right now.
We're  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 2:01 pm : link
not getting anywhere near Bortles. Football games at every level are won at the LOS.
No pressure at all by the D  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 2:01 pm : link
Dial up some blitz's
Giants being schooled  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 2:01 pm : link
And outclassed by superior team

D is blown
Piss poor defense!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:01 pm : link
..Collins missed tackle
And cant defend the run ....  
Crispino : 9/9/2018 2:01 pm : link
either.
Terrible Tackling by Giants  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 2:01 pm : link
All game long so far!
wow  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:02 pm : link
this defense aside from a few good individual efforts simply does not look NFL-calibre in any way.


He lost control  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 2:02 pm : link
Its a fumble. Fuck you ronde
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 2:02 pm : link
That is a fumble.
Giants allowing  
mrvax : 9/9/2018 2:02 pm : link
Bortles to look great.
Martin got blown off  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 2:02 pm : link
And Collins missed
It is  
Rick5 : 9/9/2018 2:02 pm : link
hard to watch this defense.
nice d  
micky : 9/9/2018 2:02 pm : link
.
Collins has been poor in  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 2:02 pm : link
run support.
Seems unlikely we win this  
Mad Mike : 9/9/2018 2:02 pm : link
*
RE: ...  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14066284 christian said:
Quote:
That is a fumble.


I think Yeldon was down first
We arent good  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
Sigh
Why challenge that?  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
There was no turnover or TD called
wow  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
that actually may be a fumble
Ronde Barber is awful  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
.
Kareem Martin  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
Banks and Papa going off on Kareem Martin
Wow  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
that was pathetic where are the LB 's Collins ?
Not too good men ....
RE: Why challenge that?  
kelsto811 : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14066293 Simms11 said:
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There was no turnover or TD called


Bc if its a fumblenits giants ball, touchback
it was a fumble  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
but it won't be overturned if the philly game is any indication
This looks a lot like last years team so far.  
Crispino : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
Not good in any phase. Thanks for all the talent Jerry.
How could this be reversed?  
SomeFan : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
.
Not going to get overturned  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 2:03 pm : link
...
That ball was 100% moving  
illmatic : 9/9/2018 2:04 pm : link
before he hit the ground. It's a fumble.
He threw that challange  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 2:04 pm : link
To give the D a breather
Pretty close  
eclipz928 : 9/9/2018 2:04 pm : link
but not enough to overturn the call.
I wish it weren't so  
Jay in Toronto : 9/9/2018 2:04 pm : link
But disappointed in Ogletree so far
Mid. Season. Form.  
fivehead : 9/9/2018 2:04 pm : link
All phases.
ball moved before his knee hit...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 2:04 pm : link
but can't see loss of control until after the knee hits.
More of the same  
Marty866b : 9/9/2018 2:04 pm : link
We are getting beat up upfront on both sides.
Would of liked to have some  
map7711 : 9/9/2018 2:04 pm : link
More freaking replays before a damn commercial. Thanks Fox.
Difficult to score when you dont have the ball.....  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:04 pm : link
Defense getting schooled
Think that is a fumble  
section125 : 9/9/2018 2:04 pm : link
before the goaline....
RE: This looks a lot like last years team so far.  
santacruzom : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14066300 Crispino said:
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Not good in any phase. Thanks for all the talent Jerry.


Let's remember that our D will look better when OV is healt...

...oh, shit.
Poor tackling, no pass rush, WRs finding too much space  
Dang Man : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
And the offense has been worse than the defense.
same old  
UESBLUE : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
giants :(
Way too fucking easy!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
Sickening
LC  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
Brutal.
Like a hot  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
knife through butter.
That was too easy  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
.
Collins...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
Jesus.
that one's on collins  
Jerz44 : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
too slow to react
Defense looks just like last year  
NYerInMA : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
Unable to get off the field on 3rd down, giving up huge chunks of yardage.
JAX made that too easy  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
just marched right down the field
How many  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
Times they going to fall for that play?
Yikes...  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
All you have to do is turn Collins hips and hes toast in coverage. Terrible.
Collins  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 2:05 pm : link
lol !
How many times are we going to let that roll out happen?  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 2:06 pm : link
.
Looking an awful lot like last years team  
redbeard : 9/9/2018 2:06 pm : link
....
No fight  
Joey in VA : 9/9/2018 2:06 pm : link
No heart and a dearth of talent. This should be a fun season.
This next posession  
kelsto811 : 9/9/2018 2:06 pm : link
Is where the Giants would consistently go 3 and out last year. Lets see if it is more of the same.
This isn't  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:06 pm : link
a team you want to play catchup with. Watch out, Eli.
No freaking pressure on Bortles at all!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:06 pm : link
Run defense not getting it done either.
If we could start a drive  
halfback20 : 9/9/2018 2:06 pm : link
without a 10 yard penalty, or two, maybe we can move the ball. We'll see. Plenty of time to try here.
That is Collins one weakness...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
he is over aggressive. It's a curse and a blessing depending on whether his instinct is correct...in that case he made the wrong choice
So who's looking good  
Somnambulist : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
For a high first round pick next year?
Eli  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
Gonna have to open it up ...or this is gonna get away
quickly ....
This now plays into Jags hands....  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
.
They're fundamentally just a better side.  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
dominant on both lines, and they've got a linebackers and a functioning secondary.
Looks like Dallas opening game  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
Last season

Total domination both sides of the ball
Giants need a scoring drive  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
Here
I was very worried  
Rick5 : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
about the D going into the season. This isn't helping.
Secondary suspect  
Canton : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
.
I feel like  
santacruzom : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
That sort of play would be good to call near end zone when your running back is Saquon Barkley.
RE: If we could start a drive  
family progtitioner : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14066334 halfback20 said:
Quote:
without a 10 yard penalty, or two, maybe we can move the ball. We'll see. Plenty of time to try here.


Exactly
They  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
just pounded us into submission.
Giants arent good enough to survive bad punting.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/9/2018 2:07 pm : link
Thats been true since Feagless final, fading year.
RE: They're fundamentally just a better side.  
mattlawson : 9/9/2018 2:08 pm : link
In comment 14066339 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
dominant on both lines, and they've got a linebackers and a functioning secondary.



This is like Eli playing himself in 2008 right now
That was a  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:08 pm : link
really big first down.
Where's Latimer?  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:08 pm : link
Take the top off the defense
mattlawson  
CMicks3110 : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
that's a good analogy
Mannings playing well  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
.
you guys  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
panic sooooo quickly
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
Another good reminder for all those insane projections on numbers for Barkley -- without a competent line he's not going to tear up the league.
there ya go  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
its about time ..
Someone has to step up
Campbell is wrecking the offense .
3 points???  
NewBlue : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
RE: They're fundamentally just a better side.
mattlawson : 2:08 pm : link : reply
In comment 14066339 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
dominant on both lines, and they've got a linebackers and a functioning secondary.



This is like Eli playing himself in 2008 right now
The pass game actually looks like it is improved.  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
Better playcalling, routes, personnel, and formations. The protection isn't great, but they are moving the pocket enough. But, the run blocking was supposed to be improved and it is possibly worse. Every single run there is a defender in the backfield.
TRAID SHURMUR!!!!!!!!!  
Mr. Bungle : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
!!!!!!
RE: So who's looking good  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
In comment 14066336 Somnambulist said:
Quote:
For a high first round pick next year?


Hopefully a perennial all-pro LT.
To no suprise,  
SimpleMan : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
we are getting absolutely worked at the line on both sides of the ball. Hard to do much with that.
The playcalling is awful??  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
What the fuck?? Looks like Mcadoo offense??!!
Kareem Martin sucks  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 2:09 pm : link
His inability to stop those outside runs. And we change Offensive staffs, and still want to run out of the shotgun like a dumbass.

The shit absolutely never works. Never
RE: No fight  
BlueHurricane : 9/9/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14066330 Joey in VA said:
Quote:
No heart and a dearth of talent. This should be a fun season.


Its not even half time. Why do you guys even watch?
RE: RE: So who's looking good  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14066360 Boy Cord said:
Quote:
In comment 14066336 Somnambulist said:


Quote:


For a high first round pick next year?



Hopefully a perennial all-pro LT.


Oops. We have Solder. Someone to replace Flowers.
Campbell  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 2:10 pm : link
is awesome. Flowers. Solder. It doesn't matter.
RE: Where's Latimer?  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14066351 Anakim said:
Quote:
Take the top off the defense
He helped set up the 3rd down conversion to OBJ in the red zone.
RE: ...  
lax counsel : 9/9/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14066355 christian said:
Quote:
Another good reminder for all those insane projections on numbers for Barkley -- without a competent line he's not going to tear up the league.


Which makes it even more puzzling as to why you waste a seconds overall draft pick on a running back when your oline cant block. Oh well, cant do anything about it now.
3 points for this 20 million QB 20 million WR  
NYSports1 : 9/9/2018 2:10 pm : link
And high price LT and touched by hand of God RB. Was this not supposed to be a dominant year on offense and Eli to be 2011 Eli.
Big Blue Blogger  
Marty866b : 9/9/2018 2:10 pm : link
Great point about the horrible punting.How in the world didn't they bring in more punters in camp? This Dixon looks the same as Wing. Awful!
RE: The pass game actually looks like it is improved.  
FStubbs : 9/9/2018 2:11 pm : link
In comment 14066358 Matt M. said:
Quote:
Better playcalling, routes, personnel, and formations. The protection isn't great, but they are moving the pocket enough. But, the run blocking was supposed to be improved and it is possibly worse. Every single run there is a defender in the backfield.


It's interesting. Barkley is going to look like a bust if this is how this year goes - and it won't be his fault.
Flowers blows but that was offsides  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:11 pm : link
.
RE: 3 points for this 20 million QB 20 million WR  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 2:11 pm : link
In comment 14066370 NYSports1 said:
Quote:
And high price LT and touched by hand of God RB. Was this not supposed to be a dominant year on offense and Eli to be 2011 Eli.


stfu youre obnoxious
The human turn style  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 2:11 pm : link
.
God  
SomeFan : 9/9/2018 2:11 pm : link
awful Flowers
offense getting goofy now  
micky : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
.
Time to bench Flowers wow  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
.
Flowers is a  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
fucking abomination.
Flowers  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
(Said in Homer Simpsons voice when he says, Flanders.)
Flowers is really having himself a game, isnt ...  
Crispino : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
he?
Flowers  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
is a freaking disaster ..
worse than i could imagine
10 chucking and duckin now.  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
.
How was that dude not  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
Offsides?
Take Flowers out back,  
RottenApple : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
And shoot him.
I knew Martin wasn't good enough,  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
and the Giants decided to make him a starter? lol typical. This team lacks quality players, you can see it clearly. You see on the Oline, DLine, Safety, LB's, etc..
GORGEOUS throw by Eli  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
First Down
Great throw by Eli to Shepard on the sideline  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:12 pm : link
on 3rd and 12
The dude was offsides  
eclipz928 : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
you can tell because even the defender paused after realizing he came before the ball was snapped
TAKE 'EM TO CHURCH  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
We're in the Redzone
Shep s the whole offense  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
today
Erik motherfucking flowers.  
mattlawson : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
.
Eli looks  
Reb8thVA : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
Great
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
Eli Manning looks fantastic.
And THAT is  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
what OBJ does for this team!
That was a TD.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
.
Flowers  
Percy : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
Can we just cut this guy at the half? (Haven't read the thread and may not be the first to ask this today.)
ok we are in position to score here...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
need 7 pts. Cannot go into the locker room down by too much.
I think Flowers hates this team  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:13 pm : link
.
Flowers is not even a competitive player  
Chris684 : 9/9/2018 2:14 pm : link
at this point. His body language after that last sack was awful.

I dont care how good the Jags front is. At least compete. Get Wheeler in there if Flowers wont.
Wtf  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 2:14 pm : link
thrown the damn ball
Run blocking sucks asss today  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:14 pm : link
.
Church  
Sammo85 : 9/9/2018 2:14 pm : link
is one of the worst cover safeties in the NFL.
Finally the refs  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 2:14 pm : link
make a call in our favor...
Bucs absolutely destroying the Saints right now  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 2:14 pm : link
31-17
Stop dancing  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 2:14 pm : link
Hit the hole.
This next play will be to setup the FG  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:14 pm : link
...
...  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 2:14 pm : link
trhe jags should thank barry church...that was an easy 6
Calais Campbell is what Olivier Vernon should be  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:15 pm : link
Except Campbell is bigger
Same problem  
Giant John : 9/9/2018 2:15 pm : link
Cant run the ball, cant block.
Ok enough with the announcers and the Jag suck fest!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:15 pm : link
Its sickening
3rd and long  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 2:15 pm : link
once again, ugh
That draw play on 1st down was a bad call  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/9/2018 2:15 pm : link
.
so  
Azul Grande : 9/9/2018 2:15 pm : link
did we all agree to pretend that, when a new offense goes up against the strongest defense in the NFL, we should write off the team after three drives?
If they can protect  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 2:15 pm : link
Eli...
Jesus..  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 2:15 pm : link
our last run play every single olineman is on the ground before barkley hits the los
HAHAHAH  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:15 pm : link
Fuck off, Ramsey!
Woo hoo!!  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:15 pm : link
.
Wtf was Ramsey thinking  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:16 pm : link
.
OBJ singlehandedly  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:16 pm : link
going to get us a TD!
Great offensive  
Cariboo : 9/9/2018 2:16 pm : link
Weapons!
Both sacks  
Jay in Toronto : 9/9/2018 2:16 pm : link
4 DL
Fuck that defense is fast and strong  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:16 pm : link
.
I'm absolutely amazed that Beckham  
eclipz928 : 9/9/2018 2:16 pm : link
is actually getting these calls. Used to the refs screwing him over.
Wheres the low hit on manning?  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 2:16 pm : link
Where?
Has Omameh been our best O-Lineman today?  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:17 pm : link
Not that that's saying much, but go figure...
They cant cover OBJ  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 2:17 pm : link
If we could just block. Solder cant even block today
Solder beaten  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 2:17 pm : link
.
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 2:17 pm : link
Solder making sure he's getting in on sucking action.
Eli might  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:17 pm : link
not make it through this half! Brutal!
ol becoming a seive again  
micky : 9/9/2018 2:17 pm : link
.
Clock management ...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:17 pm : link
not good on this drive. A few plays ago the draw to Barkley is something I questioned simply due to the clock
Will he ever throw it away.  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 2:17 pm : link
Ever.
Jesus Christ  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 2:17 pm : link
If he could block him its an easy td
Ramsey was beat  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:18 pm : link
hes an ass!
Ramsey acting like he did something  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 2:18 pm : link
He was completely burned if Eli did not have to rush that throw
Tie it up out of the half.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:18 pm : link
.
It's still  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:18 pm : link
a game. Not sure how, but it is.
Damn  
mittenedman : 9/9/2018 2:18 pm : link
Eli had the TD there. Frustrating, gotta make plays
only down 7  
family progtitioner : 9/9/2018 2:18 pm : link
Jags lines are great
no td  
micky : 9/9/2018 2:18 pm : link
by o
wild snap  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
killed that play
Offensive Line Still  
Jeffrey : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
Pathetic. What happened to using Barkley in the passing game?
If possible,  
RottenApple : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
The offensive line is worse this year.
This is starting to seem like a three year rebuild  
Reb8thVA : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
They need to draft at least 2 OL high and get some kind of pass rush.
Alright.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
I'll take it.

Down 7 at half. Get ball to start second half.
hmmm  
giantfan2000 : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
our offense still can't score TDS

RE: I'm absolutely amazed that Beckham  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 14066425 eclipz928 said:
Quote:
is actually getting these calls. Used to the refs screwing him over.


The officials are trying to keep it calm between Ramsey and OBJ and they know Ramsey been talking shit!
Maybe get Barkley  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
in the passing game
Ramsey cant cover Beckham  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
But we cant give ELi a chance. Unreal. Shurmur must shake it up st the half. Put wheeler in at RT
OL is getting mandhandled  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
across the board.
We need to sign Cyrus Kouandjio  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
Like now. Like NOW NOW
If they even chipped the LB  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
that's a TD. Even still, they just missed. Eli looks pretty good in this offense. So, does OBJ.
well, hopefully Shurmur finds some halftime adjustments  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
and we take the ball and march down and score.

Overall, Eli looks fantastic -- and really moving smartly in the pocket when he isn't overwhelmed by rushers immediately.
If the ball was snapped right or Flowers blocked a tad better  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/9/2018 2:19 pm : link
That would have been a TD.
Two positives  
Marty866b : 9/9/2018 2:20 pm : link
Eli looks great and Beckham looks like Beckham. Everything else looks the same as last year to me.
Jags  
Sammo85 : 9/9/2018 2:20 pm : link
have best front 7 in the NFL. And its got some depth.

Flowers still stinks but lets not kill the OL for every single play.
O line not looking good.  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 2:20 pm : link
This Eli Manning guy looks very good.
We're down 7 at the half.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:20 pm : link
Yet reading some of these comments makes it seem we're down 27.

This first half was Ereck Flowers  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:20 pm : link
singlehandedly making things almost impossible for the Giants offense
Gettlemans priority  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 2:20 pm : link
Will be o-line and o-line
But seriously, has Omameh been our best O-Lineman today?  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:20 pm : link
.
RE: wild snap  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 2:20 pm : link
In comment 14066443 Steve in South Jersey said:
Quote:
killed that play
Not really. It was the LB running free from the right side that rushed the play by a half second.
RE: This is starting to seem like a three year rebuild  
micky : 9/9/2018 2:20 pm : link
In comment 14066446 Reb8thVA said:
Quote:
They need to draft at least 2 OL high and get some kind of pass rush.


Not in Giants eyes as they want to win one more for Eli

or..else would've....
The good news on offense is that Eli and OBJ look good.  
Ira : 9/9/2018 2:21 pm : link
The bad news is the offensive line isn't very good.
Rasheem Green..  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 2:21 pm : link
that should have been the pick instead of BJ Hill..
Eli running hot ....  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:21 pm : link
he was basically screaming at the o-line...
Can't even get a good snap off ...
Miles Jack in the backfield every friggen play ...
RE: Clock management ...  
yalebowl : 9/9/2018 2:21 pm : link
In comment 14066433 EricJ said:
Quote:
not good on this drive. A few plays ago the draw to Barkley is something I questioned simply due to the clock


It was 39 seconds at end of the play. And they didnt call time out until it was 25 seconds
OBJ  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 2:22 pm : link
Fucking amazing. Cant be covered by one of the best CBs in the NFL. The man is fucking for real.
They should tell Flowers to put his hands behind his back  
Dry Lightning : 9/9/2018 2:22 pm : link
run into the opposing player. He would actually improve. The fucking dude just stinks.
Eli looks good  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:22 pm : link
...
RE: We're down 7 at the half.  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14066460 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
Yet reading some of these comments makes it seem we're down 27.



was thinking SAME thing. our biggest concern outside of OL was ELi, he looks VERY good. the OL is bad and the defense is what they thought they were....next year add 2 OL hernandez in second year and it could be an iumproved unit....the giants are playing a top team in football and the best defense in the game. i am not to upset being down 7 at half.

we are fine guys, stop panicking, this team is ALREADY more watchable than last season lol
RE: Clock management ...  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14066433 EricJ said:
Quote:
not good on this drive. A few plays ago the draw to Barkley is something I questioned simply due to the clock


The draw to Barkley was an intentional attempt to take time off the clock. They didn't want to leave the Jags with any time if they scored.
Flowers was a sunk cost  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 2:22 pm : link
but so far, the ROI on Solder and Omameh isn't looking very good.
RE: But seriously, has Omameh been our best O-Lineman today?  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14066464 Anakim said:
Quote:
.


Yup. Solder giving up a lot of pressure
Roethlisberger has 3 INTs in the first half  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 2:23 pm : link
Vs Cleveland
Going out on a limb here.  
yalebowl : 9/9/2018 2:23 pm : link
Im going go out on a limb here. Flowers wont be on this team next year.
RE: Jags  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 2:23 pm : link
In comment 14066458 Sammo85 said:
Quote:
have best front 7 in the NFL. And its got some depth.

Flowers still stinks but lets not kill the OL for every single play.
I would agree if it was just a fe bonehead plays or missed assignments. But, every single play has been terrible. I agree that Jax has an excellent front 7. But, the OL has not provided any opposition whatsoever.
Erik Flowers should be shot  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/9/2018 2:23 pm : link
.
RE: RE: This is starting to seem like a three year rebuild  
lax counsel : 9/9/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14066466 micky said:
Quote:
In comment 14066446 Reb8thVA said:


Quote:


They need to draft at least 2 OL high and get some kind of pass rush.



Not in Giants eyes as they want to win one more for Eli

or..else would've....


Agreed, this is not a rebuild, this is a go for it.
RE: Flowers was a sunk cost  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14066477 jcn56 said:
Quote:
but so far, the ROI on Solder and Omameh isn't looking very good.


Solder is actually doing fine, Omameh looks average, Flowers looks brutal. Remember this is the best front 4 in the league
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 2:24 pm : link
Run blocking is completely non-existent.

There wasn't a single we blocked run play that half. The 10 yard run Barkley had was all effort on his part.
Whereas Flowers is a coach killer  
idiotsavant : 9/9/2018 2:24 pm : link
We've been talking about fixes for years now, not just via drafting, but also; less shotgun, more end runs, more passes from run blocking.

Whereas the A List plays may be, or be considered to be, from shotgun and pass block sets, you fail to prepare for playing with whom you have....

Why I wanted on outside zone runs for two years.
Wreck Flowers trending Nationally  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 2:24 pm : link
.
RE: This first half was Ereck Flowers  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 14066461 dpinzow said:
Quote:
singlehandedly making things almost impossible for the Giants offense


He got some help from the refs on that OPI call that took away a series from the Giants and flipped field position for the Jags. Flowers is awe full. So are the refs.
The names have changed but...  
Adirondack GMen : 9/9/2018 2:24 pm : link
The results are still the same.
Cant run
Cant pass protect
Cant make a needed stop.
The offense is being de-flowered
Anyone check with to see if Fox put on a game tape from last year instead of a live game...
Can Wheeler do any worse?  
PatersonPlank : 9/9/2018 2:24 pm : link
Seriously
the thing we wrere good at in the Parcell years  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 2:25 pm : link
was halftime adjustments. Hopefully, we will see that out of this coaching staff.
An Offensive Line  
PaulN : 9/9/2018 2:25 pm : link
That can't block, a defense that can't tackle, and a head coach that can not get 1 play for our new weapon Saquan Barkley, not once did he get him in space, all season and this is what we get, this is our new head coach? Unreal, more of the same old bullshit. They better do something fast or this crowd is going to turn ugly this season. The one player that is playing great is Eli Manning.
Scary disastrous  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 2:25 pm : link
First half

Very lucky to be down 7

Just total domination by Jax

Will second half be any different?

Defense already worn down

Offense must control the ball or game over

Lace it up for next week
Hopefully  
Photoguy : 9/9/2018 2:25 pm : link
this coaching staff is better at adjusting than the last one.
Typo ranted on  
idiotsavant : 9/9/2018 2:25 pm : link
Not wanted on.
RE: OL is getting mandhandled  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 14066452 nyjuggernaut2 said:
Quote:
across the board.


This. Campbell is dominating everyone, which is creating openings for their other excellent DL and LB, including Ngakoue. Eli has no time. Barkley has no lanes.

On offense, their OL is controlling our own excellent DL.

I'd use six OL, or at least keep a RB or TE in to block. On defense, use four DL.
Ok so we still have an oline problem  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 2:25 pm : link
But they made some good upgrades. Hopefully they can find a few more ASAP. Gettleman no doubt is focusing on this.

Time to fix the RIGHT side of the line.


Solder stunk  
XBRONX : 9/9/2018 2:25 pm : link
in pass pro the start of last year also.
The difference in  
Pete in MD : 9/9/2018 2:26 pm : link
this game is a terrible call. That guy fumbled the ball out of the endzone.
RE: Erik Flowers should be shot  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/9/2018 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14066482 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Well then you'd be shooting some random poor sap. You need to shoot Ereck Flowers.
RE: RE: Flowers was a sunk cost  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14066484 dpinzow said:
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but so far, the ROI on Solder and Omameh isn't looking very good.



Solder is actually doing fine, Omameh looks average, Flowers looks brutal. Remember this is the best front 4 in the league


people forget that...this DL is a HUGE test. so far we are failing. good news? we are down 7....
Remember when we would make adjustments at halftime?  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 2:26 pm : link
Is that sort of thing too much to hope for?

Jags D  
giantsFC : 9/9/2018 2:26 pm : link
Is ferocious.

Shockingly close game. If giants can find just one adjustment on offense,, they are a Odell Beckham huge play way from stealing this one.

But that adjustment is a big if.

Running game and blocking looks about on par for McAgoof era...but is is the jags D.
Jax  
Giantfootball025 : 9/9/2018 2:26 pm : link
should be up by way more. This game is still up for grabs and the Giants are lucky. This is typically a game the Giants would blow, dominating and keeping the score close. We need to help Flowers, and get Barkley involved in the passing game.
RE: If possible,  
Cariboo : 9/9/2018 2:27 pm : link
In comment 14066445 RottenApple said:
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The offensive line is worse this year.



Bring back Pugh!
Down 7 with correctable mistakes isn't a bad spot  
j_rud : 9/9/2018 2:27 pm : link
If they can scheme to help the OL and get a sustained drive to start the second half they're in great shape. This is a very winnable game against a superior opponent.
A three win team in position for a competitive second half  
BlueHurricane : 9/9/2018 2:27 pm : link
Against a team one win from the Super bowl last year that has two tremendous lines and guys on this site acting like they are shocked we arent having a better day.

What did you think this game would be? Mayve have some patience rather than mother eff them all day.
Need to get our  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 2:27 pm : link
TE's in the game also. Using Engram to block, waste of time.
I don't know how anyone can call Solder's performance fine  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 2:27 pm : link
the best you could do is write it off to the strong Jax DL.

And they can't run block at all - not one little bit.

They're still in this game though, bailout courtesy of Jenkins and OBJ.

Disheartening that after Fournette goes down the Jax O actually improves it's performance.
RE: We need to sign Cyrus Kouandjio  
Joey in VA : 9/9/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14066453 Anakim said:
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Like now. Like NOW NOW
You keep espousing us signing another colossal bust who was found nude and incoherent a year ago. Flowers sucks but he can keep his clothes on.
RE: Can Wheeler do any worse?  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14066491 PatersonPlank said:
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Seriously


No.
McAdoo was right  
Essex : 9/9/2018 2:28 pm : link
his issue was technique and that he cant bend, thats not going to change on the right side other than his defender might not be as good and Eli has probably an ability to see him get beat from the right side. I guess my issue is that I cannot imagine there is not a journeyman who we could have gotten to be a stopgap replacement. One thing to note, is that this is the best pass rush in foobtall so while nothing looks new with Flowers on right side, definitive judgments probably are a few weeks away at the very least
Wheeler  
Marty866b : 9/9/2018 2:29 pm : link
Is an awful right tackle. I don't think he would do any different then Flowers. Wheeler is much better on the left side.
RE: A three win team in position for a competitive second half  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14066509 BlueHurricane said:
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Against a team one win from the Super bowl last year that has two tremendous lines and guys on this site acting like they are shocked we arent having a better day.

What did you think this game would be? Mayve have some patience rather than mother eff them all day.



+100000

literally how i feel. im not worried at all. we are down 7, win or lose this team showed more this game than most of last year....eli looks good. obj looks good. defense is what it is, we know it lacks serious talent and the OL with a huge test is failing i agree, but only way to go is up....we are playing a tough team and we are in the game despite the BS call on engram and despite our OL blocking like cheerleaders
RE: An Offensive Line  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 14066493 PaulN said:
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That can't block, a defense that can't tackle, and a head coach that can not get 1 play for our new weapon Saquan Barkley, not once did he get him in space, all season and this is what we get, this is our new head coach? Unreal, more of the same old bullshit. They better do something fast or this crowd is going to turn ugly this season. The one player that is playing great is Eli Manning.


There are many Giants having a great game so far, Jenkins, OBJ, Shepherd to name a few.

The Barkley problem is not the coach, it's the oline (yet again for the 7th season in a row)!

At least this GM knows it unlike JR who refused to recognize how bad it was.
I pretty much figured  
Photoguy : 9/9/2018 2:29 pm : link
this a loss before the week began. Losing is not going to bother me as much as losing ugly like we are today. At least we're finding trouble spots and will have a chance to fix them down the line.
RE: Ok so we still have an oline problem  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 2:30 pm : link
In comment 14066498 nicky43 said:
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But they made some good upgrades. Hopefully they can find a few more ASAP. Gettleman no doubt is focusing on this.

Time to fix the RIGHT side of the line.


Exactly, my God, we are coming off a 3-13 year, playing one of the best teams in the NFL known for their O & D lines and it's a 7 point game at halftime and you would think we are losing by 40 points.

Eli is looking better, OBJ is back and looking good, this is going to take time but most on here want to throw in the towel
Lets tie this up!!  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:30 pm : link
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RE: RE: We need to sign Cyrus Kouandjio  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:30 pm : link
In comment 14066512 Joey in VA said:
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Like now. Like NOW NOW

You keep espousing us signing another colossal bust who was found nude and incoherent a year ago. Flowers sucks but he can keep his clothes on.


From Sayre Bedinger: "If a team needs an offensive tackle, Cyrus Kouandjio has put out some good tape. He should get picked up by someone."

CBS Denver: CYRUS KOUANDJIO, LT

But Cyrus Kouandjio had two holding penalties against the Redskins, you might be saying right now. True, but the former Bills second-rounder has been stout as it comes as the second-team left tackle.

Hes helped to blast open running lanes, and has kept Chad Kellys jersey clean. The Broncos need a swing tackle who can step in and be trusted to keep the O-line functioning as a unit.

Kouandjio is that man. The team likely hoped it would be Billy Turner, but Kouandjio has far out-played him."

Jon Heath: "One of the other spots will likely go to Cyrus Kouandjio, who has looked like the teams best backup offensive tackle this preseason."


Chad Jensen: "CYRUS KOUANDJIO, OT
I like Cyrus Kouandjio. He's played well all summer and his hands down the third-best offensive tackle on the roster.

The question with Kouandjio is whether or not he can play right tackle. The Broncos might not have a choice, because he clearly out-played Billy Turner and Elijah Wilkinson. If it's about keeping the best guys, Kouandjio is among them."
1st half of the season, early returns  
ChaChing : 9/9/2018 2:30 pm : link
Jags winning both lines. Solid playcall. Yeldon comes in they use his strength in the RZ with an easy pitch and catch TD. Game could have been worse with fewer drops and penalties but I'll take it

Playcall early was tough esp in the RZ tho losing every OL battle doesn't help. If Flowers is a liability how is there not more help, tho all are getting beat atm. Also 0 targets to SB? Seems a mistake given the pressure

Eli, OBJ, Shep look pretty good. Seems like EE is close. Hopefully they all settle in - esp the lines & the D. A lot of new faces & moving parts
RE: RE: Ok so we still have an oline problem  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 2:31 pm : link
In comment 14066520 montanagiant said:
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But they made some good upgrades. Hopefully they can find a few more ASAP. Gettleman no doubt is focusing on this.

Time to fix the RIGHT side of the line.




Exactly, my God, we are coming off a 3-13 year, playing one of the best teams in the NFL known for their O & D lines and it's a 7 point game at halftime and you would think we are losing by 40 points.

Eli is looking better, OBJ is back and looking good, this is going to take time but most on here want to throw in the towel



agreed. i am feeling fine. do i wanna win ya of course, but 3 wins last year and we are playing a team that lost by 4 in AFC ship...they are a VERY good team especially on defense...we are in it
If it makes  
Sammo85 : 9/9/2018 2:31 pm : link
Anyone feel better, Norwell has been fairly subpar so far. Hes been beaten several times one on one for QB pressures and also committed a costly penalty in the red zone.

OL talent depth is as bad as Ive ever seen in the NFL and OL play is subpar league wide with the exception of maybe a handful of teams.
Adjustment one  
PaulN : 9/9/2018 2:31 pm : link
It is called the fucking screen pass, look what they did with Fournet, not one fucking play like that, not one attempt, just drop backs without giving Flowers any help. Did Shurmer watch any game tape? This is what we get after all season of preparation for this game, this is the plan.
RE: RE: We're down 7 at the half.  
Eman11 : 9/9/2018 2:31 pm : link
In comment 14066475 BleedBlue said:
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Yet reading some of these comments makes it seem we're down 27.





was thinking SAME thing. our biggest concern outside of OL was ELi, he looks VERY good. the OL is bad and the defense is what they thought they were....next year add 2 OL hernandez in second year and it could be an iumproved unit....the giants are playing a top team in football and the best defense in the game. i am not to upset being down 7 at half.

we are fine guys, stop panicking, this team is ALREADY more watchable than last season lol


Well said and I'm right there with you for the most part. I was hoping for more from the D but it's only one half.

Plenty of time for adjustments and improvement. I have confidence in Shurmur to adjust where needed. Never saw much from he who will not be named as far as that goes coming out for the 2nd half.
Relax  
Kanavis : 9/9/2018 2:32 pm : link
This team was in the AFC championship game. They are dominant on both lines. Campbell is almost impossible to block and they have 6 pro bowlers on D. We were 3-13. And yet, we are down by a touchdown, their main back has an injury and they can't seem to stop Beckham.

So, while it may look ugly, new game plans on offense and defense always take weeks to settle in. Remember Spags first few defensive games? Doesn't look like we will emerge this week but it isn't hopeless and it is a long season.

Help on Campbell, get Barkley the ball on screens and in space, and find a way to tighten up the D. Our coaches could never adjust the past few years. This where we see whether Shurmer and Co are different.
RE: RE: We need to sign Cyrus Kouandjio  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/9/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14066512 Joey in VA said:
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Like now. Like NOW NOW

You keep espousing us signing another colossal bust who was found nude and incoherent a year ago. Flowers sucks but he can keep his clothes on.


Cyrus Kouandijo has played 2 games since 2016. The point at which you lose reasonable thought is suggesting hes the answer to anything.
Were down 7  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:32 pm : link
To a formidable team but were still seeing the same issues
Need a FS desperately ..
Middle of the field still wide open .
Jags have controlled the trenches both sides of the ball.
Collins is overrated at this point he hasn't filled in the run game and exploited in the pass game .
Have to get Barkley involved and also the TE's .
It's not just Flowers everyone is getting beat .
RE: A three win team in position for a competitive second half  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14066509 BlueHurricane said:
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Against a team one win from the Super bowl last year that has two tremendous lines and guys on this site acting like they are shocked we arent having a better day.

What did you think this game would be? Mayve have some patience rather than mother eff them all day.


Also agree. We need to do a much better job getting yards on first down, perhaps with some short dump offs and screens. But we are still very much in this game.
I'm going to edit my roster in Madden  
santacruzom : 9/9/2018 2:32 pm : link
So that Flowers has an overall rating of 6.
RE: If it makes  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14066526 Sammo85 said:
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Anyone feel better, Norwell has been fairly subpar so far. Hes been beaten several times one on one for QB pressures and also committed a costly penalty in the red zone.

OL talent depth is as bad as Ive ever seen in the NFL and OL play is subpar league wide with the exception of maybe a handful of teams.


Question is, why is OL play bad? Is it the athleticism of the defenders? Spread offenses is college? I just dont know.
RE: RE: Erik Flowers should be shot  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/9/2018 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14066501 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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Well then you'd be shooting some random poor sap. You need to shoot Ereck Flowers.


Who gives a shit how he does his name.... He sux
Gotta move the chains  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 2:33 pm : link
Give D a blow

Need to take control of tempi and rhythm of game

OR ELSE
Can our new coaches  
Rick in Dallas : 9/9/2018 2:34 pm : link
Make halftime adjustments??
RE: Adjustment one  
santacruzom : 9/9/2018 2:34 pm : link
In comment 14066528 PaulN said:
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It is called the fucking screen pass, look what they did with Fournet, not one fucking play like that, not one attempt, just drop backs without giving Flowers any help. Did Shurmer watch any game tape? This is what we get after all season of preparation for this game, this is the plan.


Eli would likely get mauled on a screen, and even if he completes it I imagine the gain would be -3 yards.
Well, that's less than ideal  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:34 pm : link
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15 minutes...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:34 pm : link
to call that first play and we have to burn a TO
Jax is a great pass defense  
Essex : 9/9/2018 2:34 pm : link
Jax is a great pass rushing team
Last year though Jacksonville was not really that good versus run. I think looking at last years stats are somewhat dubious for this season, but it wasnt that great and our ground game has been pitiful
The hell? Communication system doesn't work  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:35 pm : link
and they have to call a timeout
Flowers will wash down the drain in the shower after the game  
fivehead : 9/9/2018 2:35 pm : link
except for maybe some pieces of corn.
JFC  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:35 pm : link
...
Shouldnt they get their TO back?  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:35 pm : link
Comms issue
Doesnt matter who is calling plays.  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 2:35 pm : link
Unreal.
Shatley. Great last name.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:35 pm : link
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Barkley trying to follow blocks  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:36 pm : link
Blocking sucks
There is our first adjustment boys,,  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:36 pm : link
and it makes sense. Running via toss
When Shurmur calls a different play that works  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:36 pm : link
how about not coming right back with it against this smart defense?

Happy the penalty was called.
Engram needs to catch that  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:36 pm : link
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Pet peeve.  
CT Charlie : 9/9/2018 2:37 pm : link
With a good quarterback and receivers, losing a timeout is more costly than losing 5 yards to create a 1st and 15.
These Jags are very grabby  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:37 pm : link
Not getting away with it
Fuck off Ronde  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 2:37 pm : link
You were all about that BS PI call on Engram but an obvious hold on him should not be called
Damn.  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:38 pm : link
That was dangerous!
Jesus  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:38 pm : link
how about ripping the guy's head off.

Toss that guy
Engram having an extremely shitty game!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:38 pm : link
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Is there such thing as a 45-yard  
eclipz928 : 9/9/2018 2:38 pm : link
facemask penalty?
Barkley pick isnt going to look good because Jim Brown couldnt...  
Crispino : 9/9/2018 2:39 pm : link
get yards behind this line. It looks like a wasted pick if nobody can block. Hes hit as soon as he gets the handoff.
OL completely overmatched.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:39 pm : link
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very dirty play  
family progtitioner : 9/9/2018 2:39 pm : link
fines will be owed this week
I really  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:39 pm : link
like Gallman.
Gallman  
CT Charlie : 9/9/2018 2:39 pm : link
is good.
Very nasty facemask but it may have saved them  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 2:39 pm : link
from giving up a TD. That guy should be expelled from the game for that!
That facemask  
SomeFan : 9/9/2018 2:39 pm : link
Bordered on a disqualification ay
What a cheap dirty  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:39 pm : link
facemask WTF
Saquon pushed the pile just enough for the first there  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:40 pm : link
...
That's nice to see  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:40 pm : link
Barkley needed that yard and got it to convert.
Eli just missed Odell  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:41 pm : link
Just overthrown. Odell was there
wow  
CMicks3110 : 9/9/2018 2:41 pm : link
f****ck
Crap!  
Jersey Heel : 9/9/2018 2:41 pm : link
He had him wide open!
Fuccccckkkk!  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:41 pm : link
We had it.
Damn Eli!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:41 pm : link
Damn it!
Oh, Eli.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:41 pm : link
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We just cannot miss those...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:41 pm : link
that right there decides games
Dammit  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 2:41 pm : link
Should have called illegal contact on that pass
damn  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:41 pm : link
Eli just long. PRobably because Beckham got held 40 yards down the field.

OBJis open all the time tho. Hopefully a couple connect.
so close  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:41 pm : link
..
Holding fuck
I fucking hate that hand off.....  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:42 pm : link
Shot gun ho sucks
Barkley shows some special  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:42 pm : link
stuff. But he's going to be running for his damn life. He barely gets the ball before first contact.
_  
Banks : 9/9/2018 2:42 pm : link
amazing he turned that around, but negated by a penalty
RE: We just cannot miss those...  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:42 pm : link
In comment 14066578 EricJ said:
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that right there decides games


It was big. No doubt.
RE: damn  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:42 pm : link
In comment 14066580 jpkmets said:
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Eli just long. PRobably because Beckham got held 40 yards down the field.


Really? OBJ had like three steps on the guy. I hardly think he got held
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 2:42 pm : link
Drafting Barkley and lining him up behind this running blocking is a shame.
Flowers,,,,  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:43 pm : link
pitiful
RE: RE: damn  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14066586 EricJ said:
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Eli just long. PRobably because Beckham got held 40 yards down the field.




Really? OBJ had like three steps on the guy. I hardly think he got held


Absolutely got held at the point of the second move - -by which time the ball was in the air.
RE: RE: damn  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 2:43 pm : link
In comment 14066586 EricJ said:
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Eli just long. PRobably because Beckham got held 40 yards down the field.




Really? OBJ had like three steps on the guy. I hardly think he got held

What? It completely disrupted this route
bullshit holding call  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 2:43 pm : link
i want to see them call this shit on jax
Engram just short of the first  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:43 pm : link
I think they take the FG instead of going for it
Wtf Myles Jack fast as shit  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 2:44 pm : link
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Hanging in there with field goals  
NYerInMA : 9/9/2018 2:44 pm : link
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Rosas FG from 44 is perfect after a high snap  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:44 pm : link
Giants trail 13-9
Roasas has  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:44 pm : link
looked really solid.
we really  
CMicks3110 : 9/9/2018 2:44 pm : link
miss Vernon on defense
RE: RE: RE: damn  
halfback20 : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14066590 montanagiant said:
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In comment 14066580 jpkmets said:


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Eli just long. PRobably because Beckham got held 40 yards down the field.




Really? OBJ had like three steps on the guy. I hardly think he got held


What? It completely disrupted this route


Agreed
Engram  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
is a nightmare for Lb's. got to get him the damn ball more
RE: bullshit holding call  
lax counsel : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14066591 Thunderstruck27 said:
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i want to see them call this shit on jax


Agreed, that was a weak call. Eli need to be better throwing the ball downfield as well, same deep accuracy issues that plagued him last year. Hopefully its just the rain.
Last two drives could have been ODB TDs.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
Church hold and overthrow (with slight hold by DB slowing ODB up - still more of an overthrow).
They should have sent a message to Flowers  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
and benched him.
RE: RE: RE: damn  
map7711 : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14066589 jpkmets said:
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In comment 14066580 jpkmets said:


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Eli just long. PRobably because Beckham got held 40 yards down the field.




Really? OBJ had like three steps on the guy. I hardly think he got held



Absolutely got held at the point of the second move - -by which time the ball was in the air.


Clearly was bumped at the end of the play to hold him up. Maybe EricJ didn't see the replay?
RE: Wtf Myles Jack fast as shit  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14066593 Rflairr said:
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Pretty much any other LB in the league and Engram would have made it.
should've been 7 instead of 3  
micky : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
if Eli doesn't over thow OBJ

ashame
Damn it EE.....  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
Their freaking defense is fast and tackles.....extremely grabby, especially on back end. I think they couldve been called on other plays for PI or holding.
RE: Hanging in there with field goals  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
In comment 14066594 NYerInMA said:
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We need to make a couple of those plays to punch it into the end zone. OBJ was open for two TDs so far this game.

So far, I am happy that we are hanging with this team. Just hate to lose this opportunity we have right now.
6 minutes off the clock  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
Very good

Let their D suck wind for a while
That face mask...  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
was about a cheap foul I have seen ...
Can the defense get a turnover .
can't sustain a drive no how ...
That miss by Eli to OBJ hurts  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
Tough to score on this Jax D, can't miss opportunities like that
Would love a three and out here.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
...
Jack is the guy we passed on  
SHO'NUFF : 9/9/2018 2:45 pm : link
for who...? but then again, so did 31 other teams
I'll get burned for this..but  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 2:46 pm : link
any other good TE woulda put his shoulder down and beat a LB 1 on 1 for a couple of yards. Engram lost a race to the sideline...
RE: Engram  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14066599 LeftHook said:
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is a nightmare for Lb's. got to get him the damn ball more


Cant believe Jack came out of no where to keep him from getting that first down
Need a quick stop here  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 2:46 pm : link
establish something on D.
RE: Engram just short of the first  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14066592 dpinzow said:
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I think they take the FG instead of going for it


Pederson would have gone for it. Just saying.
RE: RE: RE: damn  
Eman11 : 9/9/2018 2:46 pm : link
In comment 14066589 jpkmets said:
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In comment 14066580 jpkmets said:


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Eli just long. PRobably because Beckham got held 40 yards down the field.




Really? OBJ had like three steps on the guy. I hardly think he got held



Absolutely got held at the point of the second move - -by which time the ball was in the air.


Agreed. At worst it was illegal contact
Lets see what this D is made of now. Can we get them off the field  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:47 pm : link
Now
Rosas with  
Pete in MD : 9/9/2018 2:47 pm : link
3 beautiful kicks.
Rosas  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 2:47 pm : link
has been excellent. The key play was Eli overthrowing OBJ.

The Jags defense is awesome. Stout and fast at the LOS, and in coverage. They are forcing us into many third and long situations. We needed penalties to even get into FG range on that last drive.
RE: should've been 7 instead of 3  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14066605 micky said:
Quote:
if Eli doesn't over thow OBJ

ashame


That throw was right where it should have been-- Beckham got held/illegal contact at the end of his route -- slowed him up and was not called.

Not an overthrow in my book at all.
It is time  
bigblue18 : 9/9/2018 2:47 pm : link
for collins to make a play
RE: RE: Engram  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 2:48 pm : link
In comment 14066614 Rflairr said:
Quote:
In comment 14066599 LeftHook said:
Great play by Jack, for sure

Quote:


is a nightmare for Lb's. got to get him the damn ball more



Cant believe Jack came out of no where to keep him from getting that first down
ok, that's the way to start  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:48 pm : link
no or limited 1st down games is the only route to success!
Watch Bortles  
XBRONX : 9/9/2018 2:48 pm : link
give it up.
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 2:48 pm : link
Without Fournette the Jags have a very unscary offense.

Can't get beat by the crew on the field here.
Jacksonville's defense is really good.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/9/2018 2:48 pm : link
The Giants' line is still a problem. All things considered, things could be a lot worse. If the Giants' defense adjusts in the second half (with Fournette out) this is a winnable game.
Have to do better there on that run.....  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:48 pm : link
Guys on the edge getting beaten
Nice job, Michael Thomas  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:49 pm : link
Nice blitz there
nice nice NICE!  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:49 pm : link
Better not be a 1st down cause of some unsportsmanlike.

Just an't do that.
Cam Robinson is a punk  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:49 pm : link
.
There's some pressure  
Geomon : 9/9/2018 2:49 pm : link
Of course we fuck it up with penalties
Nice blitz there  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:49 pm : link
.
JFC. Better not give ball to Jax.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:50 pm : link
.
Re Myles Jack speed  
idiotsavant : 9/9/2018 2:50 pm : link
Possibly we have our Zo Carter for that.
Nice pressure  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:50 pm : link
there
3 and out  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 2:50 pm : link
Fantastic
cmon refs  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:50 pm : link
make a fucking call or don't.


Actually, just take your time to make that call.
Yes!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:50 pm : link
.
Bush league  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/9/2018 2:50 pm : link
Coughlin team!
We NEED a  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:50 pm : link
TD here!!!
RE: JFC. Better not give ball to Jax.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14066635 Boy Cord said:
Quote:
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What a dick move by 74.
and a hold not called  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 2:51 pm : link
wtf
Eli Apple bothers someone who isn't on his team  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:51 pm : link
Nice job
Good job by Apple  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:51 pm : link
keeping his cool.

Good field position.

Capitalize!
I don't think  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 2:51 pm : link
Ronde knows what a fumble is
Bad punt there by the JAX punter  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:51 pm : link
...
RE: Eli Apple bothers someone who isn't on his team  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14066645 Anakim said:
Quote:
Nice job

Ha! That's great.
Take advantage now with this field position  
micky : 9/9/2018 2:52 pm : link
.
1st punt  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/9/2018 2:52 pm : link
by the Jaguars
Move the chains  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 2:52 pm : link
Get Jax D breathing through their mouths
RE: Re Myles Jack speed  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:52 pm : link
In comment 14066636 idiotsavant said:
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Possibly we have our Zo Carter for that.


Carter is not that fast.....he may become a very solid LBer for us, but theres not many LBers that can run like Jack
Thomas makes the play  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 2:52 pm : link
Rhonde Barber doesnt mention his name
Momentum shifting a bit here  
illmatic : 9/9/2018 2:52 pm : link
Let's go offense.
Giants football  
idiotsavant : 9/9/2018 2:52 pm : link
Don't even watch the O. D wins it for you when you don't expect it.
Carter created good pressure.  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 2:53 pm : link
He looks like a good pickup.
Nice  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 2:53 pm : link
stop by the D. Let's use this great field position to get a TD this time.
RE: Thomas makes the play  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14066654 jeff57 said:
Quote:
Rhonde Barber doesnt mention his name


This Jag suck fest is horrendous
RE: Jack is the guy we passed on  
Ira : 9/9/2018 2:53 pm : link
In comment 14066612 SHO'NUFF said:
Quote:
for who...? but then again, so did 31 other teams


He got picked before our pick in the 2nd round. He fell to the 2nd because of injury. We got Shepard.
Apple nice move  
MotownGIANTS : 9/9/2018 2:54 pm : link
to NOT retaliate. GREAT field position!


Also seems to be holding his own so far as well.
Barkley having a tough go today  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:55 pm : link
.
It's been said before  
Jay in Toronto : 9/9/2018 2:55 pm : link
Ronde is Captain Obvious or wrong.




Go for it  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:55 pm : link
Go for it
OBJ was wide open..  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:55 pm : link
beyond the sticks...
Eli went to the wrong guy
Eli had Barkley in the right flat  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:55 pm : link
Easy First
cmon . make it happen  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:55 pm : link
Giants. Convert
scrap that  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:56 pm : link
quick toss to Barkley.....
Extend the ball!!!!!!!  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:56 pm : link
Dammit.
He was short  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:56 pm : link
That sucks
I'll say it again...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 2:56 pm : link
Engram is a WR..
Wow such a smart move by the defender there...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 2:56 pm : link
when the line judge was running in to spot the ball, he hits him pushing him back.
Idiotic  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:56 pm : link
Going for it there.
Crap!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:56 pm : link
Crap!
fuick  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 2:56 pm : link
four and out
short  
micky : 9/9/2018 2:56 pm : link
again when opp they fail
Didnt like that call  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 2:56 pm : link
.
Did Wreck Flowers block anyone there?  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:57 pm : link
.
RE: Idiotic  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14066674 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
Going for it there.


I would have pitched it to Barkley and let him pick his spot.
That the difference between  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 2:57 pm : link
a winning and losing team.
Engram gets open  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 2:57 pm : link
but he goes down easy. Soft this game
Bummer  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 2:57 pm : link
...
That was a bad play by Barkley  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 2:57 pm : link
.
this offense stinks..  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 2:57 pm : link
wow.
RE: I'll say it again...  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14066672 Thunderstruck27 said:
Quote:
Engram is a WR..


Engram pauses when he caught it.
the way barkley was hyped he should've got that  
micky : 9/9/2018 2:57 pm : link
lol
RE: Didnt like that call  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 2:57 pm : link
In comment 14066678 jeff57 said:
Quote:
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I think they were smart to go for it but I didn't like the play they went with.

Score?  
short lease : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
I am at work.....thanks.
RE: RE: Idiotic  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066680 Simms11 said:
Quote:
In comment 14066674 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


Quote:


Going for it there.



I would have pitched it to Barkley and let him pick his spot.


agreed
RE: I'll say it again...  
TommyWiseau : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066672 Thunderstruck27 said:
Quote:
Engram is a WR..


Yeah when he knocked 55 on his ass he sure looked like a WR... Joke
RE: Didnt like that call  
mrvax : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066678 jeff57 said:
Quote:
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Tough to choose between punt or 1 yard run.
No space  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
No hole

No first down

As simple as that

Need a better o line
RE: That was a bad play by Barkley  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066684 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
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Bad play? What the fuck could he have done? The line completely collapsed on him
RE: Wow such a smart move by the defender there...  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066673 EricJ said:
Quote:
when the line judge was running in to spot the ball, he hits him pushing him back.


He was short regardless. Saquon's elbow was down and the ball did not reach the 36 yard line
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
I abhore running the ball out of the shotgun on short situations.
RE: Score?  
NYerInMA : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066689 short lease said:
Quote:
I am at work.....thanks.


13-9 Jags, 6min left in the 3rd.
I mean...  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
All that money on the LT, a draft pick there at LG and the #2 overall pick but cant get a yard at home? Fuck that.
RE: Score?  
yankeeslover : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066689 short lease said:
Quote:
I am at work.....thanks.


13-9 Jags
Hate  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
the play call. Much too obvious to hand it to Barkley. Should have used him in a play action fake and thrown a short pass. That was a big wasted opportunity given the field position. We at least needed a FG.
RE: RE: That was a bad play by Barkley  
kelsto811 : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066694 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 14066684 bigbluescot said:


Quote:


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Bad play? What the fuck could he have done? The line completely collapsed on him


How about reaching the ball out considering its 4th down and he needs 2 yards?
RE: RE: That was a bad play by Barkley  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066694 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 14066684 bigbluescot said:


Quote:


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Bad play? What the fuck could he have done? The line completely collapsed on him


Extend the ball. He jumped with no awareness of the line to gain.
RE: the way barkley was hyped he should've got that  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066687 micky said:
Quote:
lol


Our o-line should diminish a lot of the hype over Barkley.
Oline getting beat run blocking.....  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
We knew itd be tough sledding against this D.
RE: Idiotic  
Dave in PA : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066674 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
Quote:
Going for it there.
Meh it wasnt a bad decision. Kind of in no mans land there. Unless you really trust your punter to trap the ball inside the 10 then you should go for it.
RE: Score?  
mrvax : 9/9/2018 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14066689 short lease said:
Quote:
I am at work.....thanks.


13-9 Jax.
Looks like we put the cart in front of the horse with  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 2:59 pm : link
This oline.
Gotta hope the defense steps up  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 2:59 pm : link
Here.
Rather  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 2:59 pm : link
have seen just a short pass there ...
that was a long 1 yard to dive for
RE: Score?  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 2:59 pm : link
In comment 14066689 short lease said:
Quote:
I am at work.....thanks.


13-9 Jags
Eli - nice stats  
LG in NYC : 9/9/2018 2:59 pm : link
but way too many balls off line... throwing high, behind or long. Even the guys catching the ball can't maintain forward momentum.

that said, the real story today is that the OLine still sux balls.
Play calling Has to Adjust  
Jeffrey : 9/9/2018 2:59 pm : link
To what this team can and cannot do. Power run game should be tossed out.
Why can't we do those play action fakes?  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 2:59 pm : link
.
Shotgun Draw  
ConMan22 : 9/9/2018 2:59 pm : link
strikes Again
RE: Eli - nice stats  
DC Gmen Fan : 9/9/2018 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14066711 LG in NYC said:
Quote:
but way too many balls off line... throwing high, behind or long. Even the guys catching the ball can't maintain forward momentum.

that said, the real story today is that the OLine still sux balls.


Agreed
Hello BBI  
HBart : 9/9/2018 3:00 pm : link
My first exposure to the 2018 Ny Giants down in Puerto Vallarta.

Didn't pay so much attention to the draft.

So we spent the #2 pick on Ron Dayne?
We had ball  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:00 pm : link
on 50 and that was best we could do. Ugh.
That's a momentum killer, I'd have punted  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 3:00 pm : link
and tried to pin them deep. They're a very conservative offense.
RE: RE: Score?  
short lease : 9/9/2018 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14066710 RDJR said:
Quote:
In comment 14066689 short lease said:


Quote:


I am at work.....thanks.



13-9 Jags



Thanks RDJR! Closer than I thought it would be.
Same shitty playcalling..  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 3:00 pm : link
I get the Oline is not helping but the calls are off.
terrible defense  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 3:00 pm : link
.... Snacks down ..
going downhill fast here ..
RE: Hello BBI  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14066716 HBart said:
Quote:
My first exposure to the 2018 Ny Giants down in Puerto Vallarta.

Didn't pay so much attention to the draft.

So we spent the #2 pick on Ron Dayne?


Go back on vacation
Great. Snacks down  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 3:01 pm : link
.
same play beating us all game...  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:01 pm : link
players playing dumb.
This would be really bad  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:01 pm : link
Snacks down but jogging off on his own
wow... glad he is running off  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:01 pm : link
.
If Snacks goes  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:01 pm : link
down we're toast.
There  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 3:01 pm : link
Goes the season. If snacks goes down
missed in all the playcalling...  
TexasGmenFan : 9/9/2018 3:01 pm : link
Eli missed again on the quick pass to Barkley. Has now missed on several throws and has throw behind the receiver on many others that did end up as receptions.

Sigh.
This head coach  
PaulN : 9/9/2018 3:01 pm : link
May be the stinker of the year, what a horrendous game plan and nothing to get the ball out of his hands quickly, pathetic.
*thrown  
TexasGmenFan : 9/9/2018 3:02 pm : link
.
It's amazing how Giants  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 3:02 pm : link
can't eveer take advantage of good field position?! Shurmur really??! smh..
RE: missed in all the playcalling...  
micky : 9/9/2018 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14066730 TexasGmenFan said:
Quote:
Eli missed again on the quick pass to Barkley. Has now missed on several throws and has throw behind the receiver on many others that did end up as receptions.

Sigh.



yup
RE: This head coach  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14066731 PaulN said:
Quote:
May be the stinker of the year, what a horrendous game plan and nothing to get the ball out of his hands quickly, pathetic.

At least it's something the team is used to.
RE: This head coach  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14066731 PaulN said:
Quote:
May be the stinker of the year, what a horrendous game plan and nothing to get the ball out of his hands quickly, pathetic.

What an idiotic post
He better be ok.  
BlueHurricane : 9/9/2018 3:02 pm : link
Would be the biggest loss to this team.
our LB with his biggest hit of the game  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:02 pm : link
on Snacks.
3rd and 3. Will the Jags  
CT Charlie : 9/9/2018 3:02 pm : link
roll out right and toss it to the tight end?
oh fuck  
SHO'NUFF : 9/9/2018 3:02 pm : link
Snacks hurt
Give the D  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:03 pm : link
credit...we're hanging in there.
RE: This head coach  
family progtitioner : 9/9/2018 3:03 pm : link
In comment 14066731 PaulN said:
Quote:
May be the stinker of the year, what a horrendous game plan and nothing to get the ball out of his hands quickly, pathetic.


Just stop
finally a stop  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 3:03 pm : link
...
Eli Apple - not being exploited  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 3:03 pm : link
good news
Blake Bortles is terrible  
Dave in PA : 9/9/2018 3:03 pm : link
Must suck for Jags fans having that thought in the back of their mind all season. They will never win a championship with him
RE: He better be ok.  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14066737 BlueHurricane said:
Quote:
Would be the biggest loss to this team.


That's not hyperbole at all
RE: Give the D  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:04 pm : link
In comment 14066741 rebel yell said:
Quote:
credit...we're hanging in there.


Indeed. Much better this half.
For a team thats probably a year away  
eli4life : 9/9/2018 3:04 pm : link
They are hanging in there with a final four team with a great defense
Loving The Betch  
idiotsavant : 9/9/2018 3:05 pm : link
This D is fun to watch so far.
Here's Jonathan Stewart  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:05 pm : link
.
We  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 3:05 pm : link
lost 45 yards of field position between this and the last possession. Good stop by the D.
Surprised Coughlin didn't pick up  
CT Charlie : 9/9/2018 3:05 pm : link
Davis Webb for the Jags. He woulda been an upgrade.
RE: missed in all the playcalling...  
map7711 : 9/9/2018 3:05 pm : link
In comment 14066730 TexasGmenFan said:
Quote:
Eli missed again on the quick pass to Barkley. Has now missed on several throws and has throw behind the receiver on many others that did end up as receptions.

Sigh.


Can't tell if serious? He's 15 for 19 against maybe the best D in football with this O line? What the hell?
Betch with good calls so far  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 3:06 pm : link
Get the ball to OBJ.
Apple has been good  
Dave on the UWS : 9/9/2018 3:06 pm : link
today. Same body language as he had in camp. Competing every play.
Big play to Beckham coming up here  
KWALL2 : 9/9/2018 3:06 pm : link
Theyve been close.
Stewart's best run as a Giant  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:06 pm : link
Obviously including preseason
Eli still has an arm...  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:07 pm : link
.
RE: RE: missed in all the playcalling...  
TexasGmenFan : 9/9/2018 3:07 pm : link
In comment 14066754 map7711 said:
Quote:
In comment 14066730 TexasGmenFan said:


Quote:


Eli missed again on the quick pass to Barkley. Has now missed on several throws and has throw behind the receiver on many others that did end up as receptions.

Sigh.



Can't tell if serious? He's 15 for 19 against maybe the best D in football with this O line? What the hell?


Numbers are deceiving. Obviously glad he's taking what he gets, but its 15 completions for 129...He's missed Odell for TDs twice and it was certainly a miss on the throw to Barkley.

I also don't think it's wrong to say some of the receptions are on throws behind. I didn't say he's having a horrible game, just that he missed a few throws. Is that wrong?
RE: Eli still has an arm...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:08 pm : link
In comment 14066759 Simms11 said:
Quote:
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It has always been strong. Just needed it to be a bit more accurate.

Eli  
Jeffrey : 9/9/2018 3:08 pm : link
Has to be accurate if there is any hope for this offense.
That was PI  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 3:08 pm : link
.
Surprising that the Defense  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 3:08 pm : link
is out playing the Offense? This should not be happening with all the weapons the Giants have on offense! Play-calling has to get better?! smh
Engram needs to step up his game  
Essex : 9/9/2018 3:08 pm : link
...
"Hasn't been much Beckham today" Tiki.  
CT Charlie : 9/9/2018 3:08 pm : link
What about the 70 yards of PI penalties which he drew.
Halapio got plowed over  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:09 pm : link
And Omameh looked foolish there
Gotta be able to run it  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:09 pm : link
a little bit.
Agree with the announcer there..  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:09 pm : link
Odell was open a second after the snap and Eli was just looking at him.
Would you just look at all these Giants weapons!  
fivehead : 9/9/2018 3:09 pm : link
Weeeee!
Running too many slants  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 3:09 pm : link
.
Awesome  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:09 pm : link
kick.
How great is it seeing  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 3:09 pm : link
Good coverage on Kicks
RE:  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14066766 CT Charlie said:
Quote:
What about the 70 yards of PI penalties which he drew.


Fumble Tiki!
Here comes Eli  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
the pussy.
Halapio pushed right back and to the ground  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
on that rush......Eli needed another second to get the ball out to OBJ....
Defense going to have to get a turnover  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
For us
RE: Engram needs to step up his game  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14066765 Essex said:
Quote:
...

Agree. Very inconsistent.
i have never said this once in all the years.....  
WeekendLife56 : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
Eli is done..bad oline withstanding.
Time for the defense to score  
yalebowl : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
A touchdown
We need an  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
INT here. It's time!
RE: Surprising that the Defense  
oldutican : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14066764 prdave73 said:
Quote:
is out playing the Offense? This should not be happening with all the weapons the Giants have on offense! Play-calling has to get better?! smh


You can call any damn play you want, but if you cant block it wont work.
Giants 3.7 ypp.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
Yuck.
RE: i have never said this once in all the years.....  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 14066779 WeekendLife56 said:
Quote:
Eli is done..bad oline withstanding.


Not really sure how you can come to that conclusion based on today, but okay...
We're  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
just being completely stifled on offense.
BTW...  
Tesla : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
Eli was not hit on that last missed throw to Beckham. There was pressure but he wasn't actually touched....just crumpled to the ground on he felt pressure.
Oh cmon  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
.
Fooled again  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
FOOLED FUCKING AGAIN


Imagine when we go against an athletic QB...
Eli is the doing fine,  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
it's the Oline and play calling?!
That's  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
a fucking back breaker.
That is absolutely embarrassing...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
.
Pathetic  
Joey in VA : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
Pathetic defense. Someone watched the New England game
Brutal  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
.

Horrid
Wtf!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
Hold not called at all!
RE: BTW...  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14066786 Tesla said:
Quote:
Eli was not hit on that last missed throw to Beckham. There was pressure but he wasn't actually touched....just crumpled to the ground on he felt pressure.

He got hit on his lower legs as he was throwing the ball
ASJ held Jackrabbit there....  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
.
Fucking  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
Embarrassing.
Hate to say it but we used  
idiotsavant : 9/9/2018 3:11 pm : link
That same E.E. attempted pass for first down line last year as well. In heels of an attempted ODB pass.

There is simply no substitute for an integrated running game.
great call  
family progtitioner : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
give one to them
Tackle held JEnkins on the edge  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
.
Bortles with more rushing yds than barkley  
micky : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
now lol
Just like  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
In exhibition game

No one stays fucking home
Awful  
illmatic : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
lol
Need to stiffen here  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
.
Thank God Fournette is out  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
.
Giants need to go hurry up offense on this team  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
.
Career long  
RottenApple : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
Always common in a Giants game.
un fucking real ...  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
laughable defense
Wow.  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
What a fake. Didn't maintain contain. Just like against NE.
Ronde is even more obnoxious than his brother  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 3:12 pm : link
and that's saying something.

Captain Obvious with an asshole attitude


Brutal defense.  
BlueHurricane : 9/9/2018 3:13 pm : link
Fucking Bortles
Eli looks old  
D_Giants : 9/9/2018 3:13 pm : link
Bortles is making Eli look decrepit. Missed TD pass to OBJ and slow in decisions. It might not have only been Bens fault for few TDs last year.
The Barbers are annoying me  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:13 pm : link
I need to mute this game
fool me once, shame on you  
SHO'NUFF : 9/9/2018 3:13 pm : link
fool me twice, change on Betcher
shame  
SHO'NUFF : 9/9/2018 3:14 pm : link
not change
RE: Brutal defense.  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:14 pm : link
In comment 14066811 BlueHurricane said:
Quote:
Fucking Bortles


JEnkins was held on the outside
I nearly had a heart attack there  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:14 pm : link
Yeldon looked like he could've picked that up
In defense of our O-line  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 3:14 pm : link
This is after all the first real game they have played together. That said, one thing is certain, over the last 7 years us fans have every right to be tired of having a shitty o-line.
I like what  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:14 pm : link
Betch has done so far.
So youre saying  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 3:14 pm : link
Theres a chance
Get Saquon the ball in space  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:14 pm : link
Find a way
Worst booth crew in the history of football  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 3:15 pm : link
Serious. Worst ever.
CATCH IT, FUCKER  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:15 pm : link
MOTHERFUCKER
ENgram  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 3:15 pm : link
Better fucking wake up
Engram  
CMicks3110 : 9/9/2018 3:15 pm : link
can't have so many drops
I'm getting tired  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:15 pm : link
of Engram's drops. Constant.
Wtf is up with Engram!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:16 pm : link
Needs to hold onto the football
EE hands issues.  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:16 pm : link
.
Jesus eli  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 3:16 pm : link
Can you lead a receiver???
Jerry Reese really left us high and dry...  
Reb8thVA : 9/9/2018 3:16 pm : link
Engram May be a weapon but Cam Robinson right now would do,a lot more to solve our fundamental problem
Engram shaping up to be the typical Giants tweener  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:16 pm : link
runs like a WR, catches like a TE
Where are the slants to OBJ  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:16 pm : link
.
Fournette out  
XBRONX : 9/9/2018 3:16 pm : link
Bortles blows, spells no offense.
RE: Worst booth crew in the history of football  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/9/2018 3:16 pm : link
In comment 14066822 trueblueinpw said:
Quote:
Serious. Worst ever.


Listen to Papa and Banks on internet broadcast and watch. The TV is a few seconds ahead of the internet radio so you can time the DVR to match.
Engram  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 3:17 pm : link
Drops a first down.
RE: Jerry Reese really left us high and dry...  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:17 pm : link
In comment 14066830 Reb8thVA said:
Quote:
Engram May be a weapon but Cam Robinson right now would do,a lot more to solve our fundamental problem


*Ryan Ramczyk
Jags  
D_Giants : 9/9/2018 3:17 pm : link
Have no respect for Giants offense.
Barkley  
CMicks3110 : 9/9/2018 3:17 pm : link
is so freaking fast
Finally ran  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:17 pm : link
that screen.
Oh dear God  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:17 pm : link
HE HAD THE FIRST DOWN AND YOU FUCKING HOLD!?!?!?
Engram better learn how to catch...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:17 pm : link
because we know he cannot block. So without any pass catching ability he is useless to us.
Oh Thank God  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:18 pm : link
I would've broken something if that had stood...
that's a really nice play  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 3:18 pm : link
like getting Barkley the ball clear of the o-line
RE: Jags  
Greg from LI : 9/9/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14066837 D_Giants said:
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Have no respect for Giants offense.


Why would they?
Barkley had room  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 3:18 pm : link
To his right on run up the middle
do we have a toss sweep  
SHO'NUFF : 9/9/2018 3:18 pm : link
in our arsenal?
Finally got Saquon some space  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:18 pm : link
and his first NFL catch is 18 yards for a 1st down
RE: RE: Jerry Reese really left us high and dry...  
Reb8thVA : 9/9/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14066836 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 14066830 Reb8thVA said:


Quote:


Engram May be a weapon but Cam Robinson right now would do,a lot more to solve our fundamental problem



*Ryan Ramczyk


Ramczyk as well
Tried muting - went with captions  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 3:19 pm : link
Hard to believe but Ronde reads even worse than he sounds.

Nice lil pass  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:19 pm : link
To Barkley, wow you think.
Staying optimistic....  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:19 pm : link
I still like our chances here.
What a freaking dog fight.....  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:19 pm : link
This Oline has to get more push.
I guess I am in the minority  
LG in NYC : 9/9/2018 3:20 pm : link
I like the announcers today
RE: do we have a toss sweep  
family progtitioner : 9/9/2018 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14066846 SHO'NUFF said:
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in our arsenal?


NOt a good play against this fast D
RE: Tried muting - went with captions  
markky : 9/9/2018 3:20 pm : link
In comment 14066849 Waldo Jeffers said:
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Hard to believe but Ronde reads even worse than he sounds.


he's both dull and annoying. hope he improves.
Ronde talks too much.  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:21 pm : link
#1 issue for analysts. Every simple thing doesnt require analysis on tv.
RE: Tried muting - went with captions  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14066849 Waldo Jeffers said:
Quote:
Hard to believe but Ronde reads even worse than he sounds.


Makes me miss Moose Johnston
RE: RE: Worst booth crew in the history of football  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14066834 Steve in South Jersey said:
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In comment 14066822 trueblueinpw said:


Quote:


Serious. Worst ever.



Listen to Papa and Banks on internet broadcast and watch. The TV is a few seconds ahead of the internet radio so you can time the DVR to match.



Always brother. Always. But every now and again I pull my earpiece out and, wow, these guys are horrible.
Agree Rebel  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 3:21 pm : link
need a big play get 7 somehow
I can't help but think you just run screens with Barkley  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 3:21 pm : link
until they stop it.
RE: Engram better learn how to catch...  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14066841 EricJ said:
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because we know he cannot block. So without any pass catching ability he is useless to us.


Pretty much...I saw him get a nice chip block in earlier
Obvious hold on Solder  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:21 pm : link
.
Solder did a rodeo move on Ngakoue  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
holding
Holding penalties  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
Kill fucking drives!
Game has been a yawn  
HomerJones45 : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
No rhythm, no flow, flags on every other play.
this o-line  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
just overmatched today.

Hopefully they gel and look better against a lesser defense. But, man, no cohesion at all today.

Frustrating
To many penalties!!  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
Damn..
Jesus  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
Solder is getting his ass handed to him by Yannick
what is the penalties and yardage for the giants today  
micky : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
holy
Did Nate Solder  
DC Gmen Fan : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
play this bad with New England??
Eli  
Thegratefulhead : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
He needs to throw a perfect pass or two this drive.
Cmon  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
Nate
On the next play Ngakoue beats Solder clean  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:22 pm : link
and almost crushes Eli
Nate Solder  
jlukes : 9/9/2018 3:23 pm : link
not having a great debut for his new team.
Solder getting abused  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 3:23 pm : link
.
Solder is not having a good series to say the least  
Essex : 9/9/2018 3:23 pm : link
...
Solder getting owned  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 3:23 pm : link
How many million?
3rd and long  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:23 pm : link
Once again, jeez,
Get the darn ball to 13.  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:23 pm : link
Cmon Shurmur.
I think  
D_Giants : 9/9/2018 3:24 pm : link
McAdoo is calling the plays under a Shurmer mask.
RE: Get the darn ball to 13.  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14066879 RDJR said:
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Cmon Shurmur.


He's been open a lot.
Trying to be patient and optimistic  
Reb8thVA : 9/9/2018 3:24 pm : link
But this is becoming unwatchable
People warned us  
SHO'NUFF : 9/9/2018 3:24 pm : link
about Solder
Giants need to sack Bortles and return it for 6  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 3:24 pm : link
that's their path to winning this game.
That 3rd down play should have been holding  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 3:24 pm : link
Against the jags. Shepard was grabbed
This is  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 3:24 pm : link
Awful offense
Eli finds Odell but 3rd and 20 was too long to convert  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:24 pm : link
Dixon booms a punt into the end zone
Great punt...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 3:25 pm : link
Need a 3 & out.
This shit OL  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:25 pm : link
gives us zero consistency. We just can't sustain drives. Always some screwing up.
We win or lose today in how  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 3:25 pm : link
O line performs rest of way.
this game  
UESBLUE : 9/9/2018 3:25 pm : link
is boring
RE: People warned us  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:25 pm : link
In comment 14066883 SHO'NUFF said:
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about Solder


Including me, but here's the thing: there were literally ZERO other options. Not in the Draft. Not in free agency. Solder was the only passable guy at LT.
Still getting beat in the trenches  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 3:25 pm : link
both sides of the ball ...
Got to force an error ... Defense wearing down ..
got a feeling this is where the jags put the nail in coffin here  
micky : 9/9/2018 3:25 pm : link
always works out that way with the giants
Get the ball downfield?!!  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
Nedd more vertical plays?! Shurmur's play calling is whack, all short plays looks like Mcadoos??! Man I miss Gilbride!!
3 Qts of football  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
And we cannot find the end zone. Damn
Watching this makes me want Gilbride back  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
no vertical offense whatsoever.
So far  
Jay in Toronto : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
Like Apple and Sterling.
RE: RE: People warned us  
SHO'NUFF : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14066892 Anakim said:
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In comment 14066883 SHO'NUFF said:


Quote:


about Solder



Including me, but here's the thing: there were literally ZERO other options. Not in the Draft. Not in free agency. Solder was the only passable guy at LT.


And we paid the ransom.
Penalties  
halfback20 : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
are killing drives for us it seems. Seems we've been 1st/2nd/3rd and 20 a bunch.
RE: Great punt...  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14066888 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Need a 3 & out.


The punt sucked. Touchback from one 41.
RE: People warned us  
Essex : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14066883 SHO'NUFF said:
Quote:
about Solder

I have no issue criticizing Flowers because he has a record here of bad play, but Solder deserves a break, its his first game against best pass rushing defense in the NFL. I think saying people warned us is a bit of s reach.
probably not scoring 30 today  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
.
.  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
Shannon Sharpe: I see one NFL job NYG RT E. Flowers might be able to accomplish w/o a problem, equipment manager. Flowers is as sorry as an Alaskan summer day is long.
got a feeling this is where our D puts the hammer down  
markky : 9/9/2018 3:26 pm : link
strip sack for 6
The  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 3:27 pm : link
Jaguars probably have the best OL and DL in the league. You're seeing that here today. We can't make any progress.
RE: Get the ball downfield?!!  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14066895 prdave73 said:
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Nedd more vertical plays?! Shurmur's play calling is whack, all short plays looks like Mcadoos??! Man I miss Gilbride!!

Seriously? Have you watched this line? We don't even have time to throw screen passes!
RE: RE: RE: Worst booth crew in the history of football  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14066858 trueblueinpw said:
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In comment 14066834 Steve in South Jersey said:


Quote:


In comment 14066822 trueblueinpw said:


Quote:


Serious. Worst ever.



Listen to Papa and Banks on internet broadcast and watch. The TV is a few seconds ahead of the internet radio so you can time the DVR to match.





Always brother. Always. But every now and again I pull my earpiece out and, wow, these guys are horrible.


Papa is brutal IMO. To each his own.
Schurmer  
D_Giants : 9/9/2018 3:27 pm : link
Is like McAdoo: still trying to establish the run. Is it too much to ask for one freakin TD? Jax was 10-6 last year, not 15-1.
Still a winnable game,  
81_Great_Dane : 9/9/2018 3:27 pm : link
because if you hang around like this, one flukey play can turn the game. But the O-line play is discouraging.
RE: Get the ball downfield?!!  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14066895 prdave73 said:
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Nedd more vertical plays?! Shurmur's play calling is whack, all short plays looks like Mcadoos??! Man I miss Gilbride!!


How the fuck do you propose to do that when there is zero time to throw? What's the magic way to get a ball downfield when your o-line can't even slow rushers down?
No pressure without blitzes!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:28 pm : link
Ugh
Bortles has all the time in the world  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 3:28 pm : link
jeesh!
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 3:28 pm : link
For as taltned as the Jax D is, they have 1 good offensive weapon.
First time I might've ever said this:  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
I love you, Eli Apple
Outstanding game by Apple  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
.
RE: RE: Get the ball downfield?!!  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14066911 jpkmets said:
Quote:
In comment 14066895 prdave73 said:


Quote:


Nedd more vertical plays?! Shurmur's play calling is whack, all short plays looks like Mcadoos??! Man I miss Gilbride!!



How the fuck do you propose to do that when there is zero time to throw? What's the magic way to get a ball downfield when your o-line can't even slow rushers down?

Well you see...that's why they called it the Run and Shoot. You use the run to set up the deep ball. Check it out on wikipedia.
That was nice defense  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
...
RE: probably not scoring 30 today  
D_Giants : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14066903 Waldo Jeffers said:
Quote:
.


Schurmer is an offensive genius, even more so than McAdoo. I expect hell at least get 12 points.
Apple has  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
been solid. Like what I see.
Eli Apple has been awesome so far today  
Essex : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
...
Kudos Apple  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
!!
Apple has been great today.  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
.
Another Bail out  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
By the D
Apple is probably the only bright spot  
eclipz928 : 9/9/2018 3:29 pm : link
for the Giants today.
Apple looking like....  
superspynyg : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
A football player

That is the best compliment you can give
Eli apple  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
fuck yeah!
Another good play  
dune69 : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
by Apple
Eli Apple playing a beautiful game  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
How about a pick 6, Mr Apple before the game is over
Apple came to play today!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
We need that desparetaly
Defense  
Rick5 : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
is looking good this half. Apple is impressive.
RE: Apple is probably the only bright spot  
TommyWiseau : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14066925 eclipz928 said:
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for the Giants today.


Apple and Jenkins
Apple playing well  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
today
Hell of a game by Apple  
eli4life : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
.
I can only listen and watch Red Zone.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
Has Eli Apple really been that good? If he's turned the corner that would be huge.
Apple showed up  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
Today
You like Apples?  
LAGiant : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
Now lets have drive for the win!
Can we do enough on offense to at least get one TD today?  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
.
RE: I can only listen and watch Red Zone.  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14066936 81_Great_Dane said:
Quote:
Has Eli Apple really been that good? If he's turned the corner that would be huge.


Yep. Knock on wood.
RE: Apple is probably the only bright spot  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14066925 eclipz928 said:
Quote:
for the Giants today.



really? i mean....4th quarter a superior team, best defense in the game and we down 4....OBJ doing fine, barkley doing fine when you consider this defense up front.

the secondary as a whole hasnt been bad.
Apple is having a great day  
adamg : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
Awesome to see
Shurmur play calling very disappointing  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 3:30 pm : link
Right now.
If the Giants  
XBRONX : 9/9/2018 3:31 pm : link
cant outscore this shit offense they are playing, sad story.
OBJ time  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 3:31 pm : link
Take it the fucking hizzow! To the fucking hizzow.
RE: I can only listen and watch Red Zone.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/9/2018 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14066936 81_Great_Dane said:
Quote:
Has Eli Apple really been that good? If he's turned the corner that would be huge.
Judging by this thread, apparently so...
An apple a day keeps the receivers away  
Canton : 9/9/2018 3:31 pm : link
.
RE: I can only listen and watch Red Zone.  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14066936 81_Great_Dane said:
Quote:
Has Eli Apple really been that good? If he's turned the corner that would be huge.


He's had 3 pass breakups. He's been good. Constantly on the hip of the receiver.
Let's matriculate the ball down the field!  
GiantsUA : 9/9/2018 3:31 pm : link
.
It's on the  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 3:31 pm : link
O line NOW
Jeffers  
idiotsavant : 9/9/2018 3:31 pm : link
Beauty of that Apple play is simply defending beautiful. If he'd turned for the pick.. it's a completion.
RE: Apple is probably the only bright spot  
Leg of Theismann : 9/9/2018 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14066925 eclipz928 said:
Quote:
for the Giants today.


I mean were only trailing the runner up in the AFC last year by 4 pts. We dont exactly look all around awful.
If nothing else  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 3:32 pm : link
This team is learning a lot. Now its time to find a score. All depends on o-line digging deeper.
RE: Shurmur play calling very disappointing  
81_Great_Dane : 9/9/2018 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14066943 Rflairr said:
Quote:
Right now.
I think this all comes back to line play. Doesn't matter what you call if your line can't keep the D from blowing up the play.
RE: Shurmur play calling very disappointing  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14066943 Rflairr said:
Quote:
Right now.
I don't have a problem with the playcalling.
Might've been better for Saquon to kick that outside  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:32 pm : link
.
Apple  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
is playing very well. He knew the Jaguars would pick on him, and he's responded. Good for him, especially in this weather.
Game over  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
Ereck Flowers...How fitting
Game over man  
NYerInMA : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
Nice blocking dickheads.
RE: RE: I can only listen and watch Red Zone.  
charlito : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14066940 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 14066936 81_Great_Dane said:


Quote:


Has Eli Apple really been that good? If he's turned the corner that would be huge.



Yep. Knock on wood.

Link - ( New Window )
Fucking Flowers  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Game over..  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
unfortunately.
F  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
Me
And that'll  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
do it. Flowers needs to FUCKING go!
oof  
family progtitioner : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
flowers
Ereck Flowers caused that pick  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
Eli did not have a chance to get that off
Flowers  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
what a fucking joke
RE: RE: Apple is probably the only bright spot  
Leg of Theismann : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14066952 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14066925 eclipz928 said:


Quote:


for the Giants today.



I mean were only trailing the runner up in the AFC last year by 4 pts. We dont exactly look all around awful.


Okay I shouldnt have said that. My bad.
Does flowers start next week?  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 3:33 pm : link
I cant see why he would
ELI'D!!!!!  
micky : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
.
Flowers is worse on the right side  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
.
Thats it.  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
OL still stinks.
And Omameh  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
Completely outmatched
Flowers  
TommyWiseau : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
Is one of the worst 1st round draft pick in Giants history
Oh well.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
.
Tip drill bites them in the ass  
Canton : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
.
Ereck Flowers  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
Game

Set

Match
Flowers is so  
AnishPatel : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
Fucking useless!!
What happened to the hand of  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
God running back?
Fuck!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
Thats pretty much it! Fucking Flowers and Eli with his patented turnover late!
RE: Flowers  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
In comment 14066974 TommyWiseau said:
Quote:
Is one of the worst 1st round draft pick in Giants history

Maybe the worst. He MUST go.
RE: Ereck Flowers caused that pick  
ajr2456 : 9/9/2018 3:34 pm : link
In comment 14066966 dpinzow said:
Quote:
Eli did not have a chance to get that off


So take the sack.
Punt Flowers  
Mr. Bungle : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
into the sun.
Could be staring right down at 0-3  
Sean : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
.
Oline  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
Letting down Eli Apple.
Seriously, bench Flowers  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
Wheeler may not be any better, but he can't be any worse.
Time for Flowers to go.  
FStubbs : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
It's literally impossible to be worse. A guy off the practice squad might give us a D level player instead of this F level player.
Flowers was fucking terrible there but so was Eli  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
take the fucking sack.
Flowers  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
must be replaced. Team looks better than last year, not saying much since team was league worst.

Team might get better, need to win at least one of first three.
Spread Flowers on  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
The Giants grave
I know Flowers was useless, but Eli cant get that ball ...  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
... batted. Just horrible.
Flowers threw that ball??  
Emlen'sGremlins : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
!!
looked like Eli stepped up an avoided the pressure but  
xman : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
then screwed the pooch. Pick 6
RE: ELI'D!!!!!  
Bramton1 : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
In comment 14066970 micky said:
Quote:
.


Stupidest post of the day.
RE: Ereck Flowers caused that pick  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
In comment 14066966 dpinzow said:
Quote:
Eli did not have a chance to get that off


Agreed, but why does 10 always make a back breaking play? Just eat it or throw it away.
RE: Fuck!  
PhiPsi125 : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
In comment 14066980 Simms11 said:
Quote:
Thats pretty much it! Fucking Flowers and Eli with his patented turnover late!


Bullshit, Flowers has fucked Eli and this team all day.
Draft next year  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
Ol, ol, ol...
How many days until  
Reb8thVA : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
The draft?
I don't know interior linemen play  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:35 pm : link
Would switching Hernandez and Omameh help at all?
D blew up the play.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
Eli's had a few balls tipped today. I don't think any QB could thrive under these conditions.
RE: What happened to the hand of  
family progtitioner : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14066979 bubba0825 said:
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God running back?


He's playing the role of Job with this OL
RE: Fucking Flowers  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14066961 montanagiant said:
Quote:
SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


At this point, how do you really blame Flowers? WE made the decision to keep him as our starter at RT. Our evaluation process. Flowers looks just as bad on the right side as he did on the left. We must have known this before today.
Flowers cannot be a starting offensive lineman anymore  
BlueHurricane : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
He absolutely had to be benched. Cant believe we are still discussing this.
RE: RE: ELI'D!!!!!  
micky : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14066994 Bramton1 said:
Quote:
In comment 14066970 micky said:


Quote:


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Stupidest post of the day.



ELI'D!!!
RE: RE: Ereck Flowers caused that pick  
lax counsel : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14066982 ajr2456 said:
Quote:
In comment 14066966 dpinzow said:


Quote:


Eli did not have a chance to get that off



So take the sack.


Even if it wasnt tipped, who was he throwing it too? Looked like the recover was in the process of falling forward.
Well.......  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
There goes game one ...
Eli hasn't had a chance to do anything ...
Flowers was even worse then I could imagine ....
It was just a matter of time really ...
RE: Draft next year  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14066997 igotyourbackman said:
Quote:
Ol, ol, ol...



we joke, but i wouldnt complain, they need a serious influx of OL talent
Flowers the dumbass  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
Eli the clutz.
Let's act like this isn't news to everyone.
Meet the new O-line...  
TexasGmenFan : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
...same as the old O-line

Flowers sucks everywhere and Solder certainly looks worth top $.
I cannot distinguish this Giants offense  
D_Giants : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
From that of the prior offensive guru that Mara hired. This is so Manning: if you cant score for your team, help the other team. Why keep Flowers in there? Backup cannot be worse.
6-  
UESBLUE : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
10.
RE: If the Giants  
Eman11 : 9/9/2018 3:36 pm : link
In comment 14066944 XBRONX said:
Quote:
cant outscore this shit offense they are playing, sad story.


Except they're not playing that shit offense. They're playing that great D
RE: How many days until  
81_Great_Dane : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14066998 Reb8thVA said:
Quote:
The draft?
Don't panic yet. If the team is still really bad in the second half of the season, then panic. It's very predictable that this team would struggle early.
RE: RE: ELI'D!!!!!  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14066994 Bramton1 said:
Quote:
In comment 14066970 micky said:


Quote:


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Stupidest post of the day.


Eli shares the blame.
RE: Flowers threw that ball??  
PhiPsi125 : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14066992 Emlen'sGremlins said:
Quote:
!!


Flowers has been the JAGs best defensive player today.

He might as well have thrown that ball.
Still plenty of time.  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
If the online can block anyone.
it will be a long long season,  
BIGbluegermany : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
the o line is still a joke.Okay first game of the season, but i don't see any progress.
RE: Flowers was fucking terrible there but so was Eli  
Bramton1 : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14066988 bigbluescot said:
Quote:
take the fucking sack.


He's got a receiver right there. Or are you supposed to drop to the ground every time you have to step up from the pressure?
Love you, Saquon  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
Where was that all game?
Fuck yea!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
.
...  
BleedBlue : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
kid is special
Wow...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
.
HOLY SHIT SAQUON WHAT A RUN  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
That was SPECIAL
Barkley pick  
UConn4523 : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
Suuuuucked
Barkley  
mrvax : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You knew Eli would do it  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
He doesnt every time. Well at least we took a RB with the number 2 pick
Darnold  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
Lol
Ok thats what  
igotyourbackman : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
We took him for
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Baby !!!!  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
!
Yes!  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
Barkley sweet!
Fuck me  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
That was beautiful
Saquon !  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
Takes it yard, lol
RE: What happened to the hand of  
PhiPsi125 : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14066979 bubba0825 said:
Quote:
God running back?


You were saying?
RE: What happened to the hand of  
map7711 : 9/9/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14066979 bubba0825 said:
Quote:
God running back?



You were saying???
I'm in love  
dune69 : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
!!!!
That was a freak play, but I dont know where Eli was going either.  
Jim in Hoboken : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
You cant ask for clean pockets against this defense.

Eli hasnt been checkdown Charlie but hasnt played well either.

Yeah Saquon!!
We sure needed that.  
Mad Mike : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
Saquon!
SAQUONED  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
!!
And thats why you draft Barkley  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
And not Darnold
Right back in it baby  
j_rud : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
Holy shit this kid is special
Plenty of blame to go around, both Flowers and Eli there  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
with a late boost from the hand of God!
RE: Well.......  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14067006 Bluesbreaker said:
Quote:
There goes game one ...
Eli hasn't had a chance to do anything ...
Flowers was even worse then I could imagine ....
It was just a matter of time really ...


not so fast! But Flowers does suck more than I thought he did too.

Barkley!  
TexasGmenFan : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
Fuck yes!
OMG  
giantfan2000 : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
RE: What happened to the hand of  
Amazinz : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14066979 bubba0825 said:
Quote:
God running back?


Lol. You were saying?
Barkley ran too upright  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
on that 2pt run
Engram blocking Campbell  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
Yeah, that'll work...
The Hand of God was stuck in traffic  
Greg from LI : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
But finally made it to the stadium, apparently
Thats why you draft that man  
BlueHurricane : 9/9/2018 3:38 pm : link
Fuckers
RE: What happened to the hand of  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14066979 bubba0825 said:
Quote:
God running back?

Want to delete this post?
Run right at cambell on two?  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
Why not sub Barkley?
Agree..  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
As horrible as Flowers is, the bottom line is the Coaching staff still made the choice to start him. Pretty much telling us, we have shitty Coaching again. Based on the play calls, I am not impressed at all with Shurmur! This is not on Eli at all, he was doing well, you cannot play QB without a good offensive line! plain and simple.
Hand of God,  
Mr. Bungle : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
motherfuckers.
Great block  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
By Shep.
Shepard with a terrific block on the edge  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
to spring Saquon for the rest of the run. But Saquon made the first 15 yards of it like few RBs could
RE: Engram blocking Campbell  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14067047 Anakim said:
Quote:
Yeah, that'll work...


Yes so stupid

Great run though?
RE: Great block  
oldutican : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14067054 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
Quote:
By Shep.

Agreed
Damn it!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
Poor play design on 2 pointer
RE: Great block  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
In comment 14067054 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
Quote:
By Shep.


absolutely. Shepard is having a great game.
Bad call on the 2  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
Run behind EE? Not the right call. Especially after the long run. Bush.
Why run behind Engram there?  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 3:39 pm : link
.
Bad  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 3:40 pm : link
play call on the two point conversion. Too obvious.
Impressive  
lax counsel : 9/9/2018 3:40 pm : link
By Barkley.
Eli should have probably  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 3:40 pm : link
taken the sack. Flowers aint great but it was tough for any tackle to get out there.

Great blocking by Shepard - talk about momentum shifts within 1 minute
We need a  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:40 pm : link
turnover here.
I love seeing the Barkley haters  
Mr. Bungle : 9/9/2018 3:40 pm : link
choke on that.

It will be fun every time.
Does running SB for the 2PAT  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 3:40 pm : link
make sense after such a long run?
Flowers looks great.  
NoPeanutz : 9/9/2018 3:40 pm : link
Great to see SQN in Penn State form.
Crucial 2pt conversion  
eclipz928 : 9/9/2018 3:40 pm : link
missed opportunity
Lets get a TE with a fat ass.  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 3:40 pm : link
Lots of meat in the seat.
Barely any pressure  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:41 pm : link
.
RE: Agree..  
81_Great_Dane : 9/9/2018 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14067052 prdave73 said:
Quote:
As horrible as Flowers is, the bottom line is the Coaching staff still made the choice to start him. Pretty much telling us, we have shitty Coaching again.
Or, shitty talent -- nobody better than Flowers to put in ahead of him. Either way, that's a problem.
..  
charlito : 9/9/2018 3:41 pm : link
In da face!!
Nice job, BJ  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:41 pm : link
.
It always amazes me on these Game Threads  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 3:41 pm : link
To see the attempts at placing blame with such glee on Eli.

If you blame that on him you're not only an idiot you have no clue about Football.

Take a sack? Why because he knew the ball would get tipped?
It's just mind-boggling to see it from so-called fans of this team. I have said it before and firmly believe that many of you would rather see this team lose to just prove some fucking idiotic hatred you have for a player
BJ Hill  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
a very nice play
I think was the first  
mrvax : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
time I actually saw a little hole for Barkley all game.
Close to  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
a horse collar?
Dont take a RB #2 overall  
Leg of Theismann : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
You can find one who breaks 80 yd TD runs on a regular basis in the 3rd or 4th round.
That's a 3Rd rounf rookie  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
.
no pass rush  
TexasGmenFan : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
...
Horse Collar Hill  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
..
BJ HILL GUNN BE SPECIAL!!!!  
Canton : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
.
Yeah, Barwin  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
Clutch!
close  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
to horse collar whew
That facemask  
SomeFan : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
Bordered on a disqualification ay.
Lost in all of this  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
Andrew Norwall doesn't seem like he's worth anywhere near what he got paid today.
Hand of God  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
Has this team fired up!
Connor Barwin made the tip  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
Giants D forces a 3 and out
3rd round pick?!!  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
What the Fu...?!
We're still  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
in this thing. Cmon!!!
Barkley  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
Did that at Penn State.

Hes a special player period.
Get the ball to OBJ  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
Take it to the fucking hizzow OBJ. To the hizzow!
D fense  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
really keeping us in ! Great job
RE: It always amazes me on these Game Threads  
mrvax : 9/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14067075 montanagiant said:
Quote:
To see the attempts at placing blame with such glee on Eli.

If you blame that on him you're not only an idiot you have no clue about Football.

Take a sack? Why because he knew the ball would get tipped?
It's just mind-boggling to see it from so-called fans of this team. I have said it before and firmly believe that many of you would rather see this team lose to just prove some fucking idiotic hatred you have for a player


Largely because the Giants didn't draft their QB.
RE: You knew Eli would do it  
santacruzom : 9/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14067026 Rflairr said:
Quote:
He doesnt every time. Well at least we took a RB with the number 2 pick


That's some "why the hell is Tyree in there" timing right there.
RE: Dont take a RB #2 overall  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
In comment 14067079 Leg of Theismann said:
Quote:
You can find one who breaks 80 yd TD runs on a regular basis in the 3rd or 4th round.


Kinda like the offensive rookie of the year and the rushing title holder in 2017 were exactly that.
What  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 3:43 pm : link
a run by Barkley.

Hill got away with a horse collar tackle.

How did  
D_Giants : 9/9/2018 3:44 pm : link
DG improve the punt return team?
why  
CMicks3110 : 9/9/2018 3:44 pm : link
put in Stewart
Giants have more playmakers than the Jags..  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 3:44 pm : link
We can win this game
Nice decision by Eli there...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:44 pm : link
.
RE: I love seeing the Barkley haters  
lax counsel : 9/9/2018 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14067066 Mr. Bungle said:
Quote:
choke on that.

It will be fun every time.


Theyve scored 15 points with a qb who fed phantom pressure and struggles to deliver an accurate ball downfield, and an oline that struggles to block. No one said Barkley was the problem. They said it makes little sense to draft a running back when you have such other glaring problems.
Acidtest  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 3:44 pm : link
Gotta let em play ;-)
Have to kick it here  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:45 pm : link
.
Barkley has to learn to reach  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:45 pm : link
sometimes.....
ah man barkley  
Jerz44 : 9/9/2018 3:45 pm : link
just gotta put those hands out thismuch before you go out
Swing pass  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:45 pm : link
Good call
punt time  
micky : 9/9/2018 3:45 pm : link
.
Jags defense  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:45 pm : link
is FAST!
These are some  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:46 pm : link
solid punts when we need them.
Lets Go D  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
Get the stop......
Welp...  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
Maybe the defense can score.
Go Giants  
BIGbluegermany : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
yeah ,it's raining,strong defense,that's New York Giants Football.Now we need some magic from Eli
Our punter is pretty  
dune69 : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
good
INT  
D_Giants : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
For 6. Giants O needs another week before it scores another TD.
Kerry Wynn down on that ST tackle....  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
Hes really continued to play well and thats a nice thing for this D.
RE: RE: I love seeing the Barkley haters  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14067103 lax counsel said:
Quote:
In comment 14067066 Mr. Bungle said:


Quote:


choke on that.

It will be fun every time.



Theyve scored 15 points with a qb who fed phantom pressure and struggles to deliver an accurate ball downfield, and an oline that struggles to block. No one said Barkley was the problem. They said it makes little sense to draft a running back when you have such other glaring problems.



They said you had to take a QB period.
Playcalling that drive was  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
questionable. 26 not even on the field on first down.
Blake Bortles looks like he's  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
45 years old. Just sayin.
What we need is the trademark stupid Bortles INT  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
c'mon Bortles!
Dumbass coaches  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
They put Stewart in after Barkley just did that. Just stupid shit
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 3:47 pm : link
This is a very winnable game.

Have to contain Bortles legs and make him throw it downfield.
Massive upgrade at punter  
BlueHurricane : 9/9/2018 3:48 pm : link
So far
wow..  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 3:48 pm : link
So many weapons, yet nothing.. the defense has to win this game. smh.
RE: Our punter is pretty  
Bramton1 : 9/9/2018 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14067115 dune69 said:
Quote:
good


He's got a leg. Although I'm worried about him outkicking the coverage.
several mistakes  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 3:48 pm : link
cost Gianst the lead. 2 overthrown balls, drop by Engram, and letting Bartles gallop fpor 40 yards.

No doubt this team is a lot better....hopefully Flowers continues to get better. And they are playing a great defense.
The  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 3:49 pm : link
D has played extremely well. Jacksonville has punted every time they've had the ball this half. Their only points are off an INT. But we need one more stop. It's getting late.
Our special teams might just be fixed  
ZGiants98 : 9/9/2018 3:49 pm : link
Excellent job by the kickers and coverage units.
Seems like Ray Ray has gotten more snaps than Goodson  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:49 pm : link
.
RE: wow..  
family progtitioner : 9/9/2018 3:49 pm : link
In comment 14067125 prdave73 said:
Quote:
So many weapons, yet nothing.. the defense has to win this game. smh.


Likely best D in NFL
Shaky OL
In fact that was the point  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 3:49 pm : link
Where they should have put Barkley out wide and burned them as a receiver. any thing but be on the sidelines
Big third down here  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:49 pm : link
We need a stop
They'll keep it  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:49 pm : link
on the ground. Can we stop them?
Jags have chance to run this game out here  
micky : 9/9/2018 3:50 pm : link
.
RE: The  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:50 pm : link
In comment 14067128 AcidTest said:
Quote:
D has played extremely well. Jacksonville has punted every time they've had the ball this half. Their only points are off an INT. But we need one more stop. It's getting late.


this is the most important drive. Allowing Yeldon to get 6 yards on 1st down is not good. 3rd down here. Biggest defensive play of the game
Flowers will not get better.. sorry.  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 3:50 pm : link
Shurmur needs to get better. His play calling has been very questionable. whack. smh..
That timeout  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 3:50 pm : link
gonna haunt us?
RE: That timeout  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14067138 RDJR said:
Quote:
gonna haunt us?


Missing one of those two TD passes will be the difference maker
RE: Flowers will not get better.. sorry.  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14067137 prdave73 said:
Quote:
Shurmur needs to get better. His play calling has been very questionable. whack. smh..


Bold statement. This is Flowers first game at RT...against an all pro DE. You're saying this is as good as it gets?
Like to see the rookies contributing  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:51 pm : link
Saquon, Carter and Hill
moving the chains  
micky : 9/9/2018 3:51 pm : link
up to D
Zo-Cart!  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/9/2018 3:51 pm : link
.
Zo....  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:51 pm : link
Nice play
truly need a stop right now  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 3:51 pm : link
come on defense. no setting up right after the sticks. Got to make actual plays here.
he called 2 TDS  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 3:51 pm : link
but ball was overthrown
Ronde says Carter is "athletic as crap"  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 3:51 pm : link
that's hall of fame broadcasting
Collins needs to make a play now  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:52 pm : link
.
3rd and ten  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 3:52 pm : link
come the fuck on D. Do this! Give us a shot!
Collins  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:52 pm : link
good vision there
One more  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:53 pm : link
stop! Cmon D
Apple  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/9/2018 3:53 pm : link
The good Eli!
4th Down  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:53 pm : link
Here we go, again


Let's go, O
RE: Ronde says Carter is  
BlueHurricane : 9/9/2018 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14067147 Waldo Jeffers said:
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that's hall of fame broadcasting


I was wondering if that was what I just heard.
FEROCIUOS  
NoPeanutz : 9/9/2018 3:53 pm : link
defense this half. Great job, coaches!
LC!!  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:53 pm : link
The guys just does it.
OK, there's the stop  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 3:53 pm : link
just need sayquon or OBJ to bust one now.
The 12th man is  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 3:53 pm : link
nice and loud now! Keep it up fans!
LC good tackle  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:54 pm : link
By the defensive CPT
Textbook Tackle  
LeftHook : 9/9/2018 3:54 pm : link
BY Collins damn
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 3:54 pm : link
OK Eli
This dude is doing the same idiotic stuff as McAdoo  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 3:54 pm : link
All the way to the stupid rotating RBs. I cant believe Barkley wasnt out there for that series. Huge momentum shift and they help them with that nonsense
OK, nice start!  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 3:54 pm : link
Good work Odell fiding the hole.
Here we go  
LG in NYC : 9/9/2018 3:54 pm : link
4 minutes, down by 5.

new O Line, new shiny RB, all those weapons... let's win this game
Wow. Eli  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:55 pm : link
actually had time. Imagine that.
Wow  
mrvax : 9/9/2018 3:55 pm : link
Eli had time!
OK...we know the OLine sucks..  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 3:55 pm : link
can Eli be the vet QB that leads us to a score?
Jaguars gave the Giants a chance here  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/9/2018 3:55 pm : link
by passing in the last series
We have to pass to win here  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:55 pm : link
.
WHAT A LASER  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:55 pm : link
Nice job, Eli!
Love that Odell  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 3:56 pm : link
keep it up!
weird seeing the Giants  
NoPeanutz : 9/9/2018 3:56 pm : link
and Eli in the pistol.
Someone didn't want to pay OBJ  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 3:56 pm : link
They should have to turn off their TV right now.
Beautiful dime  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 3:56 pm : link
from Eli
Ugh, Shep  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:56 pm : link
Could've had another first down there
That drop really hurts  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:56 pm : link
damn
Running Jonathan Stewart when we're down by 5 with 2 minutes to  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:57 pm : link
go...
Why is  
lax counsel : 9/9/2018 3:57 pm : link
Stewart touching the ball??
Stewart? Really?!  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 3:57 pm : link
.
What was the point of that?  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:58 pm : link
Seriously, what was the point of that play?
be a nice time  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 3:58 pm : link
for Latimer to make a big play
That drop was a 1st down  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 3:58 pm : link
Shepard is usually reliable with those
Wow Shurmur just wow  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 3:58 pm : link
.
That Shep drop  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:58 pm : link
does hurt. Just such a momentum killer.
RE: What was the point of that?  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14067182 Anakim said:
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Seriously, what was the point of that play?


To get it to the 2 minute warning?
Those delayed HOs  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:58 pm : link
Suck.....gives the defense a chance to get penetration.
RE: Running Jonathan Stewart when we're down by 5 with 2 minutes to  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14067179 Anakim said:
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go...


Really have to question Shurmer there....

4 down territory here
RE: This dude is doing the same idiotic stuff as McAdoo  
Canton : 9/9/2018 3:58 pm : link
In comment 14067163 Rflairr said:
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All the way to the stupid rotating RBs. I cant believe Barkley wasnt out there for that series. Huge momentum shift and they help them with that nonsense


Oh yeah? You're trying to hard buddy.
Again up to Eli  
micky : 9/9/2018 3:58 pm : link
remember no excuses this year
RE: RE: What was the point of that?  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14067187 bigbluescot said:
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In comment 14067182 Anakim said:


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Seriously, what was the point of that play?



To get it to the 2 minute warning?


We're down by 5...it's third down...you don't milk the clock
Shep drop sucked.  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
Agree, do not understand handoff to Stewart there
Shurmur  
Marty866b : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
Loves him some Stewart.
if u pass it every play  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
they pin their ears back. amkes 3rd & 4th down more manageable
I think this is 4 down territory  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
FG not tying or winning this game.
first play of the second half: Time Out.  
NoPeanutz : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
... Hope that doesn't haunt us.
RE: RE: RE: What was the point of that?  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14067192 Anakim said:
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In comment 14067187 bigbluescot said:


Quote:


In comment 14067182 Anakim said:


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Seriously, what was the point of that play?



To get it to the 2 minute warning?



We're down by 5...it's third down...you don't milk the clock


It was 2nd down. We're in 4 down territory.
Hate to second guess Coach  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
but yeah, running Stewart on second down with time running out.

Bothersome
You gotta'  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
think we target OBJ here. Time for something big.
disagree with the decision to let the clock run to  
eclipz928 : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
2 minutes. Jags defense is gassed, should have got another play off.
RE: if u pass it every play  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 3:59 pm : link
In comment 14067195 bc4life said:
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they pin their ears back. amkes 3rd & 4th down more manageable


Nobody's saying not to run - but Stewart over Barkley or Gallman?
...  
christian : 9/9/2018 4:00 pm : link
Gallman is banged up. I'd cut Stewart myself, but there's not much else to do. Barkely can't take every carry.
3-4 yard run  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:00 pm : link
not a problem - 4 down territory
RE: RE: if u pass it every play  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14067203 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14067195 bc4life said:


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they pin their ears back. amkes 3rd & 4th down more manageable



Nobody's saying not to run - but Stewart over Barkley or Gallman?


Gallman's out for the game
RE: RE: RE: RE: What was the point of that?  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 4:00 pm : link
In comment 14067198 bigbluescot said:
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In comment 14067192 Anakim said:


Quote:


In comment 14067187 bigbluescot said:


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In comment 14067182 Anakim said:


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Seriously, what was the point of that play?



To get it to the 2 minute warning?



We're down by 5...it's third down...you don't milk the clock



It was 2nd down. We're in 4 down territory.


So what? We're down by 5. We're not in the redzone
That wasn't  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 4:01 pm : link
doing anything even if caught
Flowers is awful  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 4:01 pm : link
.
We had no play there  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 4:01 pm : link
....
wish both Stewart and Flowers  
markky : 9/9/2018 4:01 pm : link
were somewhere else
dangerous throw  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:01 pm : link
lot of pressure = 1st and goal next play
this is it ....Eli  
micky : 9/9/2018 4:01 pm : link
.
Flowers...  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 4:01 pm : link
Flowers again
That's PI  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 4:01 pm : link
He held SHEP!
That was interference on 4th down  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 4:01 pm : link
No flag
Early contact there  
SimpleMan : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
Come on ref
Underthrown  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
.
Well they hung in there better than I expected  
NYerInMA : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
but Flowers is just too much to overcome.
We havent gotten a call  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
All game
Flowers beaten again  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
.
And that's that  
micky : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
0-1
That was  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
Marginal interference
How the fuck was that not PI?  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
Ref was right there and saw him grab Shepards arm
Not sure how that wasn't PI  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
.
DPI  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
.
Shitty, shitty execution  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
.
had Shepards  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
arm - how do miss that call on such a critical play
Eli drops  
mrvax : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
the f-bomb. Flowers abused on the 4th down play focing Eli to spin before making that throw.
Definitely  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 4:02 pm : link
pass interference
Not sure how that  
halfback20 : 9/9/2018 4:03 pm : link
wasn't pass interference?

Held his arm/hand...didn't even look for the ball. Fuck these refs.
RE: We havent gotten a call  
family progtitioner : 9/9/2018 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14067221 bubba0825 said:
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All game


I hope you're not serious
maybe should have been PI  
LG in NYC : 9/9/2018 4:03 pm : link
but ball thrown behind Shep who had a step on the defender.
Shep had to slow down instead of running through the catch
PI  
BlueHurricane : 9/9/2018 4:03 pm : link
Not called.

Typical.
RE: We havent gotten a call  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/9/2018 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14067221 bubba0825 said:
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All game


Literally 70 yards worth of penalties earlier in the game on defensive penalties in our favor.
last 3 plays Shurmur goes to  
Shirk130 : 9/9/2018 4:03 pm : link
Stewart, Engram, Sheppard
_  
Banks : 9/9/2018 4:03 pm : link
under-thrown, but I don't know how that isn't PI. Contact while ball is in the air and he never turned his head
Well,  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 4:03 pm : link
we played tough. Jacksonville was just too good, even without Fournette. They controlled both lines of scrimmage. Their DOL was especially good.
Shitty execution? Underthrown? Sorry, DPI  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 4:03 pm : link
...
A close call  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 4:04 pm : link
Those were obvious
RE: How the fuck was that not PI?  
BigBlueinDE : 9/9/2018 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14067225 montanagiant said:
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Ref was right there and saw him grab Shepards arm



Agreed. Terrible non-call. Even Barber admitted it was holding.
this offense will wear out the defense soon......  
thrunthrublue : 9/9/2018 4:04 pm : link
looking into the teeth of being 0 and 3.....then the fun will begin....
Should we have kicked the fg?  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 4:04 pm : link
Made it a 2 Point game. KO and then only need 3 to win.
Beckham  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 4:04 pm : link
Returning the punt?
If we force punt  
santacruzom : 9/9/2018 4:04 pm : link
They better put OBJ as the returner.
Defense pitched a shutout this half  
NoPeanutz : 9/9/2018 4:04 pm : link
really impressive.
We're stuck in the MacAdoo dark ages with this offense.
I'd still like to know why we burned a play with that Stewart run  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 4:04 pm : link
.
OPI on EE...  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 4:04 pm : link
But thats not DPI on Shep? Ok NFL. Ok.
It was absolutely underthrown  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
but that doesn't make it any less a PI penalty, not like it wasn't catchable.
Shame when are expecting the refs  
LG in NYC : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
to bail us out.
Theyre turning it over to their D  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
......ugly......this is going to be extremely difficult as they wont let anything get deep
I dont mind the run, I just hate it on second down  
Essex : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
when you got nothing on first.
Shit ....  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
can't get 6 lousy yards on two downs......
tough loss ....
Anyone wants to hang this on Eli need a Ban ...
Game over  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
Muffed punt
Ronde, "gotta get down there, score a touchdown."  
Waldo Jeffers : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
Thanks for that.
what a  
NoPeanutz : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
PIECE of SHT ending.
same old  
UESBLUE : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
giants :(
lol  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
Thanks special teams
Well, that was anticlimactic  
Mad Mike : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
*
Comical  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
.
Who will  
Jay in Toronto : 9/9/2018 4:05 pm : link
Return punt?
RE: If we force punt  
trueblueinpw : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
In comment 14067248 santacruzom said:
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They better put OBJ as the returner.


Yeah... good idea. If ever there was a time for him to return it was there.
So fucking  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
pathetic. So Giant-like.
Are you fucking kidding me!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
We let Sharp and Raymond go for that!
Idiot  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
Just signed to do that?
Gotta wonder why we didn't put Odell back there  
Anakim : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
At such a crucial point in the game
LOL.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
What a joke.
Someone please explain to me...  
Tesla : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
why OBJ was not back there to return that punt?
Wow  
illmatic : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
Not even that surprised.
Jesus H Christ...  
bw in dc : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
Let Beckham field those punts.
Good thinking  
santacruzom : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
Coach
SHURMUR!  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
OMG. Horrible. Freaking Clay.
Dont get too upset about that guys...  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
the game was over 4 downs earlier. At least we kept it close.
WTF?  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
Why go to your knees to field the punt?
And there you have it.  
FStubbs : 9/9/2018 4:06 pm : link
We can cut Lattimer now.
Crushing loss  
mrvax : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
I really wanted to see Eli with 55 seconds. Dammit.
memo to coach shurmer......  
thrunthrublue : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
cut flowers, cut punt returner......
RE: And there you have it.  
jcn56 : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14067280 FStubbs said:
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We can cut Lattimer now.


Wasn't Lattimer, it was Clay.
Same ol same ol  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
.
New season,  
RottenApple : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
Same bullshit.
And where was PI  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
on the play to Shepard? The defender never turned and grabbed his arm.
Why would you not have Beckham back there for that.  
NY-Fan : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
Those are the only situations I would put him back there for.
RE: WTF?  
bigbluescot : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14067279 Matt M. said:
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Why go to your knees to field the punt?


He did it earlier.
RE: Shit ....  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14067256 Bluesbreaker said:
Quote:
can't get 6 lousy yards on two downs......
tough loss ....
Anyone wants to hang this on Eli need a Ban ...


Its not on him. But that pass to Shepard was pretty mediocre. There was room for that play to happen with a better throw.
RE: And there you have it.  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14067280 FStubbs said:
Quote:
We can cut Lattimer now.
why would you cut Lattimer?
Didnt think wed drive down the field  
Jersey Heel : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
But I would have liked to see if we could.
Special teams knuckleheads  
Mr. Bungle : 9/9/2018 4:07 pm : link
seem to be a New York Giants staple.

Brain-dead, low-football-IQ idiots.
Giants did some good things today  
GiantsUA : 9/9/2018 4:08 pm : link
Offensive line was not good
One fucking play killed us......Flowers and Eli patented 4 th Qtr TO..  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 4:08 pm : link
I would have put OBJ back there on that PR
couple of plays  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:08 pm : link
and they win this game. the db was holding Shepards arm on the 4th down play.

overthrown TD pass. something to build on.
Clay, very explosive, not good with ball security.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/9/2018 4:08 pm : link
This is what he was brought in to do. If he can't do it, he has no role. In a day or two he might not have a job.
Where Did they  
bigblue18 : 9/9/2018 4:09 pm : link
find the punt return? Great job!
This one is on Shurmur  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 4:09 pm : link
Fucking moron
If Jalen Clay  
chopperhatch : 9/9/2018 4:09 pm : link
Still has a job by Tuesday, I will be astonished.


He literally had ONE job.
not certain they score on that drive  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:10 pm : link
there were other missed opportunities
RE: couple of plays  
RDJR : 9/9/2018 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14067314 bc4life said:
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and they win this game. the db was holding Shepards arm on the 4th down play.

overthrown TD pass. something to build on.


Its professional football. No silver linings.
RE: This one is on Shurmur  
chopperhatch : 9/9/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14067332 Rflairr said:
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Fucking moron



Huh huh huh howwwwwwwww?


Shurmur was fine....AND it was his first game!

they played  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:11 pm : link
one of best nfl defenses - and they are breaking in a new scheme.
The drive after the Barkley score  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 4:11 pm : link
Is the real problem. Putting Stewart in there was simply moronic. Had all the momentum
On the bright side  
Eman11 : 9/9/2018 4:13 pm : link
That might very well be the best team we see in the trenches and all around we see all year.

Disappointing loss no question but I see the arrow pointing up. Need better play by the O - Line but if we get that, it could be a really good year
who said silver linings  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:13 pm : link
referring to all the people standing on a cliff ledge.

they played a team that was a couple of plays away form super bowl, a great defense.
RE: not certain they score on that drive  
chopperhatch : 9/9/2018 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14067342 bc4life said:
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there were other missed opportunities


Doesnt matter if you're not sure. Eli strapped up. Odell strapped up. Saquon strapped up. Shep and Engram looking for redemption and you placate yourself by not giving those guys a chance at scoring a game winnung TD?

Fucking brutal given how they played.
Giants cannot afford to missfire  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:14 pm : link
on major plays. couple of Eli overthrows, drop by Evans. could bitch about no apss int call but I think we got waya witha horse collar
Another miserable season  
bigblue18 : 9/9/2018 4:15 pm : link
Must win in dallas
RE: This one is on Shurmur  
M.S. : 9/9/2018 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14067332 Rflairr said:
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Fucking moron

Giants lost to a better team which was without its number one asset in the entire second half.

The Giants battled but their o line was owned by the best NFL front line

That's no shame

How do we respond next week?

How does Flowers play next week?

Like a Flower Pot?
RE: RE: not certain they score on that drive  
chopperhatch : 9/9/2018 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14067385 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 14067342 bc4life said:


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there were other missed opportunities



Doesnt matter if you're not sure. Eli strapped up. Odell strapped up. Saquon strapped up. Shep and Engram looking for redemption and you placate yourself by not giving those guys a chance at scoring a game winnung TD?

Fucking brutal given how they played.


Btw,the "placate yourself" wasnt an attack. Just spoke harshly because I thought they shoulda got the chance.


But the team looked good.
How in the actual fuck  
Leg of Theismann : 9/9/2018 4:16 pm : link
Was Flowers a top 10 draft pick? Hes been given every opportunity to succeed, switched positions, different coaching staff, was made clear that he is basically playing for his football life this year with 5th year option not being picked up, and invariably he just fucking sucks.
chopper  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:16 pm : link
no doubt it's brutal but they had earlier misssteps that could have given them the lead
RE: RE: This one is on Shurmur  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14067401 M.S. said:
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In comment 14067332 Rflairr said:


Quote:


Fucking moron


Giants lost to a better team which was without its number one asset in the entire second half.

The Giants battled but their o line was owned by the best NFL front line

That's no shame

How do we respond next week?

How does Flowers play next week?

Like a Flower Pot?



Flowers should be benched. Wheeler cant be worse
he's worse  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:20 pm : link
and coaching staff was saying he is better on left side
I am very happy with their  
chopperhatch : 9/9/2018 4:22 pm : link
Play. Penalties by Flowers (Solder's he just got beat) and drops absolutely killed us. You can actually make the argument that Flowers single handedly lost us the game with the penalties and getting beat on the deflection> pick> TD. But film might show otherwise.

ELI, Saq, ODB looked great. On to Dallas
RE: chopper  
chopperhatch : 9/9/2018 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14067411 bc4life said:
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no doubt it's brutal but they had earlier misssteps that could have given them the lead


100%. But that PR literally has one job. That was actually one of the times Odell shoulda been back there. Maybe not a TD, maybe not 20 yards, but a CATCH would have been nice.

All aside, hes a 100 million dollar player at this point, Antonio does it for Pitt....thats where you stick Odell in there at PR. To CATCH THE BALL ajd then maybe get you 15 on the return. Only glaring mistake Shurmur made for me.
and Vernon  
bc4life : 9/9/2018 4:29 pm : link
didn't play
RE: and Vernon  
chopperhatch : 9/9/2018 4:34 pm : link
In comment 14067518 bc4life said:
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didn't play


bc, Im with you. Totally okay with this loss. Was a great game.


Just that PR.....why? Odell is made for that exact kick situation. Even if he is back there explicitly told to fair catch it.

JALEN fucking CLAY???????
RE: Someone please explain to me...  
AcesUp : 9/9/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14067272 Tesla said:
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why OBJ was not back there to return that punt?


This is a fair question.
RE: RE: Someone please explain to me...  
chopperhatch : 9/9/2018 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14067564 AcesUp said:
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In comment 14067272 Tesla said:


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why OBJ was not back there to return that punt?



This is a fair question.


Its my only one. My only answer is that it's game 1, he is coming off injury.


But that is THEE ODB PR scenario.
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