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Giant Tidbits: 3 Play Defensive Breakdown

tmanic21 : 9/17/2018 2:23 pm
Took a closer look at 3 plays from the game on the defensive side, where execution lacked from some of the Giants highest profile players. This was not a game where Linehan out coached Bettcher, or the loss of Apple directly led to XYZ, or Ogletree and the LBers could not do ABC. These mistakes are very fixable. Cheers
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interesting...  
Dnew15 : 9/17/2018 2:27 pm : link
As much as some people want to make exceptions for the Giants offense by stating the fact that the Giants played some really tough defenses - which I think is true.
The defense has played two pretty good games, but they were against teams with some pretty average to below average offenses. I'll reserve judgement on this defense until they play the likes of NO, Philly, and Atl.
Def Fair Point  
tmanic21 : 9/17/2018 3:11 pm : link
That makes a lot of sense. I guess in the same context too it should be highlighted how far they have come already, IMO from Spags era. The message and the listeners were not on the same page for over half a season there.

And thats not to say they were in desperate need of a roster makeover, bc some of the guys who left are very talented (Kennard, etc.)
Every team has defensive breakdowns  
BillT : 9/17/2018 4:29 pm : link
They only scored 20 points and that's with a Giants offense that punted or fumbled 7 of it's first 8 possessions. With and kind of offense they probably don't even score 20.
Good article...  
KerrysFlask : 9/17/2018 4:29 pm : link
But in the 2nd example, why is Ogletree blitzing the B gap instead of the A gap with Tomlinson lined up backside?

Can someone smarter than me explain this thought process?
RE: Good article...  
tmanic21 : 9/18/2018 12:44 am : link
In comment 14081922 KerrysFlask said:
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But in the 2nd example, why is Ogletree blitzing the B gap instead of the A gap with Tomlinson lined up backside?

Can someone smarter than me explain this thought process?


There are a cpl answers, but the quickest is that it deceives the LG. If the 3-tech, to the boundary or to the field, always is playing the B gap the guard gets comfortable, and this just provides a different look. This gap exchange would allow Tomlinson to cross face of his blocker using an array of moves. They might have seen something in game or in film in regards to Collins (the RT)and is combination block abilities, or more likely that if Zeke runs to the L a backside A gap needs to be plugged by a large DT. Do teams do it often? No. Do teams line their 3-tech to the field that often? IMO not as much as to the boundary, and it creates these little games that need to be ironed out, especially against heavier fronts like this. Hope that gives some context

RE: RE: Good article...  
KerrysFlask : 9/18/2018 1:11 pm : link
In comment 14082686 tmanic21 said:
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In comment 14081922 KerrysFlask said:


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But in the 2nd example, why is Ogletree blitzing the B gap instead of the A gap with Tomlinson lined up backside?

Can someone smarter than me explain this thought process?



There are a cpl answers, but the quickest is that it deceives the LG. If the 3-tech, to the boundary or to the field, always is playing the B gap the guard gets comfortable, and this just provides a different look. This gap exchange would allow Tomlinson to cross face of his blocker using an array of moves. They might have seen something in game or in film in regards to Collins (the RT)and is combination block abilities, or more likely that if Zeke runs to the L a backside A gap needs to be plugged by a large DT. Do teams do it often? No. Do teams line their 3-tech to the field that often? IMO not as much as to the boundary, and it creates these little games that need to be ironed out, especially against heavier fronts like this. Hope that gives some context


Ah, awesome. Thank you for this. I figured it was along the lines of misdirection in the larger scheme.
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