I'm not saying this to start controversy or bash Eli but to have a conversation about the future of the franchise. Some might say this conversation is premature but McAdoo tried to begin the process of moving on from Eli last year and it blew up in his face. He went about it completely the wrong way and the fanbase revolted. But it's been a very long time since Eli has been a productive QB in the league (again, let's not debate the reasons why here) so it's only smart to begin thinking about how this should/could happen.
If this season stays on it's current course and spins out of control, at what point is it time to sit Eli and explore other options? Unfortunately, we released Davis Webb before the season began so the options aren't great with a journeyman backup (Alex Tanney) and a rookie 4th rounder (Kyle Lauletta). Do the Giants give one of those guys a shot behind this oline? Does it depend how Lauletta looks in practice? And if so, what does that transition look like?
To me, it would have made sense to keep Webb & Lauletta on this roster and let them continue to compete throughout the season. I guess Webb wasn't Shurmur's kind of QB and he's the "QB Guru" so who am I to question that?
So what's the plan here? Do we even have one?
No, Eli is going to be trotted out there until the bitter end.
If I recall correctly, I predicted he would sit out the second half of game five down by 2TD and with an 0-4 record, and that he would not return.
Now, we get to find out.
Putting Tanney in makes no sense because by no objective measure does he give you a better chance at winning than Eli does. Putting in Lauletta will appear they are throwing the rest of the seaons which this organization will not do. They will put out whichever QB gives them the best chance to win that week's game, and that is currently Eli.
The guy was 100 percent correct. Eli is done and mcadoo said so. He can’t move and he’s she’ll shocked. Loook around the league. QBs extend plays they don’t just collapse. Yes the line sucks but even when he had time he quickly checked the ball down. 14 for 90 for saquon and the majority were not designed for him.
That can be week 10 or Week 7, but 7 losses is my number
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If we are 0-6 or 1-7, I think it happens.
...if they bench him, what happens?
Last season wasn't too soon so after 2 more embarrassing losses this season sure as hell ain't too soon.
Quite frankly, if the team doesn't improve with Eli at the helm, I'd be looking to pull the plug once they're out of the playoff hunt.
At that point, it's about the high draft picks again. They're going to need every one of them to rebuild the foundation, as well as improvement (and less desperate spending) via UFA.
Mara created this mess because of what he did last year approving Eli's benching.
The last thing Mara wants is another media and fan revolt for his golden child Eli.
If this year really goes sideways, we most certainly need to see Lauletta. But I just can't see Mara allowing that. He made his bed for Eli.
That way Eli is not embarrassed...
No doubt he will make some bad decisions and turn the ball over. Like most rookies.
But Eli used his get out of jail card last year. It won't happen again.
and if you don't happen to like Kapernicke, you can watch him try to play behind this OL and take the beating Eli takes.
I am 100% in favor of signing Kap! Do it NOW!
If the team goes 0-6/1-5, I think Shurmur will talk with Eli about sitting him in the second half if the team is being blown out (down by three scores or more). There's no reason to put Eli's health at risk, and it would be a good situation for Lauletta. He won't have the pressure of starting, and the FO can see how he develops.
He totally is. He handled the entire situation completely wrong.
BUT - it still doesn't change the fact that he was right about Eli and Webb.
What about Eli's game tells you he was wrong?
What about Webb makes you think he can play?
What about Geno Smith convinced McAdoo that he was the best option to start?
McAdoo was far from right on most everything he did during his tenure in NY.
He was very high on Mahomes also.
A lot of teams were high on Mahomes. Why this continually being used as some sort of excuse for him?
If the team goes 0-6/1-5, I think Shurmur will talk with Eli about sitting him in the second half if the team is being blown out (down by three scores or more). There's no reason to put Eli's health at risk, and it would be a good situation for Lauletta. He won't have the pressure of starting, and the FO can see how he develops.
That won't work. To do that you have to give KL a significant number of practice snaps and that won't happen as long as he is not the starter.
McAdoo said the following
Pat Mahomes was gonna be a stud
Eli deserved to be benched
Nate Solder is not good
so far he isn't wrong
2. I think the Giants are in too deep and will continue with Eli for a few more weeks at least. If we are 0-6 or 1-7, I think it happens.
What happens? If they sit Eli and the Oline blows, I'd still like to see Lauletta back there instead of a journeyman. Maybe the Giants would explore other options like a trade for Slotter?
Last year into this one was/is bizarro world. That shit rarely if ever happens. You never ever ever see a vet qb benched one season only to be brought back as the clear starter the next. Fucking clown show here. They should put a big tent around MetLife because it’s a circus.