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Is OBJ stepping out of bounds too easily?

Don in DC : 9/13/2018 5:48 pm

Obviously I recognize the outstanding talent that OBJ represents. However, there were several times during this past Sunday's game where OBJ had the ball in his hands and it appeared possible that he could try to turn upfield and gain some potentially significant additional yards, but instead he simply stepped out of bounds.

It seems to me that he looks like he is wary of contact and erring on the side of self-preservation as a result of his recent injury.

My imagination, or did anyone else notice this?

First game back after missing the season

Chip : 9/13/2018 5:54 pm : link

and playing no preseason snaps. Lets see what happens as the season goes but yes to your question. We saw what happened when he was not in the lineup.

come on Don what he did was smart each time there

gtt350 : 9/13/2018 5:58 pm : link

were three guys right there to tackle him

meh

Leg of Theismann : 9/13/2018 6:00 pm : link

He had 11 catches for 111 yards and drew 2 defensive penalties. I'm not complaining. Honestly if he's going to catch 100 balls a season for the next 6 years and we're paying him $20M a year I don't mind him avoiding hits when he can. As long as it doesn't prevent a first down or TD I'm okay with it.

Nah

David B. : 9/13/2018 6:00 pm : link

He should be taking big, unnecessary hits.

Nope

kelsto811 : 9/13/2018 6:17 pm : link

But this did remind me of some frustration i had during the game. He kept going sideways rather than forward, even in spots where he had a chance to burst through for extra yards. That kind of bothered me but I do trust the guys judgement. No reason to take an unnecessary hit if you can't turn it into something big

Each time that happened,

DonQuixote : 9/13/2018 6:34 pm : link

I thought he had no chance of getting more yards.

He was plenty physical in the middle of the field.

No he did the same pre-inury

USAF NYG Fan : 9/13/2018 6:42 pm : link

and it's a good thing. He sees when he's not going to get much, if any, yards and either goes to the ground or steps out of bounds. He has a target on his back. I'm not kidding. He SHOULD NOT look for contact. He makes moves until he knows he's out of moves.

That's exactly what I want to see him do too.

Good observation if true,

TMS : 9/13/2018 6:46 pm : link

and can see a ball receiver trying to avoid a late hit after a reception. Nasty game football and OBJ takes a lot of illegal late hits that are never called. The Refs; job not yours. it happens on both sides of the ball. OBJ is not the biggest guy, but his desire and heart are as big as anyones, Opposing defenses want him hurt and out period. Get real.

Smart guy

crick n NC : 9/13/2018 6:51 pm : link

OBJ

When he does fake going ob

mattlawson : 9/13/2018 6:52 pm : link

And takes it to the house in the playoffs I�ll remind us of this post. #longcon

I do feel like there was one play

mfsd : 9/13/2018 6:55 pm : link

where he cut out of bounds about 3 yards short of the 1st down marker

But in general I agree with the crowd...I'd rather he make good business decisions to stay on the field than to take shots to the head, ribs and legs fighting for an extra yard.

He is who he is - All-Pro talent, but not a Plaxico sized guy who should be playing that way

Imagination...

Jimmy Googs : 9/13/2018 6:57 pm : link

is that what you call it?

Each time he ran out of bounds

eclipz928 : 9/13/2018 7:03 pm : link

I thought it was the right decision. This is the NFL - you may make one guy miss you near the sidelines, but you won't likely make two guys miss you. No reason to take any unnecessary abuse unless it means preventing the team from having to punt the ball.

And besides that, probably more often than anyone Odell catches the ball in traffic going across the middle of the field - never seen him short arm it. I have no questions about his toughness or willingness to take a hit.

He is stepping out.

section125 : 9/13/2018 7:04 pm : link

So what. He is 198 lbs, not 230. He is lethal with speed not power.

Keep him healthy.

It's cool to have an observation

Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2018 7:06 pm : link

But what would you say is the value of this? Do you want him to take more hits?

oh, for fucks sake

speedywheels : 9/13/2018 7:07 pm : link

He should take unnecessary shots for a few yards?

He should truck defenders like Brandon Jacobs

Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/13/2018 7:17 pm : link

Don't you know who I am, I'm the Juggernaut bish!

LOL

ZogZerg : 9/13/2018 7:19 pm : link

arcarsenal : 9/13/2018 7:25 pm : link

I'm sure the Giants noticed this as well and are probably wondering if they made the right decision in giving him that contract. Pretty big red flag, IMO...

RE: .

crick n NC : 9/13/2018 7:27 pm : link

In comment 14074305 arcarsenal said:

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I'm sure the Giants noticed this as well and are probably wondering if they made the right decision in giving him that contract. Pretty big red flag, IMO...

FACT

I know there's this idea that you should go for EVERY yard,

81_Great_Dane : 9/13/2018 7:27 pm : link

and NEVER CONCEDE ANYTHING. Jim Brown didn't like Franco Harris because Harris would run out of bounds, avoiding extra contact. That idea is ingrained in football.

But in today's NFL that just isn't practical. You have to choose your spots, and there aren't many spots where it makes sense to take that kind of punishment.

Plus: If you invite those hits you also increase the chance for a fumble. It's smart sometimes to take the yards, limit the hits on you, and protect the ball.

crick n NC : 9/13/2018 7:30 pm : link

He..

FatMan in Charlotte : 9/13/2018 7:34 pm : link

had a bet with Landry that he could stay off of Sportscenter....

Huh?

Marty866b : 9/13/2018 7:41 pm : link

Stepping out of bounds too easily? Really?

Yes

ArlingtonMike : 9/13/2018 7:47 pm : link

He needs to take more advantage of these 1 on 4 situations.

JFC...

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/13/2018 7:48 pm : link

...

Bro............................

Bchurch : 9/13/2018 8:11 pm : link

Really??

He�s uncoverable...

trueblueinpw : 9/13/2018 8:12 pm : link

Sit back, watch and enjoy the show. The young man is ridiculously good at his job. You can trust that he knows what he�s doing.

RE: meh

chuckydee9 : 9/13/2018 8:17 pm : link

In comment 14074245 Leg of Theismann said:

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all that while facing top 5 CB.. other than Brown there isn't a wr who can beat Jax's CBs this often.. I am happy he is actually running out of bounce.. we are a 3-13 team without him..

He will take the contact if he's in a playoff game

jamison884 : 9/13/2018 8:25 pm : link

I'm sure if you did a massive scientific study, the extra "1.something" yards extra when taking contact versus stepping out has less impact to the NYG's success when compared to the injury potential eliminating him from snaps.

In other words, be smart about contact (as he's done) until it really counts.

When you have that much passion

ghost718 : 9/13/2018 8:25 pm : link

you just want to run to the sidelines and talk about the next play.

Disagree

mpinmaine : 9/13/2018 8:35 pm : link

We cannot see the entire field on the TV

RE: He�s uncoverable...

mrvax : 9/13/2018 8:50 pm : link

In comment 14074340 trueblueinpw said:

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Sit back, watch and enjoy the show. The young man is ridiculously good at his job. You can trust that he knows what he�s doing.

I've seen some damn good WRs but the way Beckham was able to create separation Sunday was just crazy.

I would tell ANY of my players to be wary of contact

Knineteen : 9/13/2018 9:03 pm : link

if it meant sacrificing a meaningless yard or two. Same thing with a baseball player unnecessarily running to first base.

Save your body; it's a long season.

Even Saquon

CT Charlie : 9/14/2018 8:09 am : link

should value longevity ahead of macho.

Holy

mikeinbloomfield : 9/14/2018 8:47 am : link

crap. LOL.

Yes,

RinR : 9/14/2018 8:50 am : link

It's your imagination.

No Biggee

Rong5611 : 9/14/2018 8:55 am : link

He was playing smart, had nowhere to go each time. Why get popped for no reason?

people must be sick and tired

family progtitioner : 9/14/2018 9:07 am : link

of talking about the o-line and the Jets. Let's make up a controversial subject to get through the week

It's

Jerry K : 9/14/2018 9:31 am : link

Eli's fault.

Come on Don...

Howyadoin : 9/14/2018 9:33 am : link

Really Bruh?

Boy...

Don in DC : 9/14/2018 11:39 am : link

raise a question and ask for opinions and people get pretty worked up.

He looked to me to be stepping out a bit early. There was at least one play where I thought he clearly could have gotten to first down yardage and didn't go for it, but stepped out a few yards short instead.

I'm not saying it's not the smart play for his longevity, or even for his productivity. But I noticed it.

Odd question

santacruzom : 9/14/2018 11:53 am : link

I mean yeah, I suppose he is too easily stepping out of bounds and the opposing defense could work harder and scheme to make it more difficult for him to do so. But I'm not sure why they'd do that, and I'm not sure why we should care about how easily OBJ is doing things.

Franco Harris

Bubba : 9/14/2018 12:36 pm : link

was 235lbs and ran out of bounds, so what?

Bad post

TMS : 9/14/2018 5:13 pm : link

with a bad implication. so you got what you should have expected. Learn from it. Most here do not want our franchise WR going for the extra yard on sideline plays that are already over, most of the time.

LOL

Don in DC : 9/14/2018 10:01 pm : link

Ok there. Take yourself a l little more seriously.