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Brian Baldinger & #8207;@BaldyNFL 2h2 hours ago .@giants have MAJOR issues with basic assignment football and the fallout is affecting the Coach and the QB. There is ZERO trust that the protection will hold up in any given play. If you don’t think it can’t get worse...??? #BaldyBreakdowns |
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In comment 14082731 section125 said:
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Not blaming Eli for last Sunday. Hard to make plays when the rush gets to your drop before you do, but I do blame him for the inability to get the flats passes out quickly and accurately to the receiver and missing the open pass down field (more in week one than week two).
I wholeheartedly agree with this. The thing is though that people are already complaining about Eli missing open receivers because he's too eager to check down. Imagine he got those swing passes out even more quickly? He's in a no-win situation with a pretty large contingent on this board.
Think you missed my point. Last Sunday, a few of those passes to Barkley were poorly thrown so Barkley had little chance to make a play. He can't throw deep if the DL is on him in 1.5 secs, of course and he cannot be blamed for that, but he can make an accurate pass to Barkley so he is one v one on a LB.
When you lose by 1 TD and the other team out gains you by only few yards (60+ on one play), then there should have been opportunities to make a play or two to keep a drive alive.
No, I get your point and I agree that his accuracy could and should be better and he might be able to get it to Barkley more quickly. I was just making an observation about how the crowd here who wants to place all blame on Eli would react to him dumping it off even more quickly.
It's probably the right move with the kind of rush he's generally facing, but we would hear choruses of how he's panicking, or staring down the rush, or missing open receivers etc etc etc.
We will be in much better position to judge him as a coach at the end of the season.
Hope he turns out to be what the Giants were expecting when they hired him.
There is a reason that continuity is an element in building o-lines. Doubt this line will ever be great, but it certainly could become functional.
Agree.
Saquon & Hernandez were great picks but will still suffer from rookie-itis from time to time. I actually feel better about the OLine after watching this - problems are fixable.
You're dumbfounded that people are piling on coaching staff for players missing assignments?
Whose job is it to make sure players understand their assignments? That's what the coaches are here for.
If the players can't pick up simple stunts, that's a serious coaching issue. What are they teaching them?
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There is absolutely nothing any QB could do in situations like that.
These OL players are very poorly prepared to play and I’m not sure who to blame for that but its not the QB.
I can only think of one QB, Russell Wilson. But even he got sacked 6 times and lost last week.
And he played a similar game last night except he had an Int on a horrible pass.
It's the O-Line in both examples
Here's my reaction, though - does an NFL lineman really need intensive coaching just to recognize a stunt? Hell, other than Hernandez and Flowers, the other four guys who played Sunday night came from other pro teams. Have they never seen a stunt before?? I can't wrap my head around veteran OL looking that confused and helpless. Boggles the mind.
They were unclear of their responsibilities, either that or they didn't have confidence that their teammate would do the right thing. Four new players working together: Solder, Stewart, Smith, and Omameh screwed up. There were assignment/decision errors. Most likely, this line will get better over time but it needs an infusion of talent as well.
One remedy: run the ball more while the pass blocking schemes get straightened out.
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If the players can't pick up simple stunts, that's a serious coaching issue. What are they teaching them?
Here's my reaction, though - does an NFL lineman really need intensive coaching just to recognize a stunt? Hell, other than Hernandez and Flowers, the other four guys who played Sunday night came from other pro teams. Have they never seen a stunt before?? I can't wrap my head around veteran OL looking that confused and helpless. Boggles the mind.
They really shouldn't need extensive coaching on the basics, but at the same time, it's the coaches job to get these guys on the same page and in sync. There's a lot of miscommunication. Defenders are going unblocked because our guys can't figure out who is supposed to pick up who.
Some of the ways free rushers are getting into the backfield are really startling. We spent a lot of money on Solder/Omameh and a 2nd rounder is significant draft capital. Yet, the line looks just as bad as last year.
Really, really troubling.
I won't use the word "best", because none of them were actually good, but I think Flowers might have been the least bad of the linemen on Sunday. Omameh was absolutely brutal. How many times did he just shuffle around blocking nothing but air? He looked utterly baffled.
How about some of these playmakers make a play versus dropping passes. How about the veteran QB hit on some big play down the field or show better touch in a screen pass to slow down the rush.
God forbid we take advantage of a weakness somewhere in the defense and score some points before halftime..
Secondly, the second you feel your interior or exterior lineman on your hip... blocking the same person... your instinct should be to look to see if someone on the other hip is shooting the gap and then adjust.
Hernandez looks lost. How can you have your head down in the NFL pre-snap.
Secondly, the second you feel your interior or exterior lineman on your hip... blocking the same person... your instinct should be to look to see if someone on the other hip is shooting the gap and then adjust.
Hernandez looks lost. How can you have your head down in the NFL pre-snap.
That’s coaching.