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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/9/2018 12:50 pm
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EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14066139 BleedBlue said:
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I Know most hate the call but imo its good., OBJ can score but more importantly you gaurantee three. rainy day, pts are vital after a takeaway there....


The ONLY good thing is that it gives defenses something else to think about. Still.. I would rather see a pass into the end zone there.
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christian : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
Keep that one in your brain, next time the argument comes up that Engram is better outside than he is inline.

He's just not a very good blocker.
RE: if engram is in  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14066133 Thunderstruck27 said:
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inside the 10 he needs to be a WR..he can't block for shit


The problem is that Flowers can’t either.

The Giants probably need to use 6 OL in that situation.

Terrible job  
Sammo85 : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
by Engram on that run play. You have to commit to the block to prevent penetration like that and forget your release to option route.
I didn’t love the calls  
Chris684 : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
down near the goal line, but I am liking that Shurmur is moving Eli around and I like even better that Eli looks good in doing so.
Playcalling was strange in the redzone??  
prdave73 : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
again?? Not only did that look so conservative, didn't make sense? Throw the ball!
Not  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
a fan of reverse on third and goal from the eight, especially in this weather. Thought some of Eli's passes were off target. Some good running by Barkley.
Good series..some observations  
DC Gmen Fan : 9/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
1 Eli looks a little more mobile, but is throwing a little behind the receivers on the run

2 Barkley has that quick ability to hit the line and adapt - that will be huge for us and has been missing for a long time

3 Much better footwork by Flowers
Some might not agree, but I didn't mind that 3rd down call  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:37 pm : link
Get the ball to a playmaker in OBJ in a creative way. If it doesn't work, they have the FG. It also may set up something later. I also liked the call earlier on the drive where he motioned to the backfield and then received the swing pass.
Barkley looks like he’s nicked up a bit  
bubba0825 : 9/9/2018 1:37 pm : link
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Fournette  
Jerz44 : 9/9/2018 1:37 pm : link
is a good runner. Giants D seems to almost be able to bottle him up, and then he pops a few more yards.
RE: Good series..some observations  
Boy Cord : 9/9/2018 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14066153 DC Gmen Fan said:
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1 Eli looks a little more mobile, but is throwing a little behind the receivers on the run

2 Barkley has that quick ability to hit the line and adapt - that will be huge for us and has been missing for a long time

3 Much better footwork by Flowers


Their lines are beating our lines.
RE: RE: Good series..some observations  
DC Gmen Fan : 9/9/2018 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14066157 Boy Cord said:
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In comment 14066153 DC Gmen Fan said:


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1 Eli looks a little more mobile, but is throwing a little behind the receivers on the run

2 Barkley has that quick ability to hit the line and adapt - that will be huge for us and has been missing for a long time

3 Much better footwork by Flowers



Their lines are beating our lines.


I was trying to be a little positive :)
RE: Good series..some observations  
RobCarpenter : 9/9/2018 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14066153 DC Gmen Fan said:
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1 Eli looks a little more mobile, but is throwing a little behind the receivers on the run

2 Barkley has that quick ability to hit the line and adapt - that will be huge for us and has been missing for a long time

3 Much better footwork by Flowers


At least he didn’t trip anyone. And he had help on some of those plays.
I can't help but wonder if OBJ  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/9/2018 1:40 pm : link
had an option to pass there. Maybe even designed that way but everyone looked covered so OBJ took the safer route and went down.
Have to stop this running game  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:40 pm : link
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where's  
CMicks3110 : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
snacks
Run D  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
Needs to be better. To many tackles of Fornette by DBs
JAX feeding Fournette  
dpinzow : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
to set up play action soon
Another big from last year was on the 3rd down conversion  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
in the red zone. Last year, we would have had 2-3 guys in the same area short of the sticks. This call had layers. Shepard was in the flat drawinbg attention and Lattimer on the same side running a skinny post (I think) drawing a safety. This left a hole for OBJ to run to from the opposite side of the formation. If they committed to doubling OBJ, either Lattimer is open near the end zone or Shepard is open a little short, but with space to run. We didn't have too many plays like that last year.
Come on Snacks  
montanagiant : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
You need to get stouter in the middle there
Jags OL is starting to dominate  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
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I don’t like this substitutions there  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
Snacks needs to be in there right now
RE: Run D  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14066163 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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Needs to be better. To many tackles of Fornette by DBs

Yep. They're going to keep doing it if they can rip off 4-5 every run.
Shit  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:42 pm : link
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how the hell was that not a hold on JAX  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:42 pm : link
on giants right end there?
No pressure at all  
EricJ : 9/9/2018 1:42 pm : link
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He has a lot  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:43 pm : link
of time back there.
RE: I can't help but wonder if OBJ  
bumpsinthenight : 9/9/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14066160 USAF NYG Fan said:
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had an option to pass there. Maybe even designed that way but everyone looked covered so OBJ took the safer route and went down.


I thought it set up as an option play
How was that not holding  
NYDCBlue : 9/9/2018 1:43 pm : link
Someone was tackled.

I think Wynn.....
Fournette seems like a really  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:44 pm : link
unpleasant assignment to tackle.
Where are the LBers in stopping the run?  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:44 pm : link
They getting caught up on blocks?
They're going to  
rebel yell : 9/9/2018 1:45 pm : link
wear our D down fast with these long drives
Barwin miss assignment?  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:46 pm : link
Defense just miscommunication on that
BJ Goodson  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:46 pm : link
looks like he's running with a full diaper on
LB just let the TE  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:46 pm : link
stroll out into the flat,

Aside from three plays (the sack, the pick and the Apple PD) this defense looks just awful.
Their  
AcidTest : 9/9/2018 1:46 pm : link
huge OL is controlling the LOS, which is impressive considering that our DL is so stout. Fournette is a punishing runner.
RE: RE: I can't help but wonder if OBJ  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14066174 bumpsinthenight said:
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In comment 14066160 USAF NYG Fan said:


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had an option to pass there. Maybe even designed that way but everyone looked covered so OBJ took the safer route and went down.



I thought it set up as an option play
It looked like there may have been an option there. But, if there wasn't, it sets up the possibility for it later.
This is death by a thousand cuts.  
bumpsinthenight : 9/9/2018 1:47 pm : link
Have to hold in the red zone. Bend and don’t break
Wynn with a nice play  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:47 pm : link
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Ogletree beat again!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:47 pm : link
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So, we still have no consistent pass rush  
Matt M. : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
and can't cover RBs or TEs. Jeez, this is painful.
Jacksonville has really turned it around  
nicky43 : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
They have it all now. I'd say their biggest weakness is Bortles as he can be inconsistent and sometimes make stupid plays. He is the best they have at QB though.


how was that not a holding call?  
Thunderstruck27 : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
obvious...but they call on flowers
got very lucky there  
micky : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
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Thought the defense  
Rflairr : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
Would blitz Bortles more than this. The new DC is on his heels right now
Holy crap!  
Simms11 : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
Bottles too much time!
Oh baby  
jeff57 : 9/9/2018 1:48 pm : link
Almost both ways
oh damn  
jpkmets : 9/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
almost a pick, then almost a 6.

so glad he didn't the handle on the deflection
Fuck  
Bluesbreaker : 9/9/2018 1:49 pm : link
we still caught a break
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