If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
Why not a rookie? Rooks have shown to step in and play..not never had
i never said they havnt or they cant, i jjst think going off of gettlemans moves he is going to want a vet...
That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
These guys won't be available until 2021 at the earliest.
So you Nostradamus’ plan on having 0 to 3 wins in 2020 to secure the picks? Or how do you plan on forcing a team to trade to you?
Because if these guys are as obviously as good as you say then they are going very high.
Eli actually played well yesterday but it was another classic example of how we need a perfect o-line for him to play. We won’t know if Darnold will be a stud for a while but we just mortgaged our long-term future for Eli. I thought it was crazy then and this is not helping. Lol.
A perfect O-line? The O-line as it stands might not even be in the top 30 in the NFL.
Eli is going to be our QB next season too & possibly 2020. But when '21 comes around, I'm all in for Fields. I've fallen in love via YouTube clips, Haha.
If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
The league has changed teams don't have to wait long for QB's to develop. Case in point Wentz, Watson, and Goff last season. Mahomes looks like he is breaking out this season.
That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
These guys won't be available until 2021 at the earliest.
So you Nostradamus’ plan on having 0 to 3 wins in 2020 to secure the picks? Or how do you plan on forcing a team to trade to you?
Because if these guys are as obviously as good as you say then they are going very high.
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Shit, look what the Eagles did to get Carsons Wentz...
If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
The league has changed teams don't have to wait long for QB's to develop. Case in point Wentz, Watson, and Goff last season. Mahomes looks like he is breaking out this season.
i agree 100 percent, i never said rookies can not come in and play right away, i am just thinking what the giants might want...
who knows maybe giants have another horrible year and draft a guy this yesr who knows...
my opinion they felt barkley was to good to pass up
Thriving behind this Oline the Giants currently have. No Oline, no running back, what rookie QB could thrive in such a situation? Darnold would struggle. He is playing well, but he is also getting terrific support from his team and a nightmarish performance from Stafford
It is likely the team would have been reconfigured differently.
Perhaps they don't make the specific o-line moves they made. So I can't look at it all in that vacuum of "stick him with this o-line."
But everyone with the Giants wanted immediacy and didn't want to play the long game.
Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
True, and BTW, it may have very well been possible that the Giants weren't high on Darnold. It was reported that Shurmur wanted Josh Allen. Not sure about DG, but I'd rather have a Saquon vs. Darnold debate over a Josh Allen (or any QB) vs. Darnold debate.
The Lions looked awful in the preseason too. Looks like Patricia is another in a long line of Belichick coordinators who stink as HCs.
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If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
Why not a rookie? Rooks have shown to step in and play..not never had
i never said they havnt or they cant, i jjst think going off of gettlemans moves he is going to want a vet...
just my opinion
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That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
These guys won't be available until 2021 at the earliest.
So you Nostradamus’ plan on having 0 to 3 wins in 2020 to secure the picks? Or how do you plan on forcing a team to trade to you?
Because if these guys are as obviously as good as you say then they are going very high.
A perfect O-line? The O-line as it stands might not even be in the top 30 in the NFL.
That'll come with time. He's going to get bigger and stronger and then look out.
But he needs to lose the Aniston haircut
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If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
The league has changed teams don't have to wait long for QB's to develop. Case in point Wentz, Watson, and Goff last season. Mahomes looks like he is breaking out this season.
What a debacle
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That is the dude we should concentrate on for the post Eli era. He's going to be a f*cking star. My good buddy, a UGA fan, practically drools when talking about him.
I've been drooling about him and Lawrence since last year (senior year of HS). I've heard evaluators say that Lawrence could sling it in the NFL RIGHT NOW. That's unheard of.
Those two are the best QB prospects we've seen in a long time. Possibly since Andrew Luck.
These guys won't be available until 2021 at the earliest.
So you Nostradamus’ plan on having 0 to 3 wins in 2020 to secure the picks? Or how do you plan on forcing a team to trade to you?
Because if these guys are as obviously as good as you say then they are going very high.
We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Shit, look what the Eagles did to get Carsons Wentz...
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If the right guy is in the draft and if you are in striking distance to make a deal and if you can convince the team to trade you the pick. That’s a lot of ifs for the future, then if you are lucky you pay the price in picks to make the deal so increasing the risks if you pick the wrong guy. It takes a lot of luck for all that to fall into place.
i think giants will go a veteran route like the vikings did with cousins...
with barkley and beckham, you are not going to wait for a rookie
The league has changed teams don't have to wait long for QB's to develop. Case in point Wentz, Watson, and Goff last season. Mahomes looks like he is breaking out this season.
i agree 100 percent, i never said rookies can not come in and play right away, i am just thinking what the giants might want...
who knows maybe giants have another horrible year and draft a guy this yesr who knows...
my opinion they felt barkley was to good to pass up
It is likely the team would have been reconfigured differently.
Perhaps they don't make the specific o-line moves they made. So I can't look at it all in that vacuum of "stick him with this o-line."
But everyone with the Giants wanted immediacy and didn't want to play the long game.
We will see what will win out.
True, and BTW, it may have very well been possible that the Giants weren't high on Darnold. It was reported that Shurmur wanted Josh Allen. Not sure about DG, but I'd rather have a Saquon vs. Darnold debate over a Josh Allen (or any QB) vs. Darnold debate.
Giants nation crashing based on Darnold yet?
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
i agree 100 percent, i never said rookies can not come in and play right away, i am just thinking what the giants might want...
who knows maybe giants have another horrible year and draft a guy this yesr who knows...
my opinion they felt barkley was to good to pass up
The Giants obviously felt the same way.
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Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
They've quit
Or they're catatonic
Nick Bosa
I think he will be another in a long line of shitty headcoaches from the BB tree. He seems in over his head.
Shit th hat was good one
Are you watching this Jets game?
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