1. Bortles bootleg from inside the 5 that went for almost 50 yards
I believe that was third down
2. Eli having to use a time out to open the third quarter
Really could’ve used that time out on Jax last drive
Not sure if this has already been discussed in another thread
Or even taken the five yards if he had to.
It doesn't seem to matter who the coach is...TC, BM or now Shurmur. The Giants (Eli?) seem to have one of these moments almost every game.
I was just making a point that these two plays I mentioned haven’t really been discussed
Flowers and the INT have been discussed plenty
The plays that hurt the giants were the non-conversions for first downs when there were makable plays to be made. Shepard drop on 1st down. Barkley not extending the football when Shurmur went for it on 4th down. Engram drops. Bad throw and non call DPI on 4th down (close call but could have gone either way).
Yes it would have been great to hit some big plays downfield, but to be a good offense you need to consistently convert first downs with the easy plays - especially in those conditions against a great D. This offense has more talent than to just hit a few big plays to Barkley/OBJ a couple times a game. If they clean up the sloppy mistakes they should be very tough to get off the field.
What bothers me most about that play was that Engram and not Ellison was the man blocking Campbell.
The plays that hurt the giants were the non-conversions for first downs when there were makable plays to be made. Shepard drop on 1st down. Barkley not extending the football when Shurmur went for it on 4th down. Engram drops. Bad throw and non call DPI on 4th down (close call but could have gone either way).
When you are as offensively challenged as the Giants, field position is huge! The percentages of a long drive this team as of now is pretty low, anytime they can shorten the field it is going to improve their chance of scoring considerably,
Yes it would have been great to hit some big plays downfield, but to be a good offense you need to consistently convert first downs with the easy plays - especially in those conditions against a great D. This offense has more talent than to just hit a few big plays to Barkley/OBJ a couple times a game. If they clean up the sloppy mistakes they should be very tough to get off the field.
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The plays that hurt the giants were the non-conversions for first downs when there were makable plays to be made. Shepard drop on 1st down. Barkley not extending the football when Shurmur went for it on 4th down. Engram drops. Bad throw and non call DPI on 4th down (close call but could have gone either way).
The Giants got the ball back but it was a major change in field position
Yes it would have been great to hit some big plays downfield, but to be a good offense you need to consistently convert first downs with the easy plays - especially in those conditions against a great D. This offense has more talent than to just hit a few big plays to Barkley/OBJ a couple times a game. If they clean up the sloppy mistakes they should be very tough to get off the field.
Teams do this, and not just teams with Cam Newton-like qb's. Fitzgerald ran several yesterday.
Players always need to be ready for this
Not to be difficult but the returner did fumble it ... so it really didn't matter. Jags run out the clock either way. Right?
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We would have had a minute and twenty seconds left when our punt returner fumbled rather than :50?
Not to be difficult but the returner did fumble it ... so it really didn't matter. Jags run out the clock either way. Right?
Nevermind. I missed the second question mark. I agree.
Sorry.
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We would have had a minute and twenty seconds left when our punt returner fumbled rather than :50?
Not to be difficult but the returner did fumble it ... so it really didn't matter. Jags run out the clock either way. Right?
That's what I was saying. In response to the op's 2nd point.
Attention to detail wins and loses games. To me, blowing a timeout there is a failure of both Eli and the offensive coaching staff.
Attention to detail.
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It cost us 7 points.
I was just making a point that these two plays I mentioned haven’t really been discussed
Flowers and the INT have been discussed plenty
No pick-6 no Barkley TD run.