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baadbill : 9/11/2018 11:54 pm
How dense do you have to be?

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Video of drill at HS Football Practice


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Moronical  
BlackLight : 9/12/2018 12:23 am : link
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we used to do that every pop warner  
madgiantscow009 : 9/12/2018 12:45 am : link
practice. HS was a lot more tame.
My first reaction was,  
BUgiantfan : 9/12/2018 12:59 am : link
“what’s the big deal? We did that all the time in high school!” Then it suddenly hit me that these guys had a 20 yard running start. That’s NUTS! We had five yards between us.

Those poor kids are going to have damage that will effect them their whole life.
That coach needs a beating  
KWALL2 : 9/12/2018 1:24 am : link
That should be banned at that level.
This coach is a moron  
Tuckrule : 9/12/2018 6:38 am : link
This is a great drill because normally in football your going head to head with an offensive player from 20 yards away in a straight line. Brilliant!!

We did this drill almost daily from about 5-8 yards away this is stupidity and this coach will get sued by the players for sure
We did a similar drill but in a circle. Very tight distance.  
Beezer : 9/12/2018 7:39 am : link
You had to have your head on a swivel. Still could be brutal. I wonder if high school coaches still do that one. Betting yes.
Never had that when I played HS FB (late 80's/early 90s).  
penkap75 : 9/12/2018 7:58 am : link
There was no concussion awareness back then... break the smelling salt vial and go back in the game.

But even live tackling practice usually consisted of short yardage tackling drills. No running headfirst into each other with 20 yard head full of steam. Even you have no awareness of concussions, why risk injuring your players? Just stupid.
RE: We did a similar drill but in a circle. Very tight distance.  
ron mexico : 9/12/2018 8:10 am : link
In comment 14072196 Beezer said:
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You had to have your head on a swivel. Still could be brutal. I wonder if high school coaches still do that one. Betting yes.


bull in the ring. fun times

I also liked the one where the had two guys on their backs head to head, one with a ball. On the whistle both pop up and the RB tries to make the line to gain
I'm guessing this was an open field tacking drill  
ron mexico : 9/12/2018 8:11 am : link
and instead of trying to juke, the RB just decided to truck the smaller player

RE: RE: We did a similar drill but in a circle. Very tight distance.  
Diver_Down : 9/12/2018 8:19 am : link
In comment 14072219 ron mexico said:
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You had to have your head on a swivel. Still could be brutal. I wonder if high school coaches still do that one. Betting yes.



bull in the ring. fun times

I also liked the one where the had two guys on their backs head to head, one with a ball. On the whistle both pop up and the RB tries to make the line to gain


We did both. The latter you describe is just a version of the traditional Oklahoma Drill. But as mentioned above, there was no concussion awareness back then. I remember as OL being taught to keep low by running chutes. Steel pipes constructed to form a series of chutes. Simple, get in your stance and fire through the chute. If you don't maintain a low base, you will hit your head against a steel pipe. Pain as a teaching tool...
Reminds me of "bull in the ring"  
EricJ : 9/12/2018 8:31 am : link
testing toughness, tackling ability and endurance. Much less of an impact than what you saw in that video. Usually about a 5 yard distance between the two players.

Players would make a circle with one guy in the middle. Coach would randomly throw the ball to a guy round the circle and he would have to try and run over the guy in the middle. The moment both players get up, coach is throwing another ball to another player who runs at that same guy. Do this about 10 times until you switch the guy in the middle to someone else.

We did this every day and most of us actually loved it.
That video  
Giantophile : 9/12/2018 10:39 am : link
is disturbing. Playing football is on a very short list of (legal) things that I would forbid my son from doing.
we didn't use a ball in bull in the ring  
Greg from LI : 9/12/2018 10:42 am : link
Coach would just call someone's name. Sometimes that guy would be behind you. God, I hated that.
Burgler in the house!!  
Oskie : 9/12/2018 1:07 pm : link
Ahhh, good times.
Hey  
Anakim : 9/12/2018 1:12 pm : link
Bighorn Rams do it all the time. What's the problem? /s
That's  
dorgan : 9/12/2018 1:15 pm : link
fucking criminal. That coach needs his ass beat.
Man how the times have changed  
BlueHurricane : 9/12/2018 5:48 pm : link
We ran angle tackling drills like that every day in practice.
Things are different  
Archer : 9/12/2018 6:50 pm : link
When I played football there were numerous tackling drills including a bull in the ring. I never minded the one on one drills, I knew how to protect myself when I could see it coming.

I hated drills where you had to beat more than one player
The worst drills were where you would have an additional defender. Two blockers and a running back vs. three defenders. You had to run to a predetermined hole and stay between cones.
The blockers were supposed to create a crease but many times you were getting hit simultaneously from two directions

I can’t count all the times I got knocked up in those drills
I never worried about head injuries but was terrified about getting my knees blown out


we ran the gaunlet then the coach  
gtt350 : 9/12/2018 7:00 pm : link
would be at the end in the center and pop you .
fun times
RE: we didn't use a ball in bull in the ring  
EricJ : 9/12/2018 9:33 pm : link
In comment 14072495 Greg from LI said:
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Coach would just call someone's name. Sometimes that guy would be behind you. God, I hated that.


I loved it... also loved being in the middle. I am wired differently though.
The biggest issue  
mdthedream : 9/13/2018 6:45 am : link
is they both had like a 20 yard distance and ran at full speed into each other. With all the classes they teach coach's these days that is as stupid as it gets. Parents watching that I would have been very pissed off. Tape it and bring it to the schools attention. They should be fired.
I saw a very disturbing ad during last night's game  
baadbill : 9/14/2018 9:46 am : link
It was by the NFL... showing young kids (I think the kids were all African American)... encouraging them to sign up for, and play, football...

It's probably something the NFL has done for years, but this time it really struck me as problematic... it struck me as the same as it would if it was a cigarette manufacturer encouraging kids to start smoking cigarettes.
RE: I saw a very disturbing ad during last night's game  
ron mexico : 9/14/2018 9:49 am : link
In comment 14074655 baadbill said:
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It was by the NFL... showing young kids (I think the kids were all African American)... encouraging them to sign up for, and play, football...

It's probably something the NFL has done for years, but this time it really struck me as problematic... it struck me as the same as it would if it was a cigarette manufacturer encouraging kids to start smoking cigarettes.


oh come on, this is ridiculous.

If this is your stance, why are you watching the NFL?
RE: I saw a very disturbing ad during last night's game  
pjcas18 : 9/14/2018 9:57 am : link
In comment 14074655 baadbill said:
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It was by the NFL... showing young kids (I think the kids were all African American)... encouraging them to sign up for, and play, football...

It's probably something the NFL has done for years, but this time it really struck me as problematic... it struck me as the same as it would if it was a cigarette manufacturer encouraging kids to start smoking cigarettes.


then you really should stop watching football completely or from your moral high ground you're probably complicit.

Not telling you how to live, but based on how disturbing and problematic you find it, not sure how you can live with yourself knowing the evil, manipulative, and dangerous sport you're watching.
Yea, I'm not going to stop watching the Giants... haven't missed  
baadbill : 9/14/2018 10:12 am : link
a game in 50 years... having said that, I have no doubt that the NFL is very concerned about it's future... and, as a billion dollar enterprise, I also don't have any doubt that the NFL is like every other corporation that doesn't give two shits about anything other than money.

During the process of manufacturing cigarettes, all nicotine is naturally removed. It is reintroduced back into the end product solely for the purpose of addicting users.

I believe the NFL has been equally disingenuous about the dangers of CTE, pretending that it is about concussions - which is something they can pretend to be doing something about... When in reality CTE has nothing to do with concussions... it is about repeated subconcussive blows (sub-concussive meaning = not a concussion) ... sustained by offensive and defensive linemen on every snap of the ball ... and on most "normal" tackles and other normal football plays.

The NFL isn't an honest broker of the entire CTE issue. It is a huge money making enterprise controlled by billionaires who don't give one iota about the lives lost... now, or in the future.
RE: Yea, I'm not going to stop watching the Giants... haven't missed  
EricJ : 9/14/2018 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14074690 baadbill said:
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I believe the NFL has been equally disingenuous about the dangers of CTE, pretending that it is about concussions - which is something they can pretend to be doing something about... When in reality CTE has nothing to do with concussions... it is about repeated subconcussive blows (sub-concussive meaning = not a concussion) ... sustained by offensive and defensive linemen on every snap of the ball ... and on most "normal" tackles and other normal football plays.

The NFL isn't an honest broker of the entire CTE issue. It is a huge money making enterprise controlled by billionaires who don't give one iota about the lives lost... now, or in the future.


Dude... I think everybody understands the dangers of playing football now. If you dont, then you are living under a rock. You do not need the NFL to educate parents and players at this point.

Of course the NFL is a money making enterprise. So is the MMA. Guys are getting KNOCKED OUT in just about every fight. Repeated blows to the head with no helmet. Where is the outrage? Why is it evil to make money? Nobody is forcing the players to select football as a profession.
RE: RE: Yea, I'm not going to stop watching the Giants... haven't missed  
baadbill : 9/14/2018 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14075367 EricJ said:
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I believe the NFL has been equally disingenuous about the dangers of CTE, pretending that it is about concussions - which is something they can pretend to be doing something about... When in reality CTE has nothing to do with concussions... it is about repeated subconcussive blows (sub-concussive meaning = not a concussion) ... sustained by offensive and defensive linemen on every snap of the ball ... and on most "normal" tackles and other normal football plays.

The NFL isn't an honest broker of the entire CTE issue. It is a huge money making enterprise controlled by billionaires who don't give one iota about the lives lost... now, or in the future.



Dude... I think everybody understands the dangers of playing football now. If you dont, then you are living under a rock. You do not need the NFL to educate parents and players at this point.

Of course the NFL is a money making enterprise. So is the MMA. Guys are getting KNOCKED OUT in just about every fight. Repeated blows to the head with no helmet. Where is the outrage? Why is it evil to make money? Nobody is forcing the players to select football as a profession.



That's the point. I have no problem with adults choosing a profession. I do, however, have a problem with the NFL using targeted advertisements attempting to entice children to play football.
RE: RE: RE: Yea, I'm not going to stop watching the Giants... haven't missed  
BurberryManning : 9/14/2018 11:42 pm : link
In comment 14075402 baadbill said:
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In comment 14074690 baadbill said:


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I believe the NFL has been equally disingenuous about the dangers of CTE, pretending that it is about concussions - which is something they can pretend to be doing something about... When in reality CTE has nothing to do with concussions... it is about repeated subconcussive blows (sub-concussive meaning = not a concussion) ... sustained by offensive and defensive linemen on every snap of the ball ... and on most "normal" tackles and other normal football plays.

The NFL isn't an honest broker of the entire CTE issue. It is a huge money making enterprise controlled by billionaires who don't give one iota about the lives lost... now, or in the future.



Dude... I think everybody understands the dangers of playing football now. If you dont, then you are living under a rock. You do not need the NFL to educate parents and players at this point.

Of course the NFL is a money making enterprise. So is the MMA. Guys are getting KNOCKED OUT in just about every fight. Repeated blows to the head with no helmet. Where is the outrage? Why is it evil to make money? Nobody is forcing the players to select football as a profession.




That's the point. I have no problem with adults choosing a profession. I do, however, have a problem with the NFL using targeted advertisements attempting to entice children to play football.
I can hardly imagine your thoughts when you see automobile advertisements or fast food commercials.
RE: Man how the times have changed  
Matt M. : 9/15/2018 2:41 am : link
In comment 14073073 BlueHurricane said:
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We ran angle tackling drills like that every day in practice.
From a 20 yard distance?

We used to love tackling drills. But, like most said here, they were usually at about 5 yards distance.
Burberry  
baadbill : 9/15/2018 7:42 am : link
You can’t see the difference between a person attempting to live without ever riding in a car (pretty impossible) versus a person attempting to live without ever playing tackle football?

The NFL is in trouble because more and more responsible parents refuse to let their children play tackle football. If the NFL exists 20 years from now, it will be at the expense of your child’s brain, not mine.
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