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NFT: David Wright announcement expected today

DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 9:13 am
Expectation is he will play in at least 1 final game and then "retire" but that's mostly speculation.
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Judging by Reyes comments last night as well...  
ZGiants98 : 9/13/2018 9:17 am : link
Everything is pointing to Wright playing in the last homestand. Gotta admit, if the Wilpons allow it, thry’ll be basically forfeiting millions to throw the fans a bone which would be pretty cool. Hope it happens.
Did Shecky  
Pete in MD : 9/13/2018 9:19 am : link
hint about this a few days ago?
RE: Judging by Reyes comments last night as well...  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 9:19 am : link
In comment 14073503 ZGiants98 said:
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Everything is pointing to Wright playing in the last homestand. Gotta admit, if the Wilpons allow it, thry’ll be basically forfeiting millions to throw the fans a bone which would be pretty cool. Hope it happens.


Not really. The belief is the agreement involves Wright giving back money owed in exchange for playing.
ie  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 9:20 am : link
he's owed 27 million, he takes less in a buyout to play offsetting the cost.
RE: ie  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/13/2018 9:22 am : link
In comment 14073507 DanMetroMan said:
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he's owed 27 million, he takes less in a buyout to play offsetting the cost.


um ill take the money
The  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 9:22 am : link
Mets better hope Alonso doesn't file a grievance

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Laura Albanese @AlbaneseLaura
Peter Alonso said he was told that not being called up was a "business decision, an organizational decision."
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/13/2018 9:25 am : link
Am I wrong in saying it feels like this guy hasn't played in like 5 years? I don't follow the Mets like you all do, but it seems like ages ago that he was in the majors.
It would be cool to see Wright have a last few moments  
Chris684 : 9/13/2018 9:31 am : link
at CitiField.

Hopefully this is the plan.
RE: ...  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 9:32 am : link
In comment 14073519 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Am I wrong in saying it feels like this guy hasn't played in like 5 years? I don't follow the Mets like you all do, but it seems like ages ago that he was in the majors.


He last played May 27 2016
RE: RE: Judging by Reyes comments last night as well...  
SJGiant : 9/13/2018 9:35 am : link
In comment 14073506 DanMetroMan said:
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Everything is pointing to Wright playing in the last homestand. Gotta admit, if the Wilpons allow it, thry’ll be basically forfeiting millions to throw the fans a bone which would be pretty cool. Hope it happens.



Not really. The belief is the agreement involves Wright giving back money owed in exchange for playing.


If Wright plays the last home stand, will his insurance give back be prorated by the number of games he is active on the 40 man roster? If so, it maybe 1 million or less forfeited by the Wilpons
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pjcas18 : 9/13/2018 9:36 am : link
In comment 14073513 DanMetroMan said:
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Mets better hope Alonso doesn't file a grievance



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Laura Albanese @AlbaneseLaura
Peter Alonso said he was told that not being called up was a "business decision, an organizational decision."



I thought minor leaguers couldn't file a grievance since they're not in the "union"
RE: RE: RE: Judging by Reyes comments last night as well...  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 9:37 am : link
In comment 14073543 SJGiant said:
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In comment 14073506 DanMetroMan said:


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In comment 14073503 ZGiants98 said:


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Everything is pointing to Wright playing in the last homestand. Gotta admit, if the Wilpons allow it, thry’ll be basically forfeiting millions to throw the fans a bone which would be pretty cool. Hope it happens.



Not really. The belief is the agreement involves Wright giving back money owed in exchange for playing.



If Wright plays the last home stand, will his insurance give back be prorated by the number of games he is active on the 40 man roster? If so, it maybe 1 million or less forfeited by the Wilpons


If Wright plays a single game his first 60 days of pay for 2019 lose insurance coverage aka instead of the Mets paying 25% of his 60 days salary the Mets would owe 100%. If he agrees to a buyout (as expected) this is all moot.
RE: RE: The  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 14073546 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14073513 DanMetroMan said:


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Mets better hope Alonso doesn't file a grievance



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Laura Albanese @AlbaneseLaura
Peter Alonso said he was told that not being called up was a "business decision, an organizational decision."





I thought minor leaguers couldn't file a grievance since they're not in the "union"


MLB players union has already fired shots over this with the expectation a battle is coming.

"The possibility of a grievance filed at a future date on behalf of the prodigy Guerrero was raised last week after Sportsnet spoke to a member of the players’ association front office, who wished to remain anonymous. Those quotes raised the ire of Jays president Mark Shapiro."
Well, clarity finally here  
Shecky : 9/13/2018 9:43 am : link
Wright, King of Ny
Always a great Fielder
All around great player, great guy, great teammate
And congrats to Jay Horowitz - about time we see former greats being respected and not forgotten.
RE: ie  
ZGiants98 : 9/13/2018 9:43 am : link
In comment 14073507 DanMetroMan said:
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he's owed 27 million, he takes less in a buyout to play offsetting the cost.


Problem with that is he would be doing that anyway so if there is some sort of agreement like that under the table it will never be made public.
Posted  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 9:45 am : link
this on the other thread but still interesting
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even if they  
GMAN56 : 9/13/2018 9:53 am : link
forfeit a million or two, at least the guy is on the field playing unlike Bonilla and Cespedes.

I am a Yankee fan but have respect for D Wright trying to make a comeback and if he does play, Ill go there and show him the respect he deserves.
RE: RE: RE: The  
pjcas18 : 9/13/2018 10:11 am : link
In comment 14073552 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14073513 DanMetroMan said:


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Mets better hope Alonso doesn't file a grievance



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Laura Albanese @AlbaneseLaura
Peter Alonso said he was told that not being called up was a "business decision, an organizational decision."





I thought minor leaguers couldn't file a grievance since they're not in the "union"



MLB players union has already fired shots over this with the expectation a battle is coming.

"The possibility of a grievance filed at a future date on behalf of the prodigy Guerrero was raised last week after Sportsnet spoke to a member of the players’ association front office, who wished to remain anonymous. Those quotes raised the ire of Jays president Mark Shapiro."


I see. So technically Alonso can't file a grievance, but the MLBPA can file one sort of on his behalf?
PJ  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 10:18 am : link
Yeah exactly.
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DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 10:19 am : link
Scout in a piece from @KenDavidoff does not believe Alonso's glove is good enough to be an MLB 1b
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A resolution to the uncertainty makes sense for both sides  
Eric on Li : 9/13/2018 10:21 am : link
i'm sure it's just bc of the "activation fee" but good on the mets for forcing the issue and hopefully arriving at a proper conclusion - sendoff for wright, retirement settlement, fresh roster spot to work with going forward.
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Eric on Li : 9/13/2018 10:24 am : link
In comment 14073629 DanMetroMan said:
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Scout in a piece from @KenDavidoff does not believe Alonso's glove is good enough to be an MLB 1b Link - ( New Window )


Dropped his errors from 19 to 9 this year. Only had 3 in Vegas in 60 games. At least it's progress. With the reports being that he's a hard worker I have a hard time believing he can't be marginal. Bruce basically picked up a glove for the first time in a decade and has been passable.
If Wade Boggs  
pjcas18 : 9/13/2018 10:45 am : link
can win a gold glove (even though we know GG's are a joke) I believe anyone can improve their defense with hard work.

Speed and agility could prevent someone from being a plus defender, but just my opinion, defense is fixable to a passable level.

It's weird to see players get to upper minor leagues and not be able to play passable D (especially when for someone like Dom Smith (for example) defense was supposed to be a strength), but it's what I believe.
One last homestand at Citifield  
spike : 9/13/2018 10:45 am : link
to send off Wright AND Reyes

Jeff Wilpon has been waiting for this date. Thats why he kept Jose around all season.
Not  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 10:47 am : link
trolling but I expect Reyes back next year (at least in ST).
RE: Not  
pjcas18 : 9/13/2018 10:52 am : link
In comment 14073678 DanMetroMan said:
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trolling but I expect Reyes back next year (at least in ST).


If he wasn't blocking young players from getting AB's and valuable playing time would anyone really have a problem with someone who can play a lot of places on the diamond, steal a base, and once in a blue moon provide a decent at-bat?

No. He's a decent bench option. There are probably better, younger, options, but he's not a terrible bench guy. If he is a bench guy.

I'd rather give Cecchini a chance  
spike : 9/13/2018 11:03 am : link
and hopefully TJ will be ready by ST
If Reyes is still on the roster next year new GM has failed  
Eric on Li : 9/13/2018 11:07 am : link
that's an immediate and easy litmus test for me. Disqualifying is that Reyes is now terrible defensively. Like in the competition for worst defender in baseball over the last 2 years bad. He has 11 errors in about 50 starts this year (400 innings). He's been valued at about -30 runs over these past couple years.

And if that's not good enough he's also still hitting under .200, with a .267 OBP.

Guillorme, Dom Smith, Mcneil all should have had his roster spot at various points in time this season. Same story last year with Cecchini. Wasting a spot on him at the expense of giving young guys time has been the easiest stupid decision the mets have made in the last few years.
Reyes has been awful  
Metnut : 9/13/2018 11:08 am : link
this year, even for a bench player. Even an average AAA player would be better (hence his negative 0.7 fWar). If his name wasn't Jose Reyes, I think he wouldn't be in the league, especially considering his really ugly domestic violence incident.

What's done is done for this year. but I hope he can upgrade that roster spot in 2019. I expect that the new GM will go outside the organization but even TJ Rivera or Gavin Cecchini would very likely be a much better option than Reyes IMO.
I’m pretty sure Reyes said last week  
ZGiants98 : 9/13/2018 11:26 am : link
“I know I won’t be a Met next year”. I think his time is over. Unlike Wright though, he might feel he can still catch on with another team.
RE: I’m pretty sure Reyes said last week  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 11:38 am : link
In comment 14073741 ZGiants98 said:
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“I know I won’t be a Met next year”. I think his time is over. Unlike Wright though, he might feel he can still catch on with another team.


He flat out said he'd be open to a minor league deal so...
Presser  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 11:39 am : link
at 1:45
Pretty  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 11:40 am : link
clear Wright will at minimum play again based on the release.
Reyes "value"  
pjcas18 : 9/13/2018 11:45 am : link
is not in statistics, yes he's been bad, it's in his versatility. He can do many things at the same equally bad level.

Like I said he can be replaced with younger players, who are at least more proficient at one thing, but if he were limited in his AB's and PT I wouldn't have a major issue with him.

Heck, the Red Sox won the ALCS in 2004 because of a stolen base. The Mets could use even his old legs as a PR.
Mike F  
KWhite2250 : 9/13/2018 12:09 pm : link
Tweeted the mets are activating him for the final homestand.
RE: Reyes  
allstarjim : 9/13/2018 12:18 pm : link
In comment 14073757 pjcas18 said:
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is not in statistics, yes he's been bad, it's in his versatility. He can do many things at the same equally bad level.

Like I said he can be replaced with younger players, who are at least more proficient at one thing, but if he were limited in his AB's and PT I wouldn't have a major issue with him.

Heck, the Red Sox won the ALCS in 2004 because of a stolen base. The Mets could use even his old legs as a PR.


Hopefully Reyes won't be back. I will give him credit, he kept at it and improved in the 2nd half. Still not to even mediocre major league level, but at least he wasn't the abject disaster he was in the first half.
Not going to lie...  
moze1021 : 9/13/2018 1:08 pm : link
One last game with Wright and Reyes on the left side of the infield... that would be special. I'd be very tempted to make the first trip from Philly to Citi in a loooong time...

As a 33 year old die-hard, both of these guys are right there with Piazza as all time favorites. Sad that their careers will end like this instead of joining Mike in the hall with Mets caps on (which seemed possible, even likely, back in '07)
I'm happy that the team  
Metnut : 9/13/2018 1:21 pm : link
is playing better. As frustrated as I've been with the team and the front office, there's still talent here. Part of what makes getting a new front office this offseason exciting, is that I can fully 100% buyin to the Mets making a run at 80 wins this September knowing that a new front office won't take it the wrong way and use it as an excuse not to upgrade this offseason.
Being versatile doesn't matter if you suck at everything  
Eric on Li : 9/13/2018 1:23 pm : link
Reyes literally doesn't do anything well anymore. He is a negative impact player in every single aspect of the game (he's even graded out this year as one of their worst base runners) and a negative impact presence because he's basically a walking advertisement that performance doesn't matter on the Mets. If he's that good of a mentor make him a coach or an assistant coach and give back the spot on the 40 man.
Eirher way  
pjcas18 : 9/13/2018 1:25 pm : link
if Reyes is gone I'm cool with it, if he's not, but he rarely plays and that's the biggest thing Mets fans have to worry about (Reyes' 40-man spot) in 2019 then I'm guessing the year is drastically different than this one and it's a huge success and I'm not going to worry about it.
,  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 1:27 pm : link
BREAKING: Wright will be activated for final homestand per @NYDNSports #Mets
I haven't watched a minute...  
Oskie : 9/13/2018 1:31 pm : link
of anything Mets since the Brewers stole home on a little league 1st and 3rd situation. I would however tune in to watch David Wright play one last time (if that's what it turns out to be).
I wonder  
pjcas18 : 9/13/2018 1:32 pm : link
if Flores will cry.

LOL.
baseball, as life  
RasputinPrime : 9/13/2018 1:34 pm : link
is never fair. As fans we were robbed of an amazing player.
RE: Eirher way  
Eric on Li : 9/13/2018 1:34 pm : link
In comment 14073886 pjcas18 said:
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if Reyes is gone I'm cool with it, if he's not, but he rarely plays and that's the biggest thing Mets fans have to worry about (Reyes' 40-man spot) in 2019 then I'm guessing the year is drastically different than this one and it's a huge success and I'm not going to worry about it.


Yes and no because his presence is emblematic of the bigger issues that plague this franchise. Preferential treatment, lack of accountability, wasting valuable development resources (service time at the MLB level), and just all around useless, wasteful moves. Reyes hanging around again next year isn't important until his roster spot is standing in the way of next year's Jeff McNeil.
It's  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 1:35 pm : link
also yet another example of an organization that can't identify it's own talent. Nimmo, Conforto, now McNeil.
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Eric on Li : 9/13/2018 1:35 pm : link
In comment 14073891 DanMetroMan said:
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BREAKING: Wright will be activated for final homestand per @NYDNSports #Mets


Really happy for Wright. I really hope this ends things on a high note for him and the organization. That will be 1 more good thing to potentially take from this season.
RE: RE: Eirher way  
pjcas18 : 9/13/2018 1:40 pm : link
In comment 14073906 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 14073886 pjcas18 said:


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if Reyes is gone I'm cool with it, if he's not, but he rarely plays and that's the biggest thing Mets fans have to worry about (Reyes' 40-man spot) in 2019 then I'm guessing the year is drastically different than this one and it's a huge success and I'm not going to worry about it.



Yes and no because his presence is emblematic of the bigger issues that plague this franchise. Preferential treatment, lack of accountability, wasting valuable development resources (service time at the MLB level), and just all around useless, wasteful moves. Reyes hanging around again next year isn't important until his roster spot is standing in the way of next year's Jeff McNeil.


I'd rather a veteran sit on the bench in Queens in a limited role that won't get consistent playing time, than a young developmental guy.

I hate calling guys up to sit on the bench, unless it's a AAA veteran, but young guys who need AB's and playing time. Nope. I don't see the value.

So if that the role and you have a better veteran who is cool with one start per week to ten days - like a Juan Uribe type - then sign them up otherwise I'm not going to fret over Reyes in that role. I can't speak for players but I wouldn't view that as favoritism.

RE: It's  
Eric on Li : 9/13/2018 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14073908 DanMetroMan said:
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also yet another example of an organization that can't identify it's own talent. Nimmo, Conforto, now McNeil.


Exactly - that's the main issue that needs to be fixed. Reyes' presence is a symptom of the bigger disease of mishandling young talent.
They  
DanMetroMan : 9/13/2018 1:44 pm : link
can't even do THIS right lol

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