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Won't the real Eli Manning please stand up?

Jalapeno : 9/16/2018 11:48 pm
Oh.
Wait.
He can't.

Because he has not had an offensive line that has allowed him to remain upright or allowed him to think in the pocket for more than .03 seconds for at least 10 seasons now.

The people hating and blaming Eli tonight, last week, last season, and even the last 5 years can seriously go F themselves.

Especially the ones who found pleasure in seeing him get nailed over and over on the Game Thread tonight.

Fuck you.

Go lay down.

/Venting session.

Thank you.



There’s too much truth in this post...  
OBJ_AllDay : 9/16/2018 11:50 pm : link
Now let’s hear from the jackasses who have never played the sport...
There was one idiot who thought it was comical that Eli  
jcn56 : 9/16/2018 11:51 pm : link
got nailed, pretty sure it was limited to him.

The rest who want to see Eli move on just realize his best football is behind him. There's no ill will toward him, and plenty of gratitude for what he's done - but there's no evidence over the past few years despite different systems and personnel that Eli is capable of playing behind anything but an impenetrable wall of an OL, which the Giants won't have time to build before he hangs them up if they even were capable of doing so in the first place.
He might trip over his own feet  
Vanzetti : 9/16/2018 11:54 pm : link
if he tries to stand up
Call me Paulie-Anna  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/16/2018 11:55 pm : link
but all these OL problems are communications related and are fixable, to a point, this year..

This team can be very potent, Cowboys got away with a lot of arm bars and holding

we could be 0-4 before this shit clicks, at least we have a captain and the ship is sailing in the right direction. besides Eli, this team is young.

be patient

DG need minimum 2 more off-seasons to fix all of the Reese mess
RE: There’s too much truth in this post...  
montanagiant : 9/16/2018 11:56 pm : link
In comment 14079663 OBJ_AllDay said:
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Now let’s hear from the jackasses who have never played the sport...

Oh shit, we have an Internet football superstar here...LMAO

"yeah, I won my Madden 2017 league so I fucking played!!"
RE: Call me Paulie-Anna  
BleedBlue : 9/16/2018 11:56 pm : link
In comment 14079690 Paulie Walnuts said:
Quote:
but all these OL problems are communications related and are fixable, to a point, this year..

This team can be very potent, Cowboys got away with a lot of arm bars and holding

we could be 0-4 before this shit clicks, at least we have a captain and the ship is sailing in the right direction. besides Eli, this team is young.

be patient

DG need minimum 2 more off-seasons to fix all of the Reese mess


+1 our lofty expectations and giants blinders caused us to believe we would be good thids year....we are rebuilding a pretty bad mess....30/53 are new. thats HUGE turnover
RE: Call me Paulie-Anna  
montanagiant : 9/16/2018 11:56 pm : link
In comment 14079690 Paulie Walnuts said:
Quote:
but all these OL problems are communications related and are fixable, to a point, this year..

This team can be very potent, Cowboys got away with a lot of arm bars and holding

we could be 0-4 before this shit clicks, at least we have a captain and the ship is sailing in the right direction. besides Eli, this team is young.

be patient

DG need minimum 2 more off-seasons to fix all of the Reese mess

Good post
My take on Eli remains the same  
BlackLight : 9/16/2018 11:58 pm : link
There's nothing wrong with him at age 37 that hasn't pretty much been what's been wrong with him since 2004.

Drafting Darnold or trading down to get another lineman would change virtually nothing about the situation we're in right now. I think folks have a tough time accepting that Gettleman and Shurmur have more than a one year rebuild in front of them. The OL, especially, was always going to take time to sort itself out.
RE: Call me Paulie-Anna  
kennyd : 9/16/2018 11:58 pm : link
In comment 14079690 Paulie Walnuts said:
Quote:
but all these OL problems are communications related and are fixable, to a point, this year..

This team can be very potent, Cowboys got away with a lot of arm bars and holding

we could be 0-4 before this shit clicks, at least we have a captain and the ship is sailing in the right direction. besides Eli, this team is young.

be patient

DG need minimum 2 more off-seasons to fix all of the Reese mess


Now don't start getting all logical, I read here that Eli can no longer tie his shoes. This place is ridiculous.
don't know about two seasons  
bc4life : 9/16/2018 11:59 pm : link
a good right tackle would make a big difference.

and you want Vernon & Carter rushing - w/Barwin spelling them nit him a a starter with Martin on the opposite side.
Who found pleasure in him getting hit?  
j_rud : 9/17/2018 12:00 am : link
One person, ONE, typed "lol" after a sack. And im guessing it was more of an exasperated response than actual enjoyment.

Stop being so damn sensitive. Eli doesnt need you to defend his honor. Ya know, its possible to love Eli and the things hes done throughout his career and still be objective when watching these games. Is it the OLs fault he's reading the field poorly and missing receivers?
RE: There was one idiot who thought it was comical that Eli  
jogo1 : 9/17/2018 12:00 am : link
In comment 14079669 jcn56 said:
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got nailed, pretty sure it was limited to him.

The rest who want to see Eli move on just realize his best football is behind him. There's no ill will toward him, and plenty of gratitude for what he's done - but there's no evidence over the past few years despite different systems and personnel that Eli is capable of playing behind anything but an impenetrable wall of an OL, which the Giants won't have time to build before he hangs them up if they even were capable of doing so in the first place.


No ill will towards him? Not the feeling I get from 2/3 the posts on BBI recently.
RE: don't know about two seasons  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/17/2018 12:11 am : link
In comment 14079709 bc4life said:
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a good right tackle would make a big difference.

and you want Vernon & Carter rushing - w/Barwin spelling them nit him a a starter with Martin on the opposite side.


right side is all crap and Solder is not the second coming of Jumbo Elliot, despite the jersey #

I expect DG to get on the phone tomorrow am
J_Rud  
Jalapeno : 9/17/2018 12:19 am : link
Is it Eli's fault he has no time to even throw a halfway decent pass because of the o-line?

Tonight he didn't even have time tondecjde whether to take a sack or throw the ball away.

His line hung him out to dry.

Our offensive line individually most likely woukd have stellar careers elsewhere but collectively as a unit they can't protect our quarterback.

Year after year after year we have so much individual talent. Every year starts out high anticipated. But it always seems to meld together into useless garbage... As only the Giants seem to be able to do....
RE: RE: There was one idiot who thought it was comical that Eli  
jcn56 : 9/17/2018 12:23 am : link
In comment 14079712 jogo1 said:
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In comment 14079669 jcn56 said:


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got nailed, pretty sure it was limited to him.

The rest who want to see Eli move on just realize his best football is behind him. There's no ill will toward him, and plenty of gratitude for what he's done - but there's no evidence over the past few years despite different systems and personnel that Eli is capable of playing behind anything but an impenetrable wall of an OL, which the Giants won't have time to build before he hangs them up if they even were capable of doing so in the first place.



No ill will towards him? Not the feeling I get from 2/3 the posts on BBI recently.


That's BS - people wanting to move on from Eli aren't wishing him harm, they just feel like for whatever reason - whether Eli isn't the player he once was, or the personnel doesn't fit him - he's not capable of leading the Giants to victory on a consistent basis.

I get fans being emotional - Eli has been here a long time, and he's delivered championships and some great play. But he has been a leader on a team that's been highly dysfunctional for years now and makes a lot of money. Every player hits a point in their career where they're no longer able to play at a high enough level, and for Eli it's possible that time has come and gone.

People who are lamenting Eli's moving on are thinking it brings the 07-11 championship era to a close, when in fact that era has been over for some time now.
RE: J_Rud  
Paulie Walnuts : 9/17/2018 12:31 am : link
In comment 14079807 Jalapeno said:
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Is it Eli's fault he has no time to even throw a halfway decent pass because of the o-line?

Tonight he didn't even have time tondecjde whether to take a sack or throw the ball away.

His line hung him out to dry.

Our offensive line individually most likely woukd have stellar careers elsewhere but collectively as a unit they can't protect our quarterback.

Year after year after year we have so much individual talent. Every year starts out high anticipated. But it always seems to meld together into useless garbage... As only the Giants seem to be able to do....


3/5th of our oline is stinking garbage
RE: RE: J_Rud  
Jalapeno : 9/17/2018 12:43 am : link
In comment 14079869 Paulie Walnuts said:
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In comment 14079807 Jalapeno said:


Quote:Yes.

And has been for nearly Eli Mannings whole career.


Is it Eli's fault he has no time to even throw a halfway decent pass because of the o-line?

Tonight he didn't even have time tondecjde whether to take a sack or throw the ball away.

His line hung him out to dry.

Our offensive line individually most likely woukd have stellar careers elsewhere but collectively as a unit they can't protect our quarterback.

Year after year after year we have so much individual talent. Every year starts out high anticipated. But it always seems to meld together into useless garbage... As only the Giants seem to be able to do....



3/5th of our oline is stinking garbage
Yes  
Jalapeno : 9/17/2018 12:44 am : link
And they have been garbage quite possibly for Eli Mannings entire career
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