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Giants are 3 point underdogs

armstead98 : 9/14/2018 2:13 am
I still think they win outright but Vegas thinks Cowboys win this.
Home teams having a + 3 point spread  
montanagiant : 9/14/2018 2:41 am : link
Means it's a pick-em
It's not a pick'em game  
JohnB : 9/14/2018 3:21 am : link
the Cowboys are expected to win the game by 3 points.

Yes, the team are considered equal but the home team is favored because it's easy to play at home. But it is not a pick'em game.
MAKING A LINE  
hankb1126 : 9/14/2018 3:37 am : link
when linesmaker makes a line he gives any home team at least a 3 point advantage

"you are what your record says you are" Bill Parcells  
Hilary : 9/14/2018 6:36 am : link
The Giants need to show that they can win a game.It is a new regime with mostly new players but the same problems-
poor offensive line play, inability to run the ball, poor red zone offense, and a QB prone to the pick six.Hopefully this will improve against lesser defensive teams than the Jaguars.
RE: It's not a pick'em game  
Tuckrule : 9/14/2018 7:36 am : link
In comment 14074508 JohnB said:
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the Cowboys are expected to win the game by 3 points.

Yes, the team are considered equal but the home team is favored because it's easy to play at home. But it is not a pick'em game.


You donít know what spreads mean. The poster who said itís pickem is correct. Vegas basically is saying itís even but Dallas is home therefore 3. A neutral site would be pickem or Dallas -1
This is all very confusing....  
Jimmy Googs : 9/14/2018 7:43 am : link
Do I subtract the 3 from the 3 to get to zero?

Or do I add 3 to zero to get to 3?

If we only had some folks on BBI that can help understand how odds work...
Thanks for clearing that up, Hank.  
Boy Cord : 9/14/2018 7:47 am : link
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I don't know about all that  
Gman11 : 9/14/2018 8:22 am : link
but I'm taking the 3 points and betting the rent money.
Moneyline is +133  
larryflower37 : 9/14/2018 8:24 am : link
Just took a second mortgage on the house to go all in
Vegas..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/14/2018 8:25 am : link
doesn't think the Cowboys will win.

They think if they set the spread at 3 points that it will attract the most action.

For probably the millionth time here - the spreads are aimed at the betting public, not the actual prediction of the game.
These are 2 evenly matched teams  
The_Boss : 9/14/2018 8:31 am : link
Just go win the game.
3 points is about right. The Cowboys defense is about as good as ours.  
Ira : 9/14/2018 8:35 am : link
On offense, they have the better line, while we're better at the skill positions. The 3 points, as said above, has to do with it being played in their house.
I'm not sure  
Harvest Blend : 9/14/2018 9:05 am : link
why anyone would expect the Giants to beat anybody.
RE: I'm not sure  
The_Boss : 9/14/2018 9:19 am : link
In comment 14074605 Harvest Blend said:
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why anyone would expect the Giants to beat anybody.


ESPNís FPI win projection (whatever the fuck that is) gives the NYG a 29% chance of winning. This game looks like 50/50 to me.
RE: Vegas..  
Mike from Ohio : 9/14/2018 9:21 am : link
In comment 14074566 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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doesn't think the Cowboys will win.

They think if they set the spread at 3 points that it will attract the most action.

For probably the millionth time here - the spreads are aimed at the betting public, not the actual prediction of the game.


This is very cynical. The odds from Vegas are meant only to provide insight into the future for fans who won't have time to watch the games. Sure, they may make some money on it from time to time, but gambling in Vegas isn't just about the money.
Not to confuse...  
trueblueinpw : 9/14/2018 9:24 am : link
Itís not about whoís favored to win, per se, but enticing people to wager both sides of the bet in order to hedge risk.
I have no idea what this means  
RinR : 9/14/2018 9:25 am : link
In comment 14074631 Mike from Ohio said:
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The odds from Vegas are meant only to provide insight into the future for fans who won't have time to watch the games.


RE: I have no idea what this means  
Mike from Ohio : 9/14/2018 9:30 am : link
In comment 14074636 RinR said:
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In comment 14074631 Mike from Ohio said:


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The odds from Vegas are meant only to provide insight into the future for fans who won't have time to watch the games.




It's sarcasm used to make a point.
Why would anyone who isnt a Giant fan  
cjac : 9/14/2018 9:34 am : link
think the Giants would win this game?

they havent beat anyone in forever
RE: Why would anyone who isnt a Giant fan  
Big Blue '56 : 9/14/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 14074647 cjac said:
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think the Giants would win this game?

they havent beat anyone in forever


New personnel including healthy weapons they didníthave last year, new coaching staff, better PC guys in Shurmur and Bettcher, removal of toxic players. Meshing of course does take time.
RE: Why would anyone who isnt a Giant fan  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/14/2018 9:45 am : link
In comment 14074647 cjac said:
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think the Giants would win this game?

they havent beat anyone in forever

Not everyone has a blind hatred of the Giants and unwavering devotion to Sam Darnold and the Jets as many BBIers do.

The more real narrative is Vegas odds, which is basically a pickem between Dallas and NYG. I would avoid the bet, it's a good line, but lean NYG.
RE: Vegas..  
Phil S : 9/14/2018 10:15 am : link
In comment 14074566 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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doesn't think the Cowboys will win.

They think if they set the spread at 3 points that it will attract the most action.

For probably the millionth time here - the spreads are aimed at the betting public, not the actual prediction of the game.


The spread is set to get equal betting on both sides. If we assume the bettors are rational that should be equal to the odds for the game. Otherwise pro gamblers could make money betting against irrational public gamblers.
Well done!  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/14/2018 10:16 am : link
Even arc would appreciate the sarcasm!

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This is very cynical. The odds from Vegas are meant only to provide insight into the future for fans who won't have time to watch the games. Sure, they may make some money on it from time to time, but gambling in Vegas isn't just about the money.


I wouldn't touch this game  
Banks : 9/14/2018 10:25 am : link
this is a true pick em game. Only way I take this game is on a super teaser parlay
RE: I wouldn't touch this game  
Phil S : 9/14/2018 10:29 am : link
In comment 14074711 Banks said:
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this is a true pick em game. Only way I take this game is on a super teaser parlay


Assuming this is serious, you should bet the Giants since you are getting 3 points on a game you think is pick em.
RE: RE: Why would anyone who isnt a Giant fan  
Dankbeerman : 9/14/2018 10:56 am : link
In comment 14074654 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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In comment 14074647 cjac said:


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think the Giants would win this game?

they havent beat anyone in forever


Not everyone has a blind hatred of the Giants and unwavering devotion to Sam Darnold and the Jets as many BBIers do.

The more real narrative is Vegas odds, which is basically a pickem between Dallas and NYG. I would avoid the bet, it's a good line, but lean NYG.


Every single Cowboy fan is looking at this as an easy right the ship game. They are looking at the 2nd worst team in the nfl last year who last time the teams played Dallas wiped the floor with in their building.

Wouldnt be surprised if the line goes up


RE: This is all very confusing....  
Joey in VA : 9/14/2018 11:12 am : link
In comment 14074541 Jimmy Googs said:
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Do I subtract the 3 from the 3 to get to zero?

Or do I add 3 to zero to get to 3?

If we only had some folks on BBI that can help understand how odds work...
You carry the 3 and then divide by 0.
RE: Does anyone know  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/14/2018 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14074518 fivehead said:
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if the home team gets a 3 point advantage when linesmakers set the lines?


<spits out coffee> BU WUH HUH HUHUH
MAKING A LINE  
arcarsenal : 9/14/2018 12:42 pm : link
when linesmaker makes a line he gives any home team at least a 3 point advantage
RE: I wouldn't touch this game  
schabadoo : 9/14/2018 1:17 pm : link
In comment 14074711 Banks said:
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this is a true pick em game. Only way I take this game is on a super teaser parlay


If it's a pick em game you'd bet the money line at +135. That's some sweet action.
I took the Giants  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/14/2018 4:35 pm : link
and the under 40, under 38 under 35 and under 28
I'm betting $50 on the Cows  
mrvax : 9/14/2018 6:31 pm : link
If the boys win, I'm up some money. If the Giants win, it will be money well spent.
RE: I'm betting $50 on the Cows  
Mike from Ohio : 9/16/2018 9:08 am : link
In comment 14075238 mrvax said:
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If the boys win, I'm up some money. If the Giants win, it will be money well spent.


Your day will reall suck if the Cowboys win 21-20.
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