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For a guy billed as a "weapon" they only used him as an RB

David B. : 9/10/2018 4:52 pm
This I couldn't understand. Barkley had only TWO passes thrown his way yesterday -- ONE SCREEN that got 18 yards, and another pass I don't even remember cause it only went for 4.

I thought the whole point was to get him a lot touches as a receiver -- where he'd be a human mismatch against most LBs,(maybe not JAXs).

But instead of getting him the ball in space, they ran him 18 times into the teeth of that JAX DL -- the biggest strength of that D -- all day long like any bell cow RB who doesn't have receiving skills. No wonder he got stuffed early on. It's a testament to him and the blockers that he broke the long one.

I don't mind him getting carries, but we've been hearing all along about how they can split him out wide. Ok, maybe not against JAX, but there were also no wheel routes, no check-down dump off routes that might have helped Eli given the rush in his face, and only the one screen. I realize it's hard to run screens against that D. But I thought they'd try to get him to the second level so he could be an outlet.

Not sure what they're waiting for. And it didn't look like it was because he was staying in there to protect. He actually wasn't doing a lot of that that I saw.

If you read Shurmer's comments today  
BillT : 9/10/2018 4:56 pm : link
They tried some other things but they didn't work out.
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26.2 : 9/10/2018 4:57 pm : link
Its possible that they had to audible out of any designed plays for that to happen. That defense was nasty yesterday. We might not see a better one all season.
Gotta just wait and see how the season progresses  
UConn4523 : 9/10/2018 4:57 pm : link
new staff, new player, same shitty right side of the OL, facing the leagues top D. Maybe they wanted to and Eli checked out, who knows.

One things for sure, if this was McAdoo he wouldn’t have changed a damn thing week to week. I don’t believe that will be a problem moving forward.
The guy broke a 70 yard TD run in his first game of his career  
Leg of Theismann : 9/10/2018 5:04 pm : link
His first carry in the preseason went for 39 yards.

He's known as a home run hitter and that's what he's proven he can do in the NFL in a very short time span, hit home runs. I trust they are already using this guy correctly and I'm sure we'll see more creativity as the season goes on.

Let's focus on other things that are actual problems.
They played one game.  
BigBlue2112 : 9/10/2018 5:07 pm : link
It was against the league's top defense.
RE: The guy broke a 70 yard TD run in his first game of his career  
BigBlue4You09 : 9/10/2018 5:07 pm : link
In comment 14070064 Leg of Theismann said:
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His first carry in the preseason went for 39 yards.

He's known as a home run hitter and that's what he's proven he can do in the NFL in a very short time span, hit home runs. I trust they are already using this guy correctly and I'm sure we'll see more creativity as the season goes on.

Let's focus on other things that are actual problems.


Bingo, let this guy do what he’s best at even behind a shitty line. He will only get better and will get his fair share of swing passes, screens, etc. when the time is right. Only so much you can do with a terrible line
Shurmur said they wanted to get him on some wheel routes but  
Blue21 : 9/10/2018 5:08 pm : link
defense wasn't open for it which is why OBJ had so many
passes thrown his way. As he said next game OBJ may be shut down and he'll have less opportunities. Defense does dictate where some of the plays are gonna go.
If the defense was protecting  
section125 : 9/10/2018 5:34 pm : link
against Barkley getting thrown too, that means a LB, a CB and A safety were likely being used or a combination of those three players. Means a couple other players were not covered properly...
Eh...  
trueblueinpw : 9/10/2018 5:36 pm : link
Had a similar thought but, as others have pointed out, it’s too soon to judge, it was a heck of a D. Having said that, I don’t think the offensive gameplan was particularly good. The Giants have seems so unimaginative on offense for as long as I can remember. It didn’t work every time, but at least they tried to get OBJ the ball on some plays other than McAd’ohs 5 hard slant.

Let’s wait and see...
RE: They played one game.  
Leg of Theismann : 9/10/2018 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14070068 BigBlue2112 said:
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It was against the league's top defense.


Seriously!

Everyone was wondering how Beckham would look post-injury and post-contract. Oh just 11 catches for over 100 yards.

Everyone was wondering if Barkley was worth the #2 overall pick, would his skills translate to the NFL. Oh he just broke a 70 yd TD game in his very first NFL game.

Everyone wondering does Eli still have it? Well he threw some great passes yesterday, hasn't lost an ounce of zip on his fastball, and almost led a game-winning drive if not for a Shepard drop at a critical time and a missed DPI call.

ALL AGAINST ONE OF THE TOP DEFENSES IN THE LEAGUE.

Cheer up, people.
TD run*  
Leg of Theismann : 9/10/2018 5:55 pm : link
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Barkley had 6 targets yesterday (3rd most behind OBJ + Shepard)  
Eric on Li : 9/10/2018 6:00 pm : link
on top of his 18 carries.

39 / 59 plays were directed at either him or Beckham.

Not sure how much more anyone could expect for a guy in his first pro game in terms of usage.
Thought they utilized him fine  
Jimmy Googs : 9/10/2018 6:03 pm : link
SB would get a hell of a lot more chances if Engram and Shepard would hold onto the god damn ball and convert first downs...
Barkley was awesome  
giantstock : 9/10/2018 6:29 pm : link
The OL got wiped out yet Barkley still managed to look good in his 1st game. The guy's a stud.
Can only imagine  
Doomster : 9/10/2018 10:03 pm : link
what this guy would do with an OL in front of him.....

The OL and TE's all sucked run blocking, especially EE..Ellison's blocking ability is greatly exaggerated.....
Seemed like Jax played a lot cover 3 type zones  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/11/2018 6:50 am : link
Which takes away wheel and flats, and accounted for OBJ getting a lot of fairly open short/intermediate catches. SS got a decent amount, but strange stonehands Engram didn't have more catches.
RE: RE: They played one game.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/11/2018 12:31 pm : link
In comment 14070122 Leg of Theismann said:
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In comment 14070068 BigBlue2112 said:


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It was against the league's top defense.



Seriously!

Everyone was wondering how Beckham would look post-injury and post-contract. Oh just 11 catches for over 100 yards.

Everyone was wondering if Barkley was worth the #2 overall pick, would his skills translate to the NFL. Oh he just broke a 70 yd TD game in his very first NFL game.

Everyone wondering does Eli still have it? Well he threw some great passes yesterday, hasn't lost an ounce of zip on his fastball, and almost led a game-winning drive if not for a Shepard drop at a critical time and a missed DPI call.

ALL AGAINST ONE OF THE TOP DEFENSES IN THE LEAGUE.

Cheer up, people.


The only thing that's proven in any of this is Beckham being healthy. And id the pass to Shepard was better he likely would have caught it. But ultimately this post seems to be just about pom poms so who cares.
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