He looks really good and composed tonight. If I'm wrong about him, I'll admit it, but it's still only one game. I still would rather have Saquon over Darnold and as of today, September 10, 2018, I think Justin Herbert of Oregon may be the better prospect than any guy from this year.
He looks really good and composed tonight. If I'm wrong about him, I'll admit it, but it's still only one game. I still would rather have Saquon over Darnold and as of today, September 10, 2018, I think Justin Herbert of Oregon may be the better prospect than any guy from this year.
I like Herbert also but maybe wait for 2020
Who do you like in 2020? Just curious.
Because I love Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields but they won't be able until 2021.
right now. Lions getting lit up and, frankly, look very sloppy.
Many Lions fans were convinced the team made a mistake with Patricia based on their PRESEASON performance. This aint helping him...not a bit. Could get very ugly in Motown this year.
But Giants are in the position they were in Ike once in a decade. And when it comes to QBs even the difference between picking 2nd and 5th can be huge.
So you trade up if you have a conviction if one of these guys is a franchise QB. Jets did this March.
Why is this so hard to fathom?
Um, 1. We may not be picking that high and hopefully ont 2. A guy may not be there or the team may not be willing to trade and 3. Trades are costly.
He can move and throw with accuracy. Love Eli. Love Barkley but passing on Darnold may have been a mistake.
I will always be convinced that the Giants tried to look for any flaw in the quarterbacks to justify keeping Eli, thus hampering their evaluation from the start.
That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
He’s the George Costanza of NY sports media. Always go with the opposite:
Webb is the next guy
No QB will start as a rookie
NYG will upset the Jags
Me and my friend refer to him as Cokehead Paul because he always has this manic energy when he interviews players on the field like he just snorted a long line
But Giants are in the position they were in Ike once in a decade. And when it comes to QBs even the difference between picking 2nd and 5th can be huge.
So you trade up if you have a conviction if one of these guys is a franchise QB. Jets did this March.
Why is this so hard to fathom?
Um, 1. We may not be picking that high and hopefully ont 2. A guy may not be there or the team may not be willing to trade and 3. Trades are costly.
Yes trades can be costly but as we have seen from Eli, Wentz, Goff, Watson, Mahomes, etc it is worth it.
He looks really good and composed tonight. If I'm wrong about him, I'll admit it, but it's still only one game. I still would rather have Saquon over Darnold and as of today, September 10, 2018, I think Justin Herbert of Oregon may be the better prospect than any guy from this year.
I like Herbert also but maybe wait for 2020
Who do you like in 2020? Just curious.
Because I love Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields but they won't be able until 2021.
I was really impressed by Kellen Mond of Texas A&M vs Clemson saturday night, and he wasnt even on my radar prior to the season. Thought he really looked good, arm looked great.
Eli actually played well yesterday but it was another classic example of how we need a perfect o-line for him to play. We won’t know if Darnold will be a stud for a while but we just mortgaged our long-term future for Eli. I thought it was crazy then and this is not helping. Lol.
You mind telling me last time we had a guy who could take it for 70 on any carry?
You don’t pick a RB in the first round. They don’t win games for you single handed. QB’s do. You can keep all those occasional 70 yard runs. Means little in most games.
Both of their lines looks horrific (and even Flowers had no issue with the Jets DL), they're turning the ball over seemingly every other possession, and their defense is getting no push whatsoever. Darnold has all day to throw and their backs are averaging 5.8 and 5.3 ypc. No better evidenced by that deep ball to Anderson where the Lions defender was right there, could've easily picked it off and let it go right through his hands.
That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
Because they wanted to get Eli a weapon like Barkley, fine. I didn't agree but I understand
But if you were rationalizing the pick by believing none of the quarterbacks were worth the second pick, I thought you were wrong then and stated so several times.
He does, but from a personal standpoint I don't like taking southpaws. Not that there's anything wrong with them, but I swear, each ball thrown by a lefty looks so weakly thrown. It would scare the hell out of me every time. Haha
Because they wanted to get Eli a weapon like Barkley, fine. I didn't agree but I understand
But if you were rationalizing the pick by believing none of the quarterbacks were worth the second pick, I thought you were wrong then and stated so several times.
Still think you were wrong.
for me the talent was to big to pass up..
you have to generational talents to help eli and in place for when you do transition to a new qb
Because they wanted to get Eli a weapon like Barkley, fine. I didn't agree but I understand
But if you were rationalizing the pick by believing none of the quarterbacks were worth the second pick, I thought you were wrong then and stated so several times.
Still think you were wrong.
I'm in the second category. I wasn't convinced with any of the guys and I thought Baker Mayfield was the best of the bunch. I still think Baker will have the best career of all the QBs.
He looks really good and composed tonight. If I'm wrong about him, I'll admit it, but it's still only one game. I still would rather have Saquon over Darnold and as of today, September 10, 2018, I think Justin Herbert of Oregon may be the better prospect than any guy from this year.
I like Herbert also but maybe wait for 2020
Who do you like in 2020? Just curious.
Because I love Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields but they won't be able until 2021.
I was really impressed by Kellen Mond of Texas A&M vs Clemson saturday night, and he wasnt even on my radar prior to the season. Thought he really looked good, arm looked great.
If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
These guys won't be available until 2021 at the earliest.
Thriving behind this Oline the Giants currently have. No Oline, no running back, what rookie QB could thrive in such a situation? Darnold would struggle. He is playing well, but he is also getting terrific support from his team and a nightmarish performance from Stafford
That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
These guys won't be available until 2021 at the earliest.
If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
Why not a rookie? Rooks have shown to step in and play..not never had
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That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
These guys won't be available until 2021 at the earliest.
If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
I agree. I think that’s the plan too.
it can backfire, just like drafting a guy however...
And a few teams...namely one local
I like Herbert also but maybe wait for 2020
He’s the George Costanza of NY sports media. Always go with the opposite:
Webb is the next guy
No QB will start as a rookie
NYG will upset the Jags
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He looks really good and composed tonight. If I'm wrong about him, I'll admit it, but it's still only one game. I still would rather have Saquon over Darnold and as of today, September 10, 2018, I think Justin Herbert of Oregon may be the better prospect than any guy from this year.
I like Herbert also but maybe wait for 2020
Who do you like in 2020? Just curious.
Because I love Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields but they won't be able until 2021.
Many Lions fans were convinced the team made a mistake with Patricia based on their PRESEASON performance. This aint helping him...not a bit. Could get very ugly in Motown this year.
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But Giants are in the position they were in Ike once in a decade. And when it comes to QBs even the difference between picking 2nd and 5th can be huge.
So you trade up if you have a conviction if one of these guys is a franchise QB. Jets did this March.
Why is this so hard to fathom?
He can move and throw with accuracy. Love Eli. Love Barkley but passing on Darnold may have been a mistake.
I will always be convinced that the Giants tried to look for any flaw in the quarterbacks to justify keeping Eli, thus hampering their evaluation from the start.
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He’s the George Costanza of NY sports media. Always go with the opposite:
Webb is the next guy
No QB will start as a rookie
NYG will upset the Jags
Me and my friend refer to him as Cokehead Paul because he always has this manic energy when he interviews players on the field like he just snorted a long line
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But Giants are in the position they were in Ike once in a decade. And when it comes to QBs even the difference between picking 2nd and 5th can be huge.
So you trade up if you have a conviction if one of these guys is a franchise QB. Jets did this March.
Why is this so hard to fathom?
Um, 1. We may not be picking that high and hopefully ont 2. A guy may not be there or the team may not be willing to trade and 3. Trades are costly.
Yes trades can be costly but as we have seen from Eli, Wentz, Goff, Watson, Mahomes, etc it is worth it.
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He looks really good and composed tonight. If I'm wrong about him, I'll admit it, but it's still only one game. I still would rather have Saquon over Darnold and as of today, September 10, 2018, I think Justin Herbert of Oregon may be the better prospect than any guy from this year.
I like Herbert also but maybe wait for 2020
Who do you like in 2020? Just curious.
Because I love Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields but they won't be able until 2021.
I was really impressed by Kellen Mond of Texas A&M vs Clemson saturday night, and he wasnt even on my radar prior to the season. Thought he really looked good, arm looked great.
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We needed a QB not a RB.
Didn't need a RB?
You mind telling me last time we had a guy who could take it for 70 on any carry?
You don’t pick a RB in the first round. They don’t win games for you single handed. QB’s do. You can keep all those occasional 70 yard runs. Means little in most games.
So gotten to.
The stupid TV networks shouldn't be showing that flaming asshole.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
But if you were rationalizing the pick by believing none of the quarterbacks were worth the second pick, I thought you were wrong then and stated so several times.
Still think you were wrong.
What a disaster for the Lions.
He does, but from a personal standpoint I don't like taking southpaws. Not that there's anything wrong with them, but I swear, each ball thrown by a lefty looks so weakly thrown. It would scare the hell out of me every time. Haha
But if you were rationalizing the pick by believing none of the quarterbacks were worth the second pick, I thought you were wrong then and stated so several times.
Still think you were wrong.
for me the talent was to big to pass up..
you have to generational talents to help eli and in place for when you do transition to a new qb
But if you were rationalizing the pick by believing none of the quarterbacks were worth the second pick, I thought you were wrong then and stated so several times.
Still think you were wrong.
I'm in the second category. I wasn't convinced with any of the guys and I thought Baker Mayfield was the best of the bunch. I still think Baker will have the best career of all the QBs.
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He looks really good and composed tonight. If I'm wrong about him, I'll admit it, but it's still only one game. I still would rather have Saquon over Darnold and as of today, September 10, 2018, I think Justin Herbert of Oregon may be the better prospect than any guy from this year.
I like Herbert also but maybe wait for 2020
Who do you like in 2020? Just curious.
Because I love Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields but they won't be able until 2021.
I was really impressed by Kellen Mond of Texas A&M vs Clemson saturday night, and he wasnt even on my radar prior to the season. Thought he really looked good, arm looked great.
Yeah, I hadn't heard of him until recently too
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That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
These guys won't be available until 2021 at the earliest.
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That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
These guys won't be available until 2021 at the earliest.
Right. I said that above...
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
Patricia is a trainwreck. The guy is in way over his head and he is not good with people.
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If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
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If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
Why not a rookie? Rooks have shown to step in and play..not never had
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That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
These guys won't be available until 2021 at the earliest.
Right. I said that above...
sorry...someone in the thread said 2020
Detroit is making them look like super bowl contenders.
I think it's more about how bad Detroit is
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If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
I agree. I think that’s the plan too.
it can backfire, just like drafting a guy however...