for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

ElI plays scared

I Love Clams Casino : 9/16/2018 11:16 pm
The game has passed him by...no QBs get a nice clean pocket with the state of NFL offensive lines today. He can't spin out of pressures. This team does not win, except by accident with Eli in there. The game has passed him by...he's too old.

Sorry but it's true.....
Pages: 1 2 | Show All |  Next>>
He’s washed up  
Josh in the City : 9/16/2018 11:17 pm : link
Time to put in our rookie QB, Sam Darno....oh wait
RE: He’s washed up  
KWhite2250 : 9/16/2018 11:18 pm : link
In comment 14079376 Josh in the City said:
Quote:
Time to put in our rookie QB, Sam Darno....oh wait


How does sams cock taste?
But that Eagles game last year  
Sean : 9/16/2018 11:18 pm : link
.
may be  
BleedBlue : 9/16/2018 11:18 pm : link
too old and maybe plays scared, but do you blame him on the scared? his OL is filled with fucking swinging gates
dallas had free rushers pretty regularly...

i agree he is on his way out, but geez this OL is REALLY bad.

I get other qbs improvise. but watching mahomes today, he had a VERY clean pocket most of the day
RE: RE: He’s washed up  
Josh in the City : 9/16/2018 11:18 pm : link
In comment 14079380 KWhite2250 said:
Quote:
In comment 14079376 Josh in the City said:


Quote:


Time to put in our rookie QB, Sam Darno....oh wait



How does sams cock taste?


How does Eli’s?
RE: RE: RE: He’s washed up  
PatersonPlank : 9/16/2018 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14079389 Josh in the City said:
Quote:
In comment 14079380 KWhite2250 said:


Quote:


In comment 14079376 Josh in the City said:


Quote:


Time to put in our rookie QB, Sam Darno....oh wait



How does sams cock taste?



How does Eli’s?


Darnold wouldn't have made any difference, and it would have likely been worse. Stop just beating the Darnold drum over, and over, and over. Will this go on every game? If he gets 2 picks per game on the Jets, here he'd get 4.
They can turn to the immortal  
lax counsel : 9/16/2018 11:20 pm : link
Rhett Bhomar...err...Ryan Nassib...err.. Davis Webb... Kyle Lauletta, that’s it he’s the next great Giants mid round qb.
RE: He’s washed up  
Toth029 : 9/16/2018 11:21 pm : link
In comment 14079376 Josh in the City said:
Quote:
Time to put in our rookie QB, Sam Darno....oh wait

12 points against a bad Dolphins team.

Who cares?
RE: RE: RE: He’s washed up  
KWhite2250 : 9/16/2018 11:22 pm : link
In comment 14079389 Josh in the City said:
Quote:
In comment 14079380 KWhite2250 said:


Quote:


In comment 14079376 Josh in the City said:


Quote:


Time to put in our rookie QB, Sam Darno....oh wait



How does sams cock taste?



How does Eli’s?


Who cares? Im not the one clearly obsessed over another man. Every single post from you is about sam darnold. What attracts you to him? His square head or his great hair?
DG and Shurm didn’t come to this same conclusion  
The_Boss : 9/16/2018 11:22 pm : link
It is concerning to say the least. Especially when every decision this spring centered around going all in on Eli. How is it we could decipher he isn’t good enough and the paid professionals don’t? Unless they said what Mara wanted to hear to gain employment?
Yeah. At least Mara  
St. Jimmy : 9/16/2018 11:22 pm : link
knows what he is doing.
Eli..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/16/2018 11:24 pm : link
should be scared.

His OL can't pick up simple stunts and gave up pressure after pressure.

The only time Eli had a clean pocket was the first drive of the game and the final drive.

The rest of the time, he's making a split-second decision before a guy breaks free to sack him
six sacks a bunch of hits  
bc4life : 9/16/2018 11:24 pm : link
no run blocking - wtf do you expect?
RE: DG and Shurm didn’t come to this same conclusion  
St. Jimmy : 9/16/2018 11:25 pm : link
In comment 14079427 The_Boss said:
Quote:
It is concerning to say the least. Especially when every decision this spring centered around going all in on Eli. How is it we could decipher he isn’t good enough and the paid professionals don’t? Unless they said what Mara wanted to hear to gain employment?
It is ownership. They told them what they wanted to hear. I cannot believe how poorly Mara has handled the last year.
If you watched the game and think Eli...  
PBMedia : 9/16/2018 11:26 pm : link
is the problem, you have no grasp of the game of football.
RE: Eli..  
PetesHereNow : 9/16/2018 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14079445 FatMan in Charlotte said:
Quote:
should be scared.

His OL can't pick up simple stunts and gave up pressure after pressure.

The only time Eli had a clean pocket was the first drive of the game and the final drive.

The rest of the time, he's making a split-second decision before a guy breaks free to sack him


We should clone you this week because the rest of this website thinks that if Eli was just elusive, he could spin away from free rushers every play.
RE: Eli..  
DavidinBMNY : 9/16/2018 11:28 pm : link
In comment 14079445 FatMan in Charlotte said:
Quote:
should be scared.

His OL can't pick up simple stunts and gave up pressure after pressure.

The only time Eli had a clean pocket was the first drive of the game and the final drive.

The rest of the time, he's making a split-second decision before a guy breaks free to sack him
Agreed.
RE: If you watched the game and think Eli...  
KWhite2250 : 9/16/2018 11:29 pm : link
In comment 14079469 PBMedia said:
Quote:
is the problem, you have no grasp of the game of football.


I think him not being mobile is a huge problem with this line. NFL has changed. Oline play is shitty and qbs are more mobile now. Love eli but its over. They have to move on

But jfc, the Darnold stuff is going to become aggravating. Makes me want to root against him so the miserable fucks here who are slobbering over him can stfu
RE: If you watched the game and think Eli...  
DavidinBMNY : 9/16/2018 11:29 pm : link
In comment 14079469 PBMedia said:
Quote:
is the problem, you have no grasp of the game of football.
The problem in the first 2 games, we can't pass protect and we can't 0ass rush.

RE: If you watched the game and think Eli...  
twostepgiants : 9/16/2018 11:29 pm : link
In comment 14079469 PBMedia said:
Quote:
is the problem, you have no grasp of the game of football.


Hasnt that been the same exact response for the last 6 years now?

With an entirely different offense, entirely different coaching staff?
RE: If you watched the game and think Eli...  
The_Boss : 9/16/2018 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14079469 PBMedia said:
Quote:
is the problem, you have no grasp of the game of football.


He’s a major reason why this team struggles to crack 20 points. Yes the OL is shit but he had guys open down field that he didn’t see, even with time. He felt imaginary pressure and dumped it off too quick. Papa and Banks said it a few times tonight on the call. It’s hard for people to come to grips with reality. And reality is, Eli is finished.
I don't know how anyone can watch the game  
joeinpa : 9/16/2018 11:33 pm : link
and declare unequivocally that Eli doesn't share some of the blame.
He is shot  
Joey in VA : 9/16/2018 11:34 pm : link
Has been for three years. This isn't news for anyone with eyes and a shred of football acumen which isn't many here. We are held hostage by public opinion and John Mara's need to placate the Manning family. It's about money, not winning, not until the old man retires and lets the franchise free of his financial hold on them and their sponsors. It's always about the money.
RE: RE: If you watched the game and think Eli...  
nyballa0891 : 9/16/2018 11:35 pm : link
In comment 14079516 The_Boss said:
Quote:
In comment 14079469 PBMedia said:


Quote:


is the problem, you have no grasp of the game of football.



He’s a major reason why this team struggles to crack 20 points. Yes the OL is shit but he had guys open down field that he didn’t see, even with time. He felt imaginary pressure and dumped it off too quick. Papa and Banks said it a few times tonight on the call. It’s hard for people to come to grips with reality. And reality is, Eli is finished.


Agree, its almost like he cant diagnose defenses anymore..on blitzes he fails to make teams pay..there were plenty of open guys he just never saw tonight
RE: RE: If you watched the game and think Eli...  
PetesHereNow : 9/16/2018 11:35 pm : link
In comment 14079500 twostepgiants said:
Quote:
In comment 14079469 PBMedia said:


Quote:


is the problem, you have no grasp of the game of football.



Hasnt that been the same exact response for the last 6 years now?

With an entirely different offense, entirely different coaching staff?


It doesn’t matter if it’s a different offense or not. If your line can’t block a simple stunt of four or five rushers, you are screwed. If you can’t run the ball, you are screwed. Our big guys up front are the problem. The good thing is a lot of it is mental and getting to play together and communicate, so they should go from downright shitty to sorta shitty.
I'd love to hear  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/16/2018 11:35 pm : link
how we win this game or look good on offense if Tom Brady were under center tonight for us instead of Eli.

How is he suddenly getting our run-blocking for our RBs to be better than 14 times for 31 yards (2.2 ypc)?

How is Brady getting our offensive line to block 4-man rushes, or stunts, or blitzes, or well, anything?
RE: He is shot  
PetesHereNow : 9/16/2018 11:38 pm : link
In comment 14079548 Joey in VA said:
Quote:
Has been for three years. This isn't news for anyone with eyes and a shred of football acumen which isn't many here. We are held hostage by public opinion and John Mara's need to placate the Manning family. It's about money, not winning, not until the old man retires and lets the franchise free of his financial hold on them and their sponsors. It's always about the money.


Yes our billionaire owner is that beholden to the Mannings. Is this Game of Thrones?
All this talk about the state of OL play in the league  
mako J : 9/16/2018 11:39 pm : link
Wish the Giants pass rushers would start benefiting.

Do we run stunts too? Apparently, that's all it takes.
He checked down the whole night  
Jimmy Googs : 9/16/2018 11:39 pm : link
Until the night was over.

Some of you guys are simply on drugs...he’s done.
The state of the offensive line isn't going to change  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/16/2018 11:40 pm : link
If the coaching staff couldn't adjust, or the players couldn't adjust by 1/2 way through the first quarter, then they aren't capable of making adjustments. They realize they're losing, although it doesn't look like they do, but they're powerless to do a fucking thing....they just keep getting beat, play after fucking play. Now Eli is not going to come out, ever, unless he gets hurt, and Eli will never let Eli get hurt. I don't see a way out of this. Shit, I am dumbfounded......I can not fucking believe this.....this team is so fucked.
RE: I'd love to hear  
nyballa0891 : 9/16/2018 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14079562 PaulBlakeTSU said:
Quote:
how we win this game or look good on offense if Tom Brady were under center tonight for us instead of Eli.

How is he suddenly getting our run-blocking for our RBs to be better than 14 times for 31 yards (2.2 ypc)?

How is Brady getting our offensive line to block 4-man rushes, or stunts, or blitzes, or well, anything?


By making better decisions with the ball..running game
opens up the pass and vice versa.
RE: RE: I'd love to hear  
PetesHereNow : 9/16/2018 11:42 pm : link
In comment 14079595 nyballa0891 said:
Quote:
In comment 14079562 PaulBlakeTSU said:


Quote:


how we win this game or look good on offense if Tom Brady were under center tonight for us instead of Eli.

How is he suddenly getting our run-blocking for our RBs to be better than 14 times for 31 yards (2.2 ypc)?

How is Brady getting our offensive line to block 4-man rushes, or stunts, or blitzes, or well, anything?



By making better decisions with the ball..running game
opens up the pass and vice versa.


Kinda hard to make better decisions where there are defenders up your ass every play.
RE: If you watched the game and think Eli...  
twostepgiants : 9/16/2018 11:44 pm : link
In comment 14079469 PBMedia said:
Quote:
is the problem, you have no grasp of the game of football.


Hasnt that been the same exact response for the last 6 years now?

With an entirely different offense, entirely different coaching staff?
It's not mutually exclusive  
AcesUp : 9/16/2018 11:45 pm : link
Eli and the OL can both sucks. It doesn't have to be either or. If you objectively look at the state of our offense, that's probably what's going on right now.
Eli plays scared???  
BillKo : 9/16/2018 11:46 pm : link
...to me, this offensive line plays scared.

They can't even handle simple stunts.

I have to believe this is the worst OL in the league right now.

Perhaps there are some lines that are worse, but they might have a more mobile QB - but not effective thrower - that at least take some of the burden off their OL but in the end suffer from the same lack of offensive production.

Eli Manning can still throw the ball.......he needs time to look thru his progressions and it's simply not there right now.

Defensive players are either on him, collapsing the pocket, or at his feet and he just can't play that way.
RE: RE: RE: I'd love to hear  
nyballa0891 : 9/16/2018 11:49 pm : link
In comment 14079608 PetesHereNow said:
Quote:
In comment 14079595 nyballa0891 said:


Quote:


In comment 14079562 PaulBlakeTSU said:


Quote:


how we win this game or look good on offense if Tom Brady were under center tonight for us instead of Eli.

How is he suddenly getting our run-blocking for our RBs to be better than 14 times for 31 yards (2.2 ypc)?

How is Brady getting our offensive line to block 4-man rushes, or stunts, or blitzes, or well, anything?



By making better decisions with the ball..running game
opens up the pass and vice versa.



Kinda hard to make better decisions where there are defenders up your ass every play.


I dont disagree, but good qbs make it happen. Eli cant make that happen anymore
Elis run backwards sacks  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/16/2018 11:50 pm : link
are unacceptable. He doesn't have thE athletism to do anything but run backwards? Yes, I realize guys are running free, I get it, but I've seen plenty of QBs spin out of the same pressures. Hell I watched Webb do it in the pre season.

I'm not convinced the Giants have the worst line in the league, i'm just not....this is starting to look more and more like Eli is the issue. If he had nice clean pockets on every play, then he's one of the leagues best. Without it, he's one of the leagues worst, and not every QB would be in the same situation. After this year, I say our debt to Eli is paid. This shit has to absolutely stop after this year......
Lets clear up a couple of things.  
KWALL2 : 9/16/2018 11:51 pm : link
1. The Dolphins defense is actually very good especially at DB. No surprise any rookie QB had issues in vs this defense.

2. Give Josh some time to reply. It's not easy with Darnold's balls bouncing on his chin right now.
You cannot see the forest thru trees. Yes the Oline sucks  
Jimmy Googs : 9/16/2018 11:51 pm : link
because they know what happens when they bring simple pressure. Either they will fail or Eli will panic.

Either way they win and we score less than 15 per game

This is a waste of time....
Arizona's..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/16/2018 11:51 pm : link
OL is shit right now, and Bradford looks terrible. The Texans OL is bad and Watson is scrambling for his life. The Lions OL is really bad and Stafford looks really bad too.

You can see the domino effect if you look closely, or even just fucking look at all.
Yes the O Line sucked, but you have to admit...  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/16/2018 11:52 pm : link
...that Eli left a lot of plays on the field in the first half.
RE: Yes the O Line sucked, but you have to admit...  
BillKo : 9/16/2018 11:54 pm : link
In comment 14079676 sb from NYT Forum said:
Quote:
...that Eli left a lot of plays on the field in the first half.


Such as?
RE: Yes the O Line sucked, but you have to admit...  
PetesHereNow : 9/16/2018 11:55 pm : link
In comment 14079676 sb from NYT Forum said:
Quote:
...that Eli left a lot of plays on the field in the first half.


Can someone please show me these plays Eli left on the field?
Domino?  
Jimmy Googs : 9/16/2018 11:55 pm : link
You’re digging a stupid grave in this one. Eli is done and we waste another year Domino boy in Charlotte
FMIC  
KWALL2 : 9/16/2018 11:56 pm : link
Today?

Watson and Stafford didn't look so bad.

Not really a good comp for Eli.

We have more talent at the skill positions than DET and HOU. A lot more talent.
RE: RE: Yes the O Line sucked, but you have to admit...  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/16/2018 11:59 pm : link
In comment 14079687 BillKo said:
Quote:
In comment 14079676 sb from NYT Forum said:


Quote:


...that Eli left a lot of plays on the field in the first half.



Such as?


Don't make me go back and rewatch this horror show, but it's true.

You don't remember Eli throwing the ball 4 feet short at Barkley feet early in the game? With ZERO pressure on him?
RE: Domino?  
PetesHereNow : 9/16/2018 11:59 pm : link
In comment 14079691 Jimmy Googs said:
Quote:
You’re digging a stupid grave in this one. Eli is done and we waste another year Domino boy in Charlotte


Ok assume Eli is done. Assume Giants draft Darnold instead of Barkley at 2. Darnold would be halfway to David Carr status by now, too.

If their big guys kick our big guys’ ass in the run and the pass, NO ONE is succeeding at any meaningful level.
RE: RE: RE: Yes the O Line sucked, but you have to admit...  
PetesHereNow : 9/17/2018 12:01 am : link
In comment 14079707 I Love Clams Casino said:
Quote:
In comment 14079687 BillKo said:


Quote:


In comment 14079676 sb from NYT Forum said:


Quote:


...that Eli left a lot of plays on the field in the first half.



Such as?



Don't make me go back and rewatch this horror show, but it's true.

You don't remember Eli throwing the ball 4 feet short at Barkley feet early in the game? With ZERO pressure on him?


If we’re talking about the same play, there was pressure and Barkley was about to get lit up if the pass was accurate
1st quarter  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/17/2018 12:02 am : link
12:45 on the clock.2nd and 4...Eli throws a complete duck to Beckham, that looks like my freakin grandmother threw it....no pressure on Eli, clean pocket
RE: RE: Yes the O Line sucked, but you have to admit...  
The_Boss : 9/17/2018 12:03 am : link
In comment 14079687 BillKo said:
Quote:
In comment 14079676 sb from NYT Forum said:


Quote:


...that Eli left a lot of plays on the field in the first half.



Such as?


Shep on a 7 route where he forced it to Odell well short of the first and later had Beckham wide fucking open in the end zone when he checked down. There were others. Papa and Banks were saying it all night on the broadcast.
Pages: 1 2 | Show All |  Next>>
Back to the Corner