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I say Circle the Wagons.....

UticaMike : 9/17/2018 11:07 am
With all the pessimistic posts out there right now, here’s some food for thought: Don’t give up. Not yet. It’s a bad look for us, Giants fans. It’s not the NY Giants way. This may be a foreign thought to some, but something crazy could happen—we could improve. It’s a futuristic thought, i know, but bear with me. I thought Chris Collinsworth (for once) made a fairly decent point when he said that the Giants offensive linemen aren’t being beaten physically, they’re being beaten mentally. We’re not talking about Marshal Newhouse being bullrushed into Eli’s lap. Or Weston Richburg. We’re screwing up stunts and twists. And for the most part, it was the same thing in the Jags game. We can fix that. All 5 of our offensive linemen have the physical tools to get the job done. These 5 guys are brand new. And for the most part, they don’t strike me as guys that are gonna give up. Giants fans need to rally around this team, not mourn them. Or trash them. Or write them off. When the line plays better, Eli will play better. When bith those things happen, this team will take off. It will happen folks. Will we be out of playoff contention by time it happens? Maybe, but let’s hope not. Out of yesterday’s nightmare, there were strides on the last two drives. Tiny strides, but strides. I say rally around this team. CIRCLE THE WAGONS!
Strides in garbage time  
mattlawson : 9/17/2018 11:09 am : link
When they rushed 4. Not that I disagree with your wanting to route for the team. Just let’s not kid ourselves here
if you can remember back to ‘94  
UticaMike : 9/17/2018 11:15 am : link
when we were in the midst of a 7 game losing streak with Brown and Graham at qb, did you ever think they would finish the season winning 6 in a row and just missing out on the playoffs? Never. Not in a million years. But we did. We got better and we did. Just saying, it can happen.
Possible outcome  
GiantEgo : 9/17/2018 11:19 am : link
I felt going in the season would go something like this:

First half very rough due to all the changes

Second half things start to click with the new systems and they win some upset victories. Everyone feels good going into next season.

Funny you mention Richburg  
jcn56 : 9/17/2018 11:21 am : link
the Niners seem to like him and they're doing well offensively.

But yeah, rah rah sis boom bah and all that.
If Dallas didn't go soft on defense after getting a 20-3 lead,  
Doomster : 9/17/2018 11:23 am : link
the Giants would have only scored 3 points....every time they brought the pressure, Eli would dump the ball.....

Our only TD was because of a busted play....

You know that the Indians sometimes won when we circled the wagons, right?
The 1994 Giants were a team that went 11-5 the year before  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2018 11:24 am : link
Slightly different
RE: The 1994 Giants were a team that went 11-5 the year before  
NoPeanutz : 9/17/2018 11:26 am : link
In comment 14080972 Greg from LI said:
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Slightly different

They also opened up 3-0.
RE: if you can remember back to ‘94  
Jim in Tampa : 9/17/2018 11:37 am : link
In comment 14080943 UticaMike said:
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when we were in the midst of a 7 game losing streak with Brown and Graham at qb, did you ever think they would finish the season winning 6 in a row and just missing out on the playoffs? Never. Not in a million years. But we did. We got better and we did. Just saying, it can happen.

I was in New Orleans (on business) at the start of that 7 game losing streak and stayed over to see the Giants at the Superdome.
Let see the Offense score some points in a game  
Jimmy Googs : 9/17/2018 11:38 am : link
and you can have all the wagons you want...
Yes, the 94 team was coming off an 11-5 season....  
UticaMike : 9/17/2018 11:53 am : link
but it was essentially a new team without Phil Simms at qb
Since the OL is having so much problems with Pass Protection  
TruBlue56 : 9/17/2018 11:58 am : link
Then I say to just run the ball. Power football all day long. Line Barkley up with a Fullback. Ellison at TE and Shepard and OBJ at WR to start. Then rotate Evan Engram in with Shepard and OBJ to give a 2 TE look.

Establish the run and then go play action. We can also do a couple screens in every series.

Time to simplify and go from there.
I'm w Mike  
Dave : 9/17/2018 12:00 pm : link
5 new O lineman, need time to learn how to play together
as a unit
RE: Since the OL is having so much problems with Pass Protection  
Boy Cord : 9/17/2018 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14081094 TruBlue56 said:
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Then I say to just run the ball. Power football all day long. Line Barkley up with a Fullback. Ellison at TE and Shepard and OBJ at WR to start. Then rotate Evan Engram in with Shepard and OBJ to give a 2 TE look.

Establish the run and then go play action. We can also do a couple screens in every series.

Time to simplify and go from there.


Have you seen our OL, TEs, and FB block?
RE: RE: Since the OL is having so much problems with Pass Protection  
TruBlue56 : 9/17/2018 12:19 pm : link
In comment 14081114 Boy Cord said:
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In comment 14081094 TruBlue56 said:


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Then I say to just run the ball. Power football all day long. Line Barkley up with a Fullback. Ellison at TE and Shepard and OBJ at WR to start. Then rotate Evan Engram in with Shepard and OBJ to give a 2 TE look.

Establish the run and then go play action. We can also do a couple screens in every series.

Time to simplify and go from there.



Have you seen our OL, TEs, and FB block?


Yes. So you are saying just give up? They are having problems picking up stunts and slot blitzes. We run block so at least we have a chance. What they are doing now is not working.
Apparently,  
Doomster : 9/17/2018 12:24 pm : link
Since the OL is having so much problems with Pass Protection
TruBlue56 : 11:58 am : link : reply
Then I say to just run the ball. Power football all day long. Line Barkley up with a Fullback. Ellison at TE and Shepard and OBJ at WR to start. Then rotate Evan Engram in with Shepard and OBJ to give a 2 TE look.

Establish the run and then go play action. We can also do a couple screens in every series.

Time to simplify and go from there.



You did not watch the game last night, and saw our OL try to run block, and our FB(how did this guy even make the roster last year?) whiff on blocks!
RE: Apparently,  
TruBlue56 : 9/17/2018 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14081181 Doomster said:
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Since the OL is having so much problems with Pass Protection
TruBlue56 : 11:58 am : link : reply
Then I say to just run the ball. Power football all day long. Line Barkley up with a Fullback. Ellison at TE and Shepard and OBJ at WR to start. Then rotate Evan Engram in with Shepard and OBJ to give a 2 TE look.

Establish the run and then go play action. We can also do a couple screens in every series.

Time to simplify and go from there.



You did not watch the game last night, and saw our OL try to run block, and our FB(how did this guy even make the roster last year?) whiff on blocks!


I saw every play. I am basically just picking the lesser of 2 evils. Letting the defense pin their ears back and go is not something we need. You don't like our FB then put old man Stewart as the FB and go from there.
People seem to forget  
Leg of Theismann : 9/17/2018 12:47 pm : link
We looked awful in the first 2 weeks of the season last year, but honestly weeks 3 through 6, we lost 3 games by a total of 10 points and then we beat Denver 23-10. We actually outscored out opponents in those 4 weeks, believe it or not, but ended up 1-3.

JAX was tough and honestly Rod Marinelli has Eli's number at this point (hate to say it). But the Texans are 0-2 and the Saints almost lost to the Browns yesterday (thank god we don't play them in the Dome this year). Let's see if we scrape out a couple wins over the next few weeks and hopefully by the time these guys get it together they'll still be mathematically in the playoff race. It's a long season, let's not completely write off '18 just yet.
RE: Apparently,  
Leg of Theismann : 9/17/2018 12:49 pm : link
In comment 14081181 Doomster said:
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Since the OL is having so much problems with Pass Protection
TruBlue56 : 11:58 am : link : reply
Then I say to just run the ball. Power football all day long. Line Barkley up with a Fullback. Ellison at TE and Shepard and OBJ at WR to start. Then rotate Evan Engram in with Shepard and OBJ to give a 2 TE look.

Establish the run and then go play action. We can also do a couple screens in every series.

Time to simplify and go from there.



You did not watch the game last night, and saw our OL try to run block, and our FB(how did this guy even make the roster last year?) whiff on blocks!


LMAO when the FB completely whiffed on the RDE on that one play and Eli got sacked I literally just screamed WHAT THE FUCK!!!
OL  
Simms : 9/17/2018 1:20 pm : link
What stayed with me was the energy from the Cowboys DL vs our OL. We seemed sluggish, and off balance.

Granted I am not an OLman and consider it a win if I can touch my toes. We seems to be spun around like a top.
Maybe Mara could present a 7 Mississippi rule to the  
Tom from LI : 9/17/2018 1:26 pm : link
competition committee?
eternal optimism  
UESBLUE : 9/17/2018 1:28 pm : link
ia always hard to find fault with.
RE: I'm w Mike  
Ron Johnson : 9/17/2018 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14081101 Dave said:
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5 new O lineman, need time to learn how to play together
as a unit



same here. these are our guys, coach them up.

...... quickly
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