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nygiants16 : 9/17/2018 8:31 am
Because i am tired of talking Giants.

Joakim Noah resolution should happen this week, camp starts tuesday i am believe, first preseason game is the 1st.

Around the NBA, Jimmy Butler to meet with twolves to discuss future. Supposedly he hates Towns.
if I was NYK  
Pep22 : 9/17/2018 8:56 am : link
I'd tell Noah that a buy-out no < Deng's (forfeited $) will be accepted.
Been close to 25 years since the last time...  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2018 8:58 am : link
...that I'd prefer talking about the Knicks than the Giants.
Butler  
DanMetroMan : 9/17/2018 9:02 am : link
is great but the Knicks would be out of their minds to deal for him
TWolves are looking to fire Layden/Thibs  
dep026 : 9/17/2018 9:05 am : link
Shocking I say, shocking.

Butler may be a great player but he is a drama queen. Be wary of that. He is a bit of a crybaby when he doesnt get what he wants.
RE: if I was NYK  
TyreeHelmet : 9/17/2018 9:08 am : link
In comment 14080330 Pep22 said:
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I'd tell Noah that a buy-out no < Deng's (forfeited $) will be accepted.


Couldn’t agree more. I wouldn’t help this Guy one bit unless he’s giving up the same or more as Deng. At least Loul was a professional for the Lakers. I’d let him sit home all season and wait until FA to see if you actually need the space.
RE: Been close to 25 years since the last time...  
Harvest Blend : 9/17/2018 9:37 am : link
In comment 14080336 Greg from LI said:
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...that I'd prefer talking about the Knicks than the Giants.


That's definitely in the ballpark.
yeah there should be no rush on the Knicks..  
Italianju : 9/17/2018 9:45 am : link
end to get this done. Id def force him to give back a reasonable amount at least. I mean its not like he is going to be a malcontent and sabotage our season, we are going to suck this year anyway.
Anyone catch the Knicks Town Hall last night?  
bceagle05 : 9/18/2018 12:50 pm : link
It was on YouTube and the Knicks Facebook page. Mostly propaganda, but it was pretty good - Breen was interviewing Mills, Perry and Fiz, and taking questions from the season ticket holders in the audience.

Fiz is great - very funny and personable. Was talking about player development and how you have to take your lumps sometimes - mentioned Kobe's early struggles, and how he took a "two-piece" from Chris Childs. Crowd went nuts. Brought it back to Knox, saying they're gonna make him defend the best players and get his ass kicked a little.

Fiz also said Frank added 15 pounds and grew an inch and a half. He was talking up Lance Thomas again - ugh. Noah didn't come up, nor did any Lee trade talk.

Fans kept pressing them on 2019 free agency, but they said this year's team deserves their undivided attention. Fiz: "If the culture isn't right, the players won't come."

Talking about leadership, Fiz told Knox to start with Mitchell Robinson: "You had a year of college, he didn't - just lead HIM for now." He later got a text from Knox saying the two of them had just finished a workout and were going out to get lunch.

Mills and Perry said their usual piece about culture, development, etc. Mills said they're not trading first rounders, nor are they giving up assets for players they can sign later (Jimmy Butler, without naming names).
I'm generally content with the way the Knicks have operated  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/18/2018 12:53 pm : link
in recent months.
They  
DanMetroMan : 9/18/2018 12:54 pm : link
said all of the right things. Nothing revelatory. I mean even trading for stars.. they can't. What are they giving up Knox? Frank? To give a guy like Butler a huge deal surrounded by KP and trash? Butler makes sense for LAL via trade. Not the Knicks.
They've been saying and doing the right things for  
Heisenberg : 9/18/2018 12:54 pm : link
the longest stretch I can remember. We might finally get a real rebuild.
RE: They  
nygiants16 : 9/18/2018 1:00 pm : link
In comment 14083553 DanMetroMan said:
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said all of the right things. Nothing revelatory. I mean even trading for stars.. they can't. What are they giving up Knox? Frank? To give a guy like Butler a huge deal surrounded by KP and trash? Butler makes sense for LAL via trade. Not the Knicks.


actually if they could get the wolves to take lee or hardaway it makes a ton of sense
also another thing they said  
nygiants16 : 9/18/2018 1:01 pm : link
KP is back in town and they are goingnto go over his timetable
RE: RE: They  
DanMetroMan : 9/18/2018 1:13 pm : link
In comment 14083566 nygiants16 said:
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said all of the right things. Nothing revelatory. I mean even trading for stars.. they can't. What are they giving up Knox? Frank? To give a guy like Butler a huge deal surrounded by KP and trash? Butler makes sense for LAL via trade. Not the Knicks.



actually if they could get the wolves to take lee or hardaway it makes a ton of sense


The Wolves aren't trading Jimmy Butler for garbage + Lee or Hardaway c'mon. Butler is going to bring back good young talent and picks even with only 1 year left. The Knicks aren't in position to give up the few chips they have for Jimmy Butler and if anything trading say Knox or Frank (and picks) in a deal for Butler hurts doubly because it 100% hurts 2019 draft position as well (assuming they keep that pick).
Butler is a cancer and near 30  
dep026 : 9/18/2018 1:28 pm : link
those are guys you try to avoid.
Draft looks to be SG-rich in the top 10.  
bceagle05 : 9/18/2018 1:34 pm : link
I hate this phrase, but trust the process!
It all comes down to how they  
Jan in DC : 9/18/2018 1:38 pm : link
pick and manage the cap from here on out. Getting out of bad contracts is as easy as being patient. Keeping draft picks is just a matter of refusing to trade them. We need to turn them into actual assets and good players. That will be the true test for the new front office. But I agree, so far so good.
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nygiants16 : 9/18/2018 1:41 pm : link
In comment 14083590 DanMetroMan said:
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said all of the right things. Nothing revelatory. I mean even trading for stars.. they can't. What are they giving up Knox? Frank? To give a guy like Butler a huge deal surrounded by KP and trash? Butler makes sense for LAL via trade. Not the Knicks.



actually if they could get the wolves to take lee or hardaway it makes a ton of sense



The Wolves aren't trading Jimmy Butler for garbage + Lee or Hardaway c'mon. Butler is going to bring back good young talent and picks even with only 1 year left. The Knicks aren't in position to give up the few chips they have for Jimmy Butler and if anything trading say Knox or Frank (and picks) in a deal for Butler hurts doubly because it 100% hurts 2019 draft position as well (assuming they keep that pick).


i never said they would all i am saying is if they could make a trade involving thwm they still have a max slot open...

i am not giving up knox or mitchell for him but if trading butler meant also getting kyrie via free agency, i am ok giving up frank and that is coming from someone who loves frank...

all things being equal id love to add tk max guys without giving up anything
Berman says Lee wants to be traded to a contender  
bceagle05 : 9/18/2018 9:24 pm : link
Lee refuting the report (on Twitter).
RE: Berman says Lee wants to be traded to a contender  
PetesHereNow : 9/18/2018 11:11 pm : link
In comment 14084469 bceagle05 said:
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Lee refuting the report (on Twitter).


Nothing against Courtney Lee as a player or person, but we need out from under that contract.
RE: Berman says Lee wants to be traded to a contender  
Jim in Fairfax : 9/18/2018 11:46 pm : link
In comment 14084469 bceagle05 said:
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Lee refuting the report (on Twitter).

So does Noah. Maybe they can package them to sweeten the deal.

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RE: TWolves are looking to fire Layden/Thibs  
TheMick7 : 9/19/2018 9:50 am : link
In comment 14080367 dep026 said:
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Shocking I say, shocking.

Butler may be a great player but he is a drama queen. Be wary of that. He is a bit of a crybaby when he doesnt get what he wants.


We traded one away last year,don't need another.......
No to Butler.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/19/2018 10:03 am : link
It's no coincidence the guys butts heads with everyone he plays with. His age is starting to creep up too. Strong pass on him.
Butler requests trade from Minny  
bceagle05 : 9/19/2018 1:56 pm : link
and gave them a list of a few teams with whom he'd sign an extension. Mills said the Knicks were staying away from these scenarios, and we don't have the ammo to pull it off anyway. Incredible how much power NBA players have.
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