at least according to the Detroit Free Press...I know it's early but remember the gnashing of teeth here when it was reported he would NOT be he Giants new HC?
"What happened Monday night at Ford Field wasn’t as embarrassing as it was revealing: Matt Patricia is in over his head.
Maybe that changes as the season moves forward. Maybe it doesn’t."
"The Lions looked confused, unprepared and, at times, disconnected from their coach, who spent most of the night on the sidelines by himself. Now, Patricia doesn’t owe his players shoulder rubs and attaboys during a game.
Yet it’s worth noting that the endearing, affectionate coordinator you saw hugging the sidelines in New England got lost on the way to Detroit. His new persona appears stiffer and uncomfortable, and that’s understandable. He’s the man here.
The question is: Is he the right man?"
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I agree with this.
Once they're out on their own - poof!
Exactly, and even given that, Patricia made little sense. He worked under one of the best defensive coaches ever, and his defenses just weren't that good.
One things for sure, Detroit is a dump of a franchise that can’t get anything right. There’s so little talent on that team that it’s laughable.
The Jets defenders said they knew what the Lions were going to run before the snap after the game. Not one guy, multiple players - to the point where people went back to the broadcast and showed the Jets defense adjusting perfectly on most downs.
Not to excuse Stafford, who IMO was grossly overpaid - but if the other team knows what you're doing, you're going to have a bad night.
The Lions have looked like garbage all preseason, which generally doesn't mean much - but to open up to the powerhouse Jets and get demolished at home is not a good sign.
So what about Belichek then. Does the cut off sleeves on the hoodie turn you off?
Patricia should just be himself. That's where the Belichek coaches go wrong. They get to tight and crank like Bill. O"Brian is successful because he is not afraid to be himself.
The more alarming thing, is that he isolated himself. That's not a good look.
Once they're out on their own - poof!
I think his QB has something to do with his success as well. He was a great defensive coordinator but a middling head coach until Mo
Coughlin was also an established coach with a reputation as a strict disciplinarian.
Stafford is Matt Ryan. Great stats. Great for the fantasy crowd over the years. Top tier QB? He’s light years away from Breese Rodges And Brady.
For all the shit Eli gets his bill he was huge for both Super Bowl runs and wins. People confuse stats w results too often these days
new head coaches went 0 - 7 this week.
I agree looking woefully unprepared and losing are different, but let him have a chance.
I think Gruden and his Raiders looked worse or at least close to as bad, and the Raiders had a better team (til Gruden f-ed it up) - of course the Rams are Super Bowl contenders and the Jets aren't, but neither team looked competitive IMO.
But, I can act like Belichick (asshole) and I can implement the “Patriot Way” (like no one ever thought to pay attention to every detail and work hard and “do your job”). What I can’t do, and what most head coaches in the NFL can’t do, is to break down film, identify tendencies and weakness and then game plan and make in game adjustments which create mismatches that exploit these tendencies and weaknesses. Hoodie’s the best football coach there ever has been. Being his d-co or his o-co means you’re smart and you work hard but it doesn’t mean you have the secret recipe which is the mind meld of Hoodie and Earnie Adams and the GOAT at QB to make it all run on the O field.
Same goes for Shurmur. Don't get me wrong - everything he's done so far gives me a positive outlook on him, but give it a few weeks if we don't turn things around it could be curtains for Pat too.
Exactly right, I think he may have gotten concussed because he sure played like it. And remember it's only ONE game!
He inherited a decent team.
Let's skip that idea
Ridiculous to leap to conclusions on Patricia but he certainly didn't have the team ready to play Monday. That's ultimately what matters most.
Exhibit A - one of the most embarrassing losses in Giants history - ( New Window )
Are you surprised?
I'm guessing being Belichick's DC, when Belichick is probably the greatest defensive mastermind there ever was, doesn't have that sort of brand cache.
You cannot just cut and paste all that.
I expect Patricia to do OK once he has some D players. But he probably needs an O guru.
I'm guessing being Belichick's DC, when Belichick is probably the greatest defensive mastermind there ever was, doesn't have that sort of brand cache.
Tom Coughlin won a national championship at the NCAA Level?
I'm not sure why folks would compare these 2 situations - just ridiculous.
Personally, I think he has done very good work in Houston despite all kinds of QB issues. I hold more of that on Rick Smith than BO. And they've been riddled with some heavy injuries over the years.
So I am very interested to see what he whip up if Watson stays healthy for all 16.
But I agree the evidence is pretty clear - there is a Belichick Curse on his assistants. And it's largely because Belichick is the training wheels for all of his coaches. And when they get a chance to take the training wheels off, they can't ride the bike...
Crennel: NFL, 28-55
Mangini: NFL, 33-48
McDaniels: NFL, 11-17
O'Brien: the Lombardi of the Belichick tree. NCAA, 15-9; NFL, 31-34
Crennel: NFL, 28-55
Mangini: NFL, 33-48
McDaniels: NFL, 11-17
O'Brien: the Lombardi of the Belichick tree. NCAA, 15-9; NFL, 31-34
Mangini gets a little better taking out his Cleveland stop. That is the Chernobyl of NFL franchises.
What do you expect with Tom Savage, TJ Yates, Brock Osweiller, Bryan Hoyer, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Ryan Mallet?
I am a buyer of that - yes. He's hitched to Watson, and if Watson is what I think he is, O'Brien and that franchise are going to make noise this year...
Ehh, that's a pointless way of looking at sports but whatever you say I guess.
I'm sure youd be bitching about trotting out Brock Osweiler for a season but maybe you woudn't?