Everyone talking about how brilliant he is. Um, is there an easier job in the NFL than being Hoodie’s d-co? Fucking 1st game of his career and Darnold is carving up the rocket scientists defense.
Is it fair to wonder if former Pats assistants aren’t nearly as impressive when they no longer have access to whatever information the Pats are continuously cheating to access?
Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
But it was obvious when it was happening that both Prescott and Sanchez were bus drivers. Neither one showed out as a gifted passer, because they aren't. Dak had the best offensive line in football and a top 2 RB. Sanchez had a great defense and an offense built around rushing.
At least we are not Lions, Bills or Browns fans! You can see the pain in these fan shots. Some of those older guys probably been rooting for this team their entire lives and havent seen a championship. Imagine the Giants if they never improved in the 80's.....no LT, no Simms, no Parcells, no Manning, etc.. no championships......ugh. We may not get to celebrate every year....but at least we do get to celebrate every now and then!
who knows maybe giants have another horrible year and draft a guy this yesr who knows...
my opinion they felt barkley was to good to pass up
I have a different opinion as to how we ended up draftng Barkley.
1. The Giants really needed a player that could come right in and help improve this 3 win team NOW. Drafting a QB would not pay dividends for a couple of years.
2. The organization got freaked out when they saw how the fans all but burned the stadium down when Eli was benched. I do not think they wanted the potential to have a split fan base over drafting Eli's replacement NOW.
3. The bust factor is higher with a QB than a RB. Barkley was the safest pick from that perspective.
What I would love to know is who the Giants would have selected if the Browns took Barkley at #1.
who knows maybe giants have another horrible year and draft a guy this yesr who knows...
my opinion they felt barkley was to good to pass up
I have a different opinion as to how we ended up draftng Barkley.
1. The Giants really needed a player that could come right in and help improve this 3 win team NOW. Drafting a QB would not pay dividends for a couple of years.
2. The organization got freaked out when they saw how the fans all but burned the stadium down when Eli was benched. I do not think they wanted the potential to have a split fan base over drafting Eli's replacement NOW.
3. The bust factor is higher with a QB than a RB. Barkley was the safest pick from that perspective.
What I would love to know is who the Giants would have selected if the Browns took Barkley at #1.
RE: 2. The irony is, if Darnold keeps playing well & NYG starts slow, the backlash from the fans may be even worse this year.
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who knows maybe giants have another horrible year and draft a guy this yesr who knows...
my opinion they felt barkley was to good to pass up
I have a different opinion as to how we ended up draftng Barkley.
1. The Giants really needed a player that could come right in and help improve this 3 win team NOW. Drafting a QB would not pay dividends for a couple of years.
2. The organization got freaked out when they saw how the fans all but burned the stadium down when Eli was benched. I do not think they wanted the potential to have a split fan base over drafting Eli's replacement NOW.
3. The bust factor is higher with a QB than a RB. Barkley was the safest pick from that perspective.
What I would love to know is who the Giants would have selected if the Browns took Barkley at #1.
Chubb
Still not a qb because none in "their" opinion a "franchise qb"
The last two QB's to have their first pass INT retuned for a TD were Jameis Winston and Bret Favre. How could it not be Bret Favre.
Secondly the are people who have enough power in the Giants organization to choose a RB over this QB. How is that even possible in 2018? If Darnold stays healthy they are going to regret it for a very long time.
Just another chapter in the Mara's picking players legend. Craig Morton for Randy White has been the Mara fuck up gold standard for over 40 years. It may have competition on it's 50th anniversary. Time will tell.
there is something going on with that team. It may be the he head coach but on the INT, it was noticeable how little intensity the o- lineman had in trying to tackle.
Barkley looked great- I am very happy with that pick Â
I thought he said he wasn’t gonna be Jets fan after he was roughed up at a game?
He is safe going to Detroit for a Jets game. The bad Lions fans are too busy burning each others crack houses down. It is not like Oakland when the fans were showing up with guns and other weapons to the stadium.
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Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
But it was obvious when it was happening that both Prescott and Sanchez were bus drivers. Neither one showed out as a gifted passer, because they aren't. Dak had the best offensive line in football and a top 2 RB. Sanchez had a great defense and an offense built around rushing.
Hindsight is 20/20. No one in the media was saying that at the time. Sanchez it started after the honeymoon period but during his first season he was “The Sanchize” and the second coming. He won his first 3 starts and they sent his shoes to the HOF. It wasn’t apparent that he stunk to many until later on.
Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
But it was obvious when it was happening that both Prescott and Sanchez were bus drivers. Neither one showed out as a gifted passer, because they aren't. Dak had the best offensive line in football and a top 2 RB. Sanchez had a great defense and an offense built around rushing.
Hindsight is 20/20. No one in the media was saying that at the time. Sanchez it started after the honeymoon period but during his first season he was “The Sanchize” and the second coming. He won his first 3 starts and they sent his shoes to the HOF. It wasn’t apparent that he stunk to many until later on.
That's the thing though...I don't think Sanchez was that bad, at least at first. I always thought he was like the Jets version of Dave Brown because he started off well and then got zero help on offense and by his coach as the years went by and the losses piled up
That's the thing though...I don't think Sanchez was that bad, at least at first. I always thought he was like the Jets version of Dave Brown because he started off well and then got zero help on offense and by his coach as the years went by and the losses piled up
He wasn't bad at all. The team decided to go in a direction where they decided to get "weapons" and become more of a passing team (Holmes, Plaxico, etc) as opposed to sticking with the plan that made them successful the first two years.
Remember the 2011 game (Cruz 99 yard TD)? Sanchez threw the ball I believe 63 times. Sixty f'n three.
It's a trap some teams get caught up in where they decide to build the team around the QB as opposed to just building the right team. The thing then snowballed.
on the road and blew another team out by 30 points! I’m sure this JETs team is not a Juggernaut and perhaps Detroit is just a really bad team this year. I think the answer lies somewhere in between.
Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
But it was obvious when it was happening that both Prescott and Sanchez were bus drivers. Neither one showed out as a gifted passer, because they aren't. Dak had the best offensive line in football and a top 2 RB. Sanchez had a great defense and an offense built around rushing.
Hindsight is 20/20. No one in the media was saying that at the time. Sanchez it started after the honeymoon period but during his first season he was “The Sanchize” and the second coming. He won his first 3 starts and they sent his shoes to the HOF. It wasn’t apparent that he stunk to many until later on.
What the media, especially junk like the post back page, said isn’t relevant. Nobody judges players on whether the local newspaper gives him a nickname. I’m talking about recognition in the sport itself. Mark Sanchez was never regarded as a special player by his peers or other coaches. Dak Prescott won an award as a rookie and even that was disputed that Elliot should have rightly won rookie of the year. Popularity contests and being recognized for your talent are two different things. Russell Wilson entered the league the same way as Sanchez and Prescott: as a role player on a loaded team. It was evident rather early on that Russell Wilson wasn’t simply a bus driving caretaker of the football. The player stood out as exceptional on his own merit.
Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
But it was obvious when it was happening that both Prescott and Sanchez were bus drivers. Neither one showed out as a gifted passer, because they aren't. Dak had the best offensive line in football and a top 2 RB. Sanchez had a great defense and an offense built around rushing.
Hindsight is 20/20. No one in the media was saying that at the time. Sanchez it started after the honeymoon period but during his first season he was “The Sanchize” and the second coming. He won his first 3 starts and they sent his shoes to the HOF. It wasn’t apparent that he stunk to many until later on.
What the media, especially junk like the post back page, said isn’t relevant. Nobody judges players on whether the local newspaper gives him a nickname. I’m talking about recognition in the sport itself. Mark Sanchez was never regarded as a special player by his peers or other coaches. Dak Prescott won an award as a rookie and even that was disputed that Elliot should have rightly won rookie of the year. Popularity contests and being recognized for your talent are two different things. Russell Wilson entered the league the same way as Sanchez and Prescott: as a role player on a loaded team. It was evident rather early on that Russell Wilson wasn’t simply a bus driving caretaker of the football. The player stood out as exceptional on his own merit.
It’s easy to say now just as it’s easy to say that Darnold looked good because he had all day to throw, got 2 defensive TD’s a special teams td and his team ran it down the other team’s throat for two td’s. Oh and his 40 yard td to Anderson should’ve been picked off. The truth is we don’t know yet what he’ll be but with limited tape to go off of, it’s much harder to separate player from team including the opposition. If you’re telling me that you didn’t believe Sanchez during year 1 and Dak during year 1 were strong talents then you were in the minority. There’s a reason the Jets went and got all those pass catchers and changed their offense as another poster mentioned and that Dallas handed the keys over to Dak.
+1
Is it fair to wonder if former Pats assistants aren’t nearly as impressive when they no longer have access to whatever information the Pats are continuously cheating to access?
Against this Lions D...any QB would look good.
Last time the Giants scored more than 48 points in a game, they lost.
#TheStruggle
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Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
But it was obvious when it was happening that both Prescott and Sanchez were bus drivers. Neither one showed out as a gifted passer, because they aren't. Dak had the best offensive line in football and a top 2 RB. Sanchez had a great defense and an offense built around rushing.
Yeah, I noticed that too on a timeout. With that utility belt on, he really looks huge....definitely put on some weight.
He's....rotund
#BulletDodged
who knows maybe giants have another horrible year and draft a guy this yesr who knows...
my opinion they felt barkley was to good to pass up
I have a different opinion as to how we ended up draftng Barkley.
1. The Giants really needed a player that could come right in and help improve this 3 win team NOW. Drafting a QB would not pay dividends for a couple of years.
2. The organization got freaked out when they saw how the fans all but burned the stadium down when Eli was benched. I do not think they wanted the potential to have a split fan base over drafting Eli's replacement NOW.
3. The bust factor is higher with a QB than a RB. Barkley was the safest pick from that perspective.
What I would love to know is who the Giants would have selected if the Browns took Barkley at #1.
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Not sure if it’s been mention but has Matt Patricia gained 100 pounds? He looks horrendous
He's....rotund
In other news, Stafford looks different body wise. Did he drop some poundage???
That was the same guy who declared NYC a Jets town in 2011
LOLOLOLOLOLZ!
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who knows maybe giants have another horrible year and draft a guy this yesr who knows...
my opinion they felt barkley was to good to pass up
I have a different opinion as to how we ended up draftng Barkley.
1. The Giants really needed a player that could come right in and help improve this 3 win team NOW. Drafting a QB would not pay dividends for a couple of years.
2. The organization got freaked out when they saw how the fans all but burned the stadium down when Eli was benched. I do not think they wanted the potential to have a split fan base over drafting Eli's replacement NOW.
3. The bust factor is higher with a QB than a RB. Barkley was the safest pick from that perspective.
What I would love to know is who the Giants would have selected if the Browns took Barkley at #1.
RE: 2. The irony is, if Darnold keeps playing well & NYG starts slow, the backlash from the fans may be even worse this year.
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who knows maybe giants have another horrible year and draft a guy this yesr who knows...
my opinion they felt barkley was to good to pass up
I have a different opinion as to how we ended up draftng Barkley.
1. The Giants really needed a player that could come right in and help improve this 3 win team NOW. Drafting a QB would not pay dividends for a couple of years.
2. The organization got freaked out when they saw how the fans all but burned the stadium down when Eli was benched. I do not think they wanted the potential to have a split fan base over drafting Eli's replacement NOW.
3. The bust factor is higher with a QB than a RB. Barkley was the safest pick from that perspective.
What I would love to know is who the Giants would have selected if the Browns took Barkley at #1.
Chubb
Still not a qb because none in "their" opinion a "franchise qb"
Secondly the are people who have enough power in the Giants organization to choose a RB over this QB. How is that even possible in 2018? If Darnold stays healthy they are going to regret it for a very long time.
Just another chapter in the Mara's picking players legend. Craig Morton for Randy White has been the Mara fuck up gold standard for over 40 years. It may have competition on it's 50th anniversary. Time will tell.
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I thought he said he wasn’t gonna be Jets fan after he was roughed up at a game?
He's a complete fraud.
He is, former Miami Dolphins fan who switched over to the Jets and acted as if he was always a diehard Jets fan.
He is safe going to Detroit for a Jets game. The bad Lions fans are too busy burning each others crack houses down. It is not like Oakland when the fans were showing up with guns and other weapons to the stadium.
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I thought he said he wasn’t gonna be Jets fan after he was roughed up at a game?
He's a complete fraud.
He is, former Miami Dolphins fan who switched over to the Jets and acted as if he was always a diehard Jets fan.
I don't care he's a Jets fan but read story after story of how much of an asshole he is if one were to meet him in the parking lot
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Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
But it was obvious when it was happening that both Prescott and Sanchez were bus drivers. Neither one showed out as a gifted passer, because they aren't. Dak had the best offensive line in football and a top 2 RB. Sanchez had a great defense and an offense built around rushing.
Hindsight is 20/20. No one in the media was saying that at the time. Sanchez it started after the honeymoon period but during his first season he was “The Sanchize” and the second coming. He won his first 3 starts and they sent his shoes to the HOF. It wasn’t apparent that he stunk to many until later on.
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Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
But it was obvious when it was happening that both Prescott and Sanchez were bus drivers. Neither one showed out as a gifted passer, because they aren't. Dak had the best offensive line in football and a top 2 RB. Sanchez had a great defense and an offense built around rushing.
Hindsight is 20/20. No one in the media was saying that at the time. Sanchez it started after the honeymoon period but during his first season he was “The Sanchize” and the second coming. He won his first 3 starts and they sent his shoes to the HOF. It wasn’t apparent that he stunk to many until later on.
That's the thing though...I don't think Sanchez was that bad, at least at first. I always thought he was like the Jets version of Dave Brown because he started off well and then got zero help on offense and by his coach as the years went by and the losses piled up
He wasn't bad at all. The team decided to go in a direction where they decided to get "weapons" and become more of a passing team (Holmes, Plaxico, etc) as opposed to sticking with the plan that made them successful the first two years.
Remember the 2011 game (Cruz 99 yard TD)? Sanchez threw the ball I believe 63 times. Sixty f'n three.
It's a trap some teams get caught up in where they decide to build the team around the QB as opposed to just building the right team. The thing then snowballed.
Typical week one over reaction.
Against this Lions D...any QB would look good.
We played the Lions D last year. How'd we look?
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a run for their money this year.
Typical week one over reaction.
Especially since the Jets started out last year playing pretty darn well as well
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Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
But it was obvious when it was happening that both Prescott and Sanchez were bus drivers. Neither one showed out as a gifted passer, because they aren't. Dak had the best offensive line in football and a top 2 RB. Sanchez had a great defense and an offense built around rushing.
Hindsight is 20/20. No one in the media was saying that at the time. Sanchez it started after the honeymoon period but during his first season he was “The Sanchize” and the second coming. He won his first 3 starts and they sent his shoes to the HOF. It wasn’t apparent that he stunk to many until later on.
What the media, especially junk like the post back page, said isn’t relevant. Nobody judges players on whether the local newspaper gives him a nickname. I’m talking about recognition in the sport itself. Mark Sanchez was never regarded as a special player by his peers or other coaches. Dak Prescott won an award as a rookie and even that was disputed that Elliot should have rightly won rookie of the year. Popularity contests and being recognized for your talent are two different things. Russell Wilson entered the league the same way as Sanchez and Prescott: as a role player on a loaded team. It was evident rather early on that Russell Wilson wasn’t simply a bus driving caretaker of the football. The player stood out as exceptional on his own merit.
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Keep beating the dead horse.
Against this Lions D...any QB would look good.
We played the Lions D last year. How'd we look?
I can answer that - we got schooled at home. ; )
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Debate will be going on for years. And NYG got a good player by all appearances.
yup, who knows what the future holds, everyone thought prescott was a steal..
Also remember how Mark Sanchez was the king of NY after back to back AFC championship game appearances in his first two years.
But it was obvious when it was happening that both Prescott and Sanchez were bus drivers. Neither one showed out as a gifted passer, because they aren't. Dak had the best offensive line in football and a top 2 RB. Sanchez had a great defense and an offense built around rushing.
Hindsight is 20/20. No one in the media was saying that at the time. Sanchez it started after the honeymoon period but during his first season he was “The Sanchize” and the second coming. He won his first 3 starts and they sent his shoes to the HOF. It wasn’t apparent that he stunk to many until later on.
What the media, especially junk like the post back page, said isn’t relevant. Nobody judges players on whether the local newspaper gives him a nickname. I’m talking about recognition in the sport itself. Mark Sanchez was never regarded as a special player by his peers or other coaches. Dak Prescott won an award as a rookie and even that was disputed that Elliot should have rightly won rookie of the year. Popularity contests and being recognized for your talent are two different things. Russell Wilson entered the league the same way as Sanchez and Prescott: as a role player on a loaded team. It was evident rather early on that Russell Wilson wasn’t simply a bus driving caretaker of the football. The player stood out as exceptional on his own merit.
It’s easy to say now just as it’s easy to say that Darnold looked good because he had all day to throw, got 2 defensive TD’s a special teams td and his team ran it down the other team’s throat for two td’s. Oh and his 40 yard td to Anderson should’ve been picked off. The truth is we don’t know yet what he’ll be but with limited tape to go off of, it’s much harder to separate player from team including the opposition. If you’re telling me that you didn’t believe Sanchez during year 1 and Dak during year 1 were strong talents then you were in the minority. There’s a reason the Jets went and got all those pass catchers and changed their offense as another poster mentioned and that Dallas handed the keys over to Dak.
Twice
Well that didn't age well
since...
16/20, 198 yards, 2 touchdowns 48-17 Jets
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Worth the second overall pick for sure...
Well that didn't age well
since...
16/20, 198 yards, 2 touchdowns 48-17 Jets
For a Jets fan, this must be "bust out the champagne" time.
What else do you guys have but occasional good regular season games? Not much else.