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Bad OL play is not always the OLs fault

RUNYG : 9/17/2018 10:01 am
First off, the OL is not good but it is not entirely their fault. Tons of times last night there were missed blocking assignments on blitzes. That is the QBs job to call out and adjust. A lot of the sacks last night were blitzes and not just physical 4 man rushes.

I’m not putting all the blame on Eli at all. The coaching and line need to play better but theee has been one constant over the years..
Coundnt believe the Flowers and Omaneh  
jpetuch : 9/17/2018 10:21 am : link
double team letting the rusher on the left just run through
A bad OL hasnt been a constant?  
dep026 : 9/17/2018 10:22 am : link
when was the last time it was average?
you're saying the bad OL play is eli's fault?  
japanhead : 9/17/2018 10:26 am : link
the OL could use about 4 new players. i'm giving hernandez a pass because he's a high second-round draft pick playing on a garbage unit, but i'd be happy to see them cut bait with everyone else.

hopefully they manage to upgrade C, RG, RT next year.. although i was hoping maybe they upgraded C this season, given that schurmur is a former OC and seemed to have a vision re: halipio. so much for that dream..
Its fair to say  
hassan : 9/17/2018 10:28 am : link
the Oline, lack of ability to adjust to the blitz and execute an effective screen, and a shell shocked qb with little maneuverability is all compounding each other.
It was a complete shit show  
Rjanyg : 9/17/2018 10:28 am : link
I love Eli but there were many times I thought they looked like the blitz was coming but Eli didn't have enough time to get them lined up. Is that on Eli or Shurmur not getting the play in fast enough?

The O line looks unsure of what they are doing.
There were..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/17/2018 10:30 am : link
at least three plays where eli adjusted the blocking pre-snap and the OL simply failed to execute.

That doesn't even count the two times I saw us in max protect and Lawrence still went through the blocker like a hot knife through butter
Bad offensive football is everybody’s fault.  
Jimmy Googs : 9/17/2018 10:35 am : link
Except mine...
Weston Richburg, Bobby Hart and Brett Jones  
shyster : 9/17/2018 10:35 am : link
have a combined six starts through Week 2 and their teams have averaged 28 points a game.

Pugh's team can't score and they're about to replace the QB.

Blitzes, particularly slot blitzes are often not on the OL. Collinsworth pointed this out early but then became obsessed with the stunts, and the OL did miss a couple of those.

Everything is compressed at the line because the defense does not respect Eli's ability to extend a play. The same players who are rushing him will tackle the ball carrier if he hands off the ball.

There are too many guys in the other jerseys for the OL to block.
Shyster  
Toth029 : 9/17/2018 10:44 am : link
What about Justin Pugh? Doesn't quite fit your narrative.
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Toth029 : 9/17/2018 10:47 am : link
"Misses a couple stunts" lmao
RE: Shyster  
shyster : 9/17/2018 10:53 am : link
In comment 14080820 Toth029 said:
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What about Justin Pugh? Doesn't quite fit your narrative.


Did you make it to the second line of my post? The Cards' response to the lack of scoring will be to replace their QB.
Eli is clearly part of the problem  
Vanzetti : 9/17/2018 11:17 am : link
Anyone who claims otherwise is just being obstinate
The blocking scheme is called by the Center  
montanagiant : 9/17/2018 11:44 am : link
Not the QB
RE: Eli is clearly part of the problem  
HomerJones45 : 9/17/2018 11:45 am : link
In comment 14080947 Vanzetti said:
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Anyone who claims otherwise is just being obstinate
You are consistent; another "quick fix" artist.

"Get rid of the OC Killdrive" - didn't fix anything
"Get rid of the HC"- didn't fix anything'
"Get rid of the other HC"- didn't fix anything
"Get rid of the QB"- won't fix anything.

But you guys will light the torches and storm the castle anyway. When the o-line can't stop a simple basic stunt, that's not a qb problem. When the fullback can't pick up a single blitz, that's not a qb problem. When the team has no competent, fast 3rd wideout to make the D pay for 8 men in the box, that's not a qb problem. When the #2 wideout can't outrun his grandmother and can be singled up as a matter of routine, that's not a qb problem. When the pass rushers are on the qb on the count of 2, that's not a qb problem.

When will you idiots learn that the other team gets paid too. Collinsworth was blowing Marinelli last night when all Marinelli did was look at what we have: one fast receiver that they could take away by double or triple team, one possession receiver and a #3 wideout that they could single up on without fear of a big play; a fast running back and a "tight end" who is not a blocker. How to cover the bast running back and pass-catching tight end? Turn them into blockers by blitzing. The run game? With this o-line? Let the Giants try.

Get used to it; you will see this from every opponent until we find a way to make teams pay.
RE: RE: Eli is clearly part of the problem  
Reb8thVA : 9/17/2018 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14081038 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 14080947 Vanzetti said:


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Anyone who claims otherwise is just being obstinate

You are consistent; another "quick fix" artist.

"Get rid of the OC Killdrive" - didn't fix anything
"Get rid of the HC"- didn't fix anything'
"Get rid of the other HC"- didn't fix anything
"Get rid of the QB"- won't fix anything.

But you guys will light the torches and storm the castle anyway. When the o-line can't stop a simple basic stunt, that's not a qb problem. When the fullback can't pick up a single blitz, that's not a qb problem. When the team has no competent, fast 3rd wideout to make the D pay for 8 men in the box, that's not a qb problem. When the #2 wideout can't outrun his grandmother and can be singled up as a matter of routine, that's not a qb problem. When the pass rushers are on the qb on the count of 2, that's not a qb problem.

When will you idiots learn that the other team gets paid too. Collinsworth was blowing Marinelli last night when all Marinelli did was look at what we have: one fast receiver that they could take away by double or triple team, one possession receiver and a #3 wideout that they could single up on without fear of a big play; a fast running back and a "tight end" who is not a blocker. How to cover the bast running back and pass-catching tight end? Turn them into blockers by blitzing. The run game? With this o-line? Let the Giants try.

Get used to it; you will see this from every opponent until we find a way to make teams pay.


Best Post of the Day!
RE: RE: RE: Eli is clearly part of the problem  
gmenatlarge : 9/17/2018 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14081172 Reb8thVA said:
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In comment 14081038 HomerJones45 said:


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In comment 14080947 Vanzetti said:


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Anyone who claims otherwise is just being obstinate

You are consistent; another "quick fix" artist.

"Get rid of the OC Killdrive" - didn't fix anything
"Get rid of the HC"- didn't fix anything'
"Get rid of the other HC"- didn't fix anything
"Get rid of the QB"- won't fix anything.

But you guys will light the torches and storm the castle anyway. When the o-line can't stop a simple basic stunt, that's not a qb problem. When the fullback can't pick up a single blitz, that's not a qb problem. When the team has no competent, fast 3rd wideout to make the D pay for 8 men in the box, that's not a qb problem. When the #2 wideout can't outrun his grandmother and can be singled up as a matter of routine, that's not a qb problem. When the pass rushers are on the qb on the count of 2, that's not a qb problem.

When will you idiots learn that the other team gets paid too. Collinsworth was blowing Marinelli last night when all Marinelli did was look at what we have: one fast receiver that they could take away by double or triple team, one possession receiver and a #3 wideout that they could single up on without fear of a big play; a fast running back and a "tight end" who is not a blocker. How to cover the bast running back and pass-catching tight end? Turn them into blockers by blitzing. The run game? With this o-line? Let the Giants try.

Get used to it; you will see this from every opponent until we find a way to make teams pay.



Best Post of the Day!


+1, how many times in replay did you see lineman not blocking ANYBODY...too often!
Eli pointed out protections all night  
BBelle21 : 9/17/2018 12:49 pm : link
Things didn’t go beyond pointing them out, sadly.
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