What was Dave Gettleman's selling point to get the GM job?

Had been with the Giants before.

obvious as all hell..........

Think about it. The owner is responsible for all this. McAdoo had the balls to say enough of the Eli bullshit. He had them set up perfectly to move on from him. But then here comes King Mara, steps in makes them put Eli back in and then hires a GM and coach that would agree Eli could continue to be QB. And you better not draft a QB that would make him uncomfortable. And by the way get rid of Webb too, Because he also believes he’s better than Eli.

Can’t upset Eli at all. So this is where you end up

Thanks Johnny Mara

Accorsi was essentially his agent. When Mara brought back Accorsi for the fake search, that was just to buy a little time for Accorsi to convince Mara that Gettleman was, and always be, a member of the Jints Central Box.

And getting back into that box was critical for Mara this time around. The McAdoo hire took Mara out of his box and that makes him very uncomfortable.

Next, Gettleman knew the real magic to getting the job was appealing to Mara's love for Eli. Mara was wounded with guilt over the Eli benching (that he orchestrated btw) and needed to hear that Eli was worth bringing back. It's vital for Mara that Eli goes off an a white horse. Welcome to Project Reclamation Eli.

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that's it.

for a fucking 6th round pick!!!!

On the football side of things. Business he appears to be very good, but the actual football, doesn't seem like it. Coughlin and Eli in his prime covered this up for many years. But now the tough decisions are needed and over the last 12-18 months Mara has made mistake after mistake. It's not good long-term.

In comment 14081082 gmenatlarge said:

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for a fucking 6th round pick!!!!

7th rounder!!!

management that Reese and Ross were the problem for screwing up the drafts and FA acquisitions the last 6/7 years. TC was sacrificed as well in this purge to set up the new management team. Keeping DG and Abrams together appealed to Mara and Tisch because of their past success in rebuilding a team with TC.

In comment 14081036 Rflairr said:

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Think about it. The owner is responsible for all this. McAdoo had the balls to say enough of the Eli bullshit. He had them set up perfectly to move on from him. But then here comes King Mara, steps in makes them put Eli back in and then hires a GM and coach that would agree Eli could continue to be QB. And you better not draft a QB that would make him uncomfortable. And by the way get rid of Webb too, Because he also believes he’s better than Eli. Can’t upset Eli at all. So this is where you end up Thanks Johnny Mara

Yeah, that’s why they got rid of Webb. Because he was better than Eli.

Stop.

What was Dave Gettleman's selling point to get the GM job?

Doomster : 11:39 am

Did he say what ownership wanted to hear? That we are only a few players away, and that he could fix the OL enough to make Eli functional?

Because if he told them the hard truth about this club, that you have to go through planned losing seasons to get better, and not use a band aid approach, he probably wouldn't have been hired....

Getting rid of JPP was a good first step...

Then he overpaid for Solder.....

The he overpaid for Stewart.......

Then he drafted a RB without having an OL....

Then he drafted two players that won't even see the field this year, and with their medical history, there is no guarantee they will see it in the future....

And if he sold ownership on Eli still being able to play for the next several years, without an OL, well, it speaks volumes.....anyone think he will be able to fix it next year?

DG's legacy may be, that he had the #2 pick, and had five qb's to pick from and passed on them all....

Band aid approaches haven't worked for 7 seasons.....the more things change, the more they stay the same.....way to go ownership, you bought it, hook, line, and sinker.....again....

In comment 14081407 Hsilwek92 said:

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Stop.

Paying Stewart a quarter would be an overpay.

I was on board for many changes signing Stewart was a huge head turn for me and others. Knee jerk reaction that shook many.

In comment 14081432 Keith said:

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What was Dave Gettleman's selling point to get the GM job? Doomster : 11:39 am Did he say what ownership wanted to hear? That we are only a few players away, and that he could fix the OL enough to make Eli functional? Because if he told them the hard truth about this club, that you have to go through planned losing seasons to get better, and not use a band aid approach, he probably wouldn't have been hired.... Getting rid of JPP was a good first step... Then he overpaid for Solder..... The he overpaid for Stewart....... Then he drafted a RB without having an OL.... Then he drafted two players that won't even see the field this year, and with their medical history, there is no guarantee they will see it in the future.... And if he sold ownership on Eli still being able to play for the next several years, without an OL, well, it speaks volumes.....anyone think he will be able to fix it next year? DG's legacy may be, that he had the #2 pick, and had five qb's to pick from and passed on them all.... Band aid approaches haven't worked for 7 seasons.....the more things change, the more they stay the same.....way to go ownership, you bought it, hook, line, and sinker.....again....

I believe this all is true and it sucks hairy balls

DG: Guys, come on, It's me here...

Mara: He makes a great point. Plus we already know were are taking him so why are we having an interview again?

and basically would not insist upon major changes in the organization.

2. He believed Eli still has it and would build around him, forgoing drafting a QB high removing risk of another QB controversy like last year.
3. Accorsi knew him and recommended him to Mara.

But Gettleman looks like a huge mistake. Proof is on the field. To go all in with an aging,skills declining quarterback with a poor o-line is a recipe for failure. Barkley is really good but behind this line it doesn't matter much. We needed to pick a starting future qb.

threads. It is like a bat signal put up for all of these "fans" who have the view that management is stodgy, loyal and doesn't care about winning.

Just another platform to spew fucking nonsense like the owners are beholden to Mara and bring a yes man in to carry that message forward.

Absolutely pathetic.

Wow, that was quick, just saying

management can want to win but be stodgy and loyal to a fault. i’d add susceptible to a pollyanna viewpoint.

seems readily apparent to those that follow this team.

accorsi consulting a search and recommending gettleman is as much an insider job as one can imagine.

it can be all those things i mentioned and dg can still be qualified to be a decent if not a great hire. Optics are not seeming great here though.....given the age and the analytics comments etc. to date.

In comment 14081581 Marty866b said:

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But Gettleman looks like a huge mistake. Proof is on the field. To go all in with an aging,skills declining quarterback with a poor o-line is a recipe for failure. Barkley is really good but behind this line it doesn't matter much. We needed to pick a starting future qb.

How would a rookie QB have done behind this line? That would have been a 10x bigger mistake. By the time this line is fixed you’ve wasted 2-3 years of that new QB during his golden “cheap” years.

Maybe if Mara held a real GM search with more than one real candidate people would have more respect for the decision. But he essentially interviewed three “insiders” (including two who were partially responsible for the mess over the last seven years and one unemployed candidate) and one Rooney rule candidate. You would think for a choice of this magnitude he would have looked broader and at some of the highly regarded assistant GMs or directors of pro personnel. It was a rushed and tunnel vision process.

Philosophy build inside out
Past performance with the giants
Record with caralina
Ability to work with ownership
Knowledge of pro players
Knowledge of coaches
Personal relationship
Are some of the reasons
Two games way way way to early for questioning for me

In comment 14081407 Hsilwek92 said:

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Stop.

This is a question? Of course he did.