for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

Giants will not get rid of eli until he retires

nygiants16 : 9/16/2018 11:30 pm
i had no problem withe the Barkley pick but i still wanted them to move on from eli.

Giants will never get rid of him until he retires because mara got shit for the benching. he does not want the backlash.
"We can make that happen"  
j_rud : 9/16/2018 11:31 pm : link
-the OL
highly doubt that  
Vanzetti : 9/16/2018 11:32 pm : link
Eli will be gone next year if he does not play better

and if he has a few more games like today, he will be benched

The fans should be embarrassed..  
Sean : 9/16/2018 11:32 pm : link
for how they acted last year.
RE: highly doubt that  
nygiants16 : 9/16/2018 11:34 pm : link
In comment 14079523 Vanzetti said:
Quote:
Eli will be gone next year if he does not play better

and if he has a few more games like today, he will be benched


no chance will he be benched...

benching him last year was the right decision yet fans crucified the giants
RE: The fans should be embarrassed..  
Tesla : 9/16/2018 11:34 pm : link
In comment 14079524 Sean said:
Quote:
for how they acted last year.


Fans can act anyway they want....it should have no bearing on an org's decisions. The problem was Mara's reaction to the fan outcry when Eli was benched.
RE: The fans should be embarrassed..  
jcn56 : 9/16/2018 11:34 pm : link
In comment 14079524 Sean said:
Quote:
for how they acted last year.


Eli doesn't escape scrutiny from that one either. He could have helped diffuse the situation and chose not to.
You really believe  
joeinpa : 9/16/2018 11:34 pm : link
Giants passed on a quarterback because Mara was afraid of fan backlash had they taken one in the draft.

I heard Cowherd say this the other day, is this a valid story? If so, it is disturbing on so many levels.
and just to be clear  
Vanzetti : 9/16/2018 11:35 pm : link
I am an Eli supporter. But he has to play better. Cowboys blitzed almost every play in the second and third quarters and Eli did not make them pay once

Shurmur's gameplan was obviously shit and did not play to Eli's strength. But Eli is part of the problem, along with the OL and other things.
If we are picking,  
Doomster : 9/16/2018 11:36 pm : link
in the top 3 next year, yes it is possible, if you have losing seasons 5 out of the last 6 years....

I think the Eli backlash is overblown.....this offense scored 10 points in garbage time at the end of the game while trailing 20-3......
After  
AcidTest : 9/16/2018 11:36 pm : link
last year, I would have thought it was impossible that Eli would ever be benched again. Now, I'm not so sure. I do agree that if he's benched again, his time with the Giants is over. But it may also be moot, because I'm even less sure that he won't get hurt from all these beatings.
RE: RE: highly doubt that  
Vanzetti : 9/16/2018 11:38 pm : link
In comment 14079537 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
In comment 14079523 Vanzetti said:


Quote:


Eli will be gone next year if he does not play better

and if he has a few more games like today, he will be benched




no chance will he be benched...

benching him last year was the right decision yet fans crucified the giants


Big difference between this year and last year. Season was already gone and Webb was obviously not the answer. So there was nothing to be gained by benching him. Mac did it out of peevishness

This regime obviously likes Lauletta and cutting Eli after the season will be much less of a cap hit than last year.

I know as fans we are jaded at this point, but Eli got his get of jail free card last year. It won't happen again.
Eli has entered late career YA Title territory  
arniefez : 9/16/2018 11:39 pm : link
Who do you want to bench him for the the 31 years old who has been on 8 teams and played 1 game in the NFL or the D1-AA kid with the pop gun arm?
Should of  
Mike Graves : 9/16/2018 11:40 pm : link
Moved on and people think has has 3 or 4 years left smh he’s been awful since 2016 it’s not all the offensive line
RE: You really believe  
Sean : 9/16/2018 11:43 pm : link
In comment 14079549 joeinpa said:
Quote:
Giants passed on a quarterback because Mara was afraid of fan backlash had they taken one in the draft.

I heard Cowherd say this the other day, is this a valid story? If so, it is disturbing on so many levels.


Of course. Everyone was on board including Mara. Eli made the situation bigger than it was & the fans bought billboards bashing the franchise
RE: The fans should be embarrassed..  
BestFeature : 9/16/2018 11:43 pm : link
In comment 14079524 Sean said:
Quote:
for how they acted last year.


Half of this fan base are mouth breathers frankly.
RE: Should of  
Eman11 : 9/16/2018 11:44 pm : link
In comment 14079596 Mike Graves said:
Quote:
Moved on and people think has has 3 or 4 years left smh he’s been awful since 2016 it’s not all the offensive line


Yeah he was awful leading them to the playoffs in 16 and especially in the playoff game at Green Bay. 🙄
RE: RE: The fans should be embarrassed..  
BestFeature : 9/16/2018 11:45 pm : link
In comment 14079539 Tesla said:
Quote:
In comment 14079524 Sean said:


Quote:


for how they acted last year.



Fans can act anyway they want....it should have no bearing on an org's decisions. The problem was Mara's reaction to the fan outcry when Eli was benched.


The fact that possibly the worst coach in Giants history was fired only because he sat his scrub QB because a bunch of mouth breathers complained tells you everything you need to know about our ownership.
RE: You really believe  
nygiants16 : 9/16/2018 11:45 pm : link
In comment 14079549 joeinpa said:
Quote:
Giants passed on a quarterback because Mara was afraid of fan backlash had they taken one in the draft.

I heard Cowherd say this the other day, is this a valid story? If so, it is disturbing on so many levels.


i dknt think they passed on a qb because of eli, k think they passed because they were comingnoff of a shit year and didnt want to miss on the pick..

they took the safest pick in the draft
Mara read the fan outrage over benching Eli for  
St. Jimmy : 9/16/2018 11:49 pm : link
Geno Smith about as well as I would read the writing on a flying saucer that crashed into my backyar.*

*Not a flying saucer made by the US Government.
RE: RE: You really believe  
Vanzetti : 9/16/2018 11:58 pm : link
In comment 14079631 nygiants16 said:
Quote:
In comment 14079549 joeinpa said:


Quote:


Giants passed on a quarterback because Mara was afraid of fan backlash had they taken one in the draft.

I heard Cowherd say this the other day, is this a valid story? If so, it is disturbing on so many levels.



i dknt think they passed on a qb because of eli, k think they passed because they were comingnoff of a shit year and didnt want to miss on the pick..

they took the safest pick in the draft


That's an interesting take.
Bench Eli  
NikkiMac : 9/17/2018 12:09 am : link
for who ? Tanney, Lauletta ?

Those guys are going nowhere Lauletta and his canon for an arm is not the answer
It was too expensive to cut Eli this year  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/17/2018 12:16 am : link
According to over the cap his cap savings will be $17 mil with $6.2 mil in dead 💰. The dead money this year would have been$17 mil. They prob couldn't have resigned OBJ if they cut Eli this year. I wouldn't be shocked if they cut Eli during the off-season
Eli did not lead us to the POs in 2016  
Giants34 : 9/17/2018 12:16 am : link
Our D did. By the end of the year, we were winning games 10-7 (Dallas), 13-10 (Washington), etc. We have not scored 30 points in so long, it's bordering on ridiculous. Our offense continues to look pitiful. And while we have one of the best RBs in the league, we will continue to royally stink because our OL and QB are terrible now.

We passed on a QB in a QB rich draft, and like I said then and I repeat now, we will pay for that for possibly the next decade or two. And I don't know why we ultimately did. Is it because DSG thinks it's 1968? Is he an Eli apologist? Is he old enough that he cares about winning now rather than the future? Were the owners scared of the backlash of picking a QB? All of the above?

What I do know is that DSG flaunts his rejection of analytics, which is something the most successful teams use to their advantage. So I do know that he is not cut out for this job.

Remember when everyone was criticizing others for voicing their displeasure with the decision to pass on a QB, saying sure you know more than a GM? DSG doesn't look too smart anymore, does he? We are going to rue the day we passed on Darnold, which is something many other football people (Aikman, Collinsworth, etc.) have stated. But our awful GM doomed us for years.
If you are blaming this on Eli  
The 12th Man : 9/17/2018 12:26 am : link
You must be on crack. The talk all throughout this game and after on radio and tv is the OL not being able to pick simple stunts that you are taught in high school. Eli can not throw the ball when he is either being sacked or running for his life. I am looking forward to hearing you when the next QB does put on a Giants uniform. Eli is not the problem, Eli’s protection is.
RE: If you are blaming this on Eli  
Giants34 : 9/17/2018 12:29 am : link
In comment 14079838 The 12th Man said:
Quote:
You must be on crack. The talk all throughout this game and after on radio and tv is the OL not being able to pick simple stunts that you are taught in high school. Eli can not throw the ball when he is either being sacked or running for his life. I am looking forward to hearing you when the next QB does put on a Giants uniform. Eli is not the problem, Eli’s protection is.


Eli is part of the problem. You are on drugs if you think otherwise. The OL is the main problem, yes, but Eli is not making the right reads, and he's probably gun shy at this point so all he does is check it down. We have one of the best weapons in ODB, and we can't even find ways to get him involved in the game. It's sickening to watch.
You guys. Sure the Giants organization wants to treat the QB who  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 9/17/2018 12:59 am : link
got them two championships with dignity. Not hurt his feelings.

But the NFL is a business and success or failure of this franchise means millions of dollars.

Eli was well-paid, and he'll be in the Circle of Honor or whatever, but from now on it's all about turning the franchise into a winner again.
Back to the Corner