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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/14/2018 9:45 am
Giants 28, Cowboys 17.

Odell & Barkley both get a TD.

Eli Apple with a pick.

Giants get to 1-1 & all is right with the world Monday morning.
Giants 24 Cowboys 10  
Essex : 9/14/2018 9:47 am : link
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They have no offense besides Elliot and I think we can shut him down because he runs toward our strength in the middle. We are more susceptible to the outside runners and that does not play to Elliot's strength. Maybe wishing instead of predicting, but I do think the Giants will win 24-10 or in a comfortable manner. If we can't win this game, it is going to be another long season with our schedule.
Giants 24 Cowboys 20  
sshin05 : 9/14/2018 9:50 am : link
Should be a close game. Nobody on the Cowboys can stop odell and he'll get 2 scores. Pick six for Janoris.
trying to be optimistic  
family progtitioner : 9/14/2018 9:56 am : link
Giants 27-13. However the realist in me sees continued issues with O-line and skittish Eli and we see another pick 6, more drops from EE and SS and the Giants lose 21-17. I hope optimism wins
Reality check  
gmenatlarge : 9/14/2018 9:56 am : link
oddsmakers always favor the desperate team at home. This Giants team is too full of itself for showing up against Jax.
Flowers can't handle Lawrence ruining another Sunday for Eli.
When was the last time the Giants scored more than 20 even, I'll believe it when I see it.

Cowboys 20-Giants-17
We have a season......for a few weeks anyway  
The_Boss : 9/14/2018 10:00 am : link
Giants 23
Cowboys 17

Eli throws for 220, 1 TD, 1 INT (there’s always 1)
Barkley goes for 120 and another score from the goal line
No Dallas TE goes for more than 30 yards
It'll be another close divisional game,  
Simms11 : 9/14/2018 10:03 am : link
most of them are. With that said, I think Dak will have a better game this week as he seems very determined to right their ship, especially after Collins comments about having a better chance of winning putting the ball in his hands. Linehan will have them using more misdirection, play-action, bootlegs, etc against this D. We've been susceptible to QBs running with the ball, as well. Our offense has to show up this week and start scoring points. I will then become a believer. I just hope this doesn't become another moral victory. Just find a way to win this game.
Giants win a close one  
Dave in PA : 9/14/2018 10:06 am : link
If this team is going to even pretend to be competitive this year, then they find a way to win a close hard fought game. 17 - 13 Giants
Giants 44 Cowboys 10  
Koffman : 9/14/2018 10:10 am : link
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34-10  
larryflower37 : 9/14/2018 10:11 am : link
Offense comes out on fire 21-0 by the end of the first.
OBJ 7 for 160 2 TD's
Barkley 25 for 175 and 2 scores
Defense cause 3 to's
This is going to be  
cjac : 9/14/2018 10:11 am : link
a NYG coming out party

35-10 Giants win

We are going to smoke them
27 - 20 Giants  
ZogZerg : 9/14/2018 10:17 am : link
If the O can't score more than 25 they have major issues.
Ugh.  
FStubbs : 9/14/2018 10:21 am : link
My heart says Giants, but my mind says Dallas is at home on a Sunday night, and we still have Flowers on the offensive line.

Dallas 23, Giants 20
RE: Ugh.  
cjac : 9/14/2018 10:25 am : link
In comment 14074701 FStubbs said:
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My heart says Giants, but my mind says Dallas is at home on a Sunday night, and we still have Flowers on the offensive line.

Dallas 23, Giants 20


No way the Giants lose this game
Sneaking suspicion  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/14/2018 10:28 am : link
Giants clothesline the Cowgirls. If Giants take a big league early, that O is not geared to shoot it out catch up.
22 -17  
Dankbeerman : 9/14/2018 10:59 am : link
late td to take the lead, miss the 2 pt trying to make it 7.

Go Giants we need a win!
Cowboys 10- Giants 7  
GMAN4LIFE : 9/14/2018 11:01 am : link
Eli throws 2 tipped INTs

Saquon gets 90 yards and a TD

We hold Zeke to under 100 yards.


Prediction you say?  
jcn56 : 9/14/2018 11:06 am : link


I think they win, but it's a division game, it'll be close and ugly.
RE: Reality check  
ShockNRoll : 9/14/2018 11:08 am : link
In comment 14074667 gmenatlarge said:
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oddsmakers always favor the desperate team at home. This Giants team is too full of itself for showing up against Jax.
Flowers can't handle Lawrence ruining another Sunday for Eli.
When was the last time the Giants scored more than 20 even, I'll believe it when I see it.

Cowboys 20-Giants-17


I’m curious what evidence you have of the team being too full of itself for showing up against Jacksonville. Not trying to be a jerk, just asking genuinely because I don’t get the sense anyone is truly satisfied with Sunday’s result, from fans, to players/coaches, to front office. I think a lot of us saw some positives from Sunday, but I don’t see the Giants losing because of a mindset of being full of itself.

I think the Giants will win 21-13. Offense still needs some work and will struggle with the Dallas pass rush. Our big playmakers will make some big plays, but Elliott will also get his fair share of damage done. However, I don’t think what Elliott will do is going to be enough to carry their offense.
I would love a Giants win on Sunday night  
fivehead : 9/14/2018 11:11 am : link
but the Cowboys will win 27-13.

Our O-line will be embarrassed again, and the refs will blow a crucial call.
Final Score...  
M.S. : 9/14/2018 11:12 am : link

...Giants need to prove they can win a game before I'm picking them.

Dallas 21
Giants 17
I think the Giants win 5 games this year  
George : 9/14/2018 11:14 am : link
This is one of them.

NY 26
Dallas 17

Eli 19-29, 213, 2 TDs
Saquon 21-96
Lorenzo Carter 1st NFL sack
Big Win  
Thegratefulhead : 9/14/2018 11:18 am : link
Giants 38 Cowboys 28 but it isn't that close, Cowboys points come at slop time. Eli throws for 400 yds and 4tds helped by SB taking a long screen pass to the house and OBJ taking a long slant home. Britt makes 100 comments in two hours and ambulances show up at his house when Eli bashers are forced admit they were wrong.
Giants 20  
Ira : 9/14/2018 11:22 am : link
Cowboys 14
20-13 Giants  
Greg from LI : 9/14/2018 11:22 am : link
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How do you predict a "sure" win,  
Doomster : 9/14/2018 11:24 am : link
until you see this team play with some sort of confidence?.....there have been "wins" along the way, the last several years, but I haven't seen a Giant team strut around for a long time(even during the 11-5 season).....
I think we are  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 9/14/2018 11:30 am : link
going to win. I haven't been this confident about a Cowboys game in a long time.

I think we see the offense click a little bit better this week, and I have confidence the D can shut down the run.
Not close  
AcesUp : 9/14/2018 11:32 am : link
Dallas has problems and I think we capitalize on them.
RE: It'll be another close divisional game,  
fredgbrown : 9/14/2018 11:37 am : link
In comment 14074675 Simms11 said:
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most of them are. With that said, I think Dak will have a better game this week as he seems very determined to right their ship, especially after Collins comments about having a better chance of winning putting the ball in his hands. Linehan will have them using more misdirection, play-action, bootlegs, etc against this D. We've been susceptible to QBs running with the ball, as well. Our offense has to show up this week and start scoring points. I will then become a believer. I just hope this doesn't become another moral victory. Just find a way to win this game.


Good players play great games because they are very good players not because of what another player on the other team says. If you need that to play a great game then you weren't that good to begin with.
This thread  
Cap'n Bluebeard : 9/14/2018 11:39 am : link
I can't tell if some of you are for real. I'm optimistic about this game, but half of you guys are making these guys look rational

Giants 27, Dallas 16  
Boy Cord : 9/14/2018 11:40 am : link
I really don't think Dallas is any good, particularly at WR and TE. I am so excited to watch OBJ and Barkley. Both will score and both will go over 100 total yards each.
Yeah  
George : 9/14/2018 11:44 am : link
my level of confidence in a Giants victory Sunday has more to do with my sense of Dallas futility than it does with any semblance of New York prowess.

I actually think the Cowboys of 2018 will be a lot like the Giants of 2017, and vice versa.
Well, it is a must win.  
George from PA : 9/14/2018 11:48 am : link
Probably is now the easiest of the 1st 7 games on schedule.

Dallas looked hapless and the Giants lost to a better team but kept it competitive.

If the Giants lose.....i feel the season will be lost before it even started.....much like last year.

So, i sure hope the Giants win.
This will be a comfortable W..  
bw in dc : 9/14/2018 11:50 am : link
18-6, Jints.
Giants 17-14  
Giants86 : 9/14/2018 11:54 am : link
until we block it will be a struggle.

Giants 12  
Joey in VA : 9/14/2018 11:57 am : link
Cowboys 30. Offense shits the bed in the red zone, Dak uses "the humble 21" comments as fuel and he and fire crotch Cole Beasley go off on BW Webb.
Giants 27  
Ryan in Albany : 9/14/2018 12:03 pm : link
Cows 13
Dallas 20 - Giants 16  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/14/2018 12:03 pm : link
this is a building year.
We are better than Dallas...  
KingBlue : 9/14/2018 12:13 pm : link
Giants 20 - 13...
Boys 20 GMen 19  
The Turk : 9/14/2018 12:23 pm : link
4 trips to red zone equal 1 TD and 3 FGs
Eli throws for 250 yards but again no TDs and goes 2 for 12 in red zone
Flowers gets sacked on twice
Feeling Less Confident as Gameday Approaches...  
Jim in Tampa : 9/14/2018 12:23 pm : link
But I'll say Giants 20 Dallas 16.
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arcarsenal : 9/14/2018 12:25 pm : link
I am actually feeling confident about this game. I don't know why. I just think things are going to come together for us a bit. And I think we are going to get the type of win that we've been starved for.

I usually get more optimistic as game time approaches, so it might just be that. But I really don't think much of this Dallas team and the Giants are better and should win. If we lose, it's going to be a LONG season.
Last time I predicted a Giants blow out against the Cowboys  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/14/2018 12:30 pm : link
a Jon Kitna lead Cowboys beat us 33-20 where Nicks stopped on a goal line slant and it was a pick 6 for 104 yards.

Won't make that mistake again.

Giants 27
Cowboys 20
Lawrence will give fb fliwers trouble  
micky : 9/14/2018 12:31 pm : link
Cowboys 26. Giants 19

Eli pick on last drive to end chance at tying game up

Elliot out rushes god Barkley


Engram will couple more drops

Two mediocre teams on a prime time game
RE: Lawrence will give fb fliwers trouble  
micky : 9/14/2018 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14074856 micky said:
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Cowboys 26. Giants 19

Eli pick on last drive to end chance at tying game up

Elliot out rushes god Barkley


Engram will couple more drops

Two mediocre teams on a prime time game


Flowers
Whenever confidence grows  
aimrocky : 9/14/2018 12:38 pm : link
the Giants know how to throw cold water on it... I bet they lose. I'll guess 23-13.
We never make it easy  
Fred-in-Florida : 9/14/2018 12:39 pm : link
Giants 24 - 20. The OL ‘holds’ us back from ‘running’ away with this!
RE: This thread  
AcesUp : 9/14/2018 12:44 pm : link
In comment 14074803 Cap'n Bluebeard said:
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I can't tell if some of you are for real. I'm optimistic about this game, but half of you guys are making these guys look rational


I could only speak for myself but I'm more down on the Cowboys than I am high on the Giants. They've leaned on their OL the last few years and it's not what it was. Not even close if last week was any indication. They were arguably worse than the Giants line in Week 1.
I don't like this game one bit.  
GiantsUA : 9/14/2018 1:02 pm : link
I think the last team to score wins, very close.

My heart prediction - Giants 27 - Cowboys 24
Giants 27 - Cowboys 10  
giants#1 : 9/14/2018 1:21 pm : link
Cole Beasley gets 10 for 56 yards and we get a dozen threads next week discussing the Giants inability to stop slot WRs.

Beckham goes wild - 10/150/2 TDs
a blowout either way to me  
federer70 : 9/14/2018 1:30 pm : link
hard to know enough at this point, but presumably if we finally capitalize on our opportunities we should win easily - e.g., 28-10; otherwise if think we lose 28-10 if we let dak and elliot get loose and we have turnovers
Big Win!!!! Giants 44- 14  
BCD : 9/14/2018 1:46 pm : link
Saquon runs for over 200yds
rabbit 2 picks
OBJ 10 rec for 140yds

giants fans change their tune now talking SB
Giants win...  
Ed A. : 9/14/2018 1:58 pm : link
28-20. Might not be that close. Finally a breakout game.
People think..  
Dodge : 9/14/2018 2:06 pm : link
we're going to score more than 20 points? I'll believe it when I see it.
RE: People think..  
arcarsenal : 9/14/2018 2:21 pm : link
In comment 14074964 Dodge said:
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we're going to score more than 20 points? I'll believe it when I see it.


Week 15 of last season wasn't that long ago. It has only been 3 games since we haven't hit 20 and two of them were last season.

This offense has enough firepower now to put up points. It was different last year before Barkley was here, and Beckham was out for the year.

I will be really, really surprised if we can't crack 20 points on Sunday.
They are breaking 30 this week  
dep026 : 9/14/2018 2:25 pm : link
Eli goes for 275 yards and 2 TDs (one to beckham and one to Engram).
Barkley goes for 122 and a TD
We get a pick 6 on Dak... lets go with Landon Collins
lo Carter gets his first sack of his career.
We pick off Prescott 3 times.
Taco v Flowers  
UESBLUE : 9/14/2018 3:10 pm : link
23-17 girls.
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arcarsenal : 9/14/2018 3:15 pm : link
I see a lot of people pointing out who Flowers will be dealing with - which is fair. But who is covering Beckham?

Carolina just rushed for 147 yards against the Dallas D.

Who is stopping Barkley?

We have players THEY need to deal with, too. It's not Ereck Flowers against the Dallas Cowboys.
I think the game will be up for grabs until the very end  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/14/2018 3:25 pm : link
15-14 Giants win

Giants kick 5 FGs

Dallas scores two TDs

Eli drives for the GW FG with less than 2 minutes left
20-13 L  
bluepepper : 9/14/2018 3:40 pm : link
our offense still blows. OBJ, Barkley whatever, we still can't score a lot of points.
RE: .  
Dodge : 9/14/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 14075046 arcarsenal said:
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I see a lot of people pointing out who Flowers will be dealing with - which is fair. But who is covering Beckham?

Carolina just rushed for 147 yards against the Dallas D.

Who is stopping Barkley?

We have players THEY need to deal with, too. It's not Ereck Flowers against the Dallas Cowboys.


I can see Lee being a hero and winning the day.
Giants 27 - 20  
PatersonPlank : 9/14/2018 5:29 pm : link
Eli throws for 300 yds and 2 TDs
Barkley runs for 100 yards and a receiving TD
Engram gets a TD and 60 yards
Sunday Night Games versus Eagles and Dallas  
Jimmy Googs : 9/14/2018 5:42 pm : link
have been unbearable for years as our Giants/Eli have played like shit more often than not.

BUT NOT THIS YEAR BABY!

GIANTS 23
DALLAS 14
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 9/14/2018 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14075090 Dodge said:
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In comment 14075046 arcarsenal said:


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I see a lot of people pointing out who Flowers will be dealing with - which is fair. But who is covering Beckham?

Carolina just rushed for 147 yards against the Dallas D.

Who is stopping Barkley?

We have players THEY need to deal with, too. It's not Ereck Flowers against the Dallas Cowboys.



I can see Lee being a hero and winning the day.


It's possible. He's been a gigantic pain in the fucking ass forever. But Witten being gone gives me a glimmer of hope.
Giants 31, Cows 20  
mrvax : 9/14/2018 7:11 pm : link
Barkley plays well behind one of the worst Olines in the NFL. So glad we picked this young man.
Cowboys 20  
Les in TO : 9/14/2018 9:42 pm : link
Giants 19. Last second field goal
Big Blue 30 Pokes 12  
trueblueinpw : 9/15/2018 12:38 am : link
-Dak is benched
-Barks with 2 TDs
-OV with 2.5 sacks
RE: .  
FStubbs : 9/15/2018 7:15 am : link
In comment 14075046 arcarsenal said:
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I see a lot of people pointing out who Flowers will be dealing with - which is fair. But who is covering Beckham?

Carolina just rushed for 147 yards against the Dallas D.

Who is stopping Barkley?

We have players THEY need to deal with, too. It's not Ereck Flowers against the Dallas Cowboys.


Carolina's offensive line as a unit is much better than ours.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 9/15/2018 9:08 am : link
In comment 14075425 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14075046 arcarsenal said:


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I see a lot of people pointing out who Flowers will be dealing with - which is fair. But who is covering Beckham?

Carolina just rushed for 147 yards against the Dallas D.

Who is stopping Barkley?

We have players THEY need to deal with, too. It's not Ereck Flowers against the Dallas Cowboys.



Carolina's offensive line as a unit is much better than ours.


What does that have to do with Beckham or Barkley?
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arcarsenal : 9/15/2018 9:10 am : link
Sorry, I thought that said defensive line. I haven't had coffee yet.

In any event. It has been one game. I don't think we know that Carolina's offensive line is "much better" than ours or how good anyone really is after one week. They scored 16 points. We scored 15. We also played against a much better defense.
So far, I count 46 predictions...  
M.S. : 9/15/2018 9:23 am : link

...34 predict Giants victory; 12 predict Dallas victory.

Median Giants point total = 23; Dallas = 17

Considering Dallas is favored by 3 points, maybe there's just a little Giants bias on BBI... just a little. (:-)

Based on the past 20 years of playing in Dallas, one pattern emerges in sharp relief: the Giants need to score 20 or more points to win!

Dallas at 0-1 in front of their hometown fans against a division rival is going to cause lots of problems. Tell me ahead of time how our o-line performs (especially Ereck Flowers)Sunday night, and I'll tell you who will win this ballgame.
RE: So far, I count 46 predictions...  
Jimmy Googs : 9/15/2018 9:30 am : link
In comment 14075453 M.S. said:
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Based on the past 20 years of playing in Dallas, one pattern emerges in sharp relief: the Giants need to score 20 or more points to win!



Scoring points is typically not an issue for this team...
This one will not be close  
weaverpsu : 9/15/2018 5:22 pm : link
Giants win 30-13.
Eli goes for 310 yards, 3 TD's
Saquon gets 119 yards on 22 carries and another TD
Defense causes 3 turnovers
Zeke loses his cool and starts barking at everyone
Total Domination in Jerry's world!
RE: RE: .  
Strahan91 : 9/15/2018 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14075425 FStubbs said:
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In comment 14075046 arcarsenal said:


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I see a lot of people pointing out who Flowers will be dealing with - which is fair. But who is covering Beckham?

Carolina just rushed for 147 yards against the Dallas D.

Who is stopping Barkley?

We have players THEY need to deal with, too. It's not Ereck Flowers against the Dallas Cowboys.



Carolina's offensive line as a unit is much better than ours.


Disagree with this. Williams played for 3 quarters in the game but he wasn’t fully healthy. Below is from PFF’s post week 1 OL rankings. Carolina came in dead last in the NFL. They were far better than the Giants last year with Norwell but they weren’t good either. Flowers stinks and as a unit they didn’t play well in week 1 but should improve with each game and Jax’s DL is still the best in the game.

Starting Lineup:

Left Tackle: Taylor Moton, 69.3
Left Guard: Greg Van Roten, 48.3
Center: Ryan Kalil, 53.7
Right Guard: Trai Turner, 67.0
Right Tackle: Amini Silatolu, 48.3

Let’s say a prayer for Cam Newton. Both the Panthers starting tackles are now on injured reserve and while last year’s second-round pick in Moton should be able to fill in competently on the left side, they are in dire straits on the right side. Silatolu had a 35.6 pass-blocking grade at guard a season ago and now they have him playing tackle. That’s a combination for disaster.
I like Shurmur's  
section125 : 9/16/2018 6:33 am : link
play calling and he seems to plan well. This team makes half time adjustments on both sides of the ball. Garrett will not out coach Shurmur.

Giants 27
Cowboys 13

Eli 22/32 285 yds 2 TDs
Barkley 118 yd 1 TD
Odell 8 for 148 yds 2 TDs
Unlike lots of other people, I don't love the matchup for our defense.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 9/16/2018 7:13 am : link
I think the Cowboys can do the things the Jags did well last week better even with their limited WR personnel. Dak is better than Bortles. The Jags had success making the Giants defend sideline to sideline with bootlegs, run options, drag patterns, crossing patterns, RPOs, passes to RBs, and running off tackle. While JackRabbit and Eli Apple might have advantages outside, Cole Beasley is still in the slot and his entire purpose is to create and convert manageable third downs. I think we're going to give up some points and consequently, will have to score 24+ points to win.

I'm very interested to see how the Cowgirls defend the Giants. Will they repeat the same things they did most of the McAdoo era... prevent Odell deep passes and keep everything in front of them? One reason that worked is because they never had to respect the Giants running game. I think Barkley needs to be a major focus for the Giants, even if it's constant play action to slow down the pass rush. After last week, I'm more confident that Shurmer's offensive can get Odell free even if the opponent is playing conservative zones in the secondary. Needless to say the offensive line has to be at least competitive tonight. I also want to see Engram make some plays without the Jags' great coverage LBs out there.

I REALLY hope Eli has a big game because people are talking about him like a fucking dog now. It's so disrespectful.

Unfortunately, I think the Giants come up a bit short. I hope I'm very wrong. 'Pokes - 24, G-Men - 21
RE: Unlike lots of other people, I don't love the matchup for our defense.  
section125 : 9/16/2018 7:26 am : link
In comment 14075921 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I think the Cowboys can do the things the Jags did well last week better even with their limited WR personnel. Dak is better than Bortles.
Unfortunately, I think the Giants come up a bit short. I hope I'm very wrong. 'Pokes - 24, G-Men - 21


Keep underestimating Bortles and over estimating Dak....
Giants 31, Cowboys 23  
mfsd : 9/16/2018 7:30 am : link
Offense finally scores 30!!!
Lack of giant pass rush keeps it close...  
x meadowlander : 9/16/2018 7:51 am : link
Giants 24, Cowboys 21
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