I know there have been a million comments/thoughts on Flowers and his performance this past Sunday, but Geoff Schwartz's recent tweet/gif really struck me:
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“Next time I know what type of player I’m against, he’s not really a speed guy, so next time I won’t jump out so fast." Not knowing that Calais Campbell is a “not really a speed guy” is peak IDGAF
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Apparently that is a real quote from Flowers? Basically indicates this dude saw no film, did no prep, and thought he could simply show up the day of and physically outmatch Campbell...
After we drafted him the immediate criticism was that his footwork was off, but something that could be "coached up."
This simply may be a case of a lack of drive and motivation. I'd hope Giants staff/veteran offensive lineman can create a more rigid preparation structure for him, but at this point maybe it's too late?
This is the GIF (click play when it opens) that Schwartz was referencing:
https://twitter.com/FBLRave/status/1039488752832397316 
He tried to trip the guy that beat him clean. I think he's the same person.
The problem can't be that the player just doesn't have the necessary skills, it's just that he's lazy or doesn't care or the coaches are using him wrong, etc.
The problem can't be that the player just doesn't have the necessary skills, it's just that he's lazy or doesn't care or the coaches are using him wrong, etc.
They sound worse, the lazy label wouldn't be tossed around if he was drafted from Rutgers and named Joey Romano.
We all are giant fans Does this guy seem like a “NYG type of player?”
Look at the film from Game 1. How many times did the incompetence of Flowers come into play? If it hadn't been for his poor play we probably score at least another TD on the pass to Beckham where Eli is bum rushed. How many yards did he cost us in penalties, has to be at least 60-70? Then a failed assignment costs us a pick 6.
If nothing else we are better with nothing at RT, at least nothing wouldn't get us negative yardage.
The experiment is over ! Trade for a competent replacement !
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a bunch of parents at a Pop Warner game.
The problem can't be that the player just doesn't have the necessary skills, it's just that he's lazy or doesn't care or the coaches are using him wrong, etc.
They sound worse, the lazy label wouldn't be tossed around if he was drafted from Rutgers and named Joey Romano.
Yep, obviously, it's because he's black. What else could it be?
Even if a trade doesnt occur there are guys on the street who are better than Flowers. Jhari Eans & Luke Joekel are out there somewhere, at least bring them in for work outs.
Flowers doesn't learn, there is no way to fix that issue no matter how big&strong you are.
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it's personal. Not sure why but basically it's to the point where you need to discount anything he says on the guy. Bad look for someone who obviously is looking for an analyst gig. And just because a player looks bad doesn't mean he's lazy or stupid. He might just not be good enough.
Flowers is awful but atleast he suits up...something Schwartz failed to do. Schwartz pretty much stole from the Giants. The guy is a loudmouth clown. Soft as tissue paper.
This. As much as I rag on Flowers, because he's a horrific player, he's given the Giants more than Schwartz ever did.
The weird thing is his hurt rookie year was his best year - he actually looked like a NFL player. Nothing special, but I'd take that Flowers over this one.
Cutler had ability...Flowers not so much...
From what I have gathered, his preparation is not the issue. Its just when the bullets are flying it all goes out the window.
This seems far more likely to me. I think that it is probably more likely that Flowers struggled to answer questions on the fly than it is that the coaching staff did not have him prepared.
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I would rather have a struggling Wheeler than Flowers. At least I know Wheeler will play hard every play and give it his all.
I get it with his play and all and the huge lapses of competency, but he is a human being. These guys aren't commodities where basic human dignity doesn't apply.
A bag of stinking hot garbage?
Yes, it's a bad quote, and is revealing of a lack of prep. But players shouldn't be referred to this way
This is from a football player perspective not. It has nothing to do with him as a person.
Flowers has been awful, but it's likely not due to his preparation or work ethic. He's on a new set of coaches, and they've praised his work ethic, when they could just as easily use it to disclaim his difficulties and make life easier on themselves. Besides, something basic like that would be just as much on the OL coach as it would be on Flowers, and I doubt they'd make such a huge error.
He stinks, but it's likely not related to how hard he works at it.
The experiment is over ! Trade for a competent replacement !
Yeah, because there are teams out there that are eagerly awaiting a call from somebody so they can trade their starting RT. Starting caliber RTs are everywhere. Just go get one.
close to ejections imo
Tuck was badly injured and that face mask to me is about
as dirty as it gets . I was friggen irate gonna break the
guys neck because he is by you fuck that ass hole .
Flowers is on thin ice period ..
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Flowers incompetence severely limits what the offense can do.
The experiment is over ! Trade for a competent replacement !
Yeah, because there are teams out there that are eagerly awaiting a call from somebody so they can trade their starting RT. Starting caliber RTs are everywhere. Just go get one.
We don't need their starting RT. We need a player that is aspiring to be a starting RT. Because that is an upgrade to what we have now.
Not that Richburg is anything special... Just sayin', it's not like this hasn't been suggested before by insiders.
Not that Richburg is anything special... Just sayin', it's not like this hasn't been suggested before by insiders.
I don't think so. Rich burg made some comment that all the OL should be attending the Bentley? training regimen that he (and I think hart) attended
Unless you are referencing something else.
There was a comment that he doesn't hang out with the other OL in their off time.
As for Flowers himself, it only took one game at RT for me to be convinced he simply cannot play in the NFL. Too many athletic and mental limitations that cannot be overcome. Throw Wheeler in there and put one of the blocking TEs on that side until he's comfortable. And whack Flowers!
As for Flowers himself, it only took one game at RT for me to be convinced he simply cannot play in the NFL. Too many athletic and mental limitations that cannot be overcome. Throw Wheeler in there and put one of the blocking TEs on that side until he's comfortable. And whack Flowers!
Um, what?! Taylor Decker was taken in a completely separate draft than Flowers. And only played in 8 games last year. No All Pro at all